Why This City is Building a Controversial 9BN Dollar Tunnel underneath its City Center 

Man has become so good he is playing irl

I thought this was a B1M Video at first, nice

On one hand, I'm plagued by this situation on a daily basis. On the other hand it is funny, that after 15 years of arrogantly laughing about Stuttgart the Bavarians screw up their own mega rail project so badly.

So you are becoming an irl urbanist channel now? Nice evolution 👌🏻

While the Ringbahn is also a valid idea that should probably be built, I feel like the second trunk route is more important. Building a loop would allow for some new journeys and probably alleviate some pressure off the transfer stations, but it wouldn’t allow for a higher frequency on the outer branches of the network, which is the point of creating more core capacity. Every 20 with likely delays in the core or every 15 minutes with more reliability is a huge difference. The ring would probably still be built, because it connects an otherwise quite poorly connected part of the city to the network, but it’s going to feel much different then the Berlin ring Bahn with it‘s many transfer stations.

Your arrival into Urban Planning YT is most welcomed!!!

While I agree the core needs an upgrade just looking at the maps you showed highlights the obvious flaw in the system. Everyone on one of the branches has to go to the core before they can access a neighbouring branch. Therefore, I'd suggest connecting the branches with a circle or something further out would make the network better to use and alleviate congestion in the core.

Love the try at something new! Interesting topic, good explination, funny jokes. Keep it up!

This reminds me of the "citybanan" project in Stockholm that was completed in 2017 after 8 years of work. It costed 20 billion SEK ~ 1.79 billion €

love this type of videos coming from you!

I love Munich been a few times and it’s so nice having trains that run properly compared to the uk. Whilst visiting I found myself cycling most of the time

This channel is now the B1(mperatur)M

This is a beautiful evolution of your channel. ❤

nice video and cool new format, would enjoy more videos like this

Funny thing, people in Brazil always complain about how construction works always complain about the delays on building subways here and use Germany as an good example of working on time, but apparently delays and costs overruns became a global problem in any place but China. 2037 completion date is crazy. São Paulo line 4 took 14 years to be built and it was a scandal. Imagine 20 years to built a shorter route. How the world got so bad at building? It’s crazy. By the way, great video Imperatur. I follow you because Cities Skylines and thought it was an B1M video, but as always you’re bringing great content. Keep it up.

Hey Imperatur! Firstly I just wanted to say thank you so much for branching out your content! I love CS, but this urban infrastructure content is my next favorite, so I am happy that I can find both with you! Secondly, I just wanted to say again that your English is great and I am so happy that your confidence continues to grow! #fuckthehaters

I've been following this project on and off for a while but there's not much info on it in English so thanks for making this video! I love Munich and would love to visit it again.

Neat! Love these kinds of videos.

This was so good! Didn't even realize I was watching a cs content creator until the last moment - fully engaging!

Please, more videos like this!

Great video.

As a German, it’s very funny to hear how you’re spelling the names 😂😂

Amazing video! Really reminds me of B1M videos in best way possible

Should be noted that barcelona has entirely abandoned the model, in the stations that maintain the layout, the doors open simultaneously and there's nothing to indicate which side is for which

Interesting, you can keep going with some other projects in Germany if you have the will. Danke!

Nice you try something diffrent, I like it!

Well done 👍

I thought I was watching the B1M here, very well made video 👍

One of the main reasons this got so expensive beyond the usual problems is that the planning was scandalously bad. They "overlooked" that if you got a lot of people deep underground you need emergency exists to get them out. They just "assumed" some fire escape shafts would be good enough, until a closer study said - nope, that's too far down. So they basically need a second tunnel just as an emergency escape, which meant re-doing the planning while the project was already under construction causing delays and extra costs. It's also been very obvious that the Bavarian state government delayed this getting out conveniently until after elections at that time ... As for the concept per se; it's of course very difficult to judge these projects from a non-expert perspective. But it seems to me that both an expansion of the Stammstrecke, the core route, and the circle line are necessary. So I wouldn't say the project is bad in principle. However, the cost is immense, and ... under those circumstances it's difficult to say whether this is the best use of such a massive chunk of money. More radical ideas that might have required taking space from roads and running aboveground weren't even seriously looked at because of course such a thing is politically impossible. Thus everyone gets to pay the bill to put infrastructure underground - well, train infrastructure. Cars can stay in the city aboveground, "obviously".

Love this video

Very interesting. I didn't know that. I'm impressed that the B1M hasn't covered this topic already. But there are some parallels in the style to their videos 😁. My first thought was why aren't they building a circular line around Munich. I am sure that most of the people have their destination in another suburb and not in the city center.

I have so much thirst for English-speaking non-Anglosaxon creators bringing new perspectives into this world. Especially with transit it feels like North American ideas get way more space than what they deserve in a global world so any effort to balance this is more than welcome. Thank you for this video.

Nice!!

Great new format! Would be cool to balance this with your regular CS content

Impressive

Love this! Please post more about Germany’s infrastructure projects!

Can you make a Video that explains the Dutch Railway and/or the Berlin Stadtbahn? Much love❤

I had no idea that there was such a project in Munich. Very interesting!. Seems similar to Citybanan in Stockholm albeit at a much larger scale and clearly not the first of its kind in Munich.

Great video! Bro struggled to decide whether to pronounce station names like a German or an American - though I can relate to the struggle. 😅

In Britain we complained about the cost of the "Cross Rail" project, now known as the Elizabeth Line. Generally it has turned out to be a huge success with higher passenger numbers than expected. Some of the interchanges are truly ingenious, for example, at Barbican station to get from the old Northern Line to the Elizabeth line, one gets to ride on an elevator (lift) that moves up and down diagonally. The aesthetics are also far better than expected. Do take a ride on the Elizabeth Line and see for yourselves.

The German S bahn acts like the Thameslink trains in London 😁

wurde toll wenn sie mehr irl stadtplannung videos macht

Great Video, I dont know much about germany

You think they would have learned from the Stuttgart 21 desaster with the massive delays and issues which came with it. This is only for S-Bahn now in Munich but has the same challenges - a delay by 9 years :D and getting a new tunnel is a huge strain for everyone living in these areas. I did it here in Stuttgart and it often was a nightmare with countless sleepless months. Good luck in the next 15 - 20 years ^^

Very interesting content, while CS2 is still not fixed, and CS1 doesn't really feel like going back after you've met CS2. I am very fond of urban planning and public transport networks so I love that projects are made.

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Yeah, shoulda make the south-rail-ring Sbahn-compatible.

I use these trains every day. This week the train has been very time 5 minutes late or the train wasn´t there

Never knew Cities Skylines II look this good.

B1M Thumbnail :D

I dont get, why they havent started building the circular line instead. 9 bn Euro for no new routes, just a second bottleneck. It seems like the, wanted a stupid-ass prestige project, which unfortunately is very typical for the bavarian government.

And why they don’t build more horizontal lines out of the center, that way many people that doesn’t need to cross through the center won’t do it

0:31 my hood! 😄

i know nothing about this topic so excuse me if i'm saying something stupid, but why are they running ALL cross-city trains through this corridor in the first place? on the maps you show, isn't there a very visible set of tracks between Heimeranplatz and Ostbahnhopf? it might provide less connections with the U-bahn but it's an obvious way to make the network less centralized and less saturated for virtually 0€

I thought about D5 in Moscow ffs the difference is that I'm not sure if D5 will get its deep tunner underneath the city center

In Moscow we have a similar project, line D5 linking two terminus stations underground. I hope it will cost not much higher than exploration of Mars program.

Kind of like the new Elizabeth Line in London.

The issue with houses in the US is that they’re not built with adequate quality simply because nobody cares about whether it’s in good condition for 10 years or 50 years. People will probably move out anyway after 10 years.

This is good. I thought the tunnel was going to be a car tunnel.

Do you know how many kilometres is the new tunnel?

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Meanwhile when Moscow had a similar problems: «WE NEED MORE RINGS!» Seriously guys. Does no one there understands the magic of rings?

Cool video, has a @TheB1M feel to it ... and much less ads

"The budget skyrocketed" ... yeah, I get that, unique infrastructure projects are almost impossible to predict as you have no real reference for it "Completion has also been postponed several times" ... yeah, I get that, complex project can add a year or 2 to 3 easily ... "until 2037 " ... what? How could they get that sooo wrong.

im a simple man if i see imperatur oder AverageRob i like

More like this about other cities

I just think that its a missed opportunity to build a second inner City Route with different stops. Like they did in Hamburg

Germany - a country with beer culture...I feel there is something missing

An interesting project. I just hope it won't share the same fate as Stuttgart project or Berlin's Brandenburg ^_^

You should start a separate channel about infrastructure

3:39, 3:52 Man, you're already playing Cities Skylines with irl Munich! How did you get to be a god? 😉

at first i thought this was a The B1M video lmao

a fellow B1M enjoyer

2037, wow!

I absolutely cannot understand why they build it parallel to the old route. It would be much better if there was a second route further away serving other parts and with other interchanges that would lead to less crowding at the current ones. Flawed from the very beginning.

Munich mentioned!!!!! O ZAPFT 'IS!!!!

Hmm, Shinjuku railway station has 53 platforms, so I don't like your platform statistics :-) Sure the "core" station has "only" 35, but I think it is bit weird to discount the others, simply because they are at different levels, and operated by different people, etc.: when a station gets that big it is just not feasible to have "one" terminal, any more than a large airport does, and yet nobody refers to Frankfurt terminal 2 as a separate airport from Frankfurt terminal 1. But in any case, even if you do, it just shows how irrelevant platform count is as a statistic, given Shinjuku has "less platforms" than Munich, and yet serves a whopping 8 times as many people each day. It's all about passenger movements, after all, not how much space you take up!

German Geoff Marshall

Now recreate it in CS1 😁

make this new tunnel in your city in cities skylines

Ah yes, a B1M style thumbnail :P

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kommst du aus deutschland ?

To be fair munic woud allso newd a north suth reailrout snf

from 2028 to 2037??!??!?

Okay I see you impera1m

why do you pronounce the names wrong even though you obviously speak german? :D

At first I thought I would be watching a B1M video 😅 Nice job! Good pronunciation of German names!

Warum sprichst du die deutschen Wörter englisch aus? Finde es authentischer, wenn du die deutschen Namen auch deutsch aussprichst :)

dont do core -routes - do tangents - dont make lines depend on each other which is the core problem which is not solved here but more of the same-stupid-idea.

I thought this was a B1M video at first lol