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Why the Sith's Version of the 'Chosen One' Prophecy was so Confusing 

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"But if the robes of the Sith'ari fit, I see no reason not to claim them." -Darth Plagueis, and also every other Sith Lord ever
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@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 3 года назад
Palpatine: "How the hell am I supposed to figure this prophecy out!? Screw it, I'll just recruit the Jedi's Chosen One and just say mission accomplished."
@zamen163
@zamen163 3 года назад
Lmao
@hidude9919
@hidude9919 3 года назад
Honestly the sithari prophacy sounds much more like bane than palpatine
@wolfmeadows
@wolfmeadows 3 года назад
@@hidude9919 I was thinking the same thing.
@PugilistCactus
@PugilistCactus 3 года назад
@@hidude9919 Its almost as if thats who made that prophecy...
@hidude9919
@hidude9919 3 года назад
@@PugilistCactus Naw the sithari propecy was already around when Bane was studying at the Sith Academy on Korriban
@Fleechin
@Fleechin 3 года назад
Last I was this early Palpatine and Plageuis hadn't yet pissed off the Force so much it literally made a kid to kill them
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
LOL. Well said.
@tgamerent5152
@tgamerent5152 3 года назад
Isn't now lore that they "created" anakin?
@Fleechin
@Fleechin 3 года назад
@@tgamerent5152 I think in the Plagueis Novel yeah
@Spartan41100
@Spartan41100 3 года назад
@@tgamerent5152 yeah so he went from the son of God basically to a science experiment
@ssukhdeepkaur1783
@ssukhdeepkaur1783 3 года назад
@@tgamerent5152 no in canon its confirmed that didn't happen
@Ikcatcher
@Ikcatcher 3 года назад
The Sith Prophecy is basically “ARE YOU THE BADDEST DUDE OUT OF EVERYONE??”
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
Are YOU the sharpest tool in the shed?
@leobezard5998
@leobezard5998 3 года назад
Sith Code: "CAN YOU ASSERT YOUR DOMINANCE!?" Sith disclaimer: not dating advice
@daniellaytonmusic9865
@daniellaytonmusic9865 3 года назад
@@geetslys Are YOU looking kinda dumb?
@haroldtheherald6637
@haroldtheherald6637 3 года назад
@@daniellaytonmusic9865 Are YOU looking kinda dumb?
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 года назад
You dare doubt his badness?!
@____________838
@____________838 3 года назад
Turns out, the Sith’ari was the friends we made along the way.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
😂😂😂😂👍🏽
@marcussanchez6005
@marcussanchez6005 3 года назад
With friends like these who needs enemies? 🤷‍♂️
@thalmoragent9344
@thalmoragent9344 2 года назад
Lmao, basically 😅 Bane may have been the most notable one, but still, they all had a part to play
@madisonsosa21
@madisonsosa21 2 года назад
Can I hate u lol? XD
@TheMelancholicWriter
@TheMelancholicWriter 2 года назад
Maybe he’s born with it. Maybe it’s Sith’ari!
@tako_kawaii1749
@tako_kawaii1749 3 года назад
Sith's chosen one : l hate snow! Jedi's chosen one : l hate sand!
@akumaking1
@akumaking1 3 года назад
Funnily enough, Malekith the Dark Elf says that in Total Warhammer 2.
@plzletmebefrank
@plzletmebefrank 3 года назад
They should've gotten together and made a hate group for annoying particulates.
@tako_kawaii1749
@tako_kawaii1749 3 года назад
@@plzletmebefrank yes
@madisonsosa21
@madisonsosa21 2 года назад
Sith hate the cold, Jedi hate the warmth. Seems I dislike the cold
@Barisdagame
@Barisdagame 2 года назад
So Darth bane hated snow or ...
@ledlebrgr5380
@ledlebrgr5380 3 года назад
It's funny, in a sense the Sith's Chosen One paved the way for the Jedi's Chosen One
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 года назад
Ironic.
@UGNAvalon
@UGNAvalon 3 года назад
^ Ironic. They could help other Force-users with their prophecies, but not their own....
@KanekiKen-mu4nu
@KanekiKen-mu4nu 3 года назад
@@UGNAvalon I knew someone would say that and I absolutely love it XD
@darthhatchet775
@darthhatchet775 3 года назад
@@UGNAvalon Nice 👍
@Grinnar
@Grinnar 3 года назад
Iconic.
@hunterkiller1440
@hunterkiller1440 3 года назад
I was always under the impression the Chosen One from the Sith is the final Sith Lord, after all these years of accumulated knowledge the stronger apprentice slays the weaker master, when every apprentice is unable to slain the one master, that is the true Sith Lord.
@muzankibutsuji622
@muzankibutsuji622 3 года назад
To be honest both of these comments are good theories within there own right
@tatersalad76
@tatersalad76 3 года назад
@Charles Bowers meanwhile Count Dooku just cried in the corner of irrelevance
@JRBDWD
@JRBDWD 3 года назад
@Charles Bowers Inability? More like unwilling. Sidious was so evil he wanted to create the rule of one. He,the sith lord for all eternity.
@Trathien-
@Trathien- 3 года назад
that would be palpatine
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 года назад
Admittedly, this theory would work if things ended at The Unifying Force (the final NJO novel). Unfortunately, Darth Caedus, some eldritch abominations, and the Legacy era showed up.
@spergicide97
@spergicide97 3 года назад
You know I'm starting to think the Sith just take whatever the Jedi are doing, change it just enough to sound sufficiently evil and then just call it a day.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 3 года назад
Well a lot of their Force related traditions stemmed from them since at one point they used to be one. But once they mixed the (Dark) Jedi beliefs with that of the violent Sith culture things got weird...
@killcharge4338
@killcharge4338 3 года назад
Actually it's the opposite right down to the lightsabers
@joshuaharewood1089
@joshuaharewood1089 3 года назад
@@killcharge4338 what do you mean? The jedi existed 20 thousand years before they met the sith and the sith didnt create light sabers they just improved them.
@killcharge4338
@killcharge4338 3 года назад
@@joshuaharewood1089 nah man the original lightsabers where made by the sith and where battery powered and the jedi took them
@joshuaharewood1089
@joshuaharewood1089 3 года назад
@@killcharge4338 no dude, read the tales of the jedi comics, in them the jedi had lightsabers before they met the sith. The sith only got lightsabers after meeting the jedi, the sith are the one's that removed the battery pack, they improved the lightsaber not invented it.
@tnntaronewsnetwork4514
@tnntaronewsnetwork4514 3 года назад
7:28 Mentions Darth Bane, shows Darth Malgus
@oakandthepack4887
@oakandthepack4887 3 года назад
no one else mentioning it so i thought that it was only me who noticed xD
@tardarsauce3355
@tardarsauce3355 3 года назад
@@oakandthepack4887 I am also geeky enough to have caught that
@kinesissado9636
@kinesissado9636 3 года назад
I thought I was going crazy lmfao. Glad to know I wasn’t
@renanrosot5697
@renanrosot5697 3 года назад
I was looking down the comments to mention that
@nicholasdancer9795
@nicholasdancer9795 3 года назад
@@renanrosot5697 same lol
@JudForest
@JudForest 3 года назад
“To say that the Force works in mysterious ways is to admit one’s ignorance, for any mystery can be solved through the application of knowledge and unrelenting effort.”
@amanzeihedioha
@amanzeihedioha 3 года назад
Wow...
@calthekonqueror312
@calthekonqueror312 3 года назад
Yeah I don't think a mortal being can understand the all-powerful energy force that controls the universe and literally they couldn't exist without even with "application of knowledge and unrelenting effort.” There are some things our minds just cannot grasp. "I know that I know nothing" -Socrates
@yrok244
@yrok244 3 года назад
philosophy major battle
@sambeck2510
@sambeck2510 3 года назад
@@calthekonqueror312 I disagree; one person alone couldn't understand but generations of study and research could eventually reveal the secrets. Whether one person could eventually centralize, though that might be the wrong word, that acquired knowledge in their lifetime is another question.
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
It is our duty to study and unlock the secrets of the galaxy!
@mateski5841
@mateski5841 3 года назад
I have to say i really like darth banes approach to the sith code, he achieves freedom through the force while the other sith lords shakle themselves because they are blinded by their ambitions
@mateski5841
@mateski5841 3 года назад
Also i really like how the jedi and sith both strive for the same but end up as being two side of the same coin. The sith see the world as a prison being held down by everyone else, but the force can give them the strength to overcome everyone else, where as the jedi see their own selves as a prison being held down by their emotions and attachments, the force gives them the tranquility to overcome themselves. Both sides see the force as a way to break free from mortal bonds, but their ways in doing so directly oppose each other
@guitartrav4299
@guitartrav4299 3 года назад
Well said 🤘🏻
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
He was also self aware of the dark sides manipulation and did not fear it, he used it
@mateski5841
@mateski5841 2 года назад
@Sky Brookes yeah no problem, go ahead ^^
@Salohcin2000
@Salohcin2000 2 года назад
Vitiate is
@marshalllatta2073
@marshalllatta2073 3 года назад
At last after all these years the sith finally have their revenge thanks to the chosen one
@mcshifter4138
@mcshifter4138 3 года назад
Palatine really flexed on our boy😓 Edit(our)
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
Palatine, Sith Lord of fine eating.
@zexalbrony4799
@zexalbrony4799 3 года назад
And there is no way the Chosen One will ever be redeemed and turn on the Sit-. Wait, whose that blond kid that bears a resemblance to the Chosen One coming this way. LOL.
@Drums_of_Liberation
@Drums_of_Liberation 2 года назад
@@zexalbrony4799 what blonde kid? All I see is something that smells like leathery burnt bacon
@peanutbuttersketches
@peanutbuttersketches 3 года назад
I mean, it definitely makes more sense than Disney trying to explain how Rey is the chosen one.
@stalin1701
@stalin1701 3 года назад
Dave Filoni & Jon Favreau to Disney: no no he’s got a point
@haroldtheherald6637
@haroldtheherald6637 3 года назад
Who's rey
@Spartan3D213
@Spartan3D213 3 года назад
@@haroldtheherald6637 rey shadow legends.
@cornbreadloverrr
@cornbreadloverrr 3 года назад
@@haroldtheherald6637 REYCON earbuds
@ShadowWizard123
@ShadowWizard123 3 года назад
Rey is not a chosen one. She is a literal God.
@c4productions5959
@c4productions5959 3 года назад
Last time I pulled up this early the Rakatans were still ruling the galaxy
@jamesleduke873
@jamesleduke873 3 года назад
Last time I was this early, the Celestials were still building Centerpoint Station.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 3 года назад
Last time I was this early the humans on Notron were vibing with the Taung...
@senatorluxbonteri6065
@senatorluxbonteri6065 3 года назад
Last time I was this early there was only a supermassive black hole and large gas clouds
@xoulmannn
@xoulmannn 3 года назад
Last time I was this early, George Lucas was just scripting the franchise that would be in 1976
@Duchess_Van_Hoof
@Duchess_Van_Hoof 2 года назад
I like the joke that every single Sith Lord in history is convinced that they are the Sith'ari. The hubris and the arrogance, and now I have an excuse to write a Sith who is convinced that she is the Sith'ari. On a more serious note, ever notice that the two prophecies don't contradict each other?
@jmcsquared18
@jmcsquared18 2 года назад
"On a more serious note, ever notice that the two prophecies don't contradict each other?" This is one reason why I think Anakin was both the Chosen One and the Sith’ari. It says in both prophesies that he will destroy the Sith, but also clearly be one. Kind of screams Darth Vader imo.
@elevatedmeance6807
@elevatedmeance6807 2 года назад
@Joshua Tucker there was a buniess dude who got the dark side and was possibly the cloest thing to a good sith, serech the sith that did no evil"
@hajimehinata5854
@hajimehinata5854 2 года назад
Darth Vectivus
@Christian-be6eg
@Christian-be6eg 2 года назад
@@jmcsquared18 Darth Bane was also a Sith that destroyed the Sith
@life_is_a_myth
@life_is_a_myth Год назад
​@@jmcsquared18 He didn't rebuild the Sith order from scratch though.
@Mincecroft
@Mincecroft 2 года назад
I always thought that Anakin was the Chosen one of the force, not necessarily the light or the dark. He helped destroy the Jedi and then, with the help of his son, destroyed the Sith which freed the force of all the old traditions and allowed Luke Skywalker to become the true instrument of the force.
@jordyjohn2275
@jordyjohn2275 2 года назад
Except Palpatine was just taking a timeout
@kennethwickey3661
@kennethwickey3661 2 года назад
@@jordyjohn2275 only if you accept episodes 7-9 as canon
@themonkeeman
@themonkeeman Год назад
@@kennethwickey3661 thank god I dont :)
@dominikberger412
@dominikberger412 Год назад
@@kennethwickey3661 even in Legends Sidious came back xD
@Jester_Jean
@Jester_Jean Год назад
@@dominikberger412 it's not his return necessarily that's bad, it's that he has basically empire 2.0 without any issue for him, some kinda omega star destroyers with the power of a deatn star each and his defeat by someone that just picked up a saber.
@crimsonfucker4167
@crimsonfucker4167 3 года назад
Darth Bane: You think you're a sith lord but you merely adopted the dark side. I was born in the dark side moulded by it.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
My exact thoughts
@johnwick535
@johnwick535 3 года назад
Ah a man of culture.
@darrelljackson8622
@darrelljackson8622 2 года назад
The light side didn't even occur to me until I was already a man
@crimsonfucker4167
@crimsonfucker4167 2 года назад
@@darrelljackson8622 And by the...it was nothing but blinding.
@aeternumcadens1777
@aeternumcadens1777 3 года назад
What if the "Sith'ari" and the jedi "chosen one" are the same prophecy, but after thousands of years of mistranslation and bias it became 2 prophecies? Each to reflect light and dark? I've read the darth bane trilogy and while I enjoyed the books greatly (read them all at least 3 times) I never thought of Bane as the Sith'ari
@BansheeKing22
@BansheeKing22 3 года назад
The way I interpret the prophecy is the same way legacy of kain did theirs when it came to the vampire/hylden champion. Both races essentially prophesied the same person(raziel) as their champion. So in regards to the sith and jedi prophecy, they essentially prophesied anakin not knowing his name obviously. Anakin did what both prophecies said the chosen one would do.
@Hiihtopipa
@Hiihtopipa 2 года назад
Yeah! I allways thought Bane was batman villain!
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375
@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 2 года назад
That does make sense as both talk about the destruction of the Sith. Perhaps the Chosen one was to like a wildfire. Burn away the old so new growth can happen. Burn away the Old Jedi Order and the Sith so a new Jedi Order can take route and sprout.
@DarkRaven4649
@DarkRaven4649 2 года назад
It isn't. It predates the Dark Jedi arrival on Korriban, harkening back to a Sith (the species, not the philosophy) King who drove off a Rakatan invasion nearly 3000 years before the Republic was founded and near enough to 20,000 years before the Dark Jedi fleeing their defeat in the first Schism became the Sith as we would recognize them. It might be a vision of the same *person*, but it's not a divergence of the same prophecy.
@aeternumcadens1777
@aeternumcadens1777 2 года назад
@@DarkRaven4649 I love this community. This shit is so fascinating
@deph5183
@deph5183 3 года назад
It would have been interesting to see how things would be different had Bane's essence transfer attempt succeeded in his fight with Zannah.
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 3 года назад
I just wish they had never answered one way or the other, keep us guessing. They could have spun so much good stuff out of it
@GoldHeart666
@GoldHeart666 3 года назад
But think if it as if it did but he was merely latched onto zanah and she would at her death through the power and knowledge bane feeds her she does the same thing to her apprentice and then is now part of her with her master tagging along all stacking in power lol
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 года назад
... It's unintentionally implied that he actually succeeded, up to the point that he basically resurrected fully as Darth Sidious himself.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Would have been so OP if bane had been passing down from sith to sith, but that’s not what he wanted, he didn’t need to live forever it was his legacy that mattered
@blackc1479
@blackc1479 3 года назад
@@AndreNitroX and thats why banes maybe not the most powerful sith ever, but personally i think one of the most important.
@C4lidas
@C4lidas 3 года назад
Geetsly: "Darth Bane" *Shows a photo of Darth Malgus*
@kesselruncomics8307
@kesselruncomics8307 3 года назад
EXACTLY!! I was like, “really bro...” He’s my favorite Sith. Malgus I mean 👏🏻
@jackster9775
@jackster9775 2 года назад
Ok so don’t quote me here, but I’m pretty sure the visuals are random in these.,
@C4lidas
@C4lidas 2 года назад
@@jackster9775 prolly
@AntiPlastic
@AntiPlastic 3 года назад
The chosen one, was to destroy both the sith and jedi, but they thought only one would be destroyed, as we saw with anakin.
@Blessed_V0id
@Blessed_V0id 2 года назад
And then Disney tried yo revive both dead orders miserably...
@deathknight1239
@deathknight1239 2 года назад
@@Blessed_V0id Tried and failed
@freshlybittenpillow77
@freshlybittenpillow77 2 года назад
Brings balance to the force.
@AlIguana
@AlIguana 2 года назад
@@freshlybittenpillow77 yeah, that always bugged me about the Jedi prophesy. They took "the one who would bring balance to the force" as being the one who would wipe the sith and dark side out for good. That isnt' balancing the force, it is un-balancing it. To bring balance to the force, you have to wipe out both the Jedi and the Sith, the dark and the light, so that the force becomes neutral again. That *could* have been Kylo Ren, he almost wiped out both orders... but chickened out at the last moment and saved the Jedi cos he had the feels lol
@Dragon66898
@Dragon66898 3 года назад
It’s my personal belief that the Sith Chosen One was also Anikin mostly because that would be funny.
@voteindependentforindepend7181
@voteindependentforindepend7181 2 года назад
It would make sense as he destroyed not only the jedi(bringing balance to the force) but his kamikaze attack on Palpatine essentially destroyed the last of the sith. His life would then go onto to inspire the rebirth of a sith like individual in kylo ren, full filling all major plot points in both prophecies.
@noripowell6385
@noripowell6385 2 года назад
Anikin the chosen. His title for both sides XD
@slimdankbeams8165
@slimdankbeams8165 2 года назад
Anakin never lead the sith though, he was always under Palpatine, that being said, the rest sounds likely for Anakin
@alwaysplotting2096
@alwaysplotting2096 2 года назад
I made a list of things that Anakin and Bane have in common. It's eerie how much they still have in common after removing incredible strength in the force and prophesized status.
@jackbrown3193
@jackbrown3193 2 года назад
@@slimdankbeams8165 the thing is that if you are looking at the sith as just the rule of 2 then yes. But darth vader comes over 900 years after darth bane. While the sith were never a massive group like the sith empire again they did slowly add some sith assassins (maul,ventress,etc) we also see the rise of the inquisitors. So while there are only two lords of the sith the organization is broader than that if only slightly. Also the prophecy never says rule the sith instead it says lead. If you look at the broader sith order it is hard to say vader was not a leader. It would be similar to saying the vice president is not a leader. While he may not be the highest authority this prophecy dose not explicitly state that the Sith'ari must be.
@sonnumber8733
@sonnumber8733 3 года назад
Bane may be the dark chosen one but I think Revan deserves an honorable mention for being so awesome
@sarodanadian6496
@sarodanadian6496 3 года назад
But Revan managed to return to the Light and become both Jedi and Sith therefore he was not the perfect embodiment of the dark side
@jakealter5504
@jakealter5504 3 года назад
@@sarodanadian6496 but he was respected by both sides and revan’s teachings helped inspire bane to create the rule of two
@ashique5942
@ashique5942 3 года назад
Revan was not the chosen one of the sith Or Jedi he was the embodiment of the force itself revan doesn't belong to darkness or light
@jiveequation1865
@jiveequation1865 3 года назад
@@ashique5942 idk if that’s true but I like that idea
@ashique5942
@ashique5942 3 года назад
@@jiveequation1865 do you ever played Kotor 1 it was clearly explained in the game
@warrencourtney4786
@warrencourtney4786 3 года назад
Imagine a ship is shot down by chance with two Sith lords aboard. Boop, the Sith go by by.
@philip8498
@philip8498 3 года назад
that would need to be two very pathetic sith tho
@luigimrlgaming9484
@luigimrlgaming9484 2 года назад
@@philip8498 I don’t know palpating could most likely be dispatched during the clone wars era by an Angry citizen with a sniper rifle And it’s obvious the glass ain’t strong, if your able to crash your body through it and break than shooting it should result in similar endings of palpating getting shot by a an activist
@philip8498
@philip8498 2 года назад
@@luigimrlgaming9484 if kylo ren could freeze a blaster bolt in mid air, palpatine could certainly redirect one slightly to either miss him or just injure him instead of killing him. I doubt he was ever in any physical danger except for his duell with mace.
@N8TheGreatG
@N8TheGreatG 2 года назад
@@philip8498 he was never in danger with Mace he planned for Mace to overcome him for anakin now he did have some danger with Yoda
@TheJamie119
@TheJamie119 2 года назад
@@N8TheGreatG mace did overpower palpatine
@Kojett
@Kojett 3 года назад
In my opinion Darth Bane does seem to fit the criteria for the chosen one of the Sith best. But I also think this prophecy is intended (not just by writing, but also in the Star Wars universe) to be easily applied on sithlords. The Sith are eager for power. Most of the Sith seeing themselves as a chosen one just fits the way they act and its benefits them. If you want to be someone who can be "the chosen one" you need to become quite powerful, what means many Sith craved even more for power. All of this can create powerful Lords who represent the force of the dark side. In some way it's like an horoscope, easy to be construed in many ways to appeal to as many people as possible.
@RandoGrunt
@RandoGrunt 2 года назад
Quite so actually, and that's what made the Rule of Two so darn resilient as Darth Bane exploited this notion to build upon generation of generation of Sith until one of them finally would get to the point of destroying the Jedi.
@rawr70101
@rawr70101 2 года назад
7:30 "Darth Bane, who established the rule of two..." That's a picture of Darth Malgus. Close... I guess? They're both bald.
@aviatinggamer9051
@aviatinggamer9051 Год назад
I’d argue that it was Vader. Perhaps this prophecy of a “chosen one” predates the separation of Jedi and sith from their origin species/civilization. The Jedi thought it would someone who destroyed the Sith. Vader did that. The Sith thought it would be someone who overthrew the republic and destroy the Jedi order. Vader was instrumental with the former and did the latter.
@tigraniskandaryan8641
@tigraniskandaryan8641 3 года назад
all of this makes perfect sense, in fact as soon I saw translation of the prophecy I was like - Bane as he is the only character I know that purposefully destroyed Sith Order of his time and recreated it, and its thanks to him that Uncle Shiv eventually became the Senate
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 3 года назад
What’s the Sith’s version? There will be a Darth who says “Hello there General Kenobi?” Because that would be way overpowered
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
Well Grievous wasn't a Darth.
@EdaugEthanbYT
@EdaugEthanbYT 3 года назад
@@geetslys true but he only said General Kenobi. He never said Hello there General Kenobi all at once
@sparemobius7430
@sparemobius7430 3 года назад
General Kenobi: Well hello there! The chosen sith: ... and goodbye general. *backstab*
@justbegoodlito
@justbegoodlito 2 года назад
I was always under the impression that Anakin was the chosen one for both the Jedi & and the sith Ari given that he fulfilled both prophecies
@rodbellfield3471
@rodbellfield3471 2 года назад
Nah he never led the Sith technically.
@cjhott7237
@cjhott7237 3 года назад
Geetsly: He didn’t have an unending long kill list, lead massive armies of sith, and wasn’t flashy. Me: Lord Vectivous, he’s looking at you.
@shawnwing-kovarik9762
@shawnwing-kovarik9762 3 года назад
A few of the Sith after Bane did break the Rule: Count Dooku had Ventress while he was still the apprentice to Sidius, Vader had Starkiller.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Technically they never achieved the title of sith
@shawnwing-kovarik9762
@shawnwing-kovarik9762 3 года назад
@@AndreNitroX But they were trained in the way of the sith, which matters?
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
@@shawnwing-kovarik9762 Yes, but they weren't taught the real sith stuff.
@shawnwing-kovarik9762
@shawnwing-kovarik9762 3 года назад
@@AndreNitroX oh, ok
@slavesforging5361
@slavesforging5361 3 года назад
also, we know from the books that neither Darth Plagieus nor Darth Sidious followed the Rule of Two. Plaguis wanted himself to be the last and immortal sith lord, with Sidious as his eternal apprentice and partner. Sidious in turn, wanted power for himself, and kept multiple poorly trained apprentices purely for the sake of helping him attain and maintain power. his biggest strength was his ability to manipulate people. I'm under the impression that Sidious didn't care about the Sith or their teachings per se, he just wanted power for himself.
@JeanLucCaptain
@JeanLucCaptain 3 года назад
One sith to rule them all, one sith to slay them, one sith to train them and in the darkness BIND THEM
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 3 года назад
You ever tried to spell akh-naz-gimbatul on a triple letter score....?
@andrewobenour6791
@andrewobenour6791 3 года назад
What if... Darth Sidious was literally every “Sith that came before me” in that every individual in the Banite line of Sith was actually Bane’s soul being passed from Master to Apprentice?
@philip8498
@philip8498 3 года назад
arent there deaths of sith masters both in cannon and legends where it would have been impossible for the ritual of essence transfer to take place?
@mwoodhouse2778
@mwoodhouse2778 2 года назад
I thought about this aswell a sneaky way to cheat death force essance transfer because they always say "strike me down" or "you have to kill me to take the title" a intresting way to survive jumping into another s body. As in TROS darth sidious literally says to rey strike me down and my spirit will pass into you aka force essance transfer is cannon
@DraculaCronqvist
@DraculaCronqvist 2 года назад
There can be made many reasonable assumptions as to who the Sith'ari is/was. Logic dictates that the final Sith would be the one. The one who destroys all the Sith and then, forever, rules alone, because he has no more need of a successor, nor a need for others to share in with his supreme power. In this regard, no Sith alive or dead fits this promised description. Revan redefined the core ideas of the Sith about what mastership and apprenticeship means for a Sith, but failed to build anything lasting. Vitiate built a long-lasting empire, but ultimately failed when he died like all before him. Bane restructured the Sith and destroyed what came before him, but he died and was not the most powerful. Palpatine brought about a victory 1000 years in the making but a simple betrayal that could have been foreseen destroyed him. All of these would be, at first glance, valid choices for the Sith'ari, but their legacy is, ultimately, one of failure. None of them had perfect power, perfect destiny. None of them build ever-lasting empires, were immortal or unbeatable. They all accomplished grand things, yes... But so far, the Sith'ari has yet to appear, and may never appear.
@codylockhart9977
@codylockhart9977 3 года назад
This is why I love legends content so much
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 3 года назад
Too bad only like 20% fandom knows lore like this. And it doesn't help that it's designated as Non-Canon, thus warding off incoming fans that know what Canon and Non-Canon information means. I hate that the universe I spent years learning so much about has no validity or purpose anymore. I hate Disney and (current) Lucasfilm equally; fuck Canon...
@eds1942
@eds1942 3 года назад
@@blackshogun272 Years and hard earned cash.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
It’s the best star wars
@Kjf365
@Kjf365 3 года назад
@@blackshogun272 Don't act like all of it was good. It wasn't. In fact, I'd say the majority of it wasn't good. But respect the labels. The word "legend" implies a story that's shrouded in mystery. Something that could be true, it could not be true also. It gives room for them to bring back or change things from the old canon as they see fit. If you were to include the stuff in legends, star wars would be a bloated franchise with no room to add or improve. The "legends" approach is the most respectful way to go about it. Think about that aspect a bit.
@blackshogun272
@blackshogun272 3 года назад
@@Kjf365 that's a cap. Legends still had a shit ton of areas to further explore or expand upon. Having it as a valid alternate Canon wouldn't have hurt anyone...
@DefecTec
@DefecTec 3 года назад
Before I watch the video: The Sithari was the Sith’s Chosen One and I’m pretty sure it was Darth Bane who became the Sithari
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Anybody who read the bane trilogy knows the correct answer
@yamnaya88
@yamnaya88 3 года назад
Do y'all think there can be a second Sith'ari?
@erikurizita6702
@erikurizita6702 3 года назад
There is more than one. Bane was properly the second, and Krayt was the last. Adas was no doubt the original. Jedi have more than one chosen one as well. Revan, Anakin, some say Luke, etc, etc.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
@@erikurizita6702 interesting theory
@erikurizita6702
@erikurizita6702 3 года назад
@@AndreNitroX It’s not just a Theory…. ITS A SITH THEORY
@hahaxdd313
@hahaxdd313 3 года назад
i love how you put Dread Master Bestia up there at 8:20 - the Dread Master's were truly terrifying beings and I always wonder how much more fleshed out Bioware could of made them.
@therocco3492
@therocco3492 3 года назад
"darth bane" as he shows a picture of malgus lol
@solikeletsbenerdy
@solikeletsbenerdy 3 года назад
Geet always makes me day better 🖤
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
AWW, THANK YOU!
@michaelandreipalon359
@michaelandreipalon359 3 года назад
Made more so with the sister channels The Braved and The Front.
@28512ful
@28512ful 3 года назад
"darth bane" *shows malgus*
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Yeah that was dissapointing
@yung_andre
@yung_andre 3 года назад
Darth bane created the rule of two Geetslys: shows malgus
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
It’s Treason then
@sosmooth13
@sosmooth13 Год назад
Ngl, the fact that Bane’s adoration and respect for the dark side of the force is what drove him makes him one of the coolest with lords.
@cadenhero
@cadenhero Год назад
Every sith ever: "maybe I'm him"
@urticantspoon9960
@urticantspoon9960 2 года назад
When you talk about darth Bane you pulled up an image of darth Malgus, from SWTOR. There is a canonical image of darth Bane as a force ghost/spirit, from the clone wars series, it was one of the final episodes and detailed Yoda learning how to keep his consciousness after death.
@arbington
@arbington 3 года назад
I always interpreted it as two different prophecies from two different orders about the same person, the Chosen One and the Sith’ari are the same person and the Jedi and Sith predicted the same events, they just saw it all through different tinted glasses and their interpretations were wildly different. So the answer to both prophecies is Anakin Skywalker/Darth Vader. More interesting/amusing to me are the internal conflicts over the Sith’ari prophecy within the Sith orders, and how just about every new faction of Sith would disavow the prior incarnations as limp-wristed poseurs while they were the REAL Sith and their leader was of course the Sith’ari. Many Sith claimed the title over the years, because they all have such egos they couldn’t even conceive of anybody coming after them that might be better, so surely they must be the pinnacle of Sith achievement themselves. lol
@two4328
@two4328 2 года назад
I think this is a very interesting and symbolic interpretation, though it has been confirmed that it is Darth Bane. But it is still a cool interpretation.
@arbington
@arbington 2 года назад
And yet a thousand years later Sidious still thought he was the one. If even the Sith in-universe still didn’t think the matter was settled, just how “confirmed” is it really?
@two4328
@two4328 2 года назад
@@arbington I mean he says in the video that it is truly confirmed by a real life source, not just in-universe.
@arbington
@arbington 2 года назад
According to the Complete Star Wars Encyclopedia from 2008 yes. But it was the 2012 Book of Sith that showed later Sith claiming the title. I’d give more credence to the Book of Sith, even if it was meant as sort of a running joke by the author to show the hubris of the in-universe “authors.” Book of Sith is meant to be a journal from in-universe, the Encyclopedia is just a reference book. Aside from the fact that Book of Sith is more recent, reference books are often retconned or just plain inaccurate, and could more accurately be said to reflect what is canon and true at the time of their publication not so much what is canon and true forever, if other sources come along and contradict them. This is one of those situations as I see it, and the video is inaccurate and operating on old intel.
@tardarsauce3355
@tardarsauce3355 3 года назад
6:31 is such an awesome picture
@brysonramsey_36
@brysonramsey_36 2 года назад
Never thought I would hear that og battle front sound before your intro😂
@ijustmakegamesnow906
@ijustmakegamesnow906 3 года назад
The last time I was this early Obi Wan had not yet taken the High Ground.
@Elrohof
@Elrohof 2 года назад
One huge fault in Darth Bane's philosophy of the Rule of Two is that it still doesn't fully prevent the lesser apprentice from murdering the greater master using external means such as poisoning, hiring contracted killers and private armies. Darth Sidious resorted to getting his master drunk and killing him in his sleep, for example. Blatantly ignoring an honorable challenge to fight to the death, where you'd fully test your powers against your opponent, may the strongest Sith survive and reign as Master. It's likely that Sidious trajectory of power is still lesser than that his master would've had, had he not been killed in his sleep. The rule of two also puts huge risks of extermination of the Sith order, as also shown when Sidious had not only murdered his master, but sent his apprentice off effectively to his death, leaving Sidious as the only Sith for a while. This same risk he took again later, when ordering the killing of Count Dooku. Had his plan failed at any time or had he accidentally died due to any unforeseen health complications or a stray assassination attempt, the Sith legacy would've stopped dead in its tracks, partly fault of Darth Bane.
@gameislife3081
@gameislife3081 2 года назад
The force doesn’t allow for that
@Elrohof
@Elrohof 2 года назад
@@gameislife3081 The force definitely allows for that.
@rose_city-86o51
@rose_city-86o51 2 года назад
Loved that mid evil type photo, lol 😂 had to take a screenshot.
@Mad_Alyx
@Mad_Alyx 3 года назад
Sith’ari sounds like a bad Christmas party
@amanzeihedioha
@amanzeihedioha 3 года назад
As a buff and beautiful magical captain always says "Supress your limits". Well done, Bane.🙇🏿‍♂️
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Didn’t know that
@tryxtheanimehata7622
@tryxtheanimehata7622 3 года назад
Ah I see you understand captain yami as well
@chrisv9114
@chrisv9114 3 года назад
I'm sure it's Rey Skywalker, she's the greatest Jedi, the greatest Sith, the greatest pilot. She doesn't even need training to beat up Luke Skywalker or out fly Han Solo in his own ship. Who else can out Sith a Sith but Rey Skywalker.
@ashloveday3283
@ashloveday3283 3 года назад
Great video. Just going to point out thpugh. You mentioned Bane and the rule of two with an image of Darth Malgus at 7:28
@ericcohen6944
@ericcohen6944 2 года назад
0:40 took me right back to playing star wars battle front as a child
@maximusthewolfreborn2118
@maximusthewolfreborn2118 2 года назад
If there was a new Sith Lord that had the prophecy foretold I think he can be called Darth Kamel Which stands for perfection
@holeeshi9959
@holeeshi9959 3 года назад
Darth Bane and Darth Malgus aren't exactly the same guy.... also, Revan. I think Revan fit both the Jedi chosen one and Sith'ari at the same time. He brought balance to the force by starting and ending the Jedi civil war, and directly leading to Vitiate's destruction, destroyed the Sith under Malak, but it was his teaching that made Darth Bane make the rule of two
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Revan is important but bane achieved the prophecy
@tomperry5947
@tomperry5947 3 года назад
That thumbnail art is dope
@AscendtionArc
@AscendtionArc 2 года назад
Thanks for this video.
@elishaschoonover8914
@elishaschoonover8914 3 года назад
Hey, thanks Geetsly, I was just wondering if the Sith had a Chosen One Prophecy.
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Even before the video started I declared Darth Bane as the only sithari. And to discover myself correct was amazing. Bane is the best candidate because he destroyed the old sith and created the new order that would finally succeed.
@AlIguana
@AlIguana 2 года назад
.....and then it failed again. For it to suceed, you would need 100,000 years of Sith rule of the Galaxy. Or in perpetuity. We got, what, a couple of hundred years at best?
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 2 года назад
@@AlIguana i believe that is done on purpose by the writers, to show that evil does not always rule forever.
@GoldEagle117
@GoldEagle117 3 года назад
Agreed Palpatine also meets this, as he created a way of immortality with his power in a way he couldn't be stopped for both himself and an apprentice.
@masonroyal36
@masonroyal36 2 года назад
Rule of Two in Legends: Implemented to keep the Sith strong and pure, always making sure they survive. Rule of Two in Disney: fOrcE DyAD
@lohunterbyron3514
@lohunterbyron3514 2 года назад
It’s funny How the Jedi created their own enemy the Sith. The Sith one day had a “chosen one” who Destroyed the Sith only leaving a few survivors. Only for the Sith to create THEIR own enemy By accidentally creating the Jedi’s “chosen one” who ended up Destroying the Jedi Order leaving only a few survivors. Just goes to show you, we create what we fear. And History’s a broke record.
@rosiehawtrey
@rosiehawtrey 3 года назад
Yoda. He *has* to be Sith and experten - after all, all he had to do was stand there and let everything happen whilst saying "give a toss, I don't" then waddle off to a dark side cave. Sith'ari Yoda and his apprentice Jar Jar.
@whatsup2318
@whatsup2318 3 года назад
OMG! Your right. How did I not see it before.
@heatherzespra
@heatherzespra 2 года назад
The picture you had up when talking about bane had a straight lightsaber though I remember the bane series specifically mentioned his being a curved handled one
@jeffagain7516
@jeffagain7516 6 месяцев назад
LOVE that mural of all the sequential Sith Lords at T.S. 6:30 just wish we could have seen the names for the bottom row, as I wanted to screen-shot it. Is there a source to reveal? Thanks again my friend for a great vid! :)
@McC0n0r
@McC0n0r Год назад
You touched on the prominence of "The Chosen One" trope in media but if you accept Sith'ari Bane as canon, it does open up a slightly more unique take on the old cliche. The Chosen One ALREADY happened, a derivation of the trope that we rarely see. And with that perspective, we can view the events that led up to Sith'ari Bane and the effects their power left on their universe.
@blackbirdgaming8147
@blackbirdgaming8147 3 года назад
6:29 where can I find this incredible art?
@otakarlojkasek488
@otakarlojkasek488 Год назад
I love Darth Bane, he was incredible in books
@smallmak5
@smallmak5 3 года назад
My boy bane representin!
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Always enjoy a video that covers Darth bane
@pokecraft117
@pokecraft117 3 года назад
As soon as i heard the interpretation i thought of Bane lol
@TinyCactus7628
@TinyCactus7628 3 года назад
I was under the impression that it was Darth Malgus. He was the embodiment of what the sith wanted in an individual. He was thought dead twice and kept returning. As well as he was not afraid to tell the dark council what he thought, and even made his own “true sith empire” when he thought the current one was to weak and political.
@andrewalexander3578
@andrewalexander3578 Год назад
this taught me something of sith history that i didnt know. btw that wasnt bane you showed that was malgus. its easy to confuse the two. nonetheless awesome video. appreciate this sith Knowledge.
@marnv2956
@marnv2956 2 года назад
Thank you and God bless....
@andrewdau1299
@andrewdau1299 3 года назад
At 6:32 where did you get that art from? It looks cool.
@mokane86
@mokane86 3 года назад
Jedi: "isn't it awesome how we have these temples and hundreds of members and don't believe that the sith are even left , but if they are there are only two of them!" Also Jedi: "can't wait for someone to balance that out!"
@luigimrlgaming9484
@luigimrlgaming9484 2 года назад
It’s like communism when you hear of it sounds good but when yo uexpirience it you realize how Equality is achieved and that you might not live to see it
@IndependentIslamicRepublic
@IndependentIslamicRepublic 2 года назад
very nice video, thank you for sharing. God bless
@KrazyJohnny
@KrazyJohnny Год назад
We need this series
@sparemobius7430
@sparemobius7430 3 года назад
6:30 where is that image form? That is a cool picture.
@fireblade295
@fireblade295 2 года назад
The art style reminds me of middle ages Catholics. Edit: I was right. Google Sith Lords as Catholic Saints.
@sparemobius7430
@sparemobius7430 2 года назад
@@fireblade295 nice, thanks man
@death066
@death066 3 года назад
Pretty much everything the Sith do is confusing
@mdrz
@mdrz 3 года назад
Confusing and just sounds evil
@PBCreation96
@PBCreation96 3 года назад
If they don’t know what the hell they’re doing, the Jedi sure as hell won’t
@whatsup2318
@whatsup2318 3 года назад
@@PBCreation96 Good point. This will be my strategy if I ever need to evade the police.
@JohnCena-le1jj
@JohnCena-le1jj 3 года назад
​@@whatsup2318 But what if they know/predict that you are completely clueless? They'll just use their regular tactics to find and capture you, and since your strategy will be arbitrary, it won't help you outmaneuver their tactics. In fact, it could worsen your chances if anything.
@whatsup2318
@whatsup2318 3 года назад
@@JohnCena-le1jj Well it seemed to work out for the Sith. Mostly 😝
@colbertbumwillywonka1886
@colbertbumwillywonka1886 3 года назад
For some reason you had me convinced it was yoda for a second
@KlaxontheImpailr
@KlaxontheImpailr 9 месяцев назад
Bane sounds like the ultimate sovereign citizen.
@thatguy-qg9lk
@thatguy-qg9lk 3 года назад
The sith seem way more complicated than the Jedi tbh I didn't even know they had a prophecy
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
Meh, the Jedi were overly complicated too!
@MackeyDeez
@MackeyDeez 3 года назад
My issue is that during the thousand years of the rule of two there must have been other dark side force welders to arise. My point is that in order to maintain the rule of two a Sith lord would have to fight both Jedi and those who have fallen into the dark side. Plus having to hunt down and assassinate other up and coming dark siders.
@ryandempsey02
@ryandempsey02 3 года назад
I'd love this please make more like this
@scottjones6860
@scottjones6860 Год назад
The Rule of Two never made sense to me. Thanks for explaining it.
@Rustygiffin
@Rustygiffin 2 года назад
I always figured Anakin was chosen one for both sides. He brought balance to the force by getting rid of the jedi and ultimately emperor palpatine removing jedi and sith from being the deciding power in the galaxy (then episodes 7,8,9 came out)
@kirankillmore720
@kirankillmore720 3 года назад
I recently listed to the Bane audio novels and while you listed the candidates of Sith saviors. I though to myself, Bane is unequivocally the Sith chosen one. Bane in every aspect embodies the Sith traditions and culture. Proven by growth, ability to recognize the weakness and betrayal the dark brotherhood disgraced the Sith in and of itself. Alway down to his master making excuses for B.O.D corruption for the sake of peace and pin pointer at that moment his master was a fool and no longer a master. Bane is the Sith chosen one.
@muskeldundret
@muskeldundret 3 года назад
Before Darth Bane: Sith R Us After Darth Bane: Sith'ari
@asexyhippy9368
@asexyhippy9368 2 года назад
“A load of Sith” my new favorite saying…. Thank you! 😂
@robbailey2535
@robbailey2535 3 года назад
Neither were really correct. I'd like to know if the Grey Force wielders had their own version of the Chosen One. I feel as though it would be much more accurate, as they chose the Force to guide them, rather than using the Force for their own will. Also remember that, when under the ideals of a prophecy, you do what you think is right for the prophecy to come to fruition. This creates a self-fulfilling prophecy, rather than a true one. The Grey Force wielders wouldn't do what they thought would assist in the prophecy, they'd do what the Force requested of them at the time.
@m.c.martin
@m.c.martin 2 года назад
@Joshua Tucker 24ish actually
@adrianthegreat8190
@adrianthegreat8190 3 года назад
Death Bane is my favorite character in Star Wars. The bane trilogy is just 👌 I love the evil side of Star Wars
@AndreNitroX
@AndreNitroX 3 года назад
Darth bane is such a great villain, I even made this fan video
@Spaghetti_Jester
@Spaghetti_Jester 2 года назад
You describe all of this like it’s a good thing.
@michaelb2547
@michaelb2547 2 года назад
Immediately I thought bane. He literally trapped the entire brotherhood of darkness and part of the army of light into the thought bomb. The way its deacons in the book is very bone chillling. A fate worse than death.
@pepster3864
@pepster3864 3 года назад
Last time I was this early KOTOR was still canon
@tako_kawaii1749
@tako_kawaii1749 3 года назад
Sequel is shit compare to kotor
@tako_kawaii1749
@tako_kawaii1749 3 года назад
Ah l see you man of culture 😏👌🏻
@geetslys
@geetslys 3 года назад
KOTOR canonization NOW!
@tako_kawaii1749
@tako_kawaii1749 3 года назад
@@geetslys your weeb or not
@pepster3864
@pepster3864 3 года назад
@@geetslys wow somebody actually found my comment?
@ahsoka5216
@ahsoka5216 3 года назад
There's so many characters that fit the description for the Sith'ari that it's unclear who it actually is just like the Chosen One prophecy was unclear until those events transpired. Unlike the Chosen One prophecy though, there's a lot of events that match to the Sith'ari prophecy that it could be either one of these candidates: Darth Revan, Darth Vader, Darth Bane, or Palpatine So it really is up for debate if the Sith'ari appears whenever there's an imbalance in the force or that it's only one being like the Chosen One prophecy? (I know I mentioned Darth Vader on my list, but for all we know the Sith'ari and the Chosen One could be the same person?)
@user-ov2kx8ql5i
@user-ov2kx8ql5i 2 года назад
We all know that the chosen one sith Lord is Jar Jar.
@tzimiscelord8483
@tzimiscelord8483 3 года назад
7:30 "But Darth Bane, The Sith Lord who..." *shows Darth Malgus on screen*
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