i am become video essayist this video took 8 months to make, it doesn't show in the quality but i'm happy that i was able to get it out at all. voice of chara: www.tumblr.com/wolfkitty42 the last hope: • The Last Hope / Undert...
Honestly, Glitchtale's biggest writting flaw comes after Frisk's death. Not only the ramification of Frisk's and Chara's switching is swept under a rug, but then an entire story arc is shown in 5 minutes, AND THEN Chara gets another change with "uh technicly, he didn't reset, so it doesn't count", and we got no explanation of HOW HIS GHOST WAS ABLE TO GLITCH THAT F@CKING NECKLACE BACK TO THE PAST.
Timeline starts to delete Chara sees a singular file and realises there still a chance and uses their determination to persist and enter that file. Places the locket before their determination time runs out and they die. Locket creates a new outcome and the timeline inst deleted. Things don’t need to be explained when they’re obvious.
Frisk vs Betty is the most iconic fight for that reason, literally generational and it still holds up nowadays(its the third most popular video on cami's channel) shame its the peak and the last good fight man it could've been great💔
its not better story wise and its only better cause they have the funny skeleton guy there...also its literally the fight where we see the gaster asspull power in full play@@skell6134
Personally, i started losing interest in the series when Frisk was erased. Like... really. Someone FINALLY creates an actual compelling Frisk that isn't just a "pwecious cinnamon roll uwu" and they just... kill him off?
@@RufusDavis2 all that's left is to reach for characters who showed up for like 1 whole chapter like Miguel because they killed off everyone else left in the story who can fight
@@RufusDavis2as the strongest human, Frisk. Fought the fraud the queen of fear, he began to level up. Betty shrunk back in fear and that’s when frisk said. “Stand proud Betty, you are determined”
What hurts the most is that, there were originally some CRAZY plans for the fight. Apparently there were old sketches that showed Chara losing an arm and then just growing a new one using HATE on the spot. Asriel was also supposed to go full god mode and from the sketches, it looked way better than what we saw in the episode. Besides, one of the Dreemurrs was supposed to die. Or at least it was heavily implied to be that way. Cami hyped this fight up like crazy saying no one would be ready, and then it ended up being worse than the Kumuzilla fight. My guess is Cami just wanted to rush the finale so she could focus on the prequels, which as you know, got cancelled in the end. By the way thanks so much for mentioning Last Hope! Really happy that people loved it :") Hoping to still see you around by the time we finish NEO Madness, a prequel to LH.
@BlairSFX don’t forget when Betty was gonna attack the arena she stabbed through a humans head and said “Alright, how much more people do I have to kill for you to notice me?” That actually gives her a reason to attack the arena but of course she just had to scrap it. 😐
yea i'm excited for neo madness! it's looking really cool so far from the teasers. can i ask where you found out about the old sketches? were they on camila's patreon, or tumblr, or anything like that? i've heard a ton of other stories about glitchtale having deleted scenes that would have made the story better if they were included.
@@perrykv7312 yeah i think shes working on an entirely different series now called hollow hunters or something. it takes place in the world of meropos but you wont be seeing characters like gaster asgore or agate or copper or anyone u mightve heard of soooo yeah
To be honest, camilla fumbled the series so hard because of her passion and need to work on the prequel, i still remember being a die-hard glitchtale fan and checking social media everyday so i can gen any news about glitchtale and the majority of time camilla complained about how excited she was about making the prequel and wanting to finish with the season 2, this is not a hateful comment towards her but im just dissappointed of her because of the potential she had with the series(ignore the spelling mistakes i made)
I would LOVE to hear your opinion on underverse and the way it handles canon/fanon with it's own interpretation of the characters. While the series shares the same DNA as glitchtale on a undertale fan-created series, the way it branches and avoids the problems that glitchtale does could get it's own video tbh.
Underverse is so good. I love the fact how it recognises that there are more timelines or alternations of one alternate timeline exist at the same time. Like how there are 2 aftertale timelines and possibly more. The only complaint I have is the overwrite button. You normally need the purple soul to use it and yet Chara does so with 95% of a DT soul.. They don't have a single shade of purple so how does that work?
@@ellochickennugget1015It’s because Xchara had 50% of dt from Swap Chara and 50% of Xgaster’s soul. In order to use a fragment of the button, the user has to have at least 50% of determination (not counting Xgaster if he has his full soul). (Source: Underverse 0.3 part 1 & 2 where this is briefly shown, and the official Underverse masterpost on Tumblr)
@@purpledshadow so why can't all other Frisks and Chara's use the button? Also he doesn't have 50% of Gasters soul. The determination half was his part to begin with and it got stolen by Error in the beginning, that's 95% of swap Chara's soul right there.
@@ellochickennugget1015 At the end of Xtale, Cross absorbs Xfrisk’s soul which had half of Overwrite & half of dt but it changes into a half Dt half monster soul. But he still absorbed the half of overwrite. In the Underverse intro of season 1 if you pause at the right time (and at some parts of the episodes as well), his and Xchara’s soul switches to the same half purple (Xgaster) and half red dt soul. K think there’s a better explanation near the end of the main xtale comic though (it’s mostly Cross’s POV of the last episode of Xtale)
I just stopped understanding everything when Frisk was erased and swapped with Chara, I left glitchtale there, and came back to see the finale, oh well
I never understood why the series finale focused on the random human OCs we barely knew. The last fight also was very predictable, nothing new happened, it was just a slice and dice finish. We should have focused more on Chara and Asriel, but instead we got… some angry abusive mom in a hallway??? Wrong time and wrong place The finale should have been about loss imo, and handling that loss. Living on even when many have died, but never forgetting their memory. Letting many live with you. But Camila wanted us to forget dead characters for some reason. It was strange.
9:17 - Aside from what was already said in the video, I would also like to bring up that Asriel's transformation into Demigod of Hyperdeath (fan given name back in 2022 when it came out) completely breaks established Season 2 canon. Episode 4 part 1 established that the reason monsters can bleed and handle determination now is because they have physical matter. Now, Asriel bleeds when Hate stabs him, right? Well, the problem arises when episode 5 establishes that Hate can recreate monster bodies because they're made of magic, but not humans because they're physical. Which means that, since Asriel was revived by Hate, he's made up purely of magic. This means he should NOT be able to bleed, and if he were to transform, he should turn into melting ice cream on the spot, because he lacks the one thing that would make that not happen. What, did he stop at a damn McDonalds on the way to the canyon to fight Hate? How did he even know Chara and Hate were there? I think Glitchtale, as a whole, is a failure writing wise, Episode 9 being the biggest offender of this and feels like the entire first half of the episode is filler. Nothing significant would change if Gaster killing Betty was the end of it and we cut to the second half of Hope, and I don't even like that he was the one who killed her, but it sure as hell is better than whatever *this* is
Only evidence for Asriel being able to handle it would just be the fact he's the son of 2 Boss Monsters and they can handle a Human Soul perfectly so going by the logic Asriel should as well it's probably why Asriel was able to do it 1st time around when he took Chara's OG Soul.
@@thehybrid3947 when a monster absorbs a human soul, they merge together into one, so it's no longer just a human or just a monster soul but something else entirely (also there isn't any indication that it was a boss monster thing), so it's possible it may have different properties. But the problem would still exist here because Asriel is not like that, he doesn't have a hybrid soul, his soul is *purely* a human one (he shouldn't even count as a boss monster), which is weird enough as is, then the physical matter issue comes up, which is funny because it's a problem GT itself created. Honestly speaking, Asriel having a soul that is purely human is so dumb, because we return to the physical matter issue, except we can trace it back to way before episode 9 lmao. Human souls are supposed to have a *lot* of DT in them, yet here's this 100% pure magic being walking around since episode 5 after hate revived him, instead of just melting lol
I noticed this immediately and when Asriel transformed into his god form, I knew that Hate was done for. It was honestly so upsetting and just kind of a bullshit fight for Hate, cause Hate 100% would've won that fight. Chara also has some heavy bull in the fight scene too, if you really watch the fight scene and even slow down some scenes, you can see that Chara counters almost every single one of Hates attacks with a shield or by tanking it. Its especially bullshit when you realized Hate broke Chara's shield multiple times in that fight.
i have followed glitchtale since it was just a fan animation of frisk/chara vs sans with a cool alternate ending, i defended this series to the bitter end! and it's ending was SO fucking disappointing to me. it's so sad because i loved GT's interpretation of gaster, i loved what they did with chara! glitchtale unironically has affected my writing in a significant way and the fact it ended on such a... shitty, low effort note is just.. sad. it sucks! i think season 2 started off decently okay, i personally think people give this series way too much shit purely because camila is a terrible person (which, she is, don't get me wrong. but we're here to talk about glitchtale as a Series not it's creator) but none of it lead to anything meaningful or thought provoking. i get it's ultimately just animated undertale fanfiction but like.. still. betty could of been such a good character, and to some levels i think she isn't a completely horribly written character i think the series dropped the ball when they killed off frisk in such a weird and convoluted manner. really that's my biggest problem with this series as a whole; it kills off characters for no other reason than just to kill them off sorry for the novel length comment but this series meant a lot to me but it's ending just being so.. meaningless and disappointing sucks ass
Ngl dude as a past die-hard fan of the series, you cooked, a great video, I enjoyed it thoroughly. Also, great re-imagination of the ending! I prefer yours actually.
Hello, a long-time follower of Glitchtale and an insider in Camila's personal Discord server here. Allow me to say a few (positive!) things about this video. I'm actually working on an updated review of Glitchtale right now (the first review is available on AO3, though it's very disorganized and kinda outdated in certain regards), so I am very much interested in analyses like this. In some sense, everything within GT "makes sense" / has a "sensible explanation", but like you said, it falls apart as a narrative, as a presented story. Chara's unexplained hatefulness indeed has roots in the UT canon, and Camila assumed this was obvious to the viewer, but clearly, the omission of this information negatively impacted the narrative. If only those things were at least a bit more closely probed in the series instead of being mentioned off the cuff once. Also, I too liked Frisk's arc, because it made sense, and represented the classic underdog trope. However, the above ties to something you haven't mentioned, and that is how much the series "rushed" its storytelling. The reason for not exploring Chara's motivations in detail is that there was literally no time and place for it. I've been following a few projects on Twitter lately that attempt to redesign or rewrite GT. Almost all of them choose to extend the inner time span from just a few days to several weeks or even months. The entirety of GT season 2 takes place in just 5 or 6 days, so the opportunity for character growth is extremely limited in that regard. This issue I believe is also responsible for the whole scene of Asriel's final transformation. Throughout season 2, we've had some allusions to Asriel's true nature, whenever he or Chara talked to his flower-self, but it wasn't nearly as detailed and well-explained to feel emotionally and intellectually satisfying in the end. Again, there was only an allusion to some internal motivation or conflict, but nothing beyond that. Asriel's psychological issues almost seemed like a mere afterthought, like the series presented it to the viewer only from duty, only to give context, not because it actually wanted to. Again, because there was no time for it. In most UT fanfics I've read, the culmination is that Asriel comes to terms with who he is and stops struggling with his sense of self-identity. In GT though, it seems the culmination is merely that he manages to harness his true power. Now, the question is, what did the author mean by this? Clearly, some resolution was achieved here, and I want to believe that it was the former, but the animation gives the impression that it was the latter, that Asriel achieved no psychological epiphany, but rather just managed to control his powers, to harness the full potential of his soul. And this is another thing that I criticized GT for in my original review. It often seemed to me like the usual trope of "characters overcoming their shortcomings" was substituted with "characters manage to control their magic". Now, perhaps I misunderstood, perhaps this is what Camila intended, that she intended magic power to symbolize character development. However, I always hated it. The metaphor, if there was ever any, seemed too opaque for me, and in the light of the series focusing on the fights so much, it just seemed like a cheap self-serving narrative of a character finally learning how to fight well, completely disregarding any inclusion of "character learns to love again / be themselves again", because obviously, love and self-acceptance are useless for fighting, so you either disregard them, or make physical strength be an indicator of mental well-being, both of which are horrible choices for a major character arc. Again, my opinion is that if Camila really wanted to make physical strength symbolize mental strength, then she should have spent more time setting it up. Instead though, we jumped into this new logic of season 2 right after season 1 with no proper explanation, and I always hated Camila for that, I hated that she chose to make it seem like all of this was "obvious", like you were stupid for not getting it. To me, it rather seemed like she was trying to say that "violence is okay because the plot demands it", even if that's not what she intended. I even had a dream about this once, that some character got hurt, but brushed it off because it was normal. Heh, imagine a world that normalizes violence and militarism like that, where children learning how to summon and fight with magical weapons is completely acceptable and even encouraged. So, I guess that is all that I have to say. Also, "season 3" will definitely come out, it will just take a while. First, there will be something called Hollow Hunters, which will introduce the world, and then the actual "Meropos" series will begin. I agree that it is a mess, and I would not fault you for losing interest. Even I'm following it only out of personal obligation to see the project through at this point, rather than actual excitement.
Thank you for this. This if the first time I've seen someone properly give the final a fair critique. Normally people just complain about Asriel while ignoring other characters like Undyne and Gaster technically did bigger "ass pulls"
Fffff.... your idea of what the ending scene shouldve been made me rear up up. I love Chara so much, and knowing for their hate of humanity and themselves, it hits alot more tp hear them say "i want to live" like omg..... this shouldve been the ending......
Man I don’t see how series like glitchtale could have a satisfying ending, it’s so confusing to the point I dunno how it should end! also good explanation
I think we need to step back and remind ourselves that camila isn't a story-teller but an animator(and even that is debatable unless you're looking at the fight scenes). This show peaked during frisk shooting up to level 19 and then after that i cant remember what the heck happened anymore aside from the gaster/sans/papyrus vs betty fight.
Asriel simply didn’t get enough development with Chara to justify the final fight. Any potential character development was lost when Camila decided to make him evil for 4 of the 9 episodes of season 2. If he had gotten more development, things would've been more impactful imo.
My perspective is that the part of the fandom this series was meant for simply grew out of it, and there just isn't enough in it except for mayhe some nostalgia to hook people in by itself after all the years. Very simply little take and an attitude towards things that's just what it is and goes nowhere further.
The reason the sans's death triggered me is that in the original game, HE CAN LITERALLY AFECT TIME AND SPACE AND USE IT TO PRANK YOU WHEN YOU ENTER IN HIS ROOM ! Sans could've just switched his place with betty when she shot.
Sans most likely was in shock though if he wasn't then with his determination boosted power he probably could have messed with time and space to an even greater degree of what he could normally do its a shame that power is never used in focus of JUST sans spamming gaster blasters
@@t-eehee7057When you enter in sans's room, you walk in an empty void, Then papyrus turn on the light and then says "DID SANS PRANKED YOU THROUGH TIME AND SPACE ? I HATE WHEN HE DOES THAT !"
@@PrintThemit's the room unlit. Papyrus most likely thought he teleported Frisk, which is messing with space. I'm not sure about his time abilities although we do see it in Snowdin.
@@ellochickennugget1015 I think he means when sans is able to give you the secret passwords to prove you're a time traveler but to be honest he just seems like a guy to have random passwords memorized to prank people who are nosey
That was a pretty good video! The script feels nicely paced, your voice is very nice for narration and the video editing is funny and visually interesting, I know next to nothing about glitchtale but this was entertaining on it's own. Also 6:17 hey I made that :D
My personal problem with the final episode is how if you cut all the fights after betty's death nothing would change, there was no progression for anyone here. Also the hate's fight is one of the most dull things i have seen, i just felt nothing watching it.
HOLY SHIT 8:37 if this scene was actually happened in the original, it would've made people more upset and deeply affected by it including me. U inspired me to draw that scene :D
So, this is coming from someone who has been following and enjoying Glitchtale for years. I love the series and it holds a very special place in my heart. I think the problem, though, is not that it is a bad series, but that it’s an amateur one. It was made up as it went by one lady working in her own home. The vision from the start of the start of the series wasn’t what we got in the end. I think it would be a good idea to write down all of the established lore and world building and then use that to make a good, in-depth re-write. Honestly, the potential is there to make something absolutely amazing! It just needs some serious fine-tuning to get there.
I mean it was still a decent series. Sure the writing and plot were sometimes questionable but the fight scenes, the music, the emotional scenes, and the imaginative new direction for undertale, all of it was done ridiculously well. Don’t get so caught up in its flaws that you forget its strengths.
@@BlueSoulGameryou could also say the opposite, the awful story telling really brings down a lot of those emotional scenes. Jessica’s death meant nothing to me because I don’t care about her, anything with Ronin or Rave just took up screen time in my eyes. The only things I really cared about was the original characters that UNDERTALE made me love not Glitchtale. I have more complaints but I don’t really want to entirely bash this show. Like you said the combat is pretty good
I have a quick question, how did Betty even die? We were literally told, again and again that only determination can beat fear, the why does Gaster just kills her? It does not make sense, yeah you could argue that "the beams were red so they have determination" or some shit like that, but then why building up the determination vs fear when you just use a bald eggman to finish the job?
good video! I share a lot of these sentiments and thoughts. Calm straightforward narration with fun not-too-over-the-top editing :) also thanks for mentioning last hope (I helped work on it hehe)
Chara: You need to be responsible for your sins!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Also Chara: Sorry I tried to do a snowgrave with you Asriel and got us killed, what a whoopsy am I right? XD Lets forgive and forget :3
I think you did good job explaining about the disappointing ending of GT, I lost interest because of how much Camila kept changing from UT and kept changing overall.
Actually, I am a very big fan of the GT series, but I suffered from it. A lot. All thanks to season 2! I mean, like S1, S2 had some PEAK moments I am truly in love with, like Frisk vs Betty fight and of course Gaster rematching the whole HELL out of this pink [beast]. The second fight is just the point when the show must have been stopped. For the greater good. Like, come ON, Camilla! You did your very, VERY best to WISELY, SLOWLY build up Gaster's poor mental state, and then you made it BLAST like a darn NUKE! I thought I was watching JJK type of stuff. You prooved that W.D. Gaster is truly the most powerful, most frightening character in the show. Make it stop, make this poor old man even DIE for that, no one will scream "EWW, WHYY!?!?!/11/11/1???"! EVERYONE will just pay respect for dead G, who made FEAR feel FEAR, who killed HATE with HATE!.. But he-e-e-e-e-ell nah, "Cami want Moni" accident happened. So here we are, yupie.
Honestly, I only liked the first season of Glitchtale, and then it separated itself so much from the source material that it ended up becoming an AU, (it wouldn't be a problem if Camila didn't insist that it's an AT)
GREAT VIDEO!! These are pretty much my thoughts exactly and it's nice to see someone else come to the same conclusion. Tho I will say I think you missed what was going on with Chara and Asriel ever so slightly. I wish he did, but Chara didn't ever take up the main character spot. He was a supporting character for Asriel's arc, which was about his bottled emotions. Hope's intention was to showcase how much stronger Asriel is now that he's no longer doing that. This is one of my biggest gripes with Glitchtale because Asriel's arc is probably the deepest and most relatable arc and, like a lot of things in Glitchtale, it is not made clear whatsoever. I don't think I've seen a single person understand what went on with him. Gaster for example WAS made clear. He had that buildup scene where he flashbacked to everything that built to that moment. IF THEY JUST GAVE ASRIEL A MOMENT LIKE THAT BEFORE HE TRANSFORMED, Hope would've been MILES better. But yeah. Those are my thoughts. I'm actually working on a small thing called "Glitchtale Season 2.5" where I go in and try to put a few things that were missing front and center. And I also give Chara that big arc they were missing. From what you were saying, I think you'd love it. But anyways, sorry for the rant, really love the video! Hoping to make one of my own eventually. About what I think Glitchtale did and didn't do right. We'll see. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
to me glitched tale was something special since it was something I used to watch when younger, but that last episode like I was so hyped up for it and it took so much time I imagined how much of a monster hate would like it would be the final fight of the series and since mostt of them didnt disapoint I was so hyped, then the monster was just a black guy, literally and when I saw it I never continueed the episode I dont even know what hapens after that, also I rewatcheed all of it for that last episodee and oh gosh from an older eye it is so bad like the only reason you would watch it is for the fights tthats it
I feel like Frisk being replaced is what ruined the series, and I know this has been repeated again and again but to explain what I mean a little bit: The hate, at least before all the weird prequel stuff came up, was made by Frisk, it's a monster of his own making, him being erased and throwing Chara at his problems feels like such a cheat, he MADE every problem in the series, and then just gets to walk away? On top of that, it would have made so much more sense for the final battle to be between Frisk and Hate, like forcing him to confront his own mistakes, it's bad enough that he never had to deal with the consequences of allowing Bete to be created by fucking up the timeline, but Frisk made everybody else's lives worse, and killed people with no conclusion, no justice or atonement of any kind, he just gets off scott free and loads his problems on to everybody else.
Theres another thing I have a ton of issues with. 80% of all well-animated scenes (especially the 1st half of the Hate fight) were already shown in the trailer. The trailer was just perfect, but seeing almost all scenes repeat, and the overall story of the episode being almost non existent, the episode felt very underwhelming, with the best part of the episode (the animation) already being exposed a lot in the trailer
3:19 season one chara gains the hate because it’s explained that when frisk killed monsters he got hate from the monster from being killed and frisk threw the hate off their soul onto chara during season one and it’s explained at the end of season one chara says "do you know where that hate ended up right into me" Frisk made the hate exist then onto chara because they didn’t believe in consequences
Well, when you wonder why Alphys was never mentioned again after her death, you start to notice something kinda sus between....undyne and one of the human oc's....kinda disgusting ngl
Glitchtale is genuinely incredible! *Unfortunately, it suffers from the fact that no matter how pretty it looks, its still undertale fanfiction and camilla is not a professional writer*
@@BlueSoulGamer I am an animator who makes animations of my original characters, and while I haven't done any projects nowhere near as big as glitchtale it doesn't excuse bad character designs. even if camila may be aiming for simpler designs to make animation easier, there is still quite a lot of soul you can add to it
@@stitchperlo9639 ... *first off, ALL ART IS JUST A COLLECTION OF SQUARES AND CIRCLES, all art at its most basic form is basic shapes.* Secondly, id fucking like to see you try and do better. Thirdly, every single design in that show is original because it looks nothing like undertale.
I personally think the whole continent and world-building was pretty good! just that- the character designs and a good chunk of the themes could've been handled with better care.
I'm not gonna lie, the worldbuilding kind of trashed the original story and everything it was originally about. It was kind of weird, but whatever. They kind of made a weird origin story that didn't really match up with the themes of the actual story. To be honest, Frisk's arc was really messed up. I think it would be cooler if they decided to use their remaining time to go on a rampage, destroying as much of their enemy as possible, before passing everything down to Chara in one final strike. So the answer with their question of how to deal with an uncertain future, is to just keep fighting on.
I honestly feel like Hate was done dirty in Hope, im sorry but should've won that fight. If you slow down the entire fight and watch how many times Chara manifests a shield out of nowhere to counter almost every single one of Hate's attacks, its bull; and once Hate gets a "advantage" in the fight (killing Asriel), Asriel just says nuh uh and uses one hand to break Hate's DT broadsword while its inside his chest. The Last Hope is good, but Hate was made to be more like a joke during some of the fight; and he still lost despite killing Chara, and Asriel goes through like 2 transformations. Would it have been disappointing for a lot of people that Chara and Asriel, and whoever else died to Hate in Hope? Yes, but for me and maybe a few others, no. When Bete Noire died and unleashed Hate it was honestly seemed like such a threat. The way that Hate was introduced that basically the world stopped for moment as a beam of pink shot into the sky and the entire sky turned into a pinkish/black. It made this feel as if the world was ending and this all powerful being was just unleashed to kill everything, and given how truly powerful Hate is; it would've happened. However as I said earlier, Chara countered 90% of hates attacks just by tanking it or a shield, despite hate breaking / cracking the same shield over and over. I honestly I feel like that hate winning would've been a perfect way to end Glitchtale and Season 2, would it have left a lot of unanswered questions and made people upset? Hell yes. There is just no way I'm watching Season 3 after that fight, Hate was honestly made out to be a joke. You can kind of like how the new suicide squad game made Batman's death horrible, nobody is mad that he died; its how he died.
If camila did not stole/trace animations from animes, stay out from disgusting stuff and controversies, even though the series is kinda cringe when some ope character such as asriel become weaker and did not activate his god mode making him die early, or gaster is only op when he's introduced for the first time etc, i don't really think glitchtale will receive more hate. It's just sad seeing people in ut become worse people or pred*t*r etc. Man this is just too bad.
Hate coming sadness and tragedy is pretty sick too bad it was fumbled. It sucks because I was a fan of Camilia's work during her RHG days. I wanna drive home that point by bringing up a moment in Monument Mythos that is just so good. Imagine you are a being with unfathomable power. You have been used, and abused by the people you defended because of your power. Wrongly tortured, and malformed. Then you're part of a new home, a new kingdom of sorts. Until your wife, your children, everything you knew was wiped out in a fierce battle with another entity of great power. Mutually assured destruction, and in the ruined world. There you are, alone, surviving, and wracked with pain. You have unfathomable power, you are a God, but you couldn't save anyone and it all ripped away from you unjustly. Your sadness festers and corrodes into resentment, but there is nothing to release your anger on. You can only weep, for what you lost. You are a God of Nothing. "Grief made him a monster." That one line is so great because it speaks volumes. It shows how men become monsters by letting their traumas, their grief twist and define them. Until all they can do is lash out at whatever they perceive as what wronged them. Characters in Monument Mythos are often subject to injustice and grief. But the answer the story provides us, is that by banding together through love. We can overcome the monsters of our own making.
I feel like Cami was trying to set something up in the final stretch of the series, then when she realized there wasn't enough time, just dropped it completely.
That is just something I thought up randomly but why not lol. You don’t exactly murder everyone as a soulless flower and end up fine or at least I doubt it lol. So one way or another hate possesses asriel turning him into an asriel/flowey amalgamation which kills chara. As this is going on Papyrus is grieving his brother and decides that he would want him to save people from the collateral damage of chara/asriel/hate’s fight. Cut back to the hate possessed Asriel/flowey standing over chara’s corpse about to destroy their soul when a red gloved skeletal hand snatches it away…
See this is why you don't rush things and take the time to think through whatever it is you're writing. This is something fanfic writers should take note, now excuse me as I go write everything you shouldn't do😊
Oh great I thought I was the only person thinking this. Me watching the finale years ago was how tf did a threat so scary and intimidating end so lacklusterly and in just a basic battle. The final good battle in glitchtale was Gaster Papyrus and Sans fighting Betty.
I wasn’t really disappointed but I was just in a blank as I watched the finale because it was a whole year since episode 8, and during that time I really didn’t care much about the actual series, I honestly thought they just ended it there for some reason
For Me Playing Kirby return to dreamland Deluxe True Arena Fighting Magalor Soul And The Context of that battle Felt Like A Bit of What Hope Last Battle Could have been (Also Amber Deserve Better) Regardless this a great video
The problem is that the plot is effectively forced to a certain conclusion, turning characters like chara and asriel into plot devices, with little to no change in their personalities. Hate itself only really acts like a generic version of a venom symbyote, or the darkness from kingdom hearts, despite being to Frisk what Kuma was to Betty. It feels like everything in that fight was forced, and all the tension was released with the death of betty. Edit: The problem with hate coming from someone else is that it undermines frisks original ark of taking acountability. You could argue that Frisk abused the reset, but by frisks own admision to asriel, the only thing past the endings was a blank screen. Meaning leaving Chara to hate created by their own actions was what Frisk first did wrong, and that hate coming from someone else means that Frisk was in the same position as Chara. Which by glitchtales logic, makes Frisk as excuseable as Chara.
as much as I think Hope was fine enough, my main gripe is something that I think would've elevated the fight. Why doesn't hate keep using the other soul traits? Given we KNOW it can use it's own form of the traits magic, given it can be seen as inheriting them from Chara originally. But it shows if used in tandem, it could very easily win. It had a power that forced chara to the floor, then attacked with another soul type. What's to say it couldn't use that attack and the DT floor beam? I wish we'd seen more of the fight with it using a variety of magic with its sword.
