Why the Herman Miller Mirra 2 is better than the Aeron

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The Herman Miller Mirra 2 is not a chair that is talked about enough, yet it's been a fierce competitor and alternative to the famous Aeron. In this video, we take a look at all the features, customizations and technology behind the Mirra 2.
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Timeline:
0:00 - Introduction
0:29 - History of the Mirra
1:16 - Aesthetics
2:00 - Backrest Design
2:41 - Armrest Design
3:18 - Chair Size
3:49 - Armrest Adjustments
4:37 - Lumbar Support
5:13 - Seat Depth Adjustment
5:51 - Seat Height Adjustment
6:04 - Chair Tilt Limiter
6:39 - Tilt Tension Adjustment
6:58 - Summary
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@hayzbb 2 года назад

Great review -- just to clarify the Mirra 1 came out in 2003 and the Mirra 2 Came out in 2014. If a chair looked this good in the 1990s wed have floating chairs by now

@ShawnKoh Год назад

My mistake

@mremerald8586 Год назад

Omg can you imagine a floating fucking chair??? You are just floating there

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

@@mremerald8586 A levitating chair, probably one resting on an air cushion thanks to opposing magnets.

@devincampbell5007 10 месяцев назад

We’d have nice looking chairs right now, but they wouldn’t be floating. If this came out in the 60s on the other hand (or maybe 70s) then we might have floating chairs

@flip4119 2 года назад

im not even in the market for a chair of this price but great video. Was really surprised to see your subscriber count with videos of this quality. keep it up man!

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

Glad it was helpful! Thanks!

@LaralittleTV Год назад

Thanks! Very helpful 😎

@privatesocialhandle Год назад

Great vid. Question if I my, if I tested an Aeron size B at a show room and they did not have the Mirra, is the Aeron size B fit and feel is close enough to the Mirra? Thanks ahead. Note: Atlas (Best Herman Miller headrest maker) is making a headrest for Mirra 2 by end of 2023.

@martinyau3670 2 года назад

Hi Shawn, Great video, thanks! Yes please on the comparison to the Aeron. I've ordered the Mira 2, and we are on the fence for another one or an Aeron as the 2nd chair. The missus will probably have the pretty Mira 2, and I'll go for the Aeron if more business like for me.

@ShawnKoh Год назад

I might just do that video, but in the mean time, personally I feel the Mirra feels better, both in-terms of the built quality, weight and comfort :)

@martinyau3670 Год назад

@@ShawnKoh Hey Shawn, how goes? :). Yes, the Mirra 2 took some breaking in for me, but is great now. Be great to see the differences with the other HM chairs as well :)

@abbie2654 Год назад

Did you get butterfly, or triplex?

@hussainmahmoud7881 Год назад

Thank you. Really nice video. I am deciding between the triflex and mesh. Both on sale and almost same price here

@acundo123 Год назад

butterfly suspension is much better than the triflex

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

The butterfly backrest is amazing, definitely get that instead of the regular plastic backrest.

@1972mdc 3 месяца назад

Thx for the video - I’m on the fence between the 2 (both refurbished) and trying to decide if the extra few hundred should be spent or saved Also curious what your desk setup is? I have an uplift desk with custom ply top but would love to build something a bit nicer like yours

@cameltroop Год назад

Hi Shawn love the review! I sent you an email about the Mirra 2 Headrest...

@rahulsingh78 2 года назад

Hi great video. Where did you buy the tubelight thats leaning against your wall from? What are the specs as it looks really cool.

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

That's the Nanlite Pavotube :)

@StardustLegacyFighter 2 года назад

I have a friend who has the Mirra 2 at work and he says it's not worth the expensive price tag, as the quality doesn't match. I still want to try it out for myself before I make a final judgement.

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

Try it out at the stores, in my opinion, herman miller chairs are one of the best in the world, and if you want the best, you'll have to be ready to pay for it.

@StardustLegacyFighter 2 года назад

@@ShawnKoh I went to his office and tried it out for myself, it's 100% worth the price and the best chair I've ever sat on. I think he felt it didn't look premium in terms of aesthetics, but I disagree on that entirely. However, he did acknowledge that it's a top tier chair and why it's pretty expensive, once I showed him what it excels at. Edit 1: I did order one for myself and it arrived a few days ago. I've been loving it so far, but I've had some pain in my outer thighs if I sit on it for a long amount of time. I'm not sure if it's down to the seat not being big enough for me or whether I'm not sitting on it properly. I will see how it goes for the next few days, if I continue to get leg pain I'll exchange it for the size C Aeron. Edit 2: I ended up returning the Mirra 2, since the leg pain did go away when I learned how to sit better, the but the seat pan still felt a little small. I ended up getting the Aeron size c, and it's been absolutely amazing so far. The seat pan is generous and I have had 0 leg pain issues since buying it. I did initially get some discomfort in my back, but it's subsided over time due to my posture improving.

@yawshinwong1429 2 года назад

Hi, how does this compare to th Sayl? I really like your videos, keep it up!

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

Hey! Thanks for the support! I have not yet tested the Sayl, but from what I observed, has similar features and adjustments except for the different way it adjusts the seat depth as well as the lack in an adjustable lumbar support. I do like the minimalistic profile of the Sayl back, if you want a smaller and less bulky chair. But for me I prefer the Mirra 2 for the lumbar adjustment and also the aesthetics of the design :) But then again, Sayl is cheaper hahaha

@freedonx 2 года назад

I used a Sayl at my former work for 4 years. Didn't have the lumbar support and didn't really notice it being a good chair. I have the bad habit of sliding a bit down as time goes time, so I was pretty much horizontal position. I was way thinner and didn't have back problems like now, but my experience with Sayl wasn't great. Just ordered a Mirra 2, but Triflex and not butterfly as the one shown in the video

@joshbaesal 2 года назад

How does it compare to the Steelcase Think? I have an old Think V1 that I'm looking to upgrade to either the Remastered Aeron or Mirra 2. Which one would you recommend?

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

Well I think both chairs are great, but the Herman Miller feels like a stronger built. It feels like it has the strength to support you. On the other hand, the Think is lighter, more flexible and fits into smaller spaces. So it depends why you want an upgrade, if its to get more support then yes the Aeron or Mirra 2 is a great option.

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

The Think is very mediocre, more comparable to the Lino and Verus from Herman Miller.

@LostStylus Год назад

Does it also push you feet off the floor when reclining like Aeron and embody does? Do you have any thigh pain issues with this chair? Looking to switch my Embody to it (had Aeron too, but I feel the frame in the front with my thighs)

@ShawnKoh Год назад

Well i believe that most feet would lift off the ground slightly when you recline, but not much.

@LostStylus Год назад

@@ShawnKoh I actually got this chair for a test-drive and my feet do not lift off like on the embody or aeron

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

That's strange, my feet don't lift off the ground when reclining in the Aeron. I think you might have the seat height set incorrectly, as I do remember having the same issue, when I first sat in the Aeron and hadn't finished adjusting it properly.

@LostStylus Год назад

@@StardustLegacyFighter you're probably right, lowering Aeron helped. Not so much with EMbody though

@jamesmadison3108 2 года назад

Another thing is...if u buy the Aeron and Mirra 2 in Singapore, it is not true that the Mirra is cheaper. There is not only Xtra that sells herman miller. Other parallel importers sell Aerons much cheaper than the mirra 2 and most Singaporeans buy from the parallel importers instead of Xtra which cost like $500 to $600 more. Warranty wise is similar, just that the parallel importers will be the one helping you with the warranty. It is the same as well in the USA. If people were to buy from authorised dealers instead of Herman Miller directly, they will save big margins like 40 percent off the listed price by Herman Miller.

@ShawnKoh Год назад

ok cool

@lookingaheadoftime Год назад

May I ask who else sell Herman Miller in Singapore? I meant authorized dealers

@jamesmadison3108 Год назад

@@lookingaheadoftime forget about buying from authorized dealer in sg. They charge a premium and still charge delivery fees after 1 year. No difference from parallel importers. I bought 8 chairs from parallel importers and the service rendered is amazing. Only spend about 1.4k+ after coupons and credit card cashback rebates. Don't ask me who and how.not advertising for anyone. Figure that out on your own. But bottom line, it's stupid to get from Xtra and pay 2.1k for a same product and service.

@Slidjetster 2 года назад

How does Singapore's Ergotune chair's mesh compare to this mesh?

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

Herman Miller has spent decades refining their meshes and I feel its the best ones out there. It has enough support but also flexibility so that it isnt too stiff. Ergotune’s is fine but i suspect it won’t last as long and wi begin to sag. At the end of the day, you get what you pay for :)

@jamesmadison3108 2 года назад

@@ShawnKoh i am an owner of multiple Aerons. I resell quite a few to make some money as well. Prefer how the Aeron classic feels when your bum hits on it because it has the hammock feeling to it due to the tilt angle on the older classic model. Currently my daily driver is the Aeron remastered and i sold all my classics away just because of the 12 year warranty and though the seat feeling is diff from the classic, the mesh on the remastered is better in terms of breathability and design. Feels more sturdy as compared to the Classic Aeron's mesh. Classic Aeron's mesh seems to be softer and feels more prone to sagging, but of course i doubt it will sag since its tested with time. In terms of ergotune, I subscribed to a credit card and will be given a free ergotune haha... but thats like 3 months away. Just for fun to get that free gift, i am sure i will sell that away.

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

@@jamesmadison3108 Aeron's mesh is supposed to be more flexible, since it has zones of flexibility that the classic model's mesh lacked.

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

No one makes mesh better than Herman Miller. The only other companies that come close are Humanscale and Eurotech.

@Mind69420 6 месяцев назад

any idea how to make the chair less noisy when I recline? Lots of creaking

@orbispictus6127 5 месяцев назад

maybe it's a faulty chair?

@ShawnKoh 5 месяцев назад

Yeah the chair shouldn’t squeak

@yvonnemills9028 8 месяцев назад

Thanks so much. You're one of the few people who talks in depth about seat comfort, which is the most important thing for me. Would you say Mirra 2, Sayle or Embody has the best seat comfort? For reference, I'm an older lady at 70, 5' 4'' and 170lbs. I currently have an Eames look alike which kills my backside and tailbone and seems to cut off my circulation to the legs and feet.

@oliverkuhn8018 8 месяцев назад

Mirra 2

@setitfree78 Год назад

We're you in "Bloodsport"?

@ShawnKoh Год назад

Cool

@7thguest672 Год назад

Yang Sze

@muratttt006 2 года назад

I have been a Mirra 2 user for 4 years. I bought a remastered Aeron (C Size) last month. After using it for 1 week, I have back and lower back pain. I returned the product. The Mirra 2 is a better chair than the Aeron, at least for me. I think the fact that the Mirra 2 is a concave seat has a big part in this.

@StardustLegacyFighter 2 года назад

Actually, the Aeron has a concave seat. The Mirra 2 chair has a fairly flat seat and it's only curved towards the back.

@muratttt006 2 года назад

@@StardustLegacyFighter The Aeron's back is just a net. Mirra has a plastic pulley that supports the back and shoulders, and also makes a big difference in stretching movements.

@SuperWhofan1 2 года назад

I’m 6’ 2” tall. Would the Mirra work for me? I tried the Aeron and there’s something about the seat I don’t like.

@ShawnKoh Год назад

Great points!

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

@@muratttt006 I've used both as well, and tbh I like both backrests. The Aeron doesn't have a flexible frame like the Mirra 2, but it doesn't stop me from reclining back and stretching however I want. Even though I returned the Mirra 2 and got the Aeron size c, I still love it and would recommend it to anyone.

@mobiledesignofficial 2 года назад

What about the mesh seat? For me is the most importat comparison and the video doesnt say anything

@StardustLegacyFighter 2 года назад

It's good if you're not too heavy and don't have a big ass, otherwise you're better off with the Aeron.

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

Thanks

@Youdude2 2 года назад

How does this compare to the Embody?

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

The Embody chair just arrived, will do some comparisons soon!

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

Totally different type of chair. The Embody has a lot of interesting things going on with the pixelated backrest and suspension seat, whereas the Mirra 2 has all the adjustments one could ever want.

@kingech_B15 2 года назад

Can the wheels lock?

@ShawnKoh 2 года назад

@kingech_B15 2 года назад

@@ShawnKoh yikes. No good

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

@@kingech_B15 Why the hell would that be an issue? It's a desk chair ffs, not a drawer pedestal or a trolley.

@LostStylus Год назад

After sitting interchangeably on Aeron and Mirra 2 I would say that Mira has better seat, but worse backrest. The lumbar support on Mirra does nothing for me and there is not enough sacrum support. Long story short, Mirra 2 gives me back pain and Aeron gives me thigh pain, choose your poison I guess.

@amokranechentir4172 Год назад

With regard to the Aeron, have you tried lowering the seat a bit? I found out that I get thigh pain only if the seat is too high (knee stacked over ankle).

@ShawnKoh Год назад

Ahaha i agree, the Mirra's lumbar isnt as effective as the Aeron's, but somehow I'd prefer the Mirra still.

@gilwe Год назад

Had both. The Mirra isn't better than Aeron, at least not the Aeron Remastered.

@ShawnKoh 9 месяцев назад

To each his own :) Glad you had a chance to test both, i think everyone has their own preferences:)

@antondubkov Год назад

After using Mirra 2 for about 8 months I got a chance to use Aeron. I instantly felt that it is better than my mirra 2, it has some similarity in feel, but is better in almost every way, starting from the type of mesh, soft comfortable back, much better feeling tilt mechanism, much softer and more comfortable armrests, which as a whole results in a completely different experience. I ended up buying an Aeron for myself. If you are thinking of buying a mirra 2 - I recommend to either shell out on an Aeron, or otherwise get some inexpensive generic office chair. Do not buy Mirra 2

@supbrice Год назад

hahaha I am reading this after just buying one for $250 and it's almost new ...I don't mind

@antondubkov Год назад

@@supbrice I hope you like it :) for 250 it's ok

@supbrice Год назад

@@antondubkov Yeah It's actually good. Before I bought the Mirra 2. Before picking this one out. There were tons of Aerons available which I tried and just one Mirra 2 left so that too made me pick Mirra 2. 😁

@troecurov3 Год назад

Хотел спросить Антон, до сих пор так думаете? Не могу выбрать никак

@PandaXpress17 11 месяцев назад

It's so subjective - I recommend everyone try both if possible and not just go off of a youtube comment. I have the Embody, Aeron, and Mirra 2. After sitting in the Aeron for about a year, it just hurt. The plastic dug into my thighs and it forced me to sit one way and one way only. In comes the Mirra 2 - the ability to bend the front part of the chair down is a game changer. The plastic rim is less than half of the width of the plastic on the Aeron. Don't sleep on the Mirra, I did for the longest time. My Mirra 2 is now my work chair and Embody for gaming at night.

@rollforever_85 Год назад

The Mirra 2 aggravates my back no end. Even with the butterfly back 😑

@ShawnKoh Год назад

@rollforever_85 Год назад

@@ShawnKoh sucks for me after making the investment, but hopefully not an issue for most people

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

That sucks, but it could be because you're not sitting correctly or it's painfully fixing your bad posture. 🤷

@rollforever_85 Год назад

@@StardustLegacyFighter I have been sitting in it with correct posture, I just find the back rest far too hard. I now have it tilted forward though, which has taken a decent amount of the pressure off my back whilst tasking. Still not a very comfy back rest imo. I tried the Humanscale Diffrient World chair the other day and was blown away by how comfortable it was.. I already ordered one. lol xD

@rollforever_85 Год назад

@@StardustLegacyFighter And yeah I have anterior pelvic tilt after years of sitting on crappy chairs, so have an over pronounced arch in my back. Will be interesting to see how I get on after a full day in the Diffrient World chair 🤞

@TheFrayman 21 день назад

This chair cuts off the blood circulation to my legs

@TheBoneruner Год назад

If Arnold Schwenegger was an Asian bratha then it be Shawn

@acrylix3073 4 месяца назад

Base is worse than Aeron for people working from home in socks and who rest their feet on the legs. Why aeron favors a sharp design for the legs and stupid rounded cushions for the arm rests is a mystery.

@dwight2310 7 месяцев назад

sorry but no one can hang with a fully loaded Aeron R.

@mremerald8586 Год назад

I had the secret lab chair the Batman one, it fucked my back up so bad I’m currently almost recovered from a back sprain. If you golf a lot do not buy a secret lab. Buy a mirra 2. I just got it 30 mins ago. It just feels better and right. Now any chair I’ve had I’ve never use the arm rests ever I just lay my arms on my desk.

@rollforever_85 Год назад

The Mirra 2 aggravates my back no end, such a hard back rest. Hope you enjoy yours more than I did.

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

@@rollforever_85 You should have gone for the Butterfly back upgrade, it makes a massive difference.

@StardustLegacyFighter Год назад

Secretcrap chairs are back killers for sure, I don't trust anyone who recommends that overrated piece of crap.

@mremerald8586 Год назад

@@rollforever_85 dude my back has never felt better sitting in a chair for hours gaming. Mira 2 is the best I’d say

@rollforever_85 Год назад

@@StardustLegacyFighter I do have the butterfly back