Why this DESTROYS the Apollo Twin, for $400 Less! 

and shady business practices

Antelope tried to rip me off with an offer for a free modeling mic with purchase that they never intended on providing. Never again. There's a reason Romania isn't known for its honest business practices.

they are a scamming company whit good converters but poor drivers and firmware which means you cant work seriously mix and mastering whit out bugs latency and sync problems that disconnect the device from your computer whit no reason has for afx 2daw its pure scam that brings more latency to the game and in plus they have the native versions of the same plugins and wont give it to the afx2daw users that have been victims on the scam the only thing ok are the mic preamps

Antelope aftersale is non existent. If you have an issue, they will tell you to downgrade firmware and move on. If it doesn't work. They will tell you to downgrade even more. AFX2DAW is completely non functioning for WIndows users in most cases despite them charging 299 for it. On the ZenQ, there is an issue where most compressor plugins will stop working after a few moments and sometimes it produces a loud beep when the plugins fail as well. Still hasn't been fixed after more than a year. The hardware might be solid. But the software and the aftersales is anything but. Also don't confuse the realtime AFX which runs on the DSP with the regular AFX plugins which don't run on the DSP and you don't need any special interface for. When you buy one, you don't get the other.

It's 1 thing to say you agree with others saying that their support is "terrible" but you don't give any examples I'm sure just like any business charging out the behind for audio products (that are not expensive to make) there is some "shadyness" but at least stat your experience (albeit one sided) so I can judge based on that rather than, Source; trust me bro

@@Notinserviceij Not sure why my original reply was removed (or maybe it's just me who can't see it anymore?) but I can give you examples if you want. Coming from someone who generally loves their hardware but still wouldn't promote it to anyone. - All their firmware 'fixes' when you have an issue with firmware of an interface are (in order): downgrade firmware, reinstall firmware, reinstall downgraded firmware, reinstall your computer OS (even tho it's a hardware firmware issue), send device for repair but get the same device back but with firmware upgraded firmware which they told you to downgrade. After that, it's your fault or you get ghosted. -Their AFX2DAW on their USB interfaces are advertised to work and you are able to buy a license for it. But it will barely work. As in, mostly the software crashes the interface the moment you load the VST. -There are a lot of issues with their AFX plugins for years now and they haven't been fixed or even updated and most of it gets ignored. And this isn't just me. You'll find a lot of people having give up on their interfaces. Especially those who bought it specifically for the DSP processing. I still run Antelope because their routing is fantastically deep and complicated and they do sound good. But people have to know what they are getting into.

@@NotinserviceijIt takes 10 seconds to hit google and find another 100 reviews talking about their bricked, disconnecting Antelope devices. You won’t find sources because links aren’t allowed in these comments.

@@Notinserviceij Or you could get over yourself, and just ask about the specific incident, lol.

Doh!!! Forgot to check that off. Fixed! Thanks for the heads up!

@@SpectreSoundStudios 🤨🤨📸💥

Having to warn people about paid promotion has never bothered me, and I never understood why it should be anyone's problem. . This video was perfect .

@@miguelluigisantoslopes1528 thanks for the random input, but if you're doing paid promotion, you declare it's paid promotion. It's kind legally binding, y'know?

@@miguelluigisantoslopes1528 Because some people are not honest, and when a person might have a monetary reason to not want to disparage a product, the consumer might want to be aware of that fact.

It’s not a review it’s a paid advert

I'd say try rolling back to a previous bundle. Oddly enough for my Zen Q, it was the Antelope Launcher that was bugged, but the device and driver was perfectly fine.

I’ll be sure to tell Glan next time I see him! :)

My AF3 is in and out of mine.

I connect my Kemper via SPDIF

I have a Helix LT. How can I connect to S/PDIF and what are the benefits?

Yep FM9 here been axe fx spdiffing since 2016 and wouldn’t ever change it. No spdif no purchase.

@@KPG76 what time zone are you in the customer service only responds at 4 am for me

@@joehernandez2021 UTC+2 or UTC +3 in daylight saving time.

I only ever used a Mac with the Zen Go I had that broke down. Sounds like you don’t have any actual data

@@JoeJoel haha how is not knowing about your 1 case mean I have no data? I didn’t claim that no apple user has ever had issues did I?! What a ridiculous statement.

Yes we do need a comparison. In my country the antelope Quadro is placed near the id44 in price. I ordered the Quadro, so I'll let ya know if I have any issues, that people say online. I hope they don't disappoint! 😥

I'd stick with Audient as well. It's tried and true. Then rme is amazing with their drivers.

In a world where the RME Babyface exists, it’s hard to justify literally anything else in the sub-$1k market

Recently downscaled to a Audient iD14 MKII since I don’t need much when the bigger studio/live rack isn’t turned on. Even the cheap Audient interfaces deliever.

@@JoeBaermann They upped the specs on the MKII stuff, converters, SNR etc, they do a great job.

RME is just made for a very long term. Everyone who has RME stuff loves RME. They still have stuff from 2010 or whatever and are still happy, including low latencies and phenomenal drivers still being updated for the old hardware.

It’s coming

Just came here to say the same! I would love to see a comparison between these and a scarlett 2i2 3rd gen It would be great if we could get a blind test as well. That would help shut up some gear purists.

@@EXPLICITBG Can you provide a link to a blind test like you are recommending? I'd like to see how its all set up in an actual test environment. I'm thinking of doing some blind testing myself, but if its not set up right, it will be a waste of time.

@@AT-wl9yq I haven’t seen one properly done yet.

Mid for a studio with a the money for a Neve console.. not really Mid monitors in general... just in relativity

Go for Audient or RME though. Better companies and support.

​@@QuickQuipsI'm using Audient id44 and I'm not that happy with it. I find myself missing the pre's etc on my older interface which is out of production now. I've tried RME but a lower model and I didn't like the breakout cable which had really thin XLR wire which can't be good for the signal. But a bigger RME with on-board XLR does interest me.

​​@@QuickQuipsbtw perhaps Glenn should add this to reviews: Ask questions via whatever setup Antelope or XYZ company has for user tech support. See how long it takes for support to respond.

RME if you can afford the extra cost. The difference is huge.

I own an orion studio synergy core and it was the best decision ever. Everything else in this price range is far behind it by miles, sound quality, connectivity and also the software once you get use to its workflow, everthing else seems very restricting

Why Sweetwater stopped carrying the brand. Either Glenn didn’t do any research or the $$$ made it worth it to him. haha

@@jonkuenningwow. Didn’t realize Sweetwater had quit carrying them. But I obviously wasn’t the only one having issues. Seems a shame. It was a good sounding box. But CS is more important than that.

Yeah. Sound quality and build quality were on par with UA. But that’s meaningless if the software doesn’t work and there’s no support in fixing it. Another stupid quirk (maybe this has changed) but you had to be connected to the internet at all times for it to work. Never understood why they didn’t have an offline registration like utilizing ilok or as UA does use the unit itself as a big ilok type device.

Sweetwater no longer carries Antelope products. That speaks volumes.

It's the DSP. But I own an iD24 and won't change it for a Zen.

The reason you buy units like these is because they will offload plugins to run on the device using dedicated processors, so it reduces cpu load on your computer. It made sense at the time, because it was the 2000's and early 2010s, and computers were maybe dual core, and much slower, for much of the time. and if you're spending that much to run plugins, why not build a nice interface as well? M4 is only an interface, no offboard processing.

The thing I don't understand is why you would buy one today, when you get more bang for your buck spending that money on the PC and you can get more than enough processing power to handle every plugin you want to throw at things with cores to spare.

@@cthalupa6879 if you’ve already heavily invested in their ecosystem. But yeah, I’d buy that m4 over an apollo

this one does

Their software is pretty terrible unfortunately

They absolutely have a reputation. Sweetwater even stopped selling them, it was so bad.

If the product is great, you should never have to contact customer service and find out how good or bad it is. Companies with great customer service might need it. If Antelope products are problematic and they don't have good customer service, then that's a huge issue.

@MichaelSheaAudio that's the problem the products don't always work. I own a zen studio plus and they took it off they're supported devices after 16 months. They don't even stand by the products they make

Can confirm. Awful quality control, awful drivers, awful firmware updates.

@@joehernandez2021 A 16 month lifespan is criminal.

Except for ? Twin =2 Solo =1