Why This Doctor Is Trying To Sue Me 

Yeah😂😂

Didn't Don McMillan (the engineer comedian guy) do a sketch which basically made this point as a joke

That was a funny line (I type while smoking)

@@joeslater2390how are your lungs?

​@@noob-s7zProbably black. I've had a good few addictions and even overcame an opiate addiction but Idk if ill ever be able to stop smoking.... Done it since I was 12 and once you're hooked you'll see that every morning it's one of the first things you look forward to. It doesn't matter how I'm feeling or doing in life, my body will crave the nicotine. The death rate is certainly a good reminder that we should eventually stop...

And explain again why it is wrong :)

Legal Eagle collab if necessary?

What a PR disaster from this other doctor. His lawyers need to tell him to STFU.

Doc Mike's response is: bring it on, sue me. F around and find out.

@@joshwarrey3728 that, also prepare for the PR disaster

Cease and desist? more like cease and dentist

The confusion you're having is because Dr Mike is knowingly misrepresenting what Dr Gundry said. He knows Dr Gundry was not referencing smoking Cigarettes, but referencing the Kitavan Community (on the island of Kitava) - Whom are daily smokers and smoke imported black or home-grown tobacco... Not Cigarettes

​@lastfreemen He clearly was referencing smoking cigarettes in this video AND in the podcast. If he felt misrepresented why continue with a smile? He knew what he was doing and you have been duped by big words. Congratulations.

@@CM-iz5ny What big words are you talking about? 😂 Mike has clipped it so you don't see the context in which the topic originated 🤦

@@lastfreemen Are you dense? WATCH THE PODCAST! nothing was taken out of context.

My favorite part of all this is that now Dr Gundry's lawyers are claiming they never sent Dr Mike a Cease and desist. When pushed further about it by an outlet they later claimed the letter technically wasn't a cease and desist, it was just asking him to take the video down, and then lied about Dr Mike editing the clip even though he didn't...

He's gets his way so much when somome actually disagrees with him he throws a fit... You know my four year old throws a fit when he doesn't get his way.

To be fair, it was a takedown of the clip, not the whole podcast.. but I agree with your general annoyance and implied eye roll.

He cites studies on nicotinic acid, which is niacin (vitamin B3), not nicotine and barely present in cigarettes. It’s funny b/c we call it niacin today due to FDA thought people might confuse it with nicotine - history lessons even undergrads should know. His team might have known better lol

This guy is definitely hiding something, trying to make unsubstantiated claims. These absurd but hilarious claims, equivalent to saying "drinking cyanide is the best way to cure your cancer" and "eating grapes will make your d**k smaller" is really just a wtf.

“Can’t handle the heat I guess” Didn’t want the smoke was right there! But yes I agree

It just sounds like dr. Grundy is just dangerous. The way he talks in the other clips with the people who don't challenge him, sounds as if he knows people are becoming less and less informed and he's praying upon it.

Insane right🤯

This was a Covid talking point too. Several people in the medical community definitively had some divisions among them.

Eh, not really, at least not anymore. We've seen so many similar situations of slapsuits and people threatening legal action to silence people.

We live in a society. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

It's nice to see an interview host who actually challenges some of his guests' views now and again when allowed onto his platform and given access to his wider audience instead of the complacent Joe Rogan fawn-response we've gotten so used to. Accountability and integrity, the true show of a backbone.

Gundry argues like those chronically online basement dwellers on Reddit, X/Twitter and Tumblr 😂🤣😂🤣

This is literally how toddlers argue it’s so funny lol

@@mollusckscramp4124 that’s honestly valid tho

The confusion you're having is because Dr Mike is knowingly misrepresenting what Dr Gundry said. He knows Dr Gundry was not referencing smoking Cigarettes, but referencing the Kitavan Community (on the island of Kitava) - Whom are daily smokers and smoke imported black or home-grown tobacco... Not Cigarettes

I'm pretty sure that's what killed my grandma, she still smoked while on oxygen, and even when my grandfather had lung cancer

There was more nuance to his point than him just saying, "smoking makes you live longer." He specifcally argued that it could make people live longer if they were intaking enough vitamin C with perhaps getting more of the right vitamins and minerals. Dr. Mike's video of what Dr. Gundry said was misleading.

@@josephmoore5949Don’t defend that hack’s nonsense jfc

@@josephmoore5949 The full video of Gundry's remarks was posted. If anything he said was misleading, it was entirely on HIM making those statements.

​@@josephmoore5949look at the gundry simp. the man made enough statements that suggest he *is* linking smoking and living longer. implicitly. which maybe too much for your small brain to handle

@@PokemonGoTrainerUKit is defending what actually happened. Truth above all else. Gundry may be a quack but he was really clear, smoking and tobacco were unhealthy, he kept trying to explain it was the nicotine that was helpful to the mitochondria. I don’t know if that is true, but the truth is that was the conservation. Dr Mike needed to show studies nicotine was bad for us, otherwise Dr Gundry walks around saying he was misrepresented, because he was very clear, smoking and tobacco was not healthy.

That’s not misinformation that’s disinformation

Well, Gundry's got to make it look like he's fighting heroically against the "secret-keepers" like Dr. Mike. If he acted ethically, many of his followers would take that as a "sign of weakness."

Sounds too tRumpish for me

😅​@@junglestickss

this Hollywood actor doctor mike is a grifter

@b.thompson9176 Oh, how absolutely horrific!

okay, how the hell do you vomit up your ESOPHAGUS??? thats not just horrific, that sounds straight out of a horror film, like there is no way thats real (reaction, not arguing your story is fake)

@fusionwing4208 I totally understand! This wasn't shared with me until my dad passed away last year, as it deeply affected him and his fear of a painful death. Thankfully for him, dad wasn't in any pain. But what I'll always wonder is why the ambulance crew didn't notice that crucial detail on the carpet.

please know you don't have to say things like this to make your point...

Sorry for your loss

A Continue and Elaborate? He did a Continue and Elaborate, lol!

I think we just need to start calling the opposite to a Cease and Desist a "Pee & Woop."

​@@KMarienI think it would be a continue and persist.

An Anti-SLAPP motion if Dr. Mike lives in an Anti-SLAPP state.

@@experimental605YES I LOVE THIS

I wish I understood some of these words, but it mostly just shows how lucky I am to not have to deal with these issues

My grandma on my mom's side chainsmoked for decades, and only quit when my maternal grandpa died of lung cancer. She lived to be 90 years old, though she did die to dementia, which she only started showing the symptoms of after a stroke she had earlier that year. She had the stroke in January 2021 and died December that same year.

Smoking has a medical use you know; shortens the time you have to be exposed to TikTok. All jokes aside, smoking does help IBS symptoms, but the benefit does not outweigh the risk.

@@kurooitami Is it the smoking or the relaxation from a calming activity? I've not heard of this connection before.

@NikkiBudders it is both the habit (relaxing, taking some time off from others and things), but mostly chemical; it is bowel stimulating. A cig and a coffee in the morning was my routine, took me some time to adjust.

Best response lol

I can confirm in my family, all thr smokers got cancer and died in their 60s... versus those who are non who are in their 70s and 80s.

Irresponsible driving habits lower ones risk of developing Alzheimer’s

Apparently Dr Gundry can! Edit: not saying Gundry is right. Just saying he’ll argue it even if he is wrong.

Invading people's homes in Texas lowers the risks of developing Alzheimer's!

Here here!

Reminds me of Trump

Y r u gae? Who says I'm gae? U r gae.

i mean, he did give a reason why. the reason wasn't valid but he still did give one

Congratulations? ​@@EpicDrew15

Gundry might as well say "trust me bro"🙄

That's one clip from the whole thing, and as he said the whole podcast kept going back to the subject. On the other hand, the opposite argument is literally "the sky is pink and elephants fall from the sky," and offered no evidence, while there is a massive body of research dating to the early 19th Century that the sky is not pink and elephants do not fall from the sky. That even without controlling for income (as smokers have a higher median income and all the benefits of that money) smokers still die younger. Absurd claims do not merit good faith argument.

@Anti-Villain-Wolf, Thank you!

FR ppl js dont understand the fundamentals of debating anymore lol

That isn't an argument, that's just contradiction! An argument’s a collective series of statements to establish a definite proposition. Argument’s an intellectual process. Contradiction’s just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says.

A Cease and Desist Letter from his law firm literally means nothing. If it was a Cease and Desist Order from the courts that's a different matter entirely.

@@EndoftheBeginning17Exactly this, it’s an attempted scare tactic it has no legal bearing

this is why i still watch dr mike. he's not afraid to stand up for himself

@@EndoftheBeginning17 He's probably also already talked to his lawyer (LeagleEagle?) about this, before he made the video.

1k

Saying smoking lessens Parkinson's disease is like saying jumping out of planes without parachutes lessens cancer deaths. Yes, if you don't stop and realize that using a parachute lets you live long enough to possibly get a disease.

Proof?

@@brianarbenz1329 Rabies has a 100% success rate at preventing cancer

Dr. Mike had me cracking up! At that point, he was DONE.

​@jeffwhite3021 Is that you, Dr. Gundry?

Yeah, my grandpa didn't get dementia like his siblings because he died of heart disease when he was 49.

@@pcbassoon3892 sad, did he smoke?

Pwned

Hard to die of something when you're already dead💀

Any prevention would be better explored though nicotine patches rather than cigarettes anywho as well

Sorry for your loss Kristie 😢

My mom died at 62 of lung cancer also.

I had an aunt who died at 42.from lung cancer. She never got to meet my kids

@@fumbduck2720 if you smoke for decades, the damage is already done. Even if you quit

@@fumbduck2720smoking could cause damage to ur body and you’re immune system could weaken and u can die by things like the common cold.

My dads mom never smoked and lived to 96 with no cognitive decline. My mom's mom died at 84 from troath cancer and emphysema 10 years after she stopped smoking. No parkinsons or dementia though

I’m sorry to hear that

If she smoked more she would of lived, others must of tried to make her quit.

someone should have told Biden to smoke then!

So you're telling me that smoking prevents dementia and alzheimer's because it kills before they can get them? Whoo!

I am so sorry for your loss 😔🙏 All my condolences

My husbands aunt had the same situation. Cancer filled her entire body by 60, when we last saw her, she had a morphine drip in her neck, a stoma bag hanging off her abdomen, and a pack of cigarettes in her hand. In fairness to her, when it’s that far along, if it’s the one thing that brings you joy, I’m not going to police you. But that image honestly haunts me and even though I don’t smoke, I sure won’t be doing it now.

I'm so sorry for your aunt 😢 my condolences 🙏

Just had an aunt who use to smoke all the time pass away a few weeks ago.

i'm so sorry for your loss, my mom smokes and i would do anything to convince her to stop

The problem is, and I don’t follow Gundry, Dr Mike didn’t prove him wrong yet. Dr Gundry was very clear, it was the nicotine that was helpful for the mitochondria, and said the smoking and the tobacco were unhealthy. Dr Mike in this video only should smoking and tobacco as unhealthy, so Mike just proved they agree. Dr Mike needed to refute nicotine was why smoking was bad. That Nicotine was unhealthy. He didnt show one study about nicotine, so Dr Gundry will still be walking around saying he is right.

Don't read my name

@@hangtownranger The thing is that the statement he led with was that *smoking* could provide health benefits, not that nicotine acid consumed from smoking could provide health benefits. He then repeated the same statement multiple times, only mentioning nicotine acid once in the clip. It’s his wording and desire to invoke controversy that incriminated him, not misleading clipping by Dr. Mike’s team.

​@@hangtownrangerFeel free to try smoking and see how it works to "extend your life" based on Dr. Gundry's feelings. We can just just watch you and see how he lied to hurt you.

@@hangtownranger No, YOU'RE being intentionally misleading or ignorant, because Dr. Gundry SPECIFICALLY said it was "smoking" that did it. How about you blame him for being bad at communicating what he meant to say? He didn't say nicotine, he said smoking, if he had said JUST nicotine this would be a different conversation

My dad was a little more older when he got throat cancer, but I can definitely attest to the fact that it is a _horrible_ way to die. But… he didn’t get dementia or Parkinson’s or heart disease, etc., etc., etc. He also didn’t get to see his grandchild grow up or walk his daughter down the aisle or see the Perseids one last time or get to say goodbye to his sons, etc., etc. But hey, he didn’t get Parkinson’s, right?

@@mkuti-childress3625 I'm also sorry for your loss.

So you are saying smoking saved his life because he didn't get Parkinson's? Thanks

@@asjmpickleno - that’s not what he’s saying

@@asjmpickleI don't think you recognize irony.

For real I am itchin to go grab a box right now tbh I never knew I could enjoy ciggies and live long too

imagine a physician indirectly incouraging people to harm themselves. because that's what Gundry did. isn't that against the Hippocratic oath? "I will use those dietary regimens which will benefit my patients according to my greatest ability and judgment, and I will do no harm or injustice to them. Neither will I administer a poison to anybody when asked to do so, _nor will I suggest such a course_ ." Cigarette smoke is confirmed to be basically a poison. Gundry is suggesting (indirectly, but still) to take it, through enticing towards a longer lifespan.

I find it hard to believe it's not on purpose either, because he does it all the time. Like at another point in the interview he says you "might as well be eating a Hershey's chocolate bar" if you're eating a bowl of grapes because the sugar content is the same, and when it gets pointed out that grapes have more nutritional value for the amount of sugar they contain than a Hershey's bar he starts trying to make chocolate seem healthy by talking about extra dark chocolate, ignoring that Hershey's is milk chocolate and ignoring the criticism that some people will take that to mean "I might as well eat the Hershey's bar over the bowl of grapes" he simply replied "Might as well..." before later conceding that milk chocolate is in fact worse than eating a bowl of grapes. Still didn't seem interested in changing the way he put that messaging out though.

THIS

AYOOO!

YOOOOOO

YEAAAAAAAAAAAHHHH

Roasted

I know this is supposed to be serious but I can’t help but laugh. “People who wear helmets have a higher chance of getting an injury!” “Yeah, cus people who don’t wear them die instantly.”

I was looking for this comment! Gotta love survivorship bias

statistics needs to be taught at grade school level so folks are able to distinguish between these sorts of bogus claims for themselves. it's nice that we have doctor mike to help fend off the grifters; but really everyone should be equipped from young with the knowledge to parry such anti-intellectualism.

Yeah, it's all in the wording and what one takes away from it.

@@alveolate fr i was lucky to have a good stats teacher that showed us how stats can be mangled to push bs

There is a contrarian side to humanity, which is a reason why conspiracy theories get popular. Some people like to think that they found some secret that most of society doesn't know about. It's a powerful feeling. But pair this up with social media and internet, and it's poison. But where there is audience, there is money to be made. And thus the books promoting it. It's cornering a market.

So politicians and priests can and doctors can´t?

@@PROVOCATEURSK No, because when doctors do it is more dangerous than when politicians and priests do. Not that is good when pol and pri do it, but when a doc does its worse

Always take a cause and effect and consider the reverse. If people who smoke are less likely to have Parkinsons, then maybe an indicator for Parkinsons is inherent in something about not smoking.

@@PROVOCATEURSK nobody should, and no one here is suggesting otherwise. This video and the context of it is specifically about doctors and healthcare experts.

??? Didn’t the other doctor was the one that made the mistake? 😅

​@@rizaandroy4ever I think this guy is saying that when doctor mike makes mistakes he accepts them and corrects himself. He is not talking about this instance.

That's such a good way of putting it, your prof is very clever!

i like it

Thank you for sharing your profs wisdom

Isn't this? This was mainstream in the 70's when doctors, the supposed experts in the field, used to call 'smoking good for you'. Just like when "Doctor" Mike painted all the other doctors who spoke against c0v!d v@x's with facts. He called them nutters and was shilling hard. People have short memories, it's crazy.

In the words of Patrick Star: I can't see, it's too dark in here!

Such a great analogy !!! Demonstrate so well how you can twist numbers to make them say what you want when you refuse to follow a cause / consequence logic !! Hope many read this comment 👌🏻

30% of plane crashes are due to bad equipment so it’s safer to fly in a plane with bad equipment

This needs to be pinned!

THAT is the point. well said.

In Australia, we are encouraged to just keep on quitting. If you go back, set a date and attempt to give up. Just don't stop trying to quit eventually you will quit!

yeah most people relapse keep quitting its better than not trying ur on the correct path

Best of luck on quitting. My mom quit and she started when she was 14. You got this

All the best to you, friend. 🙏🏼

I really hope you are successful in your quitting journey. Imo with most healthy habits you feel better when you start incorporating them, even if they don't improve your lifespan.

You got this man my grandpa smoked for 50 years and quit and he's still alive to this day at the age of 83.

Best of luck to you! I'm trying to help a friend on the same journey as you. He can get down to that one last smoke and stay there for a very long time, but he hasn't been able to let go completely yet.... 🤞 ❤❤❤

This.

It must be considered malpractice already?! Anyone who knows the laws pretraining to the situation, please inform us because there needs to be some kind of change.

@@arttops2563 Gotta get LegalEagle and Ugo Lord on this.

​@@arttops2563sounds like a legal eagle collab is in order

Find the lawyer who knows how to make him release what companies he was invested in while making these claims

Yeah, that Doctor must never have heard of Ms Streisand before. This again proofs, being educated does not equal being smart...

Looook at me! Erm a Smrt!

Righy i should send them to all my exes jk

@@Skibbityboo0580 funny, smrt means death in a lot of Slavic languages.

That's not what the cease and desist is about. He isn't asking for the podcast to be removed or the information he said during it to be removed. The cease and desist is purely for the short which shows a small segment of the overall content in an out of context manner. In being out of context, the short makes it appear like that Doctor is recommending smoking which isn't the case, with Doctor Mike here acknowledging that this isn't the case. This is why the cease and desist has been made. The request isn't to stop Doctor Mike showing what he said during the interview, it's about stopping Doctor Mike taking what was said during the interview and displaying it in an out of context manner, as in doing so Doctor Mike created a misleading narrative that the other Doctor recommended smoking. While a fan of Doctor Mike myself, on this occasion, he is in the wrong, displaying the cease and desist as if it's a request for the misinformation to be hidden, when in truth it's a request for the false narrative - that this other Doctor recommends smoking - to be removed, through the removal of the short. The cease and desist was the correct course of action for the other Doctor to take here as he is being defamed by the negative impression the out of context short provides. (Note: The negative impression to the extent that would be defamatory is that of the short displaying the other Doctor as recommending smoking and has nothing to do with the misinformation provided by the other Doctor or any separate or additional negative impressions brought on from that misinformation).

Goddamn that's actually a fantastic point/comparison. I'm going to have to steal it when talking about nonsensical correlations lol

Exactly! Well said.

Dr. Gundry: some have survived skydives without a parachute. So skydivers don’t even need a parachutes.

Near 100% effective, with a slight possibility of landing on or in front of a car.

This is gold 😂

That's why you go with the research, because the peer reviewed research will be the closest to the 'truth'. It's not infallible, but nothing is.

So true. I told my doctor I’m ready to get off anti depressants and she recommended I NEVER go off them EVER

Imagine that..... Now apply that logic to twitter gender nonsense 🤷🏼

I’ve met more doctors I don’t trust than I do…. Seems like they barely even try to help you anyways

I mean, you should never fully trust a single source. Unless you look into both sides of an argument yourself, you should always take what others say with a grain of sault and assume it could be wrong. There's no such thing as an unbiased source. Even if I look into something myself, I always try to have the mindset that anything I'm reading could potentially be proven false.

At the same time he must believe what he says. Why else would he go on a podcast with two other doctors- he must’ve felt his argument held weight

Isn't the point of devils advocate to argue for a side you specifically don't believe, In order to foster better discussion? Naw, this guy doesn't care about that, he just wants money. Claiming devils advocate is giving way too much credit.

@@koda_pop Ideally but as it's in quotes I'm assuming that OP is referring to the common trend where someone looking for attention, usually due to narcissism, just shouts BS on the internet and whenever they get called out they just say they are being a "Devil's Advocate".

Dr. Mike is wrong. His argument is an ecological fallacy.

"Hey, I'm just asking questions!"

You are not wrong 🙃 But I have noted this as well! It’s disturbing.

He should correct himself on this, then.

@@TheCritizenhe ain’t wrong doe

@@TheCritizenthere is nothing for Dr Mike to correct in this area. Gundry is the one with some takes that need to align better with reality.

I used to trust Dr. Mike, until he was caught shilling for Fauci, despite all the clinical evidence disproving his claims. It was sad to see someone I thought was fairly unbiased (as unbiased as anyone truly can be) clearly either being paid or otherwise compensated to push a narrative that was actively harming people.

Those who survive smoking all their lives long enough to be in the relevant age group for dementia patents probably have very good genes, otherwise they wouldn't have survived smoking all their lives. So that basically means that it's their genes that prevent them from getting dementia and all the other diseases, not the smoking.

Literally not how statistics work if they are done correctly. Smoking could help with parkinsons and dementia, other side effects don't matter to those stats but you are all too slow to use logic and understand numbers and reality.

@@thomgizziz sure, buddy. everyone's wrong but you

This reminds me of an ex I had who told me that his gpa lived to be 90 while smoking so smoking couldn't be that big of a deal. He shut tf up after I asked him how much longed he thought his gpa could have lived if he hadn't smoked

@@LynetteTheRogue Somebody who lives to be 90 while smoking all their lives is so extraordinary that it's worth mentioning, while the people who die of lung cancer because they smoked all their lives (however long that was) are so common, that it's not noteworthy.

@@nevergiveup5939According to steven- “Just smoke.”

He'd probably be friends with Myron from Fresh and Fit

@@nevergiveup5939idk man, I ain’t the philosophical type of guy

​@@nevergiveup5939 The first question is up to you to decide The second: because nothing is eternal Third: No idea honestly

@@savitar9478 But you are a person who has life and you will

It seems like the cease and desist worked. Mike took down the video right? I can't find it anymore. Looks like the other guy won and got him to take it down.

@@StephenHayes-nm6df yet this one that includes the whole clip in question is still up. It's probably privated until the matter is settled. Almost anyone can issue a cease ava desist for any reason, whether it actually holds any water all depends

@@EpicWinNoob Yes. He was definitely required to upload the full video in context. That's what the guy wanted and so Mike had to do it.

That was because Mike was misinterpreting what he was saying.

I didn't watch the longer interview, but maybe what he's trying to say is that NICOTINE is what is good against Parkinson's and dementia, but the way it's administered is what will kill you. Wanted to add, satanicaries, that I agree with everything you've said but chose to tack my reply onto you because you're up top without dozens and dozens of replies. That cardiothoracic surgeon is nuts - he's giving himself so many future patients that he'll need to operate on for AAA and stents galore.

Just to clarify something, but the Hippocratic Oath which features the words "first do no harm" is actually not sworn by a lot of doctors - it depends on region and so on but a lot of the time there will be other codes that are sworn unto. Many doctors swear no such oath at all. The Hippocratic Oath is a stereotype a lot of the time, so it's not really a good example.

Sorry

All my condolences. ( I think thats how you write it)

My mother smoked and died at 62, from cancer. Her mother smoked and died at 68, from cancer. I don't smoke (other than the pack a day I second hand smoked throughout my childhood). I've already had cancer at 39, but am cancer free now. The cycle ends with me, I hope.

My grandmother died of emphysema. It was not a nice way to go at 64.

Amen...my mothers brother and my mother both died from lung cancer.

Given that the Medic was doing heart surgery in that scene, it's even more appropriate.

I would trust the Medic with my life. I wouldn't trust Dr. Gundry to file my paperwork, lol.

🤣🤣🤣I wonder if Dr. Gundry would like to become the guinea pig by taking up smoking. Although he may not have a risk for dementia or Parkinson's. Gundry is extremely irresponsible for saying all that.

😂😂😂😂stoooooppp noo

@@bebopcola2021 That's generous of you. I wouldn't trust Gundry to look after a house plant. A _plastic_ one.

Why are we here in this life, why do we die, what will happen to us after death.

Gyatt

That is actually sad.

Lmao one guy having existential crisis, the other is confused if this is ridiculous, and the other is just Gyatt

@@cutehunter9659 priorities 😭

There was more nuance to his point than him just saying "smoking is great, everybody go do it." The video Dr. Mike posted took what he said out of context and he has every right to protect his reputation.

@@josephmoore5949yeah, nice try, Gundry’s lawyer

What nuance? The dude basically said people who smoke live longer. He refused to even explain when Mike asked WHY during the podcast. So again, what nuance? ​@@josephmoore5949

@@josephmoore5949 Nuance my ass. Gundry outright explained the (made-up) benefits of smoking (Parkinson's disease and Alzheimer's disease), while confronting the host and the other guest with just a stern "you are wrong" dismissal while talking over them as loudly as he could. He made himself clear that he believes smoking is beneficial to one's health, and he is all for it.

​@@OrdinaryEXP "He made himself clear that he believes smoking is beneficial to one's health, and he is all for it." This is just completely made up. He said certain people lived long because they smoked because it was paired with other things. Now, you don't have to believe that's true and he admitted it was a theory, but he never said smoking is beneficial to one's health. You just lied. Plain and simple

He's actually correct with the cease and desist. If you re-listen to the section of this video where Doctor Mike addresses the content of the cease and desist, it is solely about the fact that the short - being out of context - portrays the other Doctor as recommending smoking, which he doesn't. He isn't saying "I don't want to be held responsible for my own words" he is saying, "Your short paints me in a false narrative suggesting I endorse smoking which I don't, take it down as it's harmful to me" He isn't asking for the podcast to be removed, or for the specific section of misinformation he said during the podcast to be removed; he only wants the short that falsely portrays him as recommending smoking removed, and he is correct to do so. I'm not sure why Doctor Mike glosses over this and focuses on the factuality of the information given by the other Doctor, but the incorrect information that was given by the other Doctor has absolutely nothing to do with the cease and desist. Given the content of the cease and desist, it's not an attempt to bully, silence or scare Doctor Mike, but instead the correct legal response to a form of defamation caused by an out of context short creating a misleading and false narrative. It would be right for Doctor Mike to, in this instance, remove the short as it is defamatory.

​@@kjono4611 It's not 'out of context' , Dr. 'Smoking helps you live longer' is just a bully who can't handle people disagreeing with him.

exactly cause nicotinic acid... isn’t nicotine, surprisingly Dr. Gundry didn't point that out

@@LabXperiment_ no it's not

@@NeoFryBoy typo

I graduated from high school. They didnt teach us that in chemistry class from what i can recall.😅 they didnt even teach us that when i took chemistry as my major in college..

I would expect this from a *doctor* who i presume graduated from a medical school

I have lost all respect for Gundry.

@@jimkelly4214 I never had any for him to begin with.

I smoked for 30 years and quit in 1997. Two years ago I developed COPD. I almost forgot the heart attack in 2010 ! Smoking will kill you.

You are still smoking? I quit in 2019 after 15 years and I've never felt better. But you and all current and former smokers know this feeling, there's a ticking clock for us. What will it bring, cancer, COPD, heart disease? How many years did we lose? If you're still smoking, please quit. There are alternatives that while not as healthy as pure fresh air, will cut out 90+% of the risk.

@@Nefville I’m still smoking because every single time someone tells me to quit, I have to do the opposite 🤷‍♂️🤷‍♂️

Dang!!!!

Thank you for commenting this! It definitely clears up what nicotinic acid is. It also makes me wonder if Gundry chose that term instead of niacin, knowing his audience will also assume its nicotine-related so it might improve his rhetoric. The hope is, as you pointed out, that he mixed their names up.

Thanks for this comment. People can have opinions about things outside their area of expertise but it doesn't mean they know what they are talking about. Big difference between a toxic alkaloid and a needed vitamin.

finally someone in the comments mentions this. niacin and nicotine are COMPLETELY DIFFERENT THINGS

I think I’m being really dumb, but how do fish smoke?

I hope we can

Yeah he scammed me out of $350 a couple years ago

@@charismatic9467 but kids need vaccines to easily prevent certain diseases?? what are you on about

​​@@charismatic9467do you not give your kids the measles v, or the chickenpox v? Your kid is required to have 15 different v's to even enter high school, and this was all pre pandemic, it's not knew information or policy. Did you know the military requires 35 different v's, including the latest one? Now why would the best military in the world want to hurt their soldiers?

@@charismatic9467 You're out of your god damned mind.

Which is why I will never listen to a thing Gundry says.

💯 Agree

Sadly where I live, even when they aren’t allowed to practice they still lecture/tour/post online

​@@user-bd7mo7mr6p yep, just look at "Dr" Phil. He ain't no board certified doctor and hasn't been for many years because he got up to some f*d up stuff & was told he needed to do some relearning before he could practice again. He didn't want to do he switched tracks.

depends if its a scientific peer reviewed paper, like for NATURE, or journal medicine, those will get heavily scrutinized. if the quack doctor, is publishing the paper in a sketchy magazine(pseudoscience) then there isnt much you can do against the paper. Or if hes putting up on his own blog, or another site, yea that isnt a source or evidence, and the bad thing is many low information people often believe blog sites.

Good comment (yours) 👍❤

@@nevergiveup5939 We don't know

Yeah this guy seems like those social media people who use bad press and controversy to increase their ratings coz ppl love to go against that stuff so it gets tons of hype

​@@nevergiveup5939answer- • life is like a decision game, we're here to be tested in different situations... • Every living thing in the world WILL face death, one way or another ... • we will come back to life to live forever in the afterlife which never ends wether in hell or in heaven

@@theparkourlady894 like a medical andrew tate

I hope he gets his license revoked.

Mike lost his integrity during plandemic.

agreed! peer review is such an important part of science and that includes medicine