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Why the Rank 1 Shen Always Takes Heal 

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@Shending_Help
@Shending_Help 16 дней назад
To add to what others are already saying, yes, this is me. Yes, i stream some of my games on Twitch. The video got a lot of things right, but let me add some context: -That example of me roaming cross the map from Top to Bot pre-lvl-6 was an outlier and not something i generally recommend, even if the points about scaling is true. I think i did it that specific game because a combination of 1) team was losing early 2) I had a bigger than normal crash while being healthy 3) I didn't see my Ally champs coming back from a deficit or staying safe until i could R. Anyway, it's generally better to play for yourself and take necessarily resets for Ruby crystals in the downtime, especially if you don't have TP early. -For when I'm Mid lane I'd say the 'being a second jungler early on' is accurate, but for toplane my ultimate goal in early lane if I'm winning early (preferably with a solokill already) and got myself a good crash into reset is actually not to roam pre-6, but to create a freeze and zone enemy top from XP. Not necessarily to get myself ahead for later, but to make it into a 5v4 with enemy top 3 lvls behind the curve. Ofc I'm not looking to freeze forever since I eventually need to play for team (duh), but lvls 4-7 is primetime for this, and if you got a perfect freeze it can be more worth for the game to keep the enemy on 0 XP than to save botlane. Then you'd let someone die in bot while prioritsing R's mid and top jgl (unless your bot has Shutdown) -The point about staying around for a 2nd play after already having R'd bot for example, before heading back top is very very true, and the reason for that is that you usually already commited to losing some plates/waves top, and while it stings to lose another by staying a bit, the difference isn't actually as big as the initial decision whether to R or not. If you got the chance to stick around with your jungler or ad/supp and dive the enemy ADC when they come back into lane after the 1st death on a dive (or catch them between towers) it's gonna completely warp the game. And even if it doesn't kill them, just chunking them and zoning them off for an extra wave of gold/xp (while you're losing the same top) is super worth it. -As for Redemption use, you mentioned a lot of the small upsides like Vision and Using while dead, but the MAIN reason Redemption is so good on Shen is that Shen makes up for redemptions biggest weakness, namely that the ally might die so the heal doesn't have time to come in or they might flash/dash out of it. By always knowing you still got a huge shield, you can wait until very late (unless the enemy has obscene amounts of dmg available) in the fight where your carry has already flashed/dashed and enemy is truly commited before using Redemption, knowing your R will keep them alive for the heal to come in. Closing comment about support items/heal in general: The main ways I think about Shen is in terms of his strengths/weaknesses. Strengths: lvl 1-5 laning (using dragthrough Q's) and making any fight into a man advantage and winning it before enemy all joins. Shen's weakness lies in his scaling with gold (since he lacks AD scaling and doesn't have a kit like Ornn or Sion to frontline as a tank even with the same items), and his waveclear. This means he's fundamentally a weak splitpusher, even with his R in mind, since he can't push up waves if an enemy is there to match you, and you often won't be able to kill them at 2+ items even from ahead. So if that's the case, why not play lane well and build your individual lead as much as possible early on, but then switch buildpath (from bami, which is lane focused) into supportive items so you transition to the most useful role just as your champ would normally slowly start falling off. These items both synergize with what you're trying to do AND have a base value that's not linked to your terrible scaling. Quick correction: In the build-section, I saw Unending despair listed, and i never build that item, since it falls in the category of items that gets stronger the longer you're in a fight. I think items that give instavalue the first couple seconds of the fight makes a lot more sense, since Shen is all about making the fight into a 3v2, 4v3, 5v4 and winning before the last enemy joins, so the first couple seconds are key (items like: Redemp, Locket, Vow, Randuin, Moonstone (not 100% sure about this one but seems to work), Kaenic). "So Shending, is it troll to build more aggro? I get bored of supporting" -Rushing titanic from ahead still makes sense, because then you'll have 5-10 minutes of being rly strong with amazing waveclear to impact the game before enemies start scaling properly, but the longer the game goes, the worse carry items are gonna work for you, so at some point it's simply optimal to start building stuff like Randuin's (or redemp :p ). And don't go the Titanic route unless you're already ahead, because if not then you won't have that long window to carry with it before the other champs catch up and pass you scalingwise.
@MinhucVoPham
@MinhucVoPham 16 дней назад
This need to be pinned
@baelhok
@baelhok 16 дней назад
love you dude
@rorschac009oo8
@rorschac009oo8 16 дней назад
The legends recognize shending and petu anywhere. Also lord shending, the Google doc you made on matchups is outdated but I still treat it as my bible ❤
@guilhermealmeida-ic8nm
@guilhermealmeida-ic8nm 16 дней назад
Long time no see captain
@guilhermealmeida-ic8nm
@guilhermealmeida-ic8nm 16 дней назад
​@@rorschac009oo8 still on my browser 's favorites tab
@xPetu
@xPetu 15 дней назад
Finally Shending Help is getting the recoginition he deserves. His methodological approach and commitment to RedempShen for multiple years has lead to the pristine gameplay Dobby highlights in this video. I would say Shending's biggest strength is the ability to always play towards his team's win condition, which is very rare compared to most Challengers who focus on playing to their personal win condition. Some of this is a result of our champion, but Shending takes it to another level.
@user-uy1vd4ql4d
@user-uy1vd4ql4d 15 дней назад
😮
@LoLDobby
@LoLDobby 15 дней назад
Oh here comes another legend ! I'm fan of your mid shen ! I love how you show respect to Shending🥰
@zedtofugt
@zedtofugt 15 дней назад
wow
@wernong1480
@wernong1480 15 дней назад
@@LoLDobbywow seeing all these legends in your comments!
@DimeloVi
@DimeloVi 15 дней назад
Two legends, giving respect to each other 😌 River Shen!
@PlebCentre
@PlebCentre 17 дней назад
rip petu beaten by 4 lp.
@yaheki
@yaheki 17 дней назад
inc petu start taking heal exhaust with support build and go challenger in 3 week
@Unknown-gc7tn
@Unknown-gc7tn 17 дней назад
Yeah but 21 games less
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz__
@zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz__ 17 дней назад
4 LP but a massive WR diff
@TR1ckY_TV
@TR1ckY_TV 17 дней назад
More like Fck Petu 🤘
@JohnWhitneyTheFourth
@JohnWhitneyTheFourth 17 дней назад
4 LP lower on a lower wr and less games means that petu is playing higher MMR games so assuming that's a newer account it was based on winstreaking through low elo which can give easier wins
@dumbgreywulf
@dumbgreywulf 17 дней назад
He's not new. That is Shending Help
@Jon14141
@Jon14141 16 дней назад
I know this person Xpetu mentioned them
@river9910
@river9910 17 дней назад
Dobby : Don't try it on a whim Me : Straight to ranked we go
@Jon14141
@Jon14141 16 дней назад
😮
@Yoreinowashinoka14
@Yoreinowashinoka14 6 дней назад
You just like me fr
@SalmanAli-hn2kt
@SalmanAli-hn2kt 17 дней назад
This is ShendingHelp who along with Xpetu are the best shen players in the world
@Jon14141
@Jon14141 16 дней назад
Nice
@quieness
@quieness 17 дней назад
I funnily enough stumbled upon this account when looking for builds Shens do nowadays, after seeing Xpetu's fav build. Really cool the way this guy uses Shen and how quickly his spikes are due to the build Ps. Notice that when going mid vs a mage is better to go HOB since u'll obv not get much grasp value. Against meele mids u can ofc take Grasp as usual c:
@Jon14141
@Jon14141 16 дней назад
Indeed
@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 4 дня назад
xPetu: idc, I'm going Grasp anyway 😂. Edit: Nvm, Shending Help also goes Grasp into mages as seen at 4:14.
@LoLDobby
@LoLDobby 17 дней назад
〃Check out the main's builds and records www.deeplol.gg/summoner/euw/WhyHealOnShen-cmon
@dioxide39
@dioxide39 17 дней назад
Shending Help goated
@Jon14141
@Jon14141 16 дней назад
Indeed
@magamaster1212
@magamaster1212 17 дней назад
WHAT DID TWITCH SAY? @3:29
@user-qo6nk4xs4j
@user-qo6nk4xs4j 17 дней назад
I'm here! haha
@JumalaPlays
@JumalaPlays 16 дней назад
"nigga whats up?"
@bluespottedcube100
@bluespottedcube100 16 дней назад
M T F K hahaha 😂
@casualBob7
@casualBob7 15 дней назад
it's fine he has the N word pass
@2ndintelligentWorld
@2ndintelligentWorld День назад
lil he said "im here haha"
@giosieu5055
@giosieu5055 17 дней назад
DOUBLE ADAPTIVE KRAFT
@robertwhite9621
@robertwhite9621 15 дней назад
Excuse me, what did Twitch say at 3:30??
@janhob7250
@janhob7250 15 дней назад
Weekend is coming, a new lol dobby video - love it! The name of this shen is just hilarious 😂
@felixrey287
@felixrey287 16 дней назад
Glad to see videos of EUW players too, hope more come in the future
@LoveSunFlower4ever
@LoveSunFlower4ever 15 дней назад
Thank you so much, waiting video about Shen for so longggg !!!
@doublepauld7322
@doublepauld7322 17 дней назад
Petu is the best button >>
@user-sz9vt4sd7y
@user-sz9vt4sd7y 16 дней назад
If you ask petu im pretty sure he wouldn't call himself better
@DemonerLycan
@DemonerLycan 16 дней назад
He always does shotouts to Shending, pretty sure they are good friends.
@lollerscape
@lollerscape 16 дней назад
WHAT DID TWITCH SAY AT 3:30!
@nickrogers5215
@nickrogers5215 17 дней назад
least selfless Shen main
@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 4 дня назад
Great Shen players like Shending Help (this guy) and xPetu aren't 100% selfless. They actually think before ulting. If they think ulting will result in a deficit of resources, they might not use it.
@dishonored6116
@dishonored6116 16 дней назад
I came across a Shen player doing this in my D1/Master game. It was actually insane how much the shield was when he ult'd mid to late game. You could do it on an adc and they would survive a full burst combo.
@Jon14141
@Jon14141 16 дней назад
I can imagine
@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 4 дня назад
That's just basic Shen things though 🤔. Level 16 R is huge unless you're playing full AD. Full tank shield is huge and full AP shield would allow to survive a whole teamfight if it could stay even after Shen TPs 😂.
@IronKurone
@IronKurone 16 дней назад
Amazing stuff. I hope we will have a video on Shen mid technology as well.
@macieknowosad3059
@macieknowosad3059 16 дней назад
Very nice clips showing of redemption how it's not working xD
@derp_sherpa
@derp_sherpa 17 дней назад
Another toplane incident BigBrother
@Boreas_Moon
@Boreas_Moon 16 дней назад
How many games of a specific champ/player do you review for one video?
@peytonsmith1062
@peytonsmith1062 14 дней назад
You don't know how happy I am to see a Vayne top player lose to a Shen player.
@poetacomunista
@poetacomunista 16 дней назад
Shending Help and xPetu the goats
@knockondood2782
@knockondood2782 17 дней назад
no lie, saw the title and thought it read "why the best shen takes halal"
@mixbag8399
@mixbag8399 16 дней назад
Have you seen @segdal ‘s Lee sin top style?
@sleepysuzu
@sleepysuzu 17 дней назад
Hell yeah new loldobby
@LoLDobby
@LoLDobby 16 дней назад
@robertm2485
@robertm2485 16 дней назад
I love when my favorite character is on the big pictures.
@DogIQWoofWoof
@DogIQWoofWoof 16 дней назад
0:26 but how good did he play that one wow
@Green-Bean1
@Green-Bean1 11 дней назад
the level of gameplay in this video is insane 7:34 great example
@Stabbyhead
@Stabbyhead 16 дней назад
If we're gonna rely on heals and shields, Shouldn't we use Revitalize instead of Overgrowth to maximize its heal/shield value?
@botondnyitrai3128
@botondnyitrai3128 17 дней назад
When I played shen I used to bring heal too. It just felt right, considering my main objective is to assist my teammates
@leonidasbraga6074
@leonidasbraga6074 12 дней назад
Seeing this guy playing i wish so much that shen had the same feature as the mobile LoL, where he can target his allies with W and the sword go straight to them, making him a damn good sup
@Fiercehowler
@Fiercehowler 16 дней назад
why bamii's cinder though when you don't build sunfire of of it ?
@Victor-ey2xj
@Victor-ey2xj 16 дней назад
It might be a good idea to try and contact the players for example by sending them a friend request, then you might be able to get some of their input for the video
@McconneIIRet
@McconneIIRet 17 дней назад
Shen.
@bigsnup9238
@bigsnup9238 16 дней назад
How do you find replays?
@EdenXXI
@EdenXXI 10 дней назад
Please do one about a crazy support main.
@oscarordonezrodriguez5782
@oscarordonezrodriguez5782 17 дней назад
Hail petu
@Aman-wn6gf
@Aman-wn6gf 17 дней назад
Blue yuumi fr
@riccardocarlini1746
@riccardocarlini1746 16 дней назад
Glorified support champ
@adeltalon8099
@adeltalon8099 17 дней назад
great
@lucaschebance3135
@lucaschebance3135 17 дней назад
I was a main a main shen in diamond but abandoned it for playing adc and i fall in gold elo... With this clip i will play shen again
@micaillefuentes1406
@micaillefuentes1406 16 дней назад
bro what did Twitch said????
@nicloyola7109
@nicloyola7109 17 дней назад
ik petu smilin rn
@mrbuster3106
@mrbuster3106 16 дней назад
His strat is to ult - redemption - locket - heal - and knight's vow the adc.. So much for climbing up from anywhere below emerald...
@converser
@converser 16 дней назад
Wouldn't this work with Shen support?
@EduKiljaden2
@EduKiljaden2 3 дня назад
oh this is the video why i found a top shen with this build....
@Makedona96
@Makedona96 17 дней назад
You seem to have misspelled xPetu there :D
@highnoon2844
@highnoon2844 16 дней назад
Doesn't dobby only do KR server videos? Am I missing something?
@Jon14141
@Jon14141 16 дней назад
Good video nice
@DarthSkywalkerKenobi
@DarthSkywalkerKenobi 18 часов назад
FPS 226, is that even needed or is it capped to 60?
@luqmanhakim5291
@luqmanhakim5291 17 дней назад
So this tech on babus stream and he was completely shocked.
@Pankreastitis
@Pankreastitis 16 дней назад
2:30 That minion Hard carry that kill
@haruwa1566
@haruwa1566 16 дней назад
I swear Shen mains are like immovable statues in League community.
@yvan5892
@yvan5892 16 дней назад
no joke i almost forgot shen existed
@bragiodinsen4604
@bragiodinsen4604 15 дней назад
3:31 cmonBruh
@zPrimerib
@zPrimerib 16 дней назад
"protects the president"... secs before leaving jhin lol
@ashleymadness15
@ashleymadness15 16 дней назад
As a Shen main, I hate that I can't abuse this on lower ranks as teammates will continue to run away when you're ulting them.. and so I build a not selfless Shen every damn time
@user-sz9vt4sd7y
@user-sz9vt4sd7y 16 дней назад
Shending Help the goat
@hell_flames5675
@hell_flames5675 15 дней назад
3:30 What did just twich say? O_O
@nicoloferone3606
@nicoloferone3606 17 дней назад
I don't see Dorian's blade Not entertained
@rurza1849
@rurza1849 17 дней назад
So this is the same style as janna top some time ago
@Brin552
@Brin552 16 дней назад
3:31 TWITCH CALM DOWN
@louisrobitaille5810
@louisrobitaille5810 4 дня назад
0:19 I just noticed that 880LP in EUW is GM but 792LP in NA is Challenger 💀.
@artieschmidt3039
@artieschmidt3039 14 дней назад
7:31 the pantheon is Spear Shot !! :) (look kill anouncement)
@Tryingmybestsince1999
@Tryingmybestsince1999 14 дней назад
Counters: anything that can get a tower in the 20 secs your out of your lane: Trundle, Yorick, Fiora, Garen, Trynda...
@eczplosiongg6775
@eczplosiongg6775 16 дней назад
Im surprised Xpetu is also consistently high rank on shen. Most ytbers spend more time on videos than grinding but he's serious!
@AbyssPriestess
@AbyssPriestess День назад
3:30 TWITCH!?
@jrdeans23
@jrdeans23 16 дней назад
shen gaming
@cimolbalado
@cimolbalado 16 дней назад
This guy: beats xPetu by 4 LP xPetu: 3:31
@yusuffahdhiamahendrastama1050
@yusuffahdhiamahendrastama1050 16 дней назад
BROOOO 💀💀💀
@khoamama88
@khoamama88 15 дней назад
Probably a set up queue with his mates till Challenger. You won’t ever climb solo playing support tank for some random SoloQ ADC. At challenger, teammates get more reliable.
@ikeabird4411
@ikeabird4411 16 дней назад
What the twitch say? 😳3:28
@riftdelash3937
@riftdelash3937 14 дней назад
anyone runnin garen rn? interestign to see some high elo try to make hi mwork. good vid btw
@jetalininer1996
@jetalininer1996 16 дней назад
He is petu's second secret account
@BisuTenshi
@BisuTenshi 16 дней назад
may work in korea/china where people have hands
@antoalvarez-mirandamartine4672
@antoalvarez-mirandamartine4672 16 дней назад
Pls dobby kekseres euw katarina 80% wr in 600 lps, and yedaoshen talon
@aryzzel5879
@aryzzel5879 12 дней назад
Suggestion: 최현우 #KR1 Master ap Sejuani OTP
@LoLDobby
@LoLDobby 8 дней назад
Thank you !
@alvinluk9724
@alvinluk9724 17 дней назад
Next video: Why riven shen
@jaotrx7163
@jaotrx7163 16 дней назад
Well Peru wasn’t joking he is actually good on shen.
@alexandruholban6731
@alexandruholban6731 14 дней назад
when are u going to make a video about the talon otp that dominates the korean server with 71% win rate tiii#iiii(I don t know he s real name)
@daleryanaldover6545
@daleryanaldover6545 16 дней назад
Heal to dodge Q3, but Q flash auto... Try finger, but whole 😏
@marianoporta3257
@marianoporta3257 10 дней назад
Crazy how Fiora absolutely destroys shen
@randomvideoboy1
@randomvideoboy1 16 дней назад
If he just kept on attacking Vayne instead of CSing or trying to space her, he would've won that fight easily. Genius my ass.
@nguyenphuocthanh8056
@nguyenphuocthanh8056 16 дней назад
Meh, imagine what he can do with Blade instead. Shen Dorans Blade Diff? Double Adaptive Power, Stack Grasp, Shield Bash, Cheap Shot. BOOM. 1 auto attack.
@Rafael-xb3fn
@Rafael-xb3fn 15 дней назад
3:00 he's basically a supp top and that's it. Not my type of gameplay.
@pyke4life859
@pyke4life859 13 дней назад
this only works when your adc is challenger and not a low elo feeder
@mikedanielsapon5865
@mikedanielsapon5865 16 дней назад
Nah, I'd look really stupid doing this in my elo. Although it's a cool mechanics, just not on my games lol.
@Patrick-cc3ub
@Patrick-cc3ub 17 дней назад
redempshen
@lxrd9
@lxrd9 12 дней назад
Never ask what twitch said at 3:30
@tigerli2262
@tigerli2262 17 дней назад
his name is 'whyShentakesheal' as well 😂
@tahahussain3490
@tahahussain3490 16 дней назад
why not play support shen at that point
@Kimmarii
@Kimmarii 15 дней назад
외국채널이 따로 있었구만
@pravitfranklin
@pravitfranklin 16 дней назад
euw chall lobby is a nightmare , everyone starts feedmachine and never stop. Usually 50+- kills in a every single game. Garbage region with clown playstyle. So yep this strategy can be good
@nguyenhuuhiep1505
@nguyenhuuhiep1505 17 дней назад
DORAN BLADE DIFF I CAN HEAR IT!!!!!!
@x_venom6063
@x_venom6063 17 дней назад
DORANS BLADE
@Lrdm19
@Lrdm19 17 дней назад
You got a call from 2020, they want his video back. Shendinghelp, he is a main shen top with heal and support items, nothing new.
@TheSaladin777
@TheSaladin777 16 дней назад
I’m still not playing shen lol
@soul2310
@soul2310 16 дней назад
must be nice to have a team with fingers and a working brain...
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