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These are more petty excuses than solid reasons. The parallel example is why blaster or laser shots went from sounding deep and electronic to ending up as squeaky chew toys. Dee’s voice is fine for specific roles not all of them. There were more options since he has over hundred characters to play as. The filoni wars is a lack luster joke that insults and mills the EU of Star Wars. All Filoni media is not real Star Wars. Temuera Morrison Can apply personality..you haven’t played republic commando to know his best and the best of the clones. fuck Dave filoni
Love how George saw how people were disappointed with how little boba fett had to do so he just went "what if we had boba's dad make an army of fetts".
No. Not The Clone Wars. Though a fair number are unique enough, most are very similar, especially in the earlier seasons. The Bad Batch has more unique clones and voices and you can tell all the named clones apart in it just by voice most of the time.
Same. Dee is great but i do sometimes wish for an alternate universe where temura voiced the clones in the clone wars show. Who knows he could've been great at it.
@@RandyAndyShow Not to mention Dee sounds like this messed up hybrid of the South African accent with Aussie, Kiwi, and British twangs in there he’s all over the place with his accent.
Temura will always be my preffered clone voice. People forget that they were raised and grown to be soldiers so them being super serious all the time is kind of realistic
In the Original Battlefront Games, Temuerra Morrison only voices The 501st Troops in the Story line but in Game and while playing, You can notice that the Voices of the clones really aren't Temuerra Morrison but are someone else, Did you notice that?
True! Interestingly, it seems to be that this has been purposely done in multiple Star Wars games to help distinguish Jango, Boba, and elite clones (such as the 501st journal narrator) from the regular troops in-game
@@grubwirld it's true! The original voice lines make more sense and I do like them but maybe they weren't happy with Temuerra's delivery, to be honest he's not much of a voice actor or hiring him to do all the voice lines was too expensive, it wasn't everyday when the actor reprizes his character in a video game. It's really unclear why this happened, to be honest
@@pedroproductions3666 I wonder why they went for an American voice actor for the clones in bf2, even if the game was rushed they could have atleast found another New Zealander to do the voice or someone with a half decent impression. Have you played Star Wars bounty hunter for the ps2? Morrison did a really good job as Jango Fett.
They're equal in my eyes. Although, I must say that I love Boss's dry joke delivery in Republic Commando. "You lizards need to learn that I'm alot scarier than you are..."
Tem does have the range. His voices for Jango, Cody and Boba are all different. Jango’s is unfiltered Māori with a roguish gruffness. Cody and the other clones speak with a more refined militaristic accent, which becomes harsher after Order 66. Boba’s is an even raspier version of Jango’s to convey the damage to his vocal chords from the Sarlacc. So we know that Tem already employs some basic methods to distinguish his roles. I believe he would have been fully capable of voicing the clones in animation as distinct characters. He simply wasn’t given the opportunity. The reason his clone trooper portrayal isn’t as varied as Dee Bradley Baker’s is because it’s unnecessary. Besides Cody and Boss, all the other clone troopers he’s voiced are unnamed side characters. In a feature film, it was unnecessary to give each individual basic trooper unique vocal mannerisms; doubly so for Battlefront.
For the prequels the Clones weren't even designed to be individuals, so as you say what could Tem actually do?. I think people literally forget that, they were meant to be serious, soldiery and slightly more creative biological droids in those films, That's it. George later changed his mind and decided to make them more individualistic a few years later. So I think people judge Morrison on the range end too harshly, he did what George asked him to. I think he will surprise all these people and doubters when older Rex pops up.
Id also mention that his voice for boba also feels like a cross between his jango voice and the Original voice for Boba. First time i heard it i immediately thought of the theatrical cut boba voice
Morrison fit back before the inhibitor chips weren't part of the lore. He had a coldness to his voice that made them all willingly betraying the Jedi they had fought alongside for years believable. With the clone wars came the rise of clones having much more independence and stronger relationships with their Jedi, meaning that same cold voice no longer suits them as well
2008 Clones were turned from actual professional soldiers bred from birth to be killing machines into a bunch of goofy boyscouts. It's honestly sad what's been done to their portrayal lol They'd still be stone cold badasses regardless of the inhibitor chip because that's what they were trained to be from birth for an entire 10 years.
@@baklapjr Absolutely true. I fucking hate the inhibitor chip story line. It sucks so much and people who eat it up will eat anything. I prefer Morrison over Baker as well
@@armaan1091 disagree tbh. I like both but the tragedy of the whole inhibitor chip storyline really adds to their character. They were just pawns in an overarching scheme and thrown out after their use was practically over.
Temura wasn’t given a chance tbh. He’s got the (obviously) perfect voice and a ton of range. Every clone and character he’s ever done, even the 501st trooper in kenobi, had different inflection, tone, and style of speech. Not at all saying Baker’s voices are bad or misplaced. But Temura I think would have done a very good job. He himself is an expressive individual with a great sense of comedic timing and delivery.
@@teamofone1219 This is definitely the answer. Tem would have been too expensive to pay per episode, and since he a movie actor and not just a voice actor. There is no guarantee that he would be available for every episode since filming for other films would get in the way.
Bakers is more kid friendly, childish while Morrison's is more militaristic, gritty and real. The clone wars being animated works with Bakers voice. But man I would love to see and hear more clones with Morrison's voice
kid friendly? nice way of trying to degrade the clone wars but it’s more violent and complex in presentation than any of the films. not to mention the clones there actually had personality
@@sub-zero5433 did I strike a nerve? 😂 I never implied that the clone wars show was childish, nor did I mean to degrade it, nor did I say it didn't give clones personality. I absolutely love the clone wars show.
@@biblemain8192 lmao bro it seems like ur trying to prop up morrison without any basis just cause you feel offended by this video’s ascertain that he’s inferior as a voice actor for the clones as a whole, which is true
@@sub-zero5433 It get more violent and complex as the series goes on. But that cause they realized they had a hit on their hands with both adults and children. They definitely wasn't planning that from the get-go.
BRO ARE YOU SERIOUS? The Bad Batch's voices are so different and unique I thought they'd hired new voice actors to show how 'variant' they are, but they're *all* DBB? Freaking crazy how talented that dude is.
They're both great in their own way. Although, I will say Dee Bradley Baker's range to all the clones did the unthinkable in making most of these characters feel distinct just by the way each of them speak. Especially in Bad Batch, where most of the cast is essentially Dee talking to himself for 25 minutes. You would think it would all blend together and get stale, but it doesn't at all. I give him so much credit as a voice actor. He's easily my favorite!
Dee Bradley baker is one of my favorite voice actors cause one, he is a giant part of my childhood and even know, but also he does things I didn’t even know. Pretty sure he is the “voice” for the jockey, and smoker in left For dead, and another monster from another game I can’t remember. This dude is in basically everything I have either seen or played and it’s awesome
Dee Baker delivered an excellent and varied performance, but my only issue is that he sounds nothing at all like Temuera; making the animated clones feel like different beings from the movie clones. I'm pretty sure working with and getting used to Baker caused the writers to portray the clones differently even as they are written
Agreed. Baker is a phenomenal voice actor, but he sounds too different from Morrison. The only clone he voices who sounds a little like Morrison is Wrecker.
I was actually surprised by the comparison at the end of the video, as while it's not a perfect match you can hear semi-strong similarities. By the end of the show though it definitely is not the same voice, so I wonder if the change was intentional or just happened naturally
Yeah that’s why I have a hard time watching the movies and thinking these dudes are the same ones who we follow in the animated show. Even their personality is different.
Fun fact, you can hear where Dee Bradley Baker got his clone voice from in Avatar the Last Airbender Season 1 Episode 6 at 18:45. He was one of the prison guards.
It explains why every clone talk separately instead of all together now but in Bad Batch the clones argue and all talk together which must’ve taken Baker a long to time to record those lines and for the developers to put the voices together
I find weird how in Republic Commando Tem voices the player character but everybody else is voiced by another person Also, in the battlefront games the in game clones are also voices by other VAs
I always thought the idea was that different clones would develop different accents. Depending on what they went through Or maybe it was just a commando thing
That was in a video extra in the game when you see the making of the game, for giving more personality to each squad member. Besides they do a joke about that in the game.
7:30 Baker does a really good job with his voice, as this video says. But the fact that the image of the clone can be static, and you still can pick out who's who, just shows how amazing of a VA he is
Temura is a great guy, but he's just not really a voice actor, and I'm sure he would have charged WAY more than Baker to do all of that work. Baker has been the iconic voice of clones for me for a long time. He makes every clone it's own character and it's extremely impressive if you're paying attention.
I don't know man, Temuera Morrison really made Boss feel like his own clone in Republic Commando. I'm glad that game got individual voice actors (Andrew Chaikin, Raphael Sbarge, Jonathan David Cook) for the members of Delta Squad, but obviously your point about efficiency in a long running show stands.
Hearing the different voices before, they sounded completely different. But that back to back comparison at the end really showed me how similar Baker's voice is after all
Morrison is easily my favorite basically cuz of the battlefront 501st journal. Thats a warrior who have seen war and is scarred by it. That being said, i really have to give cred to baker as well based on talent alone. Although i prefer morrisons more ruffer voice, baker being able to voice every clone with subtle differences is just incredible!
I like Temura’s voice better. The new clone voice just sounds too goofy to me. But Temura’s sounds much more dark and serious. But then again I also like the portrayal of the clones during the movies and the original clone wars show more than how they are portrayed in the new clone wars show.
Only natural to adapt and personalize the voices after you've turned a plot-device into an actual character I'd say. Let's just put it this way - The clones in the movies never managed to make me tear up from their dialogue, in CW however I did on several occasions. Good soldiers follow orders.
I don’t know how to explain it, but the fact that both Baker and Morrison’s voices are in Battlefront 2 (EA) is something I love. Dee Bradley is all of the clones; troopers, reinforcements, announcers, everything. But Temaura has the darker performance for Boba Fett. In the same world and the same space, it’s great to here them both in the same environment
I’m pretty sure the main reason is because it’s too expensive for them to keep using Morrison for every clone ever, not to mention he was probably getting tired from all the clones he had to voice in both aotc and rots along with several video games.
Tem Morrison *is* the clone army. When I imagine clones, it is Tem speaking. Unless it is the chip induced voice, then it is Dee, but I hate those stupid chips.
@@omarbaba9892 They don't. It makes way more sense for clones to have their own personal reasons to follow the orders, and it is way more interesting to learn about those reasons. Commander Bly and his men do Aayla's execution out of mercy, Gree hates traitors, Bacara disliked Mundi, Neyo couldn't give a f**k, etc.
Tempura Morrison brought the soldier, the hard training, the ability to kill quickly and without remorse, the warrior of a thousand bodies fighting a thousand battles under a thousand suns. The perfect weapon, bred to wage war. Dee Bradley Baker brought the human, the laughter, the loss, the courage, the betrayal. The man with a thousand faces, who wants nothing more than to just be himself.
"[Temura] is absolutely perfect for capturing the intensity and strength of the clone army, and jango, and boba." Me: *cries in missing Jason Wingreen's original voice for Boba Fett*
in my mind, i always said, the movies are how it happened, as it was and how it looks. the animated series was how it was remembered/ recorded. so some slight differences in appearance / sound
This makes so much sense. Im using this. Especially for the videogames. TFU honestly makes a lot of sense if you look at it as an in universe tall tale
To be honest, I love Temuera Morrison for his roles as Jango and Boba and Jake the Muss but I really prefer Dee Bradley Baker as the voice of the clones in the animated series. It may be me just being used to hearing DBB all these years but I can't see Tem Morrison doing the deep voice of Wrecker and Hardcase, the nerd voice of Tech, the snake voice of Crosshair and Cutup's Scott-Irish Accent. If it was the other clones I could see Tem doing it.
I like both of them. It makes sense that Jango/Boba would have a different voice than the clones. They developed differently, and grew at a normal rate (not accelerated). The clones were all "shiny" in episode 2, but were more "battle hardened" by the end of the clone wars, as seen in episode 3. So their voices should be changed, along with the Bad Batches voices, because they were mutated clones if you think about it.
I absolutely LOVE Temuera's voice. It's very menacing and intense. Perfect fit for the live action version of the clones. Dee's version is also ideal for The Clone Wars.
I like how Dee Bradley Baker voices the clones in Star Wars Jedi Fallen Order while Temuera Morrison voices Boba in it's sequel Star Wars Jedi Survivor.
There is a big difference which is skirted around here, or at least not addressed directly. They’re different accents, Bakers impression is entirely Australian whereas Morrison the original is Maori (New Zealand). They’re not actually the same at all and it always annoyed me for no good reason.
It's easy to explain. Too the clones they sound like Dee Bradley Baker, but to everyone else that sound like Temuera Morrison, so in the clone wars when we hear a clones voice we hear it from there pov. That's why cody sounds like Temuera Morrison, in ROTS because we are hearing him from obi wan's pov.
My personal explanation for the voice difference between the Baker and Morison portrayal is how the individual learned to speak. Almost every aspect of speech is learned, so you grow up sounding like the environment in which you were raised. Even as an adult a person can gain and lose accents and adopt different manners of speech because of their environment. So for the initial clone units, personally trained by Fett and having greater exposure to him via face to face conversation or through recordings turned out sounding like him, where as later clones did not have as much exposure to Jango and/or were trained and educated by other individuals thus resulting in later clones having a different accent. Plot holes are of course clones such as Cody who are clearly Morrison in the movies, but Baker in the show and so seem to flip flop between a very close Imitation of Fett and a more individualistic accent. Idk just a shower thought.
I think that Morrisons voice in the Journal of the 501st in Battlefront II is peak. My absolute favourite also lorewise being Knightfall. However I do like both.
Honestly, the clones all having some form of Commonwealth accent gives them that somewhat silly but still cool as hell "stereotypical military operative" feel.
I honestly love both equally, I do respect and love it when they get temurason for the live action and baker for the animated stuff. Personally I’d love to see them act next to each other but until then they’re both amazing in my opinion
I like this explanation because it further bridges the gap between the clones and any that may be left over by A New Hope as stormtroopers. The other explanation had always been conscripts mixing in with the clone ranks.
As an aside, probably the most interesting use of unique clone voices is in Star Wars Republic Commando. Despite Morrison himself portraying the main protagonist Boss, all the other clones have different voice actors, ranging from the squadmates, the advisor, gunship support, etc. And while this may not make sense on a surface level, it makes sense when you consider that the game is always seen from the first-person perspective of Boss from his birth to the last mission on the game. This means that everything you see in that game is viewed from the lens of this very specific clone who, when talking to other clones, will to him sound completely different to how he sounds. This is complimented also by the emphasised design of the other enemies and creatures from the tall, thin, buggish Geonosians; massive wookiees, large and menacing super battle droids, etc.
one fun fact is that in the new battlefront 2, morrison and baker are both there, baker as the clones and morrison as boba, Which means it is intentional when its morrison and when its baker.
Morrison works so well for battlefront 2 with the clone diary entries. Baker works so well for giving personality to the clones. I love em both for their respective roles.
I'll save you 8 and a half minutes. Tem's too expensive to have a weekly animated show. Also they wanted to emphasize different characterization of each clone, and Tem, as good of an actor as he is, has absolutely no vocal range. If all of them were voiced by Tem, no one would have any idea which clone was talking.
For animated series, I prefer Clone Wars clone voice actor over The Clone Wars 2008's Bakers. Baker's for some reason annoyed me even as a kid when watching the movie back in theaters.
