Why Thrawn Respected Vader More Than Anyone Else in the Empire (Canon) 

Thanks for the Thrawn content... He and Count Dukoo are the best (In my opinion)

That's so great to hear, as Thrawn and Dooku are some of my favourite characters to explore! :) Thank you for watching.

@@starwarsreadingclub Ahhhh... I spelled Dooku wrong! 😂 My bad

and thanks in kind for the fantastic content SWRC. B) P.S. Total War Destroyer, I also have difficulties spelling, and sometimes the spell check likes to invert what I typed into something I did not want to imply, lol. It's cool, nobody is perfect. Thrawn, Dooku, Zawn, and other names really confuse the hell out of Grammarly, lol.

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Matthew Beck Yeah, but Thrawn only "trolled“ Vader because he wanted to get Anakin back. Hence why he actually likes Vader, he was once the guy that backed his blue ass on... Kashyyk?

True. I respect Aaron Rogers. And I hate him. BOO PACKERS! BOO!

I mean just because he respected him doesn’t mean they were friends. After all Thrawn respected some of his enemies

esteem for or a sense of the worth or excellence of a person, a personal quality or ability, or something considered as a manifestation of a personal quality or ability: this is the definition of respect it never says that you have to like he or she whom you respect

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I mean we kinda got that in thrawn alliances

Ft. Lekauf

I guarantee if anyone dose that the ( Fans will have to do it) bc if Disney dose ot they will fuck it up.

Imagine vader huming to the song why can we be frienda

Loyal and Loyaler

My God, that's a scary thought...

Vicenzo Stella more than when Fredo is in the cut?

Alex Macmillan utterly

I ship um

In book one of the Legends Thrawn trilogy (Heir to the Empire), the admiral under Thawn's command wonders what would have happened if Thrawn, who wanted to build a bigger fleet with the resources dedicated to the Death Star, had been in charge of the Imperial Navy's command and construction, instead of the superweapon-obsessed Emperor and the admiral-killing Vader. He believes that they might have destroyed the Rebels if only the Emperor had given Thrawn supreme authority over the Navy's resources and I have to agree with him. Edit: he also pondered what would have happened if Thrawn had been in command during the Battle of Endor, instead of the command structure-wrecking Vader.

FeanorBR Not Thrawn, he performs admirably everytime.

Can't be a racist if you hate everyone - Darth vader

He projects his self hatred equally.

Chis are decended from humans

It would be specist

Absolutely agree IO. I think the thing that really makes Thrawn that might go unnoticed is that he can only do what he does through the loyalty of those that are his subordinates. Some (most lol) of his methods are unconventional, so if they weren't loyal, he wouldn't be able to achieve the things he does. The Thrawn trilogy is a great example, same with Outbound Flight imo. Zahn has done a great job bringing this into Canon as well with Eli and Commodore Faro.

ImperialistOpinions I think intelligence more than anything.

ImperialistOpinions Your right, one of the most fantastic things about Thrawn is that he is one of the most admirable villains in the Star Wars universe!!

Thrawn was pretty harsh when incompetence was shown but rewarded competent practice. I remember in Zawn's original Thrawn Trilogy, a tractor beam officer on the Chimaera bumbled and let the Rebels get away. Thrawn had him executed on the spot due to his incompetence. Later on, something similar happened. Everybody on the bridge expected that new tractor beam officer to be executed, like what happened to the previous guy. Thrawn demanded to know how this happened. You see, Thrawn already knew the man's job but he needed to be clear the officer knew his. The man explained his actions, all he tried to do to capture the Rebels. And Thrawn concurred. All the actions the officer did were correct even though the end result was a failure. Thrawn instead promoted the man on the spot. Another thing I liked with Thrawn was that he was not fond of wasting Imperial resources, especially his men. Thrawn was the only major Imperial leader that garnered respect and true loyalty, and he himself was loyal to Palpatine's cause and the Galactic Empire. As for the comic page this video showed where Thrawn didn't like the idea of a singular mega weapon, it's a valid statement. How many ships could the Imperial Navy have had with the resources dumped into not one, but TWO Death Stars? Those beasts sucked away a lot of resources and men from the Empire. A larger Imperial Navy would have been better able to police the Empire and deal with threats. How many Star Destroyers could the navy have gotten for one Death Star?

Warmaker01 it wasn’t so much that the first tractor beam operator was incompetent that got him executed (he definitely was though!) But it was the fact the man refused to learn from his mistakes and even tried to redirect blame to someone else. Thrawn is completely fine with people failing in their duties, so long as they show that they are more than willing to learn from their mistakes and not repeat them. Here’s a quote from Thrawn himself that sums this up perfectly: “Anyone can make an error, ensign. But that error doesn’t become a mistake until you refuse to correct it.” In all honesty, Thrawn is the only imperial that I’d willingly serve under within the empire.

This was in The Last Command novel of the original Thrawn trilogy. A younger officer attempted a maneuver to try to capture Luke Skywalker with a novel use of the tractor beams, which ultimately failed. This is directly compared to a similar encounter in the first novel, Heir To The Empire, where another officer did some brain dead move and endangered the lives of other Imperials iirc. This was one of the few times Thrawn acted Vader-like and had the officer in the first novel executed. But because the young officer attempted something that was not covered in Imperial training manuals, despite it not working, Thrawn promoted him and tasked him with trying to make this attempted maneuver a functioning tactic to be used in future training doctrines. Pellaeon was there to witness this and that's when he realized 'Before this, our forces were willing to fight for him. Now, they will be willing to die for him'. That was also the moment I became a lifelong fan of Thrawn.

@@LedosKell Thrawn rewarded competence and initiative, which are very valuable things in an officer corps. He also encouraged being able to learn from mistakes, as being able to adapt the next time the same tactic is used against you is highly important. Thrawn definitely was not a man to throw away a resource like a competent officer simply due to one or two failures that were outside of their control.

@@LedosKell Additionally, I think that imp forced Luke to fuck up his hyperdrive to escape 🤔

Thrawn, you have an incredible brain.

@@darthplaguisthewise8985 i have heard the trajedy of darth plaguies the wise it wasnt a story the jedi told me

Thrawn, do i have your respect?

@@realahsokatano5046 Yes, it was a story that a man named Palpy told your master. Ah Sith Apprentices grow up so fast.

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I actually got a chill just thinking that.😨😨 The rebellion would have been crushed before it became Galaxy wide

True the rebellion woild have been beaten Black (Vader) and Blue (Thrawn aka Papa Smurf).

Add in others like Piett, Veers and Tarkin. Rebels only had Plot Armor going for them.

They actually did when Vader was still Anakin.

@@9f81rsd00 I wouldn't add Tarkin, the dude screwed up big time by blowing up Alderaan, but maybe Yularen instead.

Don't be too proud of the technological terror they constructed. The ability to destroy a planet is insignificant compared to the Force.

@@robertovaldivia1573 Don't try to frighten us with your sorcerer's ways Lord Valdivia.

Enough of this!

"Make a planet pull a houdini" 🤣😂😂🤣

"Ill make this planet... disappear" **waves hands and presses button** "Tada~! Its gone."

Sure? I am glad Vader never met a masochist. "Harder Daddy."

Speak for yourself. Choke, Sith-daddy, choke meeeeeeeeee

Paul Davidson but a Force choke is like an invisible hug.

@@ChiefderWahrheit until dorkly came

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Thrawn actually enjoys art because he feels it gives insight to people and it's culture. It's pretty noticeable in the books as he collects them or will make a remark that certain people have ties be it political or economical based on simple artwork. I think the thing Thrawn values greatly, maybe more than loyalty, is knowledge and will often go out of his way to collect it such as with the gravity well or watching how the enemy responses to an attack.

Second? ;(

@@joshuareed6894 But he said "Let them go. They've earned their victory." about the Rebels

Ahsoka Tano In my humble opinion I think it was the worst representation of him they kept emphasizing certain parts of his personality too much that made them a one dimensional character

@@christiannewaye7306I completely agree with that. Thrawn in the books is nothing compared to Thrawn in Rebels. Thrawn in Rebels was only thwarted truly by his subordinates. Every time he wanted to achieve something, his subordinates screwed up. But Thrawn in the books would have either anticipated his subordinates failure and acted accordingly or he would have had his subordinates learn from the experience. But even when I could see that an officer of his was going to disobey orders, Thrawn did not. Also Thrawn did not really inspire me in the TV show like he does in the books. In rebels he seems more like an intelligent guy, but in the books he seems like an observant character with many different motivations and thoughts. In Rebels it just feels like the classic 'Good Guys vs Bad Guy' trope. Nothing wrong with that might I add. It's just disappointing, that's all. It feels like a waste of a brilliant character.

Thrawn will the only character that reveal at Ezra that Darth Vader is Anakin just after the battle of Yavin 4 and Libération of Lothal

How do people love Thrawn this much? One note doesn’t even begin to describe him

@@countof3everybodyOD I disagree. Simply because he's a focused individual doesn't mean he's "one note". I actually think Zahn did a great job elevating the character in his newer books as well. You can see where he took specific criticisms people had of Thrawn in his Legends writing and directly translated that into added complexity and development of the character. Being someone who is routinized and has a personality that is dependable and even keel (ISTJ), I tend to appreciate the solidity of an individual even if there might be reasons why I disagree with some of their decisions. I would say Thrawn fits very well into that structure as a character. 😊

More like James Moriarty, but unlike the Napoleon of crime, he was a pragmatist rather than a sociopath.

He's basically what we see if Holmes and Sun Tzu (probably butchered that) got together in the SW universe, one was female, and they then had a baby.

SWLoreNerd55 cant wait to start hearing “no shit thrawn” when someone exclaims the obvious 😂

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Omg did this actually happen I have not read the book yet

@@MistressCheese Yeah.

@Scribbly I'd be careful with such speculations since we have little to no idea what Thrawn had in mind, plus he knew Anakin and was fully aware that he was Vader.

Yeah, Thrawn could probably pull it off if he made 100% sure to add the force as a variable. But of course Vader could always just end him at any moment if he senses Thrawn becoming a threat

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You too Lane, I appreciate it buddy!

we're going to need it

Thank you

Thanks and may the force be with you as well, always.

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Well more disagreed with then anything. Though Thrawn believed it to be his responsibility to make those whom served under him better he was ultimately under no illusions as to just what type of nepotistic, self serving, and incompetent fools tended to fill the Imperial officers corp and just how much better the Empire was without them.

i respected anakin, my master. i have nothing by disdain for vader

@@realahsokatano5046 but was i not the one who created anakin.

@@darthplaguisthewise8985 It's a huge misconception that you did.

Yeah sure plaguis , just dont drink too much. You could suffer a horrible betrayal.

Traitor!

E M TRAITOR!

@Blitzwing2011 lol they did name the kid Finn but not after the Star Wars character lol. I don't even think they watch Star Wars.

FN-2187 the human.

Fucking ewwwww.

Yes pleaseee

It's those two books and involves corpses ore in the tunnels right? I always felt that was so wasteful, next time grab th he cloning gear and clone embryos and save em for when you need allies more intelligent then yourself lol

I love that story arc, it felt Luke was really going active Thrawn's clone but the booby traps was going to kill them to quickly. The whole time I was reading the scene was " Why didn't he have a more advance A.I. running the place that could do Social Political Reasoning. If it did, then the room defenses would not have tried to kill the jedi or destroy the clone."

I liked most of the legends books I have read, but only 3 of the Disney canon books I have read I liked, 1 of which was Thrawn, the other 2 books were, Lords of the Sith by Paul S. Kemp and Tarkin by James Luceno, everything else I read wasn't that good, and all 3 of those authors wrote legends books that I really liked.

Crucible by Troy Denning is pretty good.

@@Tar-Numendil I have that one but I'm missing a lot of books between the end of Return of the Jedi and Crucible to read it.

@@EchthelionII Good Point. I read 2 of the Legacy of the Force books and 4 of the New Jedi Order books. Everything I didn't read I just read on Wookieepedia.

My favorite Star Wars book is either Star Wars: Death Troopers or Star Wars Dawn of the Jedi: Into the Void.

Most of humanity's biggest accomplishments were made from suffering and fear, like the pyramids or reaching the moon first out of fear of the Russians, I might be wrong correct me if so but from my point of view this is what I've gathered

@@boxybrown4278 wow thats deep

Boxy Brown it’s true, most of our advanced technology came from going into war. Look at world war 1 and two, their prime examples of what I’m talking about

The rebels won because Vader became Anakin again and threw the Emperor down a shaft to his death. An Empire without the Emperor OR his twisted machine right hand man...

@@boxybrown4278 i don't think that was fear, those slaves could have easily revolted and the race to the moon wasn't fear either. It's survival

its not that they didnt mind it being investigated, it was that from their point of view his repeated failed attempts looked like a waste of empire resources and the act of a man desperately trying to help his people.

Funny enough when the writers made thrawn, they heavily based many of his characteristics and command attributes on rommel.

I see you are a man of culture.

Tbf we don’t know how good Rommel was because he didn’t fight in the theatre that really tested military prowess-the eastern front. Herman Balck and Manstein were probably better than Rommel.

@@jebbush2527 tbh you're probably right XD, probably cause he was one of the highest rank general to apparently tho not really rebel against hitler. Also one of the few interesting stories to hear about from World War II, among many

@@jebbush2527 We know how good and brilliant of an officer he was, read about him and WW1.

Unfortunately, I don't think so. The good news is that they haven't shown themselves to shy away from Vader when it comes to comics. My hope is that even though his current Vader comic is coming to an end, a new one will emerge shortly. And hopefully set between Episode 5 and Episode 6 in my opinion. I wouldn't mind seeing some post-ESB Vader in the current Canon. :)

It's not canceled it's ending when it should.

@@schroedingersdog7965 same here!

he flew too close to the light

Okay...

@@JojoTheRed blargh.

More like a Arabian SS rise to power and became second-in-charge in SS's army

Yes.

He is kind of a dick. Just saying.

I don't know if this is still the case, but all the Star Wars comics I read as a kid were made by Dark Horse. Although this was well over a decade ago.

I chucked at the way he pronounces that word too.