In this video I take an in-depth look at how the Saints made just 1 Super Bowl appearance in 15 seasons with future 1st ballot HOF QB Drew Brees at QB. I had fun making this video, so I hope you enjoy it. MERCH: teespring.com/...
I still can't get over that stat about Brady having a better winning percent in the playoffs when throwing three INT's than Rodgers' winning percent when throwing three TD's.
@@angelmendez9365 He ran for a touchdown, and do you remember that game saving tackle that Tom Brady once made to help his team to the super bowl? yeah... That's literally what Aaron Rodgers did in that game and no one talks about it. Like I guess we only care about an amazing feat if the decorated player does it. The Bears defense that year was easily among the best in the league, and he also had a combined 283 yards. I'm willing to admit that TD:INT ratio isn't the only important stat so I hope you don't think it is (and you won't hear me purely talking about Rodgers' 2020 48:5 TD/INT ratio. Instead I prefer to use stats that compliment each other so that it gives you a more all around look at how impressive what he did was (he didn't just have a 48-5 TD/INT ration, he also had one of the highest completion percentages in history and he isn't the check and dunk (or rather dink and dunk) quarterback that Drew Brees is. For instance, Rodgers in 2020 in the red-zone had a QBR of 99.2. This is impressive because QBR is a rating on a scale of 0 ( being atrocious) to 100 (being literal perfection). What makes it even more impressive is that it wasn't just in one game, as this can cause stats like passer rating or QBR to be an anomaly due to not being a large enough of a sample-size, but a full 16 game season so that there were many opportunities to screw that near perfect QBR up). Next time, do some research because I could show you stats like how Tom Brady has a higher winning percent in playoff games where he throws 3 INT'S than Aaron Rodgers' winning percentage in playoff games where he throws 3TD's. I've debated idiots who thought winning was 60% on the QB and 40% on the rest of the team (at least 30 other players), and I'd prefer not to confuse another neophyte brain with hard data driven analysis, so save me some time and buzz off.
@@angelmendez9365 You also ignore that his average QBR in conference championships is about 62.7. Well above average, and that should be more than enough to win games, but his defense allows a QBR of over 80 (which has company with only some of the best single season QBR's to have been recorded, and that's the average. The highest QBR of that group is 95.6 and it came from Colin Kaepernick (in laymen's terms: one of the worst quarterbacks to have ever been in a Super bowl was allowed to post a nearly perfect stat by one of the Green Bay defenses Rodgers had to overcome). You also seem to forget that that one touchdown Rodgers scored in that NFC Championship game LITERALLY WAS THE DIFFERENCE IN THE GAME. He made multiple game winning plays in that game and you criticize him for it like some of the best players of all time have never won games where they played like shit (despite the fact that Brady has a higher winning percent in the playoffs when throwing 3 INT's than Rodgers' winning percent in the playoffs when throwing 3 TD's). Very scientific of you. You so smort.
Because Brady will throw a bad INT but then as bad as it was, he plays great and carries the rest of the game. He'll make a bonehead throw but then still is great enough to win the game.
@@xmontovanillix here’s the problem with Rodgers even attempting to make come backs. The team around him plays horribly like how in 2016 there were TWO fumbles from HB’s in the red zone, and his defense gave up 44 points. Brady will put up 3 INT’s, 2 TD’s and win, while Rodgers puts up 4TD’s, 1 INT and losses. You won’t find a game where Rodgers played as badly as Brady did in the 2006 divisional round against the Chargers and still win the closes thing to that 3INT, 2 TD performance that won was his 2010 NFCCG and he’s played much better than that in NFCCG’s so don’t pretend that just because they won that it was his best NFCCG performance. There are numerous occasions where Rodgers led a clutch drive in the playoffs and the defense died on him. Then in games where his defense shows up a lot of his offense doesn’t like in this past NFCCG like how Equanimeous S.T Brown was assigned to run a pick route and failed (how? It’s the simplest route possible), or Aaron Jones giving Brady the ball at the 7 yard line, or Mike Pettine’s 20 brain cells. To make a come back you need a team that plays well, or an opposing team that completely collapses (like the Falcons in 2016, or the Packers in 2014).
I’ll never forgive the NFL for allowing that joke of a no-call that robbed the Saints of a Super Bowl appearance that would have been exponentially more exciting than the 3 point slog fest from the Rams
Yeah imagine if that happened and Dee Ford didn’t jump offsides in the AFC championship game. We could have had a chiefs vs saints super bowl instead of the worst super bowl of all time.
@Alejandro Anaya especially in the past 3-4 seasons you could make the argument the saints had the best roster in the nfl with a top 5 head coach/qb and they didn’t even make it to an nfc championship.......
I went over this in greater length in my comment. But of course that shit "DOES NOT happen to Tom Brady. Belichek is pretty strict on not paying star players so much, precisely so there will be more money under the salery cap for everything else, like the O-line and defense.
Lifelong Saints fan, and everything you said is FACT. Brees used to have a CANNON of an arm and, in my eyes, was the QB to beat for the longest time. Unfortunately, our defenses just could not finish games for us. Between Beast Quake, the SF collapse, Minneapolis Miracle, etc etc we could just never quite find a way to get back into games. It's been a sad 3 years trying to watch Brees get back, but unfortunately he wasn't the same player after multiple injuries.
If you look at history, every great quarterback needs a great defensive game or amazing plays from their skill positions to carry them through a rough game. Unfortunately for Drew the only time this happened was in 2009. Legit every other time he was let down by our defense or playmakers.
@@jakekunz5168 the craziest part was that defense wasn’t even Drew’s best. I would go as far to say that it wasn’t even top 3. They just made plays when they had to and that’s all you need to do when your eventual HOF QB is in his prime and is whipping the ball around.
@@jacklewis2491 i'm sure drew brees was actually the mastermind of bountygate, convincing his defensive coordinator and defense to do all that. he really can do it all!
It’s because his defense was garbage until the back end of his career. It’s also a shame that he’s also one of the unluckiest qbs I’ve seen. Two plays that prevented him from potential Super Bowls that were out of his control.
Minnesota Miracle Minnesota push off Rams No Call and in that same game, the INT that was thrown to MT was actually another no call (pass interference) because u can clearly see the defender grab MT before the ball gets there 🤦🏾♂️
@@BigRael92 I don’t agree with the push off we just choked but other than that we got screwed the other 2 years. Drew legit got punched in the face on the int against the rams.
@@jakekunz5168 It was a little bit of a push-off but I've seen worse not get called. But that entire ending in 2018 was just no-call after no-call to the point that I literally cannot understand how people don't all know the league is rigged at this point.
@@BaronVonBielski it was easily a push off, the things is, if PJ Williams isn’t looking back playing the ball just running behind him they won’t call it. He should’ve had his head around.
Brees Prime Was Wasted Because of The Saints Never Getting Him A Good Defence Then When They finally Give Him A Great Team Brees Was Out Of Prime And His Arm Fell Off A Ciff
People also forget that Brees nearly had a career ending injury in his throwing arm before he even played for the Saints. The fact that he was able to have the career he had after that happened is actually insane.
i mean, even the last few seasons, his short to mid range accuracy was still unrivaled. he did lack the deep ball that he had in his prime though the last few years.
@@thecensoredmuscle563 they were #15 total defense that year. We’ve only had 1 top 5 defense and it was #5 in 2019. 2009 we had the 7th best defense. Those are the only times brees ever had a top 10 defense.
You should mention the key reason he threw so many interceptions in losing seasons was our only chance to win was if he threaded every possible needle. I like some QBs, he isn’t afraid to risk an INT if his team desperately needs big plays. A lot of the time it paid off, sometimes it didn’t, but it was a risk he absolutely had to take in order for the Saints to keep up with the opposing offense.
these in depth breakdowns on Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, and Drew Brees have been great content! One on either Marino or Montana would be good as well!
I feel like Drew threw a lot more ints in his career because most the time he had to put the team on his back and try make something happen since defense was trash and prob had a couple tipped balls also they lost so many picks and that really hurt him so couldn’t give home any pro bowler WR until MT second year becoming one they went straight to playoffs and Minneapolis miracle happens smh
Yea he had to throw the ball a hell of alot in his prime too because the run game wasn't even average! Imagine if he had MT and Kamara/Ingram in his prime. Probably wouldn't even need the defense but it sucks
@@cameronwilliams6439 it didn’t bother him much since he put up all time great stats for a QB’s career. But there were a few head scratching picks he threw that went straight to a defender that I can only explain as him not being able to see them due to his height.
Luck. No seriously, think about all the playoff losses that they had a greater than 50/50 chance of winning, and some stupid thing happened. Most notably, the Minneapolis miracle ig, but think about it
@@dillpickle7358 Saints are in the SB minimum if they beat the 49ers that season. Idc what anyone says, Giants weren’t gonna beat the Saints in the dome. Hell the Giants lost by 20+ playing there earlier in the season.
Basically, no qb is perfect game to game no matter what fans and the media want you to remember. This is apparent when you show games where Drew struggled. The key is coming to together at the right time so that, even if the qb only plays mediocre, the team will play well overall and win. That did not happen much for Drew. More for some other guys. I always say the easiest way to win in the NFL regardless of qb performance is to protect the quarterback and sack the quarterback.
Couldn’t have said it better myself. Every QB is gonna have a bad game. They even have multiple bad ones in a row. The difference is the margin for error, however. For a guy like Brees or Rodgers, it’s slim. For a guy like Brady, as long as he shows up for 1 or 2 quarters, he can play like ass the rest of the game and still likely win.
Brady fans got to realize that to win Super Bowls you have to have ATLEAST above average defenses Drew Brees and Peyton Manning won super bowls with below average defenses Tom Brady never has
Right and its a team effort one player cannot carry a team for an example deshaun watson was carrying the texans and they still finished 4-12 heck even the previous dynastys it took a team effort not one player or just the offense
It’s kinda funny how in my opinion Brady’s best playoff run was 2018 when he lost in the super bowl that was the only year he really didn’t get some fluky shit to prod him up and had to deal with what every other great quarterback had to
Brees just didn't motivate his defenses to play better like Brady does. Brees didn't tell the referees to give his team favorable calls like Brady does. What a loser!
@@bobbybetwirlin8442 he also never had a defense that was even remotely as trash as most of Brees’ defenses were. He’s been bailed out 10000x more than Brees was.
*Ranking All Time Saints QBs* 1. Drew Brees [significantly wide gap bigger than Michael Strahans teeth] 2. Bobby Hebert 3. Archie Manning 4. Aaron Brooks
Aaron Brooks is easily the second best QB in Saints history. Archie is fourth just off of the last name. The Cajun Cannon wasn’t good, but got us to the playoffs.
You still see ppl rock Archie and Hebert throwbacks but I’ve never seen Aaron brooks throwback. He was good but people always roasted his ass lil Wayne dissed him on a song
Sean McVay's face when he realized he was going to lose the super bowl after a bullshit call sent him there was just the best thing ever to us Saints fans. Brees is still owed a ring
I'd argue that the Saints have had two 'dynasty' periods under Drew Brees, but they've been overlooked because despite being championship caliber in the regular season, they kept having the brass ring pulled away. In the same way that people often overlook the four years in a row under jim kelly that the bills lived in the SB as being a 'dynasty.' from 2009-2013, Saints were a force to be reckoned with, barely losing to the 49ers, getting bested by the Seahawks a couple of times in close games, and while yes they went 7-9 in 2012, the ONLY reason they weren't superbowl contenders that year, based on the roster they had and any fan who watched the games that year will tell you, was the coaching; Payton should never have been punished for that ridiculous bounty scandal, and Kromer and Vitt didn't have a snowballs chance of keeping the fire lit. And for the last 4 years, tell me there has been a single soul that would have been surprised to see the Saints in the SB? four years, four basically last second loses, Two straight robberies. and a lot of the defense collapsing in the playoffs, and not playing to even a quarter of their own regular season standards. The saints had to go through two rebuild periods because of the front offices inability to draft or acquire defensive pieces or an offensive line, and as a result Drew having to play catchup for most of those years, and having to throw under significant pressure, to recievers that were similarly underappreciated. These problems were seemingly fixed with the 2017 front office changes, and one can hope that maybe even in a future without Drew they can be successful. If you measure a 'dynasty' only by championships, than no. But if you measure it by long term (3+ years) and consistently dominant performances, I would say the Saints have done it twice,
2012 was so historically bad. I've seen Patriots fans complain about their 2011 defense which they made the Superbowl with. While I admit their defense was pretty awful, the 2012 Saints we're so horrendous finishing 7-9 is a God damn accomplishment. The Saints defense gave up over 7000 total yards of offense. The Saints scored 28.8 points per game while their defense gave up 28.4 points per game. This is with Brees having a 5000 yard passing season, 43 TDs and 19 interceptions. Given this is a per game average, it essentially points to the Saints basically not being able to make any ground no matter how many times they scored because their opponent would score almost instantly, with one total fluke game against Tampa Bay where the defense somehow held them scoreless. 4 of their losses were 1 score or less with another 2 being by 10 points or less. But 7000 yards of offense and 48 total touchdowns surrendered to their opponents. Almost no hall of fame QB has ever had a defense that bad, even that famed 2011 Pats D wasn't that bad. They gave up 6500 yards and 39 touchdowns and 21.4 points per game. Matt Ryan's defense gave up 25.4 points per game when he was an MVP.
This is absolutely NOT true. Dynasties are defined by winning and that includes championships. If you have seasons where you're not even making the playoffs, then you aren't a dynasty.
14:00 “He had almost zero margin for error because of his terrible defense” should always be remembered when thinking of legendary qbs with shitty defenses
@@itsthekid9815 make the playoffs to do what, Gen run off the field when your defense can’t stop a leak? The better a defense a QB has, the more margin for error he has. Brees had none for many years. Every QB has multiple games of 2-3 INTs, it’s an occupational hazard.
@@itsthekid9815if his defenses didn't force him to thread the needle and play hero ball on every drive he wouldn't have had so many. He was one of the most accurate passers ever.
For just bad luck in playoff losses, you could also look at his lone playoff game on the Chargers in 2004 too. Almost a 74% completion percentage on 42 attempts for 319 yards and 2 TDs to 1 interception. Pretty solid game from him, but they lost in OT because his kicker missed a 40 yard field goal that would’ve won it. They then lost on the ensuing Jets possession after they marched 60 yards downfield to kick a 28 yard field goal. I know it’s not pertinent to the video considering it’s talking about the Saints years with him, but it just adds to the amount of bad luck he’s had in the postseason.
My favorite player on my favorite team gets a deep breakdown. It hurts to see how many opportunities we had to get him at least ONE more trip to the bowl. Thank you Drew for the one for the city🙏🏿⚜️Legend
Brees should have had 3 wins. They should have beat the Rams and they would have beat the Pats and I say that as a Pats fan. Idk about beating KC but they would have made it and they wouldn't have ended up throwing the game at the end like the 9ers
Goat 🐐 Brady > Drew Brees Superbowl titles Brady 7✔️ (most ever player) Brees 1 Superbowl Mvps Brady 5✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 League Mvps Brady 3✔️ Brees 0 Total Mvps League and Superbowl Brady 8✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 First Team All Pro Selections Brady 3✔️ Brees 1 Touchdown passes regular season Brady 624✔️ (most all time) Brees 571 Interceptions Brady 203 Brees 243✔️ Playoff touchdown passes Brady 86✔️ (most all time) Brees 37 Combined touchdown passes regular season and playoffs Brady 710✔️ (most all time) Brees 607 Seasons throwing +50 touchdown passes Brady 1✔️ Brees 0 Pro Bowl Selections Brady 15✔️ (most all time) Brees 13 All Decade Team 2010s Brady Yes✔️ Brees No 2019 NFC championship Rams 26 Saints 23 Drew Brees at home gets ball first in and CHOKED and threw INTERCEPTION in overtime with a chance to lead a game winning drive and take his team to superbowl 2019 AFC championship Patriots 37 Chiefs 31 Tom Brady on the road gets balls first leads a game winning drive in the cold with 3 straight completions on 3rd and 10s to take his team to superbowl. 2021 NFC playoffs Buccaneers 30 Saints 20 Tom Brady put Drew Brees out playoffs Tom Brady more touchdown passes fewer interceptions, better td to int ratio, more superbowl rings, superbowl mvps, league mvps, total mvps, first team all pro selections, all decade team more +50 touchdown passing seasons more game winning drives in playoffs and better Quarterback then Drew Brees Greatest Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Peyton Manning 4. John Elway 5. Johnny Unitas Drew Brees a weak arm system dome Quarterback not top 5 best Quarterbacks I ever saw I have him bottom of top 10 2019 season Saints 5-0 wins without Drew Brees when Teddy Bridgewater started at Quarterback so thats a lie that he never had help oe good team around him
Coming from a Saints fan, this answer is simple. They could never keep talent around him and never had a defense until his last few years. I know about 3 or 4 seasons that the Saints should've won the superbowl but they just couldn't get it together in the post season
If you're gonna judge a quarterback by rings, you're arguing that Trent Dilfer and Brad Johnson are better than Philip Rivers and Dan Marino. Make that argument to someone who actually knows football, and see how quickly you get laughed at.
The thing about Rivers is that he had a great team in the 2000s. But played terrible in playoffs from 06-09, except in 08. Later got better in playoffs, but by then teams were not super bowl talent like they were from 06-09.
We can't Guage success by Tom Brady standards. What he did is INSANE. He played in a super bowl ever other year for 20 years. He won 7 out of 10 appearances. That's so much success its suspect. It's sketchy. And the Patriots were caught cheating 5 times during the run. That's just what we know about. 2 superbowls is still extremely impressive. You also have to take account Joe Montana got his 4 pree free agency era. He had the benefit of a much longer window for a nucleus. Teams today have on average a 3 year window of optimum performance between rebuilds. Anyways. If you don't see my point you don't know football.
Brees is the 🐐 & I'll explain why. - He's the most accurate QB in NFL history (Has 7 seasons with a 70% completion rate). - Holds more single-game, single-season, & career accoldes than any QB in NFL history. - He NEVER had a pro bowl/all pro WR until Thomas came along when Brees was just about out of his prime. (Peyton had Marvin Harrison, Reggie Wayne, Demaryous Thomas, & a prime Emmanuel Sanders, Brady had Moss for a few seasons & Welker, & Rodgers had Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb, Greg Jennings, & Davante Adams). - He's had to carry his defense more than any QB in NFL history. (In terms of PPG, he's had only 4 top 10 defenses in 20 seasons so only 24% of his wins came with a top 10 defense. Brady on the other hand has 85% of wins with a top 10 defense). - He also had A LOT of pass attempts in the seasons he threw for 5,000 yards which is one reason for the int total. - He is 2nd all time behind Peyton in game winning drives & would be 1st if his defense didn't just blow so many games. - He's came 2nd in the MVP voting 4 times & was blatantly robbed in 2009. I could go on but moral to the story is that football is a TEAM sport so comparing QB's based solely on rings & wins is just flawed. For example, Brady has thrown 21 td's & 17 int's in 14 conference championship games but is 10-4 in them because of his defense keeping him in the game. Brady could afford to make mistakes in the playoffs unlike Brees because of his defense which is why Brady ranks 16th all time in playoff QB rating while Brees ranks 8th. Only guys ahead of him are Rodgers & QB's like Mahomes who haven't played many playoff games. If you don't AT THE LEAST have Brees in your top 5 then you're just a casual plain n simple.
I got serious flashbacks to the 2nd Seahawks playoff game yelling at Colston to get out of bounds. Probably was still gonna be a losing situation but we'll never know bc he had to goof and throw the ball FORWARD
I blame Sean Payton just as much as the refs for 2018, they had already managed the clock poorly on that drive and mentally I always thought he let his team get so defeated from that call. Yes it was bad, but it was like they thought they already lost when they still had the lead, and then the ball in overtime...they could have and should have won that game anyway.
I’m not gonna lie, as a long time Saints fan, I’m kinda over Sean Payton. He gets propped up every year as some kind of mastermind (don’t get me wrong, he’s a solid coach) but in the 15 years he’s coached there with a first ballot hall of fame QB, we only have one Super Bowl to show for it, and a bunch of early playoff exits. The next few years I really feel like he’s gonna have to prove himself again...
@@mildsthatyac2097 I feel people don't talk about Brees enough tho. He's right up there with Tom Brady and Peyton Manning. Hell, he even beat Manning in the Superbowl and beat Brady multiple times
@@Notorious224 yeah because several key players, including Brees himself, were injured, playing injured, or were knocked out of the game. Even then it still took a fumble by Jared Cook halfway through the 3rd quarter to flip back momentum to the Bucs side. Instead of the Saints potentially going up by 2 scores. Even then, Brees is 5-3 against Brady all time. I want to say he’s the only QB with a winning record against Brady with a minimum of 5 games played.
@@jcoolguy1548 Lol but brees is overrated, 1 super bowl and more overrated then tom brady who has 7 super bowls. Dan Marino Joe Montana, Peyton Manning and hell even ben roethlisberger is in my opinion better than drew brees.
Maybe the spotlight should be put on Sean Payton/Mickey Loomis for not having won more than one Superbowl with Brees. After the 2006 draft, free agency - way more swings and misses. Not until they brought Ireland on did they get better in the draft (2017). But not to be outdone, Payton came roaring back reaching in the draft, negating Ireland. Then when things were turned around, Playoff Sean Payton returned, choked in the playoffs abandoning the run time and time again.
Stop zooming in on his birthmark! Holy shit! He’s one of the best quarterbacks this league has ever seen! Are you kidding me!? First ballot Hall Of Famer!!!
Goat 🐐 Brady > Drew Brees Superbowl titles Brady 7✔️ (most ever player) Brees 1 Superbowl Mvps Brady 5✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 League Mvps Brady 3✔️ Brees 0 Total Mvps League and Superbowl Brady 8✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 First Team All Pro Selections Brady 3✔️ Brees 1 Touchdown passes regular season Brady 624✔️ (most all time) Brees 571 Interceptions Brady 203 Brees 243✔️ Playoff touchdown passes Brady 86✔️ (most all time) Brees 37 Combined touchdown passes regular season and playoffs Brady 710✔️ (most all time) Brees 607 Seasons throwing +50 touchdown passes Brady 1✔️ Brees 0 Pro Bowl Selections Brady 15✔️ (most all time) Brees 13 All Decade Team 2010s Brady Yes✔️ Brees No 2019 NFC championship Rams 26 Saints 23 Drew Brees at home gets ball first in and CHOKED and threw INTERCEPTION in overtime with a chance to lead a game winning drive and take his team to superbowl 2019 AFC championship Patriots 37 Chiefs 31 Tom Brady on the road gets balls first leads a game winning drive in the cold with 3 straight completions on 3rd and 10s to take his team to superbowl. 2021 NFC playoffs Buccaneers 30 Saints 20 Tom Brady put Drew Brees out playoffs Tom Brady more touchdown passes fewer interceptions, better td to int ratio, more superbowl rings, superbowl mvps, league mvps, total mvps, first team all pro selections, all decade team more +50 touchdown passing seasons more game winning drives in playoffs and better Quarterback then Drew Brees Greatest Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Peyton Manning 4. John Elway 5. Johnny Unitas Drew Brees a weak arm system dome Quarterback not top 5 best Quarterbacks I ever saw I have him bottom of top 10 2019 season Saints 5-0 wins without Drew Brees when Teddy Bridgewater started at Quarterback so thats a lie that he never had help oe good team around him
Goat 🐐 Brady > Drew Brees Superbowl titles Brady 7✔️ (most ever player) Brees 1 Superbowl Mvps Brady 5✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 League Mvps Brady 3✔️ Brees 0 Total Mvps League and Superbowl Brady 8✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 First Team All Pro Selections Brady 3✔️ Brees 1 Touchdown passes regular season Brady 624✔️ (most all time) Brees 571 Interceptions Brady 203 Brees 243✔️ Playoff touchdown passes Brady 86✔️ (most all time) Brees 37 Combined touchdown passes regular season and playoffs Brady 710✔️ (most all time) Brees 607 Seasons throwing +50 touchdown passes Brady 1✔️ Brees 0 Pro Bowl Selections Brady 15✔️ (most all time) Brees 13 All Decade Team 2010s Brady Yes✔️ Brees No 2019 NFC championship Rams 26 Saints 23 Drew Brees at home gets ball first in and CHOKED and threw INTERCEPTION in overtime with a chance to lead a game winning drive and take his team to superbowl 2019 AFC championship Patriots 37 Chiefs 31 Tom Brady on the road gets balls first leads a game winning drive in the cold with 3 straight completions on 3rd and 10s to take his team to superbowl. 2021 NFC playoffs Buccaneers 30 Saints 20 Tom Brady put Drew Brees out playoffs Tom Brady more touchdown passes fewer interceptions, better td to int ratio, more superbowl rings, superbowl mvps, league mvps, total mvps, first team all pro selections, all decade team more +50 touchdown passing seasons more game winning drives in playoffs and better Quarterback then Drew Brees Greatest Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Peyton Manning 4. John Elway 5. Johnny Unitas Drew Brees a weak arm system dome Quarterback not top 5 best Quarterbacks I ever saw I have him bottom of top 10 2019 season Saints 5-0 wins without Drew Brees when Teddy Bridgewater started at Quarterback so thats a lie that he never had help oe good team around him Drew Brees a weak arm dome system Quarterback hes not that talented undersized and doesnt have a strong arm and not that mobile
All I know is that the best years of the Saints franchise were with Drew and Sean. They went from a long-time laughingstock to SB Champions and consistent playoff contenders for 15 years. I'll take that. The Saints had low ranking defenses back then with a superpowered offense led by Brees. He's HOF for a reason. Lebron James carried the Cavaliers and Drew carried the Saints.
First thing that comes to my mind why they never became a dynasty was because their defense would never improve from over the years, they've had a lackluster defense for most of Brees's tenure!
@@AnubisLabrada this is a dumb comment. They lost in 2017 from defense, and then 2018 they should of won but the refs and then injuries and age got the best of drew. Most qbs can’t play past 37
@@AnubisLabrada dude comes to this video, explaining the playoff losses and reasons for bad seasons in the own columns, and decides to comment “true to form, Brees choked in the playoffs.” I’m surprised you had enough brain cells to navigate a RU-vid comment section, much less actually being able to send a comment.
2006: Went as far as they could. 2010: Would have faced Chicago in the next round. Probably lose. 2011: Would have hosted the 2011 Giants in NFC Championship. I think they lose that because the Giants' defense was facing 2 great offenses in the Falcons and Packers before hand and shut them down, so the Saints are nothing new, and Eli Manning was red hot in his career best season. 2013: Went as far as they could. 2017: Drew Brees and Sean Payton are undefeated against Philadelphia in their playoff careers, but even if they beat Philly, they still lose the Super Bowl to the Pats thanks to Tom Brady balling out like he did against Philly. As an Eagles fan, thank you Case Keenum and Stefon Diggs for preventing this. 2018: Fuck this game and the NFL for allowing this product. No question the Saints should have won, but the AFC Championship will also badly officiated. If the Saints still face New England, I think they win this time since the Pats only scored 13 points. If they face Kansas City, I think they lose because Mahomes was a monster that year. Plus, Eric Berry and Justin Houston got robbed of potential Super Bowl rings, which would make their tenures as Chiefs even more memorable. 2019: Would face Green Bay in Lambeau. Brees has a career 2-2 record at Lambeau, but never beat Aaron Rodgers there. Saints lose that. 2020: Would face Green Bay in NFC Championship. Same outcome as the previous year.
I still believe it was pass interference, and that the Saints should’ve gone to the Super Bowl and that they would’ve absolutely won vs tom Brady’s patriots
It's very simple: Sean Payton is an overrated stat-compiler that can't manage a game clock or put together a defense and Brees constantly had to bail him out every single game. As a Packers fan, I can safely say that NEVER works.
I bet on the Rams in the game against the Saints, and even I felt bad over that missed pass interference call against the Rams. That was probably one of, if not THE worst missed calls in NFL playoff history…
Still can’t believe we didn’t go to the Super Bowl in 2018 I really believe we were the better team and should have been there and won it drew should have had at least 4 Superbowls
Guys like Drew Brees and now were seeing Rodgers getting screwed by garbage defenses. Brady has to never deal with that. They both get called chokers. They have to literally play perfect one error and they lose cuz their defense is garbage. If that's not enough Brady threw 3 ints against the Packers in the conference championship and won.
@Adam Castagnetti facts he just said Rodger defense never bails him out to help him win but then mentions the game where the packers defense gave him 3 picks to help him win and he chocked
@@artism1699 Brady lead his team to the super bowl on 2011 and his defense had 31 worst yards per game average. Why couldn’t drew lead his team to the super bowl more then once ?
@@bobbybetwirlin8442 That was also the postseason Billy Cundiff shanked a FG that would've sent the FG to overtime. In addition, the Pats defense that year was 3rd in terms of turnovers and #2 in average starting field position. It's a team sport, so while I could say Brady is one of the best QBs of all time, it's nearly impossible to compare QBs as which one is the GOAT as comparing across eras (especially as the league is more pass-friendly than ever) is very difficult.
Literally the most overlooked thing holding back the Saints, is injuries. We are the most injury prone team in history. And it’s horrible. Reggie’s career getting cut short, Marques Colston, Brees getting injured over and over. That alone is something that absolutely shattered our “dynasty”
If the Saints had a better defense in 2011 they would have killed the Giants at the Superdome in the NFC championship and beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. And if it wasn't for that missed PI call, and Brees' interception in the NFC championship game in 2018 the Saints would have beat the Patriots in the Super Bowl. They should have two more Lombardi trophies to go with the one they won in 2009. 2020 they would have lost to the Packers at Lambeau in the NFC championship, 2019 they would have lost to the Packers at Lambeau in the Divisional, 2017 they would have lost to the Eagles in Philly in the NFC championship.
That rams championship game was equally Sean Payton’s fault. Yes the refs missed a blatant call. But look at the situation. 1st down on the 12 yard line after the 2 minute warning tied 20-20. Rams have 2 timeouts left. And sean payton calls 3 consecutive passing plays, giving the ball back to the Rams with more than 1:30 minutes left. Yes the refs missed a call, but Sean Payton is the reason the game didn’t end on that drive
@Antonio Iniguez he also had Jimmy but that was in the middle of when the Saints had one of the worst defenses of all time, so that didn't do much. He's had really good offensive talent around him but his defenses were either trash or folded in big moments
What about the last 3 years where he did not do shit with the best team in football I love him but he is a choke artist god bless our super bowl that he brought but the guy fucked us the last 3 years we would have been better off with him retiring 3 years ago
@@Heyman6 They were hired at the right time, what have they won since the first couple years of them becoming head coaches? They are player-coaches who got carried by their QB, or in Mike Tomlins's case, at least half of Bill Cowher's team.
@@justinpurcell3717 yeah well we’ll with Payton this year with Winston.I disagree with what most of what you said but I’m not interested in arguing about it.Have a nice day friend
Definitely respect how you laid this out. It’s a shame Drew only had one super bowl appearance and NO MVP rewards. Still best quarterback of all time to me.
As a saints fan….. yes if brees had a a better defense hold up on a couple year he definitely would have had more success! But despite allll that! He carried this team and the city mostly to better! Hofer no matter what! WHODAT nation
So I'm new to this channel and I've watched this video, the same about Peyton, and 2 about Brady. Basically the conclusion is: If Peyton & Brees had Brady's defenses and luck they would have about 10 and 8 Super Bowls respectively.
If I had a nickel for every time Drew Brees’s dominant offense lead the Saints to a 13-3 record, only for them to miss out on a first round bye bc the 9ers and Packers were both better, I’d have 2 nickels, which isn’t a lot but it’s weird that it happened twice
Goat 🐐 Brady > Drew Brees Superbowl titles Brady 7✔️ (most ever player) Brees 1 Superbowl Mvps Brady 5✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 League Mvps Brady 3✔️ Brees 0 Total Mvps League and Superbowl Brady 8✔️ (most all time) Brees 1 First Team All Pro Selections Brady 3✔️ Brees 1 Touchdown passes regular season Brady 624✔️ (most all time) Brees 571 Interceptions Brady 203 Brees 243✔️ Playoff touchdown passes Brady 86✔️ (most all time) Brees 37 Combined touchdown passes regular season and playoffs Brady 710✔️ (most all time) Brees 607 Seasons throwing +50 touchdown passes Brady 1✔️ Brees 0 Pro Bowl Selections Brady 15✔️ (most all time) Brees 13 All Decade Team 2010s Brady Yes✔️ Brees No 2019 NFC championship Rams 26 Saints 23 Drew Brees at home gets ball first in and CHOKED and threw INTERCEPTION in overtime with a chance to lead a game winning drive and take his team to superbowl 2019 AFC championship Patriots 37 Chiefs 31 Tom Brady on the road gets balls first leads a game winning drive in the cold with 3 straight completions on 3rd and 10s to take his team to superbowl. 2021 NFC playoffs Buccaneers 30 Saints 20 Tom Brady put Drew Brees out playoffs Tom Brady more touchdown passes fewer interceptions, better td to int ratio, more superbowl rings, superbowl mvps, league mvps, total mvps, first team all pro selections, all decade team more +50 touchdown passing seasons more game winning drives in playoffs and better Quarterback then Drew Brees Greatest Quarterbacks all time 1. Tom Brady 2. Joe Montana 3. Peyton Manning 4. John Elway 5. Johnny Unitas Drew Brees a weak arm system dome Quarterback not top 5 best Quarterbacks I ever saw I have him bottom of top 10 2019 season Saints 5-0 wins without Drew Brees when Teddy Bridgewater started at Quarterback so thats a lie that he never had help oe good team around him
@@malone6457 There are always way too many factors that people overlook. But I promise you, if you apply all of these factors and intangibles into the equation, you would be very very surprised
The fact Brees had 2 13 win seasons without even a first round bye is truly awful luck. The Minneapolis miracle, the non pi call, in addition to his historic 2011 and MVP worthy 2009 & 2018 MVP campaigns that were outdone by a couple top 10 all time seasons from Mahomes and Rodgers. In a hypothetical world where Rodgers and Mahomes defer those MVP campaigns another season Brees has 2 MVP'S and one in 09 if he isn't snubbed by Manning. If there's one team that's capable of beating NY in 2011 it's NO in the Superdome and they're playing New England. Ditto 2018 & even 2017, although Philly was playing possessed.
