Why Touch-Screen MacBooks are a Bad Idea 

I like how they use Riley for everything that has to do with making strange looking poses

A touchscreen computer makes Riley a productive boy. :)

As a digital artist, I’d kill for a 2-in-1 MacBook Pro. To be able to both sketch and do office work on a single Apple device with desktop software would be super convenient for me.

"What kind of monster puts the dock on the side?" - That would be me for the last 10 years, Hi.

That taped screen represents the kind of DIY spirit we all know and love from LMG

"What kind of monster puts the dock on the side of the screen." Me, a programmer, wanting as much vertical real estate as possible.

I'd just like iPadOS to not be a castrated OS and be able to do some actual development work on those beasts of machines.

I think Apple’s whole point is “if we give you an actually usable trackpad with gestures you don’t really need touch”. The trackpad already has tap, swipe, zoom, pinch, etc., and it does so perfectly. If I have the all the gestures I want in a more ergonomic position, there’s absolutely no need for a touchscreen. Personally, I use my MacBook Pro every day with a big screen plugged in and I can reach both monitors perfectly with my trackpad. I don’t even feel the need for a mouse... I only use it every many months when I have to use Blender or something else that is 3D related.

Now I understand what Linus means by, "We hired a guy with apple fans way of thinking." This kind of thinking wouldn't ever occurred for pc guy.

I like Jonathan. he's a fanboy but he has a good understanding of the brand ethos and he's capable of critical thinking. Great addition to the enterprise, Linus!

"We all know how Windows works" -- Apple dedicated RU-vid channel

The glamshots of the jankass setup had me rolling

The production quality of Mac Address is actually insane.

Me when Mac Address started: You have my curiosity. Me when I see the title of this video: Now you have my attention.

“Yes you can move the dock to the side of the screen, but what kind of monster does that.” Ouch.

The thing about touch is it's an option. It's nice to have when you need it, for example when doing CAD on the go in F360, you can properly move around it in 3d, in ways you can't with the touchpad. And just there the couple times you use it, I have an xps and rarely use it, but I get annoyed when using another laptop that doesn't, sometimes.

It's really nice to have someone explaining technology from an Mac perspective. On my Windows laptop, I frequently scroll through documents with the screen while using my computer on the couch. Also, I frequently turn my laptop into tablet more to draw some notes/ideas out. It's great to be able to work on one document where I can draw and type.

I find a touch screen useful for laptops, especially if I'm doing something that requires a lot of scrolling. Depending on how you're seated, having your arm resting on the surface in front of you and using your thumb to scroll (like you would on a phone) is far more comfortable than using the track pad. I don't use the touch screen super often on my laptop, but when I do, I'm glad it's there. It's one of those "better to have it and not need it than need it and not have it" type of things imo.

As a field service engineer, i love having a touch screen on my laptop. I use it mainly for touch to zoom for schematics and manuals. Admittedly, a very niche use case.

The presentation of this channel is on a whole other level. I don't even hesitate to click on the video when I receive its notification.

We need more 'Get a Mac" type skits featuring Jonathan and Riley! The synergy there is impeccable :D

That little round cursor on Ipad is the bane of my life

As someone who has a touchscreen laptop (XPS 15), whenever I borrow a friend's Mac I always get silently irritated by the lack of touch for things like browsing and opening files, especially with how unnecessarily enormous everything is on MacOS

Love the different storytelling format on this channel, and a great host too, enthusiastic and passionate about the brand but practical and understanding.

As someone who fanatically wipes his iPad multiple times a day, I died inside a little to see all that tape on the screen.

I'd like to think that muscle memory and years of habit are probably the major reasons he didn't actively use the touch screen more. Great vid nonetheless

I appreciate how well done the captions are. It helps out hearing impaired folks like me understand these videos to the fullest.

I am actually impressed by the production quality of this channel again and its prime techquickie approach of quick but jam packed with simple knowledge approach. Not a mac guy but this channel has my attention.

I'm an it tech and use a surface as my work laptop. While that device has many (many many many) shortcomings, the touchscreen is definitely a feature. Not having to switch between keyboards and mice whilst troubleshooting a users pc, or being able to scroll down an Ifixit guide and check my email without having to drop my tools is such a useful feature. Now I don't pretend to be a common use case, but the point I'm trying to make is that there are scenarios where having to switch to an iPad is so much less convenient than just having a touchscreen on a laptop. Windows laptops show that the addition of touchscreen isn't that expensive and the benefits to use cases like mine are enough that I put up with the many failings of my surface pro. Tldr if Mac makes a Mac book pro with a touchscreen I would use it.

Having a touch screen is something I never used until we went online. The laptop I have is a 2 in 1, and I got the pen. Once school went online, I started using the pen and touch screen for notes and homework I can never go back to not having it. Of course you could get an iPad and I’ve thought of it, but that’s an expensive purchase for what I’d use for RU-vid and homework/ notes

I only use the touch now and then to scroll and tap one or two things too, but that’s often enough that it’s frustrating when it’s gone

These videos are so beautifully shot and directed. I like the cinematography a lot more than the usual LTT style

I laughed so hard at that B-Roll and everything pertaining to the initial "shock" of the product. Well played Jonathan!!

0:43 One of the reasons why most Mac users don't really care much about touchscreens is because the trackpads on MacBooks are fantastic (the best in the market). Something you can't really say about most of windows laptops hence why they can't understand our perspective. Don't get me wrong, the addition of touchscreen would be cool but definitely not necessary.

I feel like the main argument is so that you can have one Apple device that can do the work of a tablet and laptop, for someone who doesn't even want to spend the Apple tax of just one product.

I genuinely appreciate Mac videos from a Mac perspective. I'm not a fanboy of either platform. I currently use, and will like continue to use, a windows machine for gaming, and a Mac for productivity and general use. However, it was nice to hear somebody really give some compelling reasons why touch is not coming to a Mac or MacBook. It really helps balance out the perspectives on this topic.

You haven't heard all of the arguments: touch closing the browser while my wife watches Netflix is a great pastime.

Those were very good points. The reason i want touchscreen I my laptop is because i don't want a second device like a tablet. But i agree. The majority of the reason i use the touchscreen are for those scrolling or my hands are up there moment. But not having them when you need it, it really takes away a lot from it.

His presentation style is on point, it's so entertaining to watch. Awesome channel!

"What kind of monster does that?" I put my dock/taskbar on the left on macOS/Windows... I'm the monster now.

last time i was this early, linus hadn't dropped a gpu

Having a touchscreen on a laptop is most useful when you have it on your lap. If you are in bed or on the couch using a laptop, you can type in a comfortable position then slide your fingers behind the screen to use your thumb to scroll just like a phone. It makes editing documents way more comfortable because scrolling up and down with your thumb is a far easier position for your hands than reaching down below the keyboard and scrolling with the tips of two fingers.

Love the production on these, feels like an episode of top gear or something. Keep em coming

Here’s a crazy thought: combine iPadOS and MacOS together to form a new OS that would support iPads and Macs…with those two products becoming more and more alike, sometimes I think it’s not too far fetched.

Great point(er) about the iPad OS cursor being blunt; always wondered why they just didn't make it a normal pointer

I have a touchscreen on my windows laptop. The only time I ever user it is when I touch it by accident trying to show someone something on my screen.

It's also that Windows has really good UI for touch. Fullscreening a window with a swipe works great (or half screening it). In the mousy desktop mode.

I find that a touchscreen has become second nature to me when I don't have a proper mouse, to the point that I've actually attempted to touch the screen on my brother's Macbook Pro when we were browsing what to watch on Netflix and when we were looking at Google Maps.

The intro is so great lol. Also I thought that the touch screen would be better suited for an iMac with the form factor of that weird surface studio so that you can touch directly on it

gotta love the phenomenal product shots

I like this guy!! Keep the videos coming bro

Excellent Point of View and Channel !!!

I have a touchscreen window laptop and I never touch the screen. Also, having a touchscreen on my desktop would just be barbaric.

A touchscreen computer makes Riley a productive boy.

I love how this video is so well made and how this new guy speaks.

This production quality is AMAZING

5:30 I feel personally attacked

I honestly love the dock on the side, I find it easier to scan and allows for more vertical screen real estate

The cool music with the DIY job hahahaha hilarious. Good vid cheers

I'm loving this channel. Please keep having Riley on for the goofs!

My sentiment is yes, the MacBook is a touchpad/mouse first device, but what could it hurt to have a touch screen as a second option, even if just for those specific times it would be convenient?

I just want to say that I really appreciate this channel. It’s a great addition to the LMG family.

I love touch options on my Laptop and will only purchase 2 in 1s for myself. Using the touch screen is not about using it all the time just when it makes sense. Reading a book or comic, using an app for a game EG: DND beyond. Being able to fold the laptop back and have the base and keyboard out of the way so I can use the space in front. 60-80% of the time is it not useful but I love having it for the situations it is and it is usually only $100 option.

Depends on the use case. In the work I do, lighting for events, touchscreens are king Check out lighting software like onyx or grandMA2 People use them (along side physical controls like buttons, rotary encoders and faders) to trigger colour cues, movement fx, switch views, trigger macros and other fanciful things in the heat of the moment at a gig. There’s barely any Mac based options for this kind of software and the lack of touch screens would be a contributing factor.

Touchscreens are so useful for both my drawing and CAD work, I really prefer swiping around my model instead of fighting with my mouse. In fact, on the occasions I've used a MacBook, I've tried to touch the screen so many times. Heck, I've even tried to use use a desktop monitor as a touchscreen without even thinking about it xD

I also never thought I'd need a touch screen, but then about two and a half years ago I got a laptop with a touchscreen. I only realised how much I used it when I switched to a non touch laptop earlier this year, and was reaching to the screen to hit the menu or scroll a web page a lot, but it didn't work.

I have a third party add on on my 27” iMac which makes it touch screen and it works well. - the application is with Hauptwerk- a virtual pipe organ program and the large 27” screen becomes the stop tab and draw knobs for the organ sample being used.

I just got my first 2 in 1, and the touch screen is an essential part of navigating the screen. I love it. It feels so surreal how well it works. I think Mac users do not really hate the touch screen, they actually hate themselves for using a Mac.

Actually the tablet mode in Windows 10 could be very useful once Microsoft decides what wants to be when it grows adult. I use it in my 2in1, when it's in notebook mode I just use it like a regular windows pc with the addition of the touchscreen, but when I need it to be more tablet I just rotate the screen and a popup asks me if I want to switch to tablet mode, which makes everything a lot more touch friendly like a tablet (this applies automatically to the whole windows interface, office, edge and some other programs)

The engineering in this, elegant!

The production quality on this channel is superb. GJ everyone

One nice thing about touchscreens on laptops that is hard to test by yourself is that touchscreens are useful for multiple users. If a relative wants to show me something on their laptop whether it is a news story or a product on Amazon, I can easily view it and interact through the touchscreen. I don't have to make them move so I can fully sit down and use the trackpad or mouse, all I have to do is stand next to them and scroll or click the few things I need to. That is one great use of a touchscreen, letting other people use the device at the same time.

That ending though 😂

I think the logical next step for apple would be to merge the ipad pro and mac book air product lines into a detachable screen hybrid à la Surface Book that switches between MacOS and iPadOS when you attach or detach the display from the keyboard. It would be the best of all worlds and with the iPads improved productivity applications over the years and the recent implementation of the M1 in both products it seems only a bit of hardware design would be needed

Loved the montage of that taped monstrosity! :D

Love this channel, great host!

I really like being able to use my surface for class, so instead of carrying around a laptop and 2 notebooks, I just have it and I can pull the keyboard and use the pen to draw or take notes.

This guy got me interested in Apple, again!

This channel has such great production quality

Wow ! Amazing video man . ❤️❤️

that transition at 1:27 is really cool, great job! :)

0:06 True. I can’t stand my roommate touching my laptop screen constantly and I have to clean his fingerprint every time.

This is exactly the content I'd expect from an LMG Mac channel!

Absolutely! Exactly how I see it as well! So you are not alone! Also I really like you as the host! You are very charismatic :)

Would you rather: have a feature that you don't use often but when you do is useful, or, don't have that feature and be stuck with just one input? I mean I get the point, but a feature is a feature and if you decide not to use it that's up to you.

Now that I can play IOS games on my M1, I NEED a touch screen. Damn, just give me a two in one.

Great Video! On the point!

what I like about a touch screen is it is essentially a bigger trackpad, meaning you can be more precise and/or do more at a time, as in zooming in or out. it is rarely used, but a nice addition.

I just wanted to use this opportunity to wish Yvonne and Linus a Happy 10 year anniversary! I hope you guys have a great day!

I use the touchscreen on my windows laptop constantly, but never when I’m using it as a laptop, only when the screen is folded back in the “tablet mode”(I keep the software tablet mode off btw, idk who it’s for, but I hate it)

I really enjoy my 2 in 1 laptop. I mostly use touch when I fold it to present things to people, or to take notes with the Wacom enabled screen.

I was thinking about this the other day. I only use Apple for two things currently: Sound/music work in Logic Pro on a 2013 Macbook Pro and a lightweight vision mixing app for event streaming on an old iPad. Both of which are ageing and proving difficult to use at times but I really don't want to have to buy two devices to replace them. What I would ideally like is an iPad that, when connected to an external display, could run MacOS.

Hard disagree. Now that they are making the hardware common with m1, a touchscreen macbook air with a 360 hinge and selectable ipados mode would be an instant buy from me. I don’t use the touchscreen on my Lenovo yoga at a desk, but I use it in almost every other situation which is the majority of my time.

@1:28 made me burst out laughing

Love it for Scrolling and if there writing fields, as is HATE my trackpad to do those thing....

Such good and old school format of filming :)

Touch screen is awesome, just look at the surface.

i felt too personally attacked about the dock on the side, it's awesome

for studying i got myself a xps13 2 in1, i can take notes by hand which is incredibly useful for small sketches and maths but i can also use it to program or create maps in specific programs that just don't exist on tablets as a student i couldn't afford to get two devices, especially not two apple devices so i had to settle for a windows 2in1 laptop

I'd say the issue is the screen size and resolution that's the biggest issue. I used a 17inch laptop with a touchscreen and there were days of use where I never touched the keyboard or trackpad after signing in. It was so convenient to be leaned in slightly, so my hands could poke at the icons on my taskbar or scroll a page while being near enough to the keyboard that using the traditional laptop interface wasn't a hassle. Since most of what I was doing had already had some touch optimization for mobile web browsing, very rarely did I need to make a big deal of having my arms in the air to use the touchscreen. Perhaps the size of the screen affected how easily I could press UI elements. Maybe the screen res, and therefor windows UI scale, helped too. But I think that at the same time, it's not a tool for productivity minded activities. Like was said in the video, the mouse is a precision instrument. I never used the touchscreen if I was doing work. Never. it was only when I was relaxing in front of my laptop that I used it.