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Why there are weird slow Cars all over Sweden 

Matthias Schwarzer
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While I was on the road in Sweden I noticed a few weird things. For example: Strange slow driving cars that have no license plate but a warning sign at their back. Those vehicles are all over Sweden causing a lot of traffic jams - and obviously there is some kind of a hype about them. But what the heck is that? And what's the story behind those cars? Let's find out!
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@MatthiasSchwarzerEnglish
@MatthiasSchwarzerEnglish Год назад
Thanks for watching! Here's more you might like: ▪ Why Sweden is so damn good at Pop Music: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6smBfgnQGVo.htmlsi=gitY2P_HkDm5vKcU ▪ How Malta lost its Bus Culture: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Yg1TIDkjOmM.html ▪ Why the Netherlands have a Biking Culture (and other Countries don't): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1JUq0vFDuTU.html
@fredashay
@fredashay Год назад
In America those orange triangles are mounted to the backs of farm tractors, construction equipment, and Amish horse-drawn carriages -- all slow-moving vehicles.
@jontebakhjul.aka.jkstuntman
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@picobyte
@picobyte Год назад
Slow riding reduces drag. 😄
@picobyte
@picobyte Год назад
Farmer kids here in The Netherlands still drive tractors to school when there are winter conditions with potential snow. For good reasons!
@TremereTT
@TremereTT Год назад
So it's a microcar or Mopedauto ? Those cars you can drive at the age of 15 in NRW-Germany with a scooter licence, that only drive 45km/h ? Can we convert a regular car into a 45km/h car drivable with scooter licence? Would it get the same cheap Ensurance ? A Ligier-micorcar cost about 300 Euro a year of liability ensurance at my car ensurer. I wonder what would a converted VW-UP cost?
@familiecole
@familiecole Год назад
In Germany there is a statement written into law (StVO) which states that without good reason a 'motor vehicle must not travel so slowly as to impede the flow of traffic'. Even farming traffic tests the legendary patience of German folk.
@StevenAkinyemi
@StevenAkinyemi 9 месяцев назад
What is the benchmark for "so slowly" lol?
@MadMaxx570
@MadMaxx570 Год назад
The "standard" trick for reduction gearing for EPA traktors was usually to put a second transmission in, and locking it in first gear ;) I'm not from sweden, but i have a lot of friends there. The tractor thing was also done here in norway, where i'm from, but never under any state control, and it ended a long time ago. I know of a 1927 Nash that has been tractorized locally
@DIREWOLFx75
@DIREWOLFx75 Год назад
"The "standard" trick" Practiced by a fair number of youths was to have a tiny, innocuous looking -something- close to the gear shift, which had a fishing line tied to it, when you pulled it, you removed the block on the transmission.
@lukaskallin5866
@lukaskallin5866 Год назад
This was removed a couple of years ago, now you can instead do it electronally by programming the ecu to only do 30kmh. Or you can have a little box that controls the speed to 30kmh, it is called h-regg.
@sajkin9705
@sajkin9705 7 месяцев назад
I have some questions about those a-traktors could you help me? I would like to buy one from sweden and drive it 1700km to slovakia but i dont know anyone who is swedish and if I can unlock the speed somehow etc.
@pancake1751
@pancake1751 Месяц назад
​@@sajkin9705 why would you buy an a-traktor from Sweden? What's the reasoning behind it? A-traktors cost A LOT of money, a normal volvo cost maybe $1000 then make it into an a-traktor which costs maybe $300-500 then suddenly you can sell your newly built a-traktor for $4000-6000.
@Elajas123
@Elajas123 Год назад
The cheese slicer is a sculpture in Ånäset indicating that you are entering the "cheese region" symbolic for the special area where the västerbotten cheese is made. Similar to the champagne region is the mecca for bubbly wine.
@najroe
@najroe Год назад
yes, and couple of other award winning cheeses like "svedjan ost" (svedjan,😂 placename inducating primitive agricultural beginnings, ost=cheese)... so they indicate quality cheese, bit further north you enter guldriket (land with gold)
@kimva-is
@kimva-is Год назад
In Finland, the legislation is just as bizarre - you can get a "T" driver's license at the age of 15, which allows one to drive _any_ tractor ... and therefore there is a sizeable business of retrofitting ATV:s with all the things that you need to get the thing registered as a tractor. So we have these ATVs with cabs that have yellow license plates (shared by all "special" vehicles here, I think) and the same big warning sign being driven around by teenagers. The term is "traktorimönkijä" and the rich kids usually drive those Polaris ones that you usually see only in documentaries about US national forest service 😂
@williamgallop9425
@williamgallop9425 Год назад
Fun fact i've noticed: in South Ostrobothnia youngsters with T-licence go to school in their familys biggest 4-wheel drive tractors. In Lapland like in Muonio they come to school using snowmobiles.
@MKylander
@MKylander Год назад
Let's be honest, at least the ATVs like Polaris RZR or Can-Am Maverick are a lot more sensible option than the moped cars.
@MKylander
@MKylander Год назад
@@williamgallop9425 Yeah, kids running 250k€ John Deeres, Fendts, Valtras and whatnot at town when they're not needed on the field has always been a thing in the "Finnish Texas".
@tiki_trash
@tiki_trash Год назад
In the 70s, when I was 14, I learned to drive in a 50s Ford pickup while working for my uncle in South Dakota, USA. It was totally legal as long as I was employed in agriculture and on the job.
@dieseldragon6756
@dieseldragon6756 Год назад
Special vehicles in Sweden have yellow licence plates? That must cause a spot of confusion whenever a British or Dutch vehicle turns up! 🚘🟨😋
@joachimvonritter6113
@joachimvonritter6113 Год назад
To make things clear: The EPA tractor was typically used as a loophole (for kids to drive slick rides). Officially the EPA was classified as an agriculture machine. This allowed for it to be operated by an underage, and at the same time to access public roads. Of course, most EPA’s were in fact never intended for agriculture; they were built to be toys for kids.
@mjouwbuis
@mjouwbuis Год назад
Same in The Netherlands.
@MartinMaat
@MartinMaat Год назад
​@@mjouwbuisNot exactly. We have small "cars" meant for disabled people that are basically mopets on 4 wheels (brommobiel). But none of that agricultural history. Their top speed is 45 km/h and they are not allowed on highways. I don't see them a lot.
@OneKnifeYeHand
@OneKnifeYeHand Год назад
@@MartinMaat Another Dutchie here. We also have decommissioned cars that are allowed to run 25 km/h. They officially classify as agriculture vehicles, but can be any kind of car or van.
@MetaView7
@MetaView7 Год назад
Does EPA Tractor need insurance?
@SumUnicus
@SumUnicus Год назад
​@@MetaView7Yes. All type of vehicles that have a motor (electric or combustion), and can travel in speeds higher then 20km/h needs a insurance in Sweden.
@skiepke
@skiepke Год назад
In the Netherlands we have something similar. MMBS vehicles (cars) intended for agricultural purposes, same sign as in Sweden and maximum speed 45 km/h.
@stijn9957
@stijn9957 Год назад
en dan twee versnellingen toch?
@bertnl530
@bertnl530 Год назад
Some UNIMOGS have this.
@loeihardepuch5543
@loeihardepuch5543 Год назад
​​@@stijn9957 volgens mij wel maar ik rij zelf dan liever brommer dan een auto ombouwen zodat hij slomer gaat
@davidornberg
@davidornberg Год назад
We got those 45 km/h "mopedcars" as well in Sweden... the A-tractor is a good way to use old cars...
@speleken425
@speleken425 Год назад
​@@loeihardepuch5543 except in the winter. As someone who had a moped in sweden. It gets cold on a moped 😅
@juanitooctavio9023
@juanitooctavio9023 Год назад
The biggest difference be😢tween EPA-traktor and A-traktor is the speed-reduktion. Originally, the EPA-traktor had to have a gear-ratio of 10:1. They were only allowed to drive maximum 30, but could drive much faster. I had a friend with a very high revving Volvo traktor. Sounded like a Ferrari. He broke a couple of engines every year... The A-traktor is made to only being capable of a toppspeed of 30 km/h. First it was by combining 2 gearboxes. With the new rules, they are as you said electronically limited to 30. Wich now has started to be a problem... Some use an override switch. With means that you have vehicles capable of 200+, without any legal force to use seatbelts or winter-tyres. This has caused some serious accidens.
@Irg3ndw4s
@Irg3ndw4s Год назад
Maybe raise the speedlimit from 30 to 60 so people dont have to adjust it. even bicycles are faster than 30 km/h no wonder they are tuning it. 50 is a way smaller nuisance on the road and fast enough legaly that you dont have to violate the law. if you have to violate the law to go faster than 30, I understand the thinking of why not go for 200, fine most likely is the exact same anyway. make it regulated like a moped, reviewed by TÜV or what ever.
@buconovosel7742
@buconovosel7742 Год назад
As a truck driver in Sweden,I encountered many of these slow driving cars that suddenly turned to overclocked beasts once they reached their favourite drifting spots.Specialy over the weekends,they were the music for my ears,when I parked overnight on enormous shopping mall parkings,empty and screaming for something funny to happen.And it did happen,on regular basis,witness are the black tyre stripes you can find all across Sweden in industrial areas and shopping mall parking lots.It is,on my advice a good way to learn driving skills,allbeit a little noisy and sometimes dangerous.
@abdiabdi3225
@abdiabdi3225 Год назад
@@Irg3ndw4s 50 is more logical you can't really go on anything bigger than a carriageway
@alexanderwingeskog758
@alexanderwingeskog758 Год назад
They are pretty much everywhere here where I live, and for me it is quite annoying actually. Some of them are really expensive cars (a lot more expensive than what I drive). And it makes traffic for everyone else a bit unsafe. But then again I have also been young (not as rich as to own a EPA/A-tractor though) and had a moped that did exceed the speed limit on cycling roads and that made it unsafe for everyone also... So I do get it, but it is annoying... Specially with the "Moped cars" that could do 50 Km/h on the same roads and are so much "unsafer" than a normal car converted to A-tractor on the same road doing 30... But then again, many of these 30 Km/h only A-tractor converted cars have a hidden switch to electronically make them normal again and for a 15 year old (with sometimes tinkered/tuned engines and much horsepower) doing 200 Km/h with a flick of switch makes it really unsafe again... I don't know what to do about it actually... it's just weird...
@arnehurnik
@arnehurnik Год назад
Would be great if the rules were more similar to the 45kmh moped cars. Well really, anything that can't do 70 is a nuisance on country roads, especially if it's the size of an actual car, but if they can keep up with city traffic that's still a good tradeoff versus a lack of crash safety for example. Of course if we pretend that these are actually for use as tractors, 30kmh rule has good reasons, the lack of a rear suspension in older models (for added load) and the fact that you can still brake a heavy trailer from those speeds just with your car's brakes. There's still an EU rule that says you can pull a heavy trailer with a passenger car and/or with no trailer brakes as long as you stay below 25kmh. Other than farmers, I think showmen also profited from that since they were often using road tractors and simple trailers. If these are basically used as sans permis vehicles the rules definitely need to be reworked. Bear in mind I'm not from Sweden so I might not get the full picture.
@grebo8382
@grebo8382 11 месяцев назад
I built an A-traktor with my father and I love to drive it even if I can only go 30km/h. Not every A-traktor's top speed is 30km/h because people manipulate them to go faster. I know a guy who manipulated his by using 1 single 50cm long cable. It took him less than 5 minutes to do and when he was done he took it out for a test drive and topped at 180km/h. This is very illegal ofcourse. The culture around it is very fun to be a part of and I love it. We party, we drift and we do all kinds of fun stupid shit. My friend drives a white van A-traktor with a huge sticker on the side of it saying "Free candy". He actually does give people free candy if they come forward and ask for it. Last winter me and 6 other people sat at the back of the van and 3 at the front (the driver and 2 passengers) and we started drifting. We flew around like hell at the back of the van because there weren't any seats and I will never forget how fun it was.
@98Zai
@98Zai 7 месяцев назад
Very good summary! This here explains the whole thing!
@Caprifool
@Caprifool Год назад
To the non swedes seing this: Ad our loooong cold winters and a public transport system that really doesn't work so well rurally or between neighbouring counties to the equation. Long distandes, cold, a dismantled bus net and if LUCKY a commuter train every or every other hour makes it rather difficult to hang out with friends. Meeting half way at a gas station and hanging in a cosy car, beats riding a moped for 50 minutes or wasting half a day on a commuter train and waiting on a platform in a snowstorm to see your friend's. I know what I would choose.
@skitidet4302
@skitidet4302 Год назад
Kids are getting soft. They should learn to dive a tuned moped at 100 km/h though any weather like back in the old days. It breeds strong hardy men.
@wizardrhyme9597
@wizardrhyme9597 Год назад
​@@skitidet4302We have plenty of them on the roads too. I went with the a1 license and drove a ktm 125 supermoto instead.
@skitidet4302
@skitidet4302 Год назад
@@wizardrhyme9597 I did that as well when I was young, only difference was that I got a KMX 125 and ran it with off-road tires since I mostly rode on dirt roads anyways.
@faronrich9381
@faronrich9381 Год назад
Why can't they do the same thing at normal speeds? The US has no rural public transport and Swedish-type winters in the extreme Northern states, but you still have to drive at a legal speed with vehicles that can reach minimum and maximum speed limits.
@stink1701
@stink1701 Год назад
At least you have rural trains that run regularly. Even in our mid sized cities here in the US we barely get a train to the next city a few times a day. And it only stops at one station. No one can beat the failure of public transit in the US. Nice try though.
@koantao8321
@koantao8321 Год назад
Having learned to drive Canada, at 16 I had the driver's license. In rural Canada it was not uncommon for kids to drive as soon as they could reach the pedals and look over the dashboard. The same rule to be applied in Sweden makes sense, especially where public transportation is scarce. Now there are electric cars that can be easily set for those speeds and well, that's the future for Swedish rural kids.
@skitidet4302
@skitidet4302 Год назад
Electric? Heck no! There's no sound! No smoke! The thing is huge fire and toxic hazard. It's a no go. Rather ride around in a wood powered steam engine.
@nzxt1234
@nzxt1234 Месяц назад
yes excalty
@Fransenn
@Fransenn Год назад
i drove one of these tractors when i was 15 untill i turned 17. i firstly had a Volvo 244 and later i had a Volvo duett. (both was an A-tractor) and i miss that part of my life very often. and i never get mad when im behind one today as i drove one myself when i was that age. i love them and i hope they stay for ever.
@spamanator666
@spamanator666 Год назад
Getting stuck behind these things sucks, especially if it is a busy traffic day or a narrow one-track lane.
@janpersson9818
@janpersson9818 Год назад
Or if you are driving a bus on smaller country roads and need to be on time.
@Fransenn
@Fransenn Год назад
i dont mind
@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497
@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497 Год назад
@@Fransenn I mind that you don't mind. You are giving legitimacy to inconsiderate practices on the basis that it doesn't affect *you personally* . There will come a time when your indifference will no longer be tolerated and you will be made to walk wherever you want to go, no matter how quickly you would like to get there.
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 Год назад
@@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497 If I was affected I would not mind either. There are not enough trees for reckless drivers to wipe themselves out against.
@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497
@rabbiezekielgoldberg2497 Год назад
@@mbak7801 Then stay off the roads and stop ruining things for everyone else.
@mabs503
@mabs503 Год назад
There are a couple of suggested changes to the rules that might change things. Now the maximum speed for A-traktors is 30, while the normal speed limit in towns are 40 or 50. You can already buy a 2 seater 4 wheel moped car that has 45 as max speed, so it's suggested to change to this for A-tractors too. As it's not too difficult to manipulate the speed limit, and there are ofcourse kids who do that and with more vehicles more accidents happen. There is no requirement to use seatbelts now, but this might soon change.
@GegoXaren
@GegoXaren Год назад
I think we should just ban them, as we now have moped cars.
@ebbewedstedt3620
@ebbewedstedt3620 Год назад
@@GegoXaren moped cars are more dangerous and less like real cars. These young people get to learn how to drive and fix cras long before they get the normal car licence which is great.
@GegoXaren
@GegoXaren Год назад
@@ebbewedstedt3620 They are not more dangerous. Bugger off.
@tyrx360
@tyrx360 Год назад
@@GegoXaren Tf you talking about, the cars are litterally made out of plastic to make them lighter and they dont even have to go through crash testing. Also personally i have so say fuck moped cars, just buy a real car when you turn 18. they cost the same as a real fucking car and can only go 45 and are made of fucking plastic. Huge waste of money
@markwright3161
@markwright3161 Год назад
@@GegoXaren Crash one at the same speed as in any car and the result is more serious injuries than in the car, so in that sense, they're more dangerous.
@Volvo_EG
@Volvo_EG 5 месяцев назад
So I think there is another reason for the ton of classic cars in Sweden. In the winter they are not putting tons of salt on the roads but sand which is not damaging the car regarding corrosion. Latter is not happen in Sweden.
@UllmaDoriis
@UllmaDoriis 2 месяца назад
An EPA tractor used in agriculture in the old days was a converted old truck not a car. These were forbidden to be driven by young people without a driving license (18 years old) sometime in the -90s due to the heavy weight of the vehicle and all the serious accidents it created. But these converted heavy trucks are still used today in agriculture for transport between fields and warehouses on the farm 👍
@orchidhouse297
@orchidhouse297 Год назад
In the UK 20mph streets are spreading in the name of safety and less pollution. The problem is keeping down to that speed, especially in a high torque vehicle where the slightest accelerator movement can shoot the speed up to 25mph in seconds. I saw a list of 20mph accidents, one into a bus stop, one into a hairdressers shop, one into a school fence and others. They all had the same reason - looking at the speedometer instead of the road. I found using a low gear with the engine at max revs keeps the speed within limits but does nothing for mpg figures.
@malthuswasright
@malthuswasright Год назад
Sounds a bit like the French Voitures Sans Permis, that allowed younger people to drive "cars" that were power limited. The main issue there was that there was a significant aftermarket for those who had driving bans for drunk driving... They could still get VSPs and be mobile.
@SimonJPFuhrt
@SimonJPFuhrt Год назад
Well it is definitely safer than driving with scooters on the roads. As well as I can imagine that driving behind those vehicles can be pretty annoying.
@andreasu.3546
@andreasu.3546 Год назад
Safer for the driver? Probably. Safer for everyone else? Not so sure...
@mjouwbuis
@mjouwbuis Год назад
The law for converting cars to agricultural vehicles (not necessaricly tractors) was far from unique. It existed in The Netherlands as well, maybe still does. I think that category has now been mostly superseded by the 4 wheel moped category which also has existed for a few decades.
@ackermandrives
@ackermandrives Год назад
800 subs? i thought this was a 100k+ channel. Really great content!
@bruceh4180
@bruceh4180 Месяц назад
Wow! it's 16K now
@S.E.C-R
@S.E.C-R Месяц назад
So now they’re basically teenagers learning to drive… we have bright yellow stickers or magnets here that say student driver or something like that to let others know it’s a new driver, but from what I’ve seen in my area a lot of drivers are annoyed by them and try to intimidate them on the road when they see those student driver stickers.
@98Zai
@98Zai 7 месяцев назад
Ok, Here's some cultural context: The Vintage cars were adored by a type of subculture called "Raggare" in the 50's and 60's. They loved everything North American, especially the 50's music and for some reason the confederate flag (It means what you think it means). To Ragga means to "pick up/chase" girls generally. So their culture mainly consisted of cars, partying, fighting and sleeping around. They were generally rambunctious and caused a lot of problems in the country back then, being drunk all the time and starting fights and all sorts of crime. Fast forward to the 80's and 90's the Raggar culture had become retro and some kids (mostly rural) back then embraced the culture but couldn't afford the now very valuable vintage cars, so instead they built their own EPA Tractors by converting old Volvos and stuff. We called them "volvo Raggare". They were equally rambunctious, but perhaps a little more law abiding. They often installed bothersome contraptions on their cars, like novelty horns, extra exhaust pipes that spewed black smoke and removed the mufflers. The confederate flags remained... This new generation of kids do not directly adhere to the old Raggar culture, they're just rural kids who are spoiled by their parents. They are pretty rambunctious as teenagers generally are, but they are a lot more harmless than the previous iterations of this trend. You can probably presume what I think about the whole thing. The worst part about the A-Traktor kids is that the converted machines are basically just superficial modifications to a normal car, this means that they easily can install a switch that turns off the limitations. The police say that up to 80-90% of the A-Traktors on the roads have this modification. It's common to see them speed away as soon as they exit towns. As they are teenagers they're not especially safe drivers, they generally use the cars as toys, sliding around doing burnouts and stuff like that. It's quite terrifying to meet one outside of town, as you know there is a pseudo psychopath with limited impulse control giggling in there mad with power.
@JBobjork
@JBobjork Год назад
I love that you show a Volvo 780 when you talk about every second person drives a Volvo. You wont see many 780s though, they are very unusual :)
@wizardrhyme9597
@wizardrhyme9597 Год назад
I love them, never owned one. I drove a supermoto instead but seeing the Epa's on the road always brings me a smile cause i know that behind the wheel, there's a kid absolutely loving every second of driving. Yeah its annoying to get stuck behind them sometimes but its worth it. Many people want to get them off the roads but if anything i think we should keep them on the roads but allow them to go 50km/h instead like the moped cars
@pcread
@pcread Год назад
In Örebro last month I saw an Audi A4 wagon, about 2015 vintage with the orange triangle. It had the loudest car stereo I've ever heard and shiny chrome wheels at a ridiculous negative camber. There's a word for people like the kid driving that, but he'll soon be deaf, so won't hear me say it anyway.
@waddsbadds
@waddsbadds Год назад
Thanks. Matthias for this interesting video. My wife and I took a trip to Sweden a few years ago. We bought a new Volvo under their overseas delivery programme. Under this programme you purchase the car at your local dealership in the United States and pick the car up at the factory in Gothenburg. After taking delivery of the car we drove around Gothenburg for a day or so then got on the motorway to drive to Oslo. While in Gothenburg I can confirm your statement that about every other car is a Volvo, I would say that at least half of them were, although, when you get away from Gothenburg, it's probably less than 50%. While driving around other parts of Sweden - we later drove from Oslo to Stockholm, then back to Gothenburg, we saw many vintage American cars, so I am able to confirm your second observation. However, we did not see any EPA or A tractors
@calysagora3615
@calysagora3615 Год назад
One reason might be that they don't go on any motorway, and that they are not at all popular or common in cities, but is definitely mostly a thing for rural areas, historically and culturally.
@nzxt1234
@nzxt1234 Месяц назад
Vintage american cars are big thing in sweden its been part of a sub cluture sense the 1950s and 60s and bigger today
@michaelenglund
@michaelenglund 11 месяцев назад
I live in Sweden and have had a drivers license for 30 years. The A-tractors are annoying and create more unsafe situations than the safety those would create giving the 15 year olds practice on the roads. There are even 110 km/h roads where the A-tractots are allowed. It would be much better just to let the 15 year olds wait til 16 to get a light motorcycle licence if they want to go quicker than a moped in the 6 months of ridable roads. Or just wait until 18 years of age to get a license for cars.
@catd11ng74
@catd11ng74 7 месяцев назад
Would you drive a motorcycle in the winter when there's snow and -20°C?? Guess not!! One reason why 15 year old kids behave like they do depends on how their parents have raised them.
@maggiepie8810
@maggiepie8810 Год назад
They have been involved in a few accidents in which teenagers have died, as well. Up until recently, no seatbelts were required, and it was legal to let your friends ride along on the loading platform. Another of their problems is that they're still technically cars, and the conversion is oftentimes only done by locking the gear box in the first gear (it's not like some teenagers have figured out how to make them go faster). Do I think that they should be exported to other countries? Not really, no. Let them remain one of our national oddities. Implementing something like them in Germany would also be even more of disaster, unless Stau is your favourite thing ever.
@Rodinj10
@Rodinj10 Год назад
When I stumbled upon your weird border video I was shocked to see how few subscribers you had. You definitely deserve more!
@kuldan5853
@kuldan5853 Год назад
His main channel (in German) has around 90k subscribers, he only recently started to break out into english content :)
@juhapihkanen
@juhapihkanen Год назад
3:09 Why showing Cuban cars (wrecks) when talking about swedish car culture?
@stefansoder6903
@stefansoder6903 Год назад
The biggest safety concern is that it is very easy to manipulate the electronic speed limiters. Many of the A-tractors are driven very fast and there are a lot of accidents. Just imaging a 15 year old going 160 km/h with giggling friends crammed in to the vehicle.
@drdewott9154
@drdewott9154 Год назад
Yeah that is very concerning! If rural sweeden is at the point where the youth is gonna be dependent on a vehicle regardless, lets at least make sure its a safe one for everyone involved. I'm thinking maybe something like E-bikes and or those electric micro vehicles that are designed for elderly. The main idea I have is they should be compatible with use on bike lanes, and probably be followed up with investment into bike lanes on main roads with high speed limits to accomodate them, as well as other micromobility options.
@04smallmj
@04smallmj Год назад
The Netherlands has this issue with their 25 k/hr "snorfietsen"
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Год назад
everyone drives like 140 km/h here on the highway in Alabama even though the limit is 112.6 km/h
@I-Libertine
@I-Libertine Год назад
So remind me: what did those two rather big references to American classic car collecting (and Cuban vehicles) have to do with A-Traktors?
@sprague49
@sprague49 Год назад
Wow. Sweden actually figured out how to make teenagers drive like old folks.
@ROCKMICHAnr2
@ROCKMICHAnr2 26 дней назад
no one who drives a normal car likes the EPA and I am of the opinion that we should raise the speed limit to the same as we have for EU mopeds 46km maybe even increase to 50Km on both so that they don't stop the traffic as much
@BlueBetaPro
@BlueBetaPro Год назад
Imagine the many many millions in productivity loss per year from sitting behind those cars just so rich parents teenagers can show off, that's the dumbest thing I have ever heard, just give them ATVs instead.
@henryandersson7141
@henryandersson7141 Год назад
I thought everybody were familiar with Emperor of cheese: Westerbotten, and the fact that it is made in Burträsk, but apparently not... We live in a world where communication is essential, even for teenagers. The A-traktor is the least bad alternativ for peeople with some financial limits: It's safer than a 2-wheeler or a "mopedbil" (a squimish aluminium or plastic chassi running 45...), it's warmer than a 2-wheeler (tenagers seem to have forgotten have to put on clothes...), they are almost (!) affordable... The downside is lousy fuelconsumption, and the built-in capacity for enraging everybody else. It is though very interesting to see that other countries have different solutions solving the issue of teenage transportation.
@nekture
@nekture Год назад
Good, accessible and wanted public transit comes first but this could fill mobility gaps in too rural areas.
@einzeln-und-frei
@einzeln-und-frei Год назад
Ok - You 4-got the fact that you dont have to pay taxes for cars older than 30 years in Sweden - and you have not to visit the Swedish "TÜV" (Bilbesiktning) any longer. So owning an old car is by far not as expensive as in Germany. And due to the fact that you do all kind of "registration" or taking a car "out of traffic" (for a while) - online - you can reduce even the costs for your insurance just by taking your car "out of trafic" when not needing it. Actually these "classic EPA/A-Tractor-scene" (old cut Volvos) is shrinking. Also due to the fact that f.e. sefety-belts and winter-tires (in winter) are required, now by law.
@alanscott8063
@alanscott8063 Год назад
In France, the rule is Vehicule Sans Permis (Vehicle without permit). Driven by 14 year olds and people who have no driving licence (drink drivers in rural areas). The regulations control the weight and speed (45kmh max) of the vehicle. The Citroen Ami is built to these regulations.
@seanmar1738
@seanmar1738 Год назад
I do live in the country in the U.S. I would totally get one for my younger kids to practice with. (And, if they really can serve as a kind of makeshift tractor, then I might get one for that too, because I could use a tractor, and, I can't quite afford a tractor, and, I keep hearing about how the tractor companies are making the new tractors so proprietary that you can't fix them yourself, so, I have always thought that making my own would be best anyway.)
@NorthernFlight
@NorthernFlight Год назад
You got it good, great video 👍
@Soundbrigade
@Soundbrigade Год назад
I haven’t read comments but the A-tractors do rise a lot of 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬. Having spent 30km behind one of these just makes me wonder where to get a Panzerfaust ….
@Amiliana82
@Amiliana82 5 дней назад
The annoyance with the A-tractors really depends on what type of road you are on and how easy it is for them to drive to the side. If its a big road where they can easily slip into P pockets a bit here and there, its not as much annoyance. But on single roads where the speed limit is above 80 km/h and no chance for them to slip to the side it becomes really aggrevating and dangerous. It is recently up in EU about raising the speed limit of the A-tractors from 30 to 45 km / h so they are same as EU class 1 mopeds. Personally I think they should raise the speed limit to 50 km / h, which is the normal speed within towns (except outside schools etc) and that they have to practise driving in them, and do the driver's exam in them. That would keep them more safe, and they would learn to handle such a big vehicle. Today they only have to do a written exam and then a driving exam on a moped, to later be allowed to sit inside a "car" without earlier practise.
@jonathanwilson773
@jonathanwilson773 5 месяцев назад
You get cars restricted to 25kph in Germany. I see an old Fiat Panda everyday with a 25kph sticker on the back.
@sgtepic4659
@sgtepic4659 Год назад
It's absolutely terrible. I hate them. They always block traffic on single lane roads.
@CO0L_CAT
@CO0L_CAT Год назад
On more than 1 lane roads, can you drive past it?
@Jacko-Jackonelli
@Jacko-Jackonelli Год назад
@@CO0L_CATin Sweden there is very foten only one line. We dont live USA or canada
@CO0L_CAT
@CO0L_CAT Год назад
@@Jacko-Jackonelli I live in Norway, I get what you mean. But if you are in Stockholm or Gøteborg. What then?
@KingCat12
@KingCat12 Год назад
On a single lane road I've seen epa cars drive all the way to the right or stop on the side of the road to let traffic by. I know they are annoying but not all teens who drive epa are jerks
@sebbekartellen6493
@sebbekartellen6493 11 месяцев назад
i love them. i used to have one a couple years ago and my little brother got one right now. if you don’t like them then stay out of our country!
@sennheiser1986
@sennheiser1986 Год назад
there's also a few like this in belgium, 4 wheeled mopeds with a speed limit of 45km/h
@dnb5661
@dnb5661 Год назад
As far as I know, there is something simmilar in the USA and Canada, where you don't need a full license to drive vehicles that are 50CC or lower.
@itzcookie05
@itzcookie05 Год назад
I wouldn't say it only started a year ago I saw these types of vehicles begin their rise in popularity about two or three years ago, one person in the same school year as me had gotten two of these one which was a pickup truck model and one which was a BMW city car model, it felt really weird which is how I've been able to keep track of roughly when it began despite my spotty memory concerning time.
@zenja42
@zenja42 Год назад
I guess we might get that trend here also, Citroën Ami & opel rocks electric. They are not driven by young ones... at least I've seen only a low percentage with that. But I see middle age and older people with them in Kassel. When I asked on at bauhaus they told me "yea, normally I drive by bike/public transport and avoid cars, but for getting goods or weather is not good/cold... its nice to have a smoll one, that can fit on a small slot. I'm sharing a parling space in the garage with my neighbour and we only need a normal power plug." I guess there is a market for smaller, practical, electric cars with 50-120km range. At least if they cost less then 6000-8500€ - this is what people I know pay for their city/second car that they normally buy used.
@intrepidbiped
@intrepidbiped Год назад
Living in Canada, where a trip from one town to another is at least 60-70km, this just wouldn't work out. We travel at 10km over the posted speed limit as a norm.
@youraveragejdmenthusiast430
these go 30 km/h like my e bike does on good days, I still wish to have lived in sweden with one of these because my ass freezes and no radio to play my favourite songs :(, but the good news is I get to drive faster version pretty soon EDIT: Aaand my E bike is actually more dangerous than these and these guys don't need to compare specs because who cares because they all go 30 km/h
@oe8723
@oe8723 Год назад
they should go 50 kmh!
@JindrichOchmann
@JindrichOchmann Год назад
Age restrictions for driving licences are plain stupid. I rode a motorcycle in the Czech Republic illegally from the age of fourteen. Children from villages often had motorbikes at even a younger age. I was a better safer driver then than most middle-aged drivers are today. Driving school exams should be much more demanding, but without age limits. No funny annoyingly slow cars/tractors won't be needed.
@martinceder9301
@martinceder9301 Год назад
I never owned one myself or even been inside one. Where I live there are a lot of them and I often get stuck behind them. With that said they bring a smile to my face. It is a great youth culture and in a way they really are the kings and the queens of the roads.
@cheeseparis1
@cheeseparis1 Год назад
Are this vehicles allowed abroad? people would drive this in Paris, speed limit is 30 km/h! Danger = running red lights with no license plate...
@williamlloyd3769
@williamlloyd3769 Год назад
Pretty strange but guess this class of vehicles services a purpose.
@SpaceCattttt
@SpaceCattttt Год назад
Swede here. I've lived abroad since the late 90s, so much of this is new to me. However, when I was growing up, an EPA tractor was essentially seen as an alternative to the moped, which was the slower and safer version of a motorcycle. I personally think of pickup trucks when I think of EPA tractors, and I think it's horrible what they do to fancy modern cars in order to convert them. But I'm all for the kids gaining experience driving at an early age. Not to mention that a tractor is a LOT safer than a moped.
@pancake1751
@pancake1751 Месяц назад
Not really safe when 80% of the epas have switches that make them drive like a normal car. But the stupidest thing is that you can drive these cars with only a moped license.. which makes no sense that you do classes with only a moped, then when you get the license you can just go drive a car with no experience..
@SpaceCattttt
@SpaceCattttt Месяц назад
@@pancake1751 True. I didn't know about those switches. That certainly should be illegal (I assume it is?) and treated as an offense if found out about. The EPA tractors have always been hotly debated, though. They've been banned and accepted several times; back and forth. I suppose the main reason why they haven't disappeared is because they've become a sort of institution in Sweden. For many kids, having one is one of those milestones you reach on your way to adulthood. But whether that's good or bad, hmm...
@pancake1751
@pancake1751 Месяц назад
@@SpaceCattttt yeah switches or anything that makes the a-traktor go faster is illegal. And if police found you need to have your epa re-registered which is a pain in the ass to make the car fully legal and registered, and it costs a lot of money. Also when a-traktors were made 10-15 years ago the rule was to have 2 gearboxes and you had to make so that when you were in second gear your top speed is 30 but only at max rev limit, so for a volvo 740/940 at max speed (30km/h) you had to rev it to the limit, about 7500-8000 rpm. So basically you had to destroy your motor to be able to drive at 30 km/h. Imagine banging the rev limiter ALL THE TIME to only reach 30 km/h
@fougamagister8862
@fougamagister8862 Год назад
in Belgium all cars have become A-Tractors as in most cities and even some rural areas the maximum speed is lowered to 30 km/h, the only difference is that young people can't drive them. And when they at last obtain a license (being 18 yrs or older) often they don't know how to behave and fly off roads driving at least 130 km/h :-)
@Crazywave89_Gd
@Crazywave89_Gd 6 месяцев назад
as a Swede. My mother has told me multiple times that she would kill me if i got an A-tractor
@HRM.H
@HRM.H Год назад
Alot of rich farmer kids do this before they can legally drive cars. They get them restricted and derestricted after inspection.
@AllieThePrettyGator
@AllieThePrettyGator Год назад
normally slow moving signs are used for farming and constructions vehicles
@LumenPsycho
@LumenPsycho Год назад
What a stupid law. No wonder everything in Sweden is fricked..
@willsonboi
@willsonboi Год назад
As a proud owner of a Saab 9-5 A-tractor i can say that its very usefull and fun of course. Although there are also things called moped bilar (moped cars) that in the same way epa tractors classify as tractors they classify as mopeds. So the moped cars can drive up to 45km/h which i think is a good speed for a-tractors too. I mean, i cant even drive in my citys speed limit whilst the moped cars overtake me. I also think that if your car had backseats before it was build it should be allowed to have and use those too. Because before right this month i think, you could sit as many as youd want in the front and without seatbelts. But if you had backseats that wouldnt necessarily be an issue. And as you said the epa tractors are a good way to learn how to drive to get a normal drivers license. I mean, i didnt know how to use the clutch or nothing but now i watch videos of people failing ther driving school tests and cringe for them.
@lofis07a
@lofis07a Год назад
Local Swede here A traktors can be re-registered back into a car once they take their license
@ThePlombyras
@ThePlombyras Год назад
Most of A tractor converted old volvos can go 30km/h and do a burnout at same time☝️
@MaffiLu
@MaffiLu Год назад
Thank God for minium speed requirements on German federal roads and Autobahn 🖕😸🖕
@gerdopitz1062
@gerdopitz1062 Год назад
sorry to correct there are 25 km cars on german streets and 45 kmh cars all with smal insuranceplate only
@MaffiLu
@MaffiLu Год назад
@@gerdopitz1062 sorry to correct you, i have never denied the existence of these cars. But let me add to it, these 25/45 kph vehicle's, are not allowed on the Autobahn or Autostraßen, as they do not drive faster than 60kph. On every other road, they are allowed, yes.
@Lampe2020
@Lampe2020 Год назад
I moved from Schleswig-Holstein in Germany to Småland in Sweden about a year ago. I also thought about byuing an a-traktor but because I'm almost old enough for a driver's license for "real" cars and I'm not exactly bathing in money I didn't buy one.
@nightnope
@nightnope 5 месяцев назад
A-Tractor is WAY better solution than "mopoauto" aka moped car what we have in Finland. those chickenboxes are lethal.
@KristopherNoronha
@KristopherNoronha Год назад
probably better off for everyone if they used ebikes instead. a car at even 30 km/h can do a lot of damage - not to other cars, but to pedestrians, cyclists and motorcyclists.
@Nyth63
@Nyth63 Год назад
My Dad got his driver's license in Wisconsin, USA in 1947 at age 14. The was agricultural provision in the law at that time.
@gabrielarrhenius6252
@gabrielarrhenius6252 Год назад
The majority of those who drives them are idiots nowadays... I am saying that as a swede who knows some who made a hole in their roofs to fire of fireworks during new years eve...
@anokata-kd8oc
@anokata-kd8oc Год назад
Compared to your high production quality, your subscriber count is very low. It's a shame that not more people know about this channel. Keep up the good work.
@thogusdonatus4607
@thogusdonatus4607 Год назад
Epa cars are so annoying when u are driving on a 70km road They can only drive up to 40-50 km in total but some do pull the pin and it drives the same speed as a normal car but that is a crime and u can get a ban on future driving license i am not sure but i think u get a short sentence for this
@BabaVossss
@BabaVossss Год назад
No one on the road would appreciate epa traktor in front of you. it is unsafe, a traffic jam creator. worst of all, it consumes more fuel. you have that terrible exhaust gas smell all over your car.
@shapeshifter1364
@shapeshifter1364 Год назад
Yes. They are not obligated to have catalytic exhaust gas treatment on the "tractor", so they dismantle it at sell it - (to buy beer?) . That´s why they stink so awfully that you have to turn off the fan inside the car not to choke to death. 🤮
@silkdestroyer
@silkdestroyer Год назад
Speaking from the UK looks like a totally stupid idea. Cars driving around at that speed? Nothing but a nuisance.
@janjson435
@janjson435 Год назад
Living in Sweden and i totally agree. It is a plague on Swedish roads
@janjson435
@janjson435 Год назад
However from an active safety perspective the slightly converted regular cars are far better than the many chinese-built plastic moped cars totally lacking safety systems
@SteveMorton
@SteveMorton Год назад
France allows 4 wheeled quadra-cycles with a speed limit of 45kph and max cc of 660 they are a pain at that speed even with a line of traffic behind them. There are also electric versions coming out the Citroen Ami being the most known one!
@gregor-samsa
@gregor-samsa Год назад
Where Can I book a one week vacation with this?
@drdewott9154
@drdewott9154 Год назад
Yeah I live in Denmark and I can so badly see how this is problematic. I mean traffic safety is one thing but there's also many other issues to consider like drunk driving where I have to question if it really is that safe for both the driver and the other people on the road if a drunken 15 year old can be allowed to drive a tractor with how that stuff affects your senses. I think the much safer solution honestly would be expansions into bicycle infrastructure and micro mobility solutions that are more tailored to fit within those parameters, like E-bikes or if absolutely needed because of distance, maybe those little electronic microscooters usually designed for the elderly. Just my 2 cents on it as someone who is also concerned about traffic safety and car dependency.
@johan.ohgren
@johan.ohgren Год назад
Laws of driving under influence still applies for EPA/A-traktorer.
@drdewott9154
@drdewott9154 Год назад
@@johan.ohgren The problem is, these people are likely still gonna get drunk, but they'd still be dependent on the A-tractor to get home rather than a means in which they're not a risk of safety to everyone else or themselves. Like Do you think just because a law forbids something that it just doesn't happen? As long as there's a bigger underlying issue thats unadressed it'll keep being the case.
@johan.ohgren
@johan.ohgren Год назад
@@drdewott9154 no, but if they get caught driving drunk the tractor gets confiscated and the offender is barred from taking any licence.
@drdewott9154
@drdewott9154 Год назад
@@johan.ohgren Again, Don you think that'll stop them? The police can't possibly be enough places for it to be a liability for many, plus you gave to realise something. Most teenagers are insanely stupid, and even more so when drunk. And this is coming from someone who was a teenager themselves just 4 years ago, I couldn't stand my peers! Even if there's a high risk of heir tractor getting confiscated they won't care until they're in an accident so big it affects them negatively for the rest of their life like putting them in a wheelchair or requiring a limb to be amputated. They have little to none risk assessment and it's even worse when they're drunk. This is why it's so important to make any way they get around in a safe and practical one where like I said, it's not of serious harm to themselves or anyone else like E-bikes.
@tangfors
@tangfors Год назад
The cheese slicer, is a Swedish invention, that's probably why it's there, the person who invented it might have been from the place you passed by.
@enkvadrat_
@enkvadrat_ Год назад
There is a cheese aging facility close by and half an hour away the factory for”västerbottens” cheese is located
@charlesfranks1902
@charlesfranks1902 Год назад
If I were a kid, had the money to buy one and operate it, yeah, I would buy one.
@baskoning9896
@baskoning9896 Год назад
30 km per hour is way to slow. The danger then becomes a slow car on the road. 50 km per hour sounds more reasonable. For example, the Dutch allows 16 year olds to ride mopeds (with helm) that can ride 50km/h. We also allow I think 16 year olds to drive farm equipment (including tractors and harvesting machines and such), but only on very short paths (from one farm plot to the other for example), and never on highways. Its a bit strange to see a teenager driving a monster tractor on roads you normally need a drivers license and be 18 for.
@emil3118
@emil3118 Год назад
who said it has to be slow:)?
@matsv201
@matsv201 Год назад
There is a small but important factor missing here. You do need a license to drive a tractor, a tractor license. It use to be that every higher license you took, you automatically all the once under. So in the old days, if you got a Bus license you got all the licenses. This was change in the 90s so you have to take each and every license seperatly, apart from tractor license. So you got any other license, you automatically got a tractor license. In 2009 they added driving license for a moped. Prior to 2009 you could just jump onto a moped and drive it. But from 2009 you needed a license. This was golden for all the driving schools making bank. But as s side effect of that, every one who got a moped license automatically got a tractor license, and if you have a tractor license you can drive both a EPA and a A-tractor. Because moped is really common, loads of people get moped license, hence loads of people are alowed to drive a A-tractor. When its suddenly get pretty cheap to convert a car to a A-tractor. Say the family got a 8-10 year old car and getting a new one. Its not that much more expensive just converting it than buying a new moped. And the car is typically worth MORE as a A-tractor than a car, so you might actually increase the value of it. On top of that, the kid is now well protected with dual side airbags and crumple zone that is waaay over kill for 30km/h. (really more of protection against other motorists). Suddenly the kids get 100 of hours of driving experience. Yes, its a bit slower, but in city and suburb traffic, the diffrance is really not huge. All fine and good? nopp, traffic school start complaining. How hard is it to make a driving test when you have 100 of hours of driving in what is effectively a car. Not at all, you just need a few hours at highway speeds to get used to it. Drivingschools are not happy. Suddenly they decided A-tractors are really really dangerous. Very ironic because they are proven to be way less dangerous than EPA tractors. The thing is, even in city streets, there is a noticeable diffrance between driving at a limited 30 km/h and 40km/h... +VAT. And that give teens that is a bit inexperance the extra time needed to react and learn with really very little danger to people around
@fredrikoscar4741
@fredrikoscar4741 Год назад
We call the small plastic ones Ice cream boxes. Hate them....
@cloggybobbyrg
@cloggybobbyrg Год назад
Wait........ this video has only 300 views? it should be a crime to have such a low viewcount with such high production quality... You've earned a new subscriber :)
@jontebakhjul.aka.jkstuntman
There was no Mercedes Benz 300c in the 30s they used lot older car parts shorten a pick up and restricted it to 30 km u missing lot of important information
@TheClunkingFist
@TheClunkingFist Год назад
We need this in New Zealand!
@Toksyuryel
@Toksyuryel Год назад
Oh man, I *NEED* to know what Not Just Bikes thinks about these things.
@fortheloveofnoise
@fortheloveofnoise Год назад
His voice makes me want to jump in front of a train....he has some good points though. Anyways, I will move from the U.S. to Sweden to live with my fiancé, as an American, cars are your identity, so I will have all our kids driving as soon as possible.
@stormgamingtv6096
@stormgamingtv6096 6 месяцев назад
Im currently in 9th grade and some of my classmates own A-tractors and one my friends is one of them.
@henrik.norberg
@henrik.norberg Год назад
I live in Sundsvall in north, actually exactly in the middle but called north, and we have the most of those stupid slow cars of all of Sweden. The person responsible for the law that allows them should be sentenced to prison for the time equally of all time wasted for all Swedes. That would probably be something like almost a million years. The best punishment for everyone driving thoses is that when they get a real car they get to waste time behind the slow cars for the rest of their life.
@henryandersson7141
@henryandersson7141 Год назад
Det är ju inte ungdomarna som vill köra 30. Det är lagstiftaren, som inte fattat hur behovet ser ut. Många tror på mopedbilen, men jag släpper aldrig i helvetet ut min dotter i en sån. En glasslåda är ju säkrare... Höjd hastighetsgräns skulle minska problemet, eller sänkt ålder för B-kortet, men jag är rädd för att det är för många tomtar som tror att kollektivtrafiken ska lösa problemet - vilket innebär att ingenting händer...
@XofHope
@XofHope Год назад
What a great way to screw up traffic! I hope they're not allowed on main roads (but probably are). Also, for a country that's so environmentally conscious, this makes no sense at all. All this cars going at such a slow pace in low gear, so much unnecessary emission of gases!
@elvinhaak
@elvinhaak Год назад
Better then those stupid 'brommobiels' that are now in our country (Netherlands). It used to be possible to convert old cars to slow-driving ones here too but I believe that is not possible anymore since about 15-20 years now. I wanted to convert my old van to this. It would mean replacing some gears to slow it down but still have enough power to drive with it. I think it is way more economically and also envirenmently friendly to be able to convert cars this way: you really wear a car out to its end and give it a slow end-of-life. Of course, not on the higway but small roads, ok! Now here we have a lot of those car-like things with small, smelly motors that are really not made up to the task of the weight and have problems with the motor, brakes and all other parts a lot simply they need to be like a lightweight motorbike (
@jameswarner7435
@jameswarner7435 Год назад
I love it. We use the exact same triangular "slow moving vehicle" sign here in the states. Except here you only ever see them on the back of farm tractors, construction equipment, and the Amish folk's horse drawn buggies!
@ricmatify687
@ricmatify687 18 дней назад
You will have a 2 year driving experience and a car you can re-register as a normal car when you get your license at 18 years. So it has many advantages. The big downside is that they slow down traffic and create road trafficblocks due to their popularity. I hope they change so they are only allowed to drive on roads at a max of 50 km/h.
@petter5721
@petter5721 Год назад
They learn mechanics too 👍🏻
@testcardsandmore1231
@testcardsandmore1231 Год назад
No they don't, not anymore.
@petter5721
@petter5721 3 месяца назад
Well they work on their cars 😀
@mbak7801
@mbak7801 Год назад
BTW. Volvo is a wholly owned Chinese company. That aside as long as these vehicles do not have driving licence requirements (if they do then get rid of the rule) then a drunk driver or one who habitually speeds loses their ability to drive their big Volvo but have to drive for a year or more in a slow old tractor with a big red triangle on it. The car of shame :-).
@raisagorbachov
@raisagorbachov Год назад
I think these days, electric golf carts like the Citroen Ami make more sense for slow-driving vehciles.
@perisraelsson221
@perisraelsson221 Год назад
Why not drive mopeds instead of big bulky cars...?
@henningfilms
@henningfilms 24 дня назад
@@perisraelsson221 Mopeds are not as safe for the driver, you can't transport as much stuff, in bad weather you can still get around, and it's just fun to have a car to tinker with.
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