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Why VR isn't fun anymore. 

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In this video I explore how VR is hindered by many issues like: boring, repetitive games/apps, expensive but bad hardware, extremely annoying comfort, lack of killer games/apps that make VR worth it and finally the horrible UI that VR can't seem to figure out.
Watch Thrillseeker's video on "The Largest Unsolved Problem in VR.", it goes into more depth on VR user interfaces and VR operating system tech:
• The Largest Unsolved P...
Videos I took small clips from:
• Oculus Quest 2 Unboxin...
• Meta Quest 3 VR Headse...
• How To Prevent Motion ...
• Job Simulator | Full G...
• Steve Jobs introduces ...
• Why VRchat is The Worst
• Hip Hop Music Pack | T...
• The Largest Unsolved P...
• BONELAB - Launch Trail...
• Meta Quest 3: How to C...
• Little Timmy doesn’t r...
00:00 - Intro
00:54 - Bored-ness
1:14 - Hardware
1:30 - Comfort
2:21 - Apps/Games
2:41 - UI
3:11 - Summary
3:30 - Outro

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@streetlevr
@streetlevr 6 дней назад
Do you think VR will slowly die out or will companies finally lock in and fix everything? Leave a comment to join the discussion!
@GeV7891
@GeV7891 2 дня назад
Oh stop crying
@furqanirfan2676
@furqanirfan2676 2 дня назад
why? are you getting bills for it?
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
Nice, a person who this video is exactly aimed at.
@rzival
@rzival 2 дня назад
Two things: 1. Others may be interpreting it differently but I don't see this as hate on Quest or Meta; just looking at it realistically. If anything it's pointing out what Meta should do to better appeal to the general population (who by default is extremely hard to please), so that VR advances even further. Just tough love 2. Happy to see a VR creator making an original video essay! Hope to see more of these!
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 20 часов назад
100%. VR as a whole is slowly but surely becoming less "niche" and a more widespread thing which is largely due to Meta. These were just some of my experiences I've had with the quest headsets that really made it just annoying to use, which usually ended up with it sitting on my desk collecting dust for months
@silentgamers9124
@silentgamers9124 2 дня назад
LITERALLY just bought a quest 3 and this video pops up lmao.
@Red1Ahmed
@Red1Ahmed 2 дня назад
same haha
@GeV7891
@GeV7891 12 часов назад
You’re lucky im getting the 3 in 10 days
@TylerSerino
@TylerSerino 2 дня назад
Although your video is focused on Meta, my question, is what can we Dev's do to try and help the eco system. Meta's choices are obviously outside of most of our control, but for those of us who love VR and want to create for it, what would you suggest we do to help enrich the ecosystem?
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
I'm going to again suggest ThrillSeekers video on VRs biggest flaw. It needs a universal design, more apps need to prioritise hand tracking over controllers and it need to be responsive and intuitive
@colevilleproductions
@colevilleproductions День назад
I wouldn't say the quest 3 was a minor improvement. The resolution upgrade is significantly noticable, and it's hugely improved by the fantastic lenses. I get noticably better performance in all the games I play, the WiFi 6 and 6e support is hugely beneficial for wireless pcvr, the passthrough is actually usable now, and by far one of the biggest improvements is the tracking. I've been able to play games with just the light from a computer screen with zero issues. Of course the depth sensor is largely the reason for this. The weight is maybe 3 grams heavier, but I've never noticed it because of how much better the weight distribution is due to the reduced size. It has only ever felt more natural and comfortable to wear, despite the absolutely atrocious default headstrap. The battery life does suck which is an annoying downside, especially when it dies while plugged in via link cable 💀 Quest 3 meatriding aside, I agree that many games get very boring, and I largely think that this is because in the world of vr, games with some amount of story or campaign are exceptionally rare. Almost all the games seem to be either online competetive games or arcade-style games and it gets quite exhausting. So many games as well end up coming across as some kind of tech demo rather than a finished product. I'm a HUGE fan of hand tracking, IN THEORY. However, in practice, using cameras for hand tracking can fundementally never cut it. Take waltz of the wizard for example. It's got so many cool features and when it works, it feels genuinely magical. But 95% of the time (for me at least), I'm trying to figure out how to get the app to register a snap without losing tracking or just teleporting me. When a system that's supposed to feel as natural as just using your hands has as much imprecision and drift as the current hand tracking on the quest 2 and 3 do, it causes extreme frustration and confusion for any user. Human hands are so precise that in order for hand tracking to ever really work, we need some kind of glove or wristband that can track the movement. Even if we don't have haptic feedback gloves with fluid pockets for 6 billion dollars a glove, Just being able to use our hands accurately will make an indescribably big difference. Additionally, there are only so many gestures we can use with our hands at once. Controllers give a level of precision that is hard to achieve with just hands. Switching from controllers to hand tracking is a bit like trying to switch from a keyboard to a controller, for doing something like photoshop where it requires tons of keybinds and shortcuts. Take, for instance, locomotion. Just came back to this comment after forgetting to finish it and realized I just have to send it because I don't want to type 100% of my yapping right now
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 20 часов назад
I mostly agree with you. The Quest 3 being a minor improvement was just me comparing it to the insane jump that was the quest 1 to 2 that actually made vr go more mainstream. Yeah, its an upgrade and a pretty big one. But when compared to the jump of the original quest 1 to the quest 2 it doesn't seem as big anymore. And for games, yes, I still believe controllers are the way to go, but hand tracking is still new technology and we don't know what may come in the future, so I guess for now controllers work fine for games. Metas UI still needs a huge rework in terms of making it easier with hand tracking though.
@GarrettTobyC13
@GarrettTobyC13 2 дня назад
Had to stop a minute in. The quest 3 is a huge jump in visual quality and performance. Do you even have one?
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
no, because the quest 3 is not that big of a step up. look at the quest 1 vs 2, jesus, that was an insane jump. quest 3 is more of a quest 2.5
@GarrettTobyC13
@GarrettTobyC13 2 дня назад
@@streetlevr You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. The q3 has a better chip and new lenses that make a world of difference. Coming from someone who actually owns both not making videos dissing on something I don't even own.. I can actually use my wifi 6e router and nvidia 4000 series to push av1 codec video to the quest three. It's one of the best looking vr headsets on the market at about half the cost of the competition.
@scarf744
@scarf744 2 дня назад
@@streetlevr can you play games in 4k on your quest 2? Seriously you cant say its not better without even owning it. after using the q3 and checking in on the q2 the speakers are crap, the blur is awful, its to easy to see the individual pixels, and i cant get it to play games at 4k EVEN the controllers are better i played beat saber on the q2 again and its to top heavy it makes it so much harder
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
Sure man, whatever you wanna tell yourself. Just completely ignore my previous comment then
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
The quest 3 has more weight than the quest 2 and if you're measuring how vr looks with flatscreen resolutions like "4k" then you have no idea what you're talking about. PPI is a much better way to measure resolution in vr
@miguelplays2921
@miguelplays2921 12 часов назад
Not gonna lie, you are kinda right, as bad as it is For 1. isn't Facebook or Meta extremely rich, I don't know why they wasted their time with the Meta Quest Pro, I knew that it wouldn't succeed because mixed reality seems impractical and the Vision Pro flopped so hard as I predicted. 2. the upgrade from 2 to 3 seems decent yeah the pancake lenses are nice but at 500 dollars minimum without accessories that you know you have to buy like battery, silicon face thingy, head strap, headset protector, and controller protectors = so its basically a 600 dollar headset at 128GB only, a ps5 today is like 400 for disk version 3. where are the Quest 3 titles 4. quest 4 is probably anyways coming out in 2027 or 2026 in October (if it does?) I might just hold out till that one comes out as far as it seems right now 5. quest 3 Lite is coming out later this year in 2024 with the power of Quest 3 but the same fresnel lenses from Quest 2. It pretty much but at hopefully 300 dollar price point ( its basically the quest 2 pro) 6. I've heard that Quest 3 isn't worth the money and have heard the glazing that it is so im not sure which is true. 7. plus the games cost from 10 to 70 dollars as well which adds up. ( the games should be cheaper since the market for vr is still trying to attract consumers) ps. I've heard of leaks that the Quest 3 is canceling the 128 GB at 499 and replacing it with 256gb when the Lite later this year comes out as well. overall good video, people just hate harsh or kinda real opinions on how perhaps we should be getting better than this for a company as big as Meta seems like they holding back and paying the price for it the quest 3 sales are kinda dog water too 💀 I think the quest 3 is a worthy upgrade but they better not pull this shite again for the quest 4 i rather have the quest 4 come out till 2027 but with big and massive improvements rather than the okayish major improvements right now. w vid 💯
@TrashyTVV
@TrashyTVV 2 дня назад
I have not played vr in a year I got back into this week
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
Congrats
@SarkasticProjects
@SarkasticProjects 2 дня назад
interesting and grabbing title. i am happy as a METAmentor to proove you wrong. And the First Official VR World Records are a proove :)
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
I don't see any proving wrong ?
@maniac_fpv
@maniac_fpv 2 дня назад
My only problem is that airlink is lagging even with nasa pc/internet...literally bought Quest 3 bcs I wanted play without cables ffs...
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
Virtual Desktop on top
@maniac_fpv
@maniac_fpv 2 дня назад
@@streetlevr cool but what if Im traveling? Can I use it with hotel wifi? Dont think so..
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
you can but its not recommended. airlink in my experience has never come close to the smoothness and fine tuning capabilities of vd
@GarrettTobyC13
@GarrettTobyC13 2 дня назад
@@maniac_fpv isn't there a little airlink usb dlink router that you could connect in the hotel? I think you're just looking for a problem.
@maniac_fpv
@maniac_fpv 2 дня назад
@@GarrettTobyC13 The problem is that I have lags and game shutters with my home 5Ghz router with 300mbps so it will be even worse with hotel one where u get for example 15mbps, right? :D sorry for my english
@MRChazzy1
@MRChazzy1 2 дня назад
jea i understand but i love vr i play gorilla tag so much i love it so much but you a littel bit right
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
me personally i don't like gorilla tag and i never will but hey if thats what u like then fair enough
@felipealmeida5880
@felipealmeida5880 2 дня назад
It sounds like a depressed person talking, maybe the problem isn't the meta quest.
@streetlevr
@streetlevr День назад
I'm happier than I've ever been. What does my mental health have to do with this video?
@scarf744
@scarf744 2 дня назад
i litteraly daily vr for like 6 hours. dont know what people are talking about, i have no idea what people are mad about the ui, it looks nice stop being so picky. i can list over 10 games i could play for hours, something i cant do for pc. also 0 controllers make making game difficult. Especially if its an fps game. there just isnt many options that feel good to use for controls
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
We aren't "being so picky", the UI is horrible. I'm going for a third time to recommend thrillseekers video on vrs biggest problem
@scarf744
@scarf744 День назад
@@streetlevr i already watched it, tell me how its bad currently
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 20 часов назад
Too much clutter, I don't need my apps that are uninstalled to stay in my app library. Meta/Facebook, need I say more? I don't need their apps shoved down my throat. The Oculus menu that shows up in games is too big, pauses the game and lags everything out. Too many buttons that do next to nothing, should have the option to disable them (social tab, explore tab, store tab, etc) No universal UI design that makes all apps intuitive like Windows, iOS and Android
@Bravest_on_fire
@Bravest_on_fire День назад
Vr is still fun
@streetlevr
@streetlevr День назад
I respect your opinion
@Bravest_on_fire
@Bravest_on_fire День назад
@@streetlevr thx
@retrostansolo
@retrostansolo 2 дня назад
Tbh my friend i think you're talking a load of shite.
@streetlevr
@streetlevr 2 дня назад
I respect your opinion
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