Why the Vindicator is now 40k's BEST Tank... and how to destroy them | 40k Datasheet Deep-Dive 

they are definitely getting sent to legends

Yes, just like the tetras 🤣

Imperial Vindicators most likely. Chaos would update them.

@@RocketHarry865 nah theyll be gone for chaos too

It's just a matter of when. Once GW phases out Tactical Marines/Devastator Marines, that's likely when the Rhino/Razorback is phased out. When the Rhino kit is phased out, I reckon Predators, Vindicators and Whirlwinds are next. I reckon that since we already have successors in the Impulsor and Gladiator, they will probably come up with some "Support Impulsor" than can be built with a frontal siege cannon/mortar or rear mounted missile system. I'm just not sure if the Rhino goes first or if the Predator, Vindicator and Whirlwind go first. Personally I think Tactical Marines, Devastators and Rhino kits are phased out when all main Astartes factions have their Primaris line. Possibly end of 10th edition or early 11th.

Nice 700 point vindicator

Laughs in TSons Vindicator after using Twist of Fate on the Rogal Dorn.

Laughs in Necron Immortals.

@@MrHoneuma that tson tank should never get the first shot

@@MrHoneumayou don’t want to compare tanks with the guard, you’ll be found wanting. Rogal Dorn can turn damage to zero and then blow you off the board with overwhelming firepower

@@Ashalzainteresting tank.

Doesn't work sadly, the SoS Strength bonus only activates when they're selected to fight not in the Charge Phase

@@warphammer1561 right but the charcuterie bonus is active in the fight phase

Smoked meat and cheese board for the win ​@@michaelmastriano7566

Well then have fun wounding it on 6’s, also fnp against psychic mortals

@@lordalpharius5928We have so many rerolls, plus to wound, high strength attacks, mortal wounds, etc. ive played tsons all edition, I have never struggled to kill any unit in a turn.

Gargoyles

The command re-roll stratagem pretty clearly states that the number of attacks made by a weapon can be re-rolled with it.

@@Narokh The little book that came with leviathan does have that and wahapedia ( I know it’s not gospel) doesn’t say it does either.

@@Narokh forget what i posted I have no idea what I read to get that idea sorry

@@markbruce8389 I just checked both the free to download core rules and wahapedia (don’t have access to my physical book atm) - and both have number of attacks included as re-rollable. Are you by chance looking for the word „shots“? Because that is not a thing. A ranged weapon‘s attacks are referred to as such, same as melee artacks. The word shots is not used, so maybe that is throwing you off?

@@Narokh yeah could be. I had someone mid game pull it on me so now I’m trying to figure it out from my own mis reading what they showed me. Either way I’m very happy to be wrong

Imperial guard tanks literally have the same weakness lil

everything is good against current tyranids

@@keenanmccarty9925 No Imperial Guard tanks have more wounds, 4+ invuln from enginseer, and access to -1 damage stratagem all of the time. They dont just have 11 wounds like the Vindicator. So I wouldnt really say they have the same weakness because they dont. Vindicators are very easy to kill in 2-3 hits where it usually takes 3-4 hits to kill a Leman Russ (and often more like 4-5 hits with armored might). Vindicators are definitely not the best tank. Not for firepower, survivability, or the ability to support them. Theyre still very good just not the best.

@@ashardalondragnipurake deathwatch arnt. and their whole thing is supposed to be killing tyranids lmao

@@Khobai their whole thing is being inquisitor puppets and the lack of teamwork that makes other marine chapters functional the perfect thing for tyranids to exploit as soon as the first lictor gets its inevitable meal only reason that doesnt happen is imperial plotarmor

but he hits worse

@@o0Takeno0o Considering the greater speed, more wounds, and significantly larger arsenal, I think thats a minor downside. Plus they can be ordered to hit on the same BS, with all those extra weapons.

Guard tanks don't get Space Marine/ chaos space marine buffs

@@donnerrob6615 No they get orders and invulnerable saves, plus re-rolls to hit from supporting units.

@@richardseaton6390 re-rolls? Like in oath of moment? Orders? For +1 to hit like from a tech marine (also, 3+BS baseline)? And who needs invuns with a 2+ in cover with armour of contempt? What about 5+ crits with lethals and sustained 1? And a "ignore one wound a round?" And repairing?

40k used to have armor facings. they got rid of it to simplify the game and cut down on people arguing what arc theyre in. but I wish they would bring back both armor facing and weapon arcs for vehicles and just supply bases with notches every 90 degrees that have the arcs clearly marked.

@@Khobai yea the system needed a little refining, but instead they cut it for the constant need to simplify the fun out of the game and ease of tournament judging the good old days of armor facing, weapon skill comparing and morale existing

Armor facings are stupid as fuck for a board game and do nothing but needlessly complicate it.

@@johnnyohm4579 yea flanking is such a stupid thing to have in a strategy game

@@johnnyohm4579 wrong. it adds tactical depth to the game because it rewards you for getting behind a target. it does complicate the game a little but only a little. stratagems are what needlessly complicates 40k more than anything.

yeah its ridiculously small if anything