Why was Cesare Borgia so feared? 

I thought the same thing

Assassin's creed brotherhood

And don't forget about the apple

Man that reference

A man of culture

Papal. I get the joke though😅

Cringe🤢

Ha, good one!

😂

Same here always been fascinated with stories of him!

I prefer Mazzini

goul

He is the inspiration of the famous false appearance of Christ.

I prefer Napoleon the king of Italy or Murat anyway frenchmen leading little bro italy

I thought they said Leonardo do caprio

The perfect crossover does not exi-

they didn't.

u forgot Ezio Auditore de Firenze

@@resentfulandvengeful2193 go back to reddit

Well said 😊

Ironic, considering that Machiavelli didn't really believe in a single word of it.

@@AeneasGemini I have heard the idea that his work was satire. Is that what you are thinking? It's an intresting idea

@@HistoryfortheAges It would be if it was greek , greek had smar a55 comedy like that. But with Italians and at that time, i'm going to say no. I've read Machs other works and tho they are different from this one , the prince is def not a satire. It's more of a short for fun book, don't think Machievelli took it that seriously but its def not a satire. I would imagine that Cesare was like LUCA MARINELLI in the My Name is Jeeg movie... Lucas character is well respected, charasmatic but dangerous dude but he was also a funny character , almost like a joker character. IN other words Cesar Borgia was like a mix of Jack Nicholsons joker and Heath Ledgers , both deep but also amazingly charasmatic and likeable. But Cesare wasn't much of a bad guy, Mach also calls him a workaholic. In one section he says that Machievelli would spend hours and days doing his homework on statecraft and getting hands on work of adminstering his domain and would be up until the wee hours perfecting his craft and getting last minute touches... then he would lose energy and just turn into an ubber sloth sleeping and doing nothing for 2 days straight exahusted from his all nighters. ..But one thig was certain on the weekends(non workdays) you would see him hanging out with his peons and he would be partying with them and playing soccer with kids and his people love him. Could you imagine if your Boss was the guy spending hours trying to make the company hit $5 billion in sales trying to make sure everything was okay for everybody and then on the weekends hanging out with his employees and shooting a few beers. Also , in the Prince Machievelli says that Cesare was one of the most well studied guys, he went to the best univerisities and was sort of a nerd for history, economics, math and politics and Theology ( philosophy/sociology of its day).. The only satire part is that .. as much as Cesare was this prodigy that perfected his craft, it did not matter because at the end of the day he attained his power through his father , and once his father died , all of his enemies would dispose of him like nothing.. Theres the only satire to it.

@@HistoryfortheAges Not so much a satire , but not a manifesto for the ideal ruler either . There is a theory that claims it was a veiled insult / condemnation for the ruling family that exiled him in the first place . A way to expose them to the public as cruel and tyranical and Maciaveli was actually not in favor of despotia . We will never know for sure .

A good read indeed. One of the books bout politics imho

I see it as a cover. Machiavelli writes The Prince about Ezio in reality, as he states in the game (he says he wants to write a book about him - I know because I finished the game two days ago), but he puts the name of Cesare and some of his actions to not make Cesare suspect of him, and even get close to him, so he can get useful info on the Templars.

@@ikad5229 that doesn’t make any sense if you actually read the book though, it’s clearly about a public figure that leads his people with cunning and brutality, not a sneaky assassin. I know it’s a detail that you’re not supposed to take seriously but it’s a kind of silly idea

@@czechmeoutbabe1997 I actually haven't read the book, so thank you for the information. I knew it was an easter egg, and a good one imo, but still, they could have explained why Machiavelli was so interested with Cesare.

​@@ikad5229it could be another book, not the Prince one. As he stated that he's interested to write about Ezio's life and wrote it as short as possible.

Nice one

Ezio is the best

@@FazlurTheGreat---Oh yeah. Agreed.

@@FazlurTheGreat fuck Ezio, Altair forever

Ah Yes. The ever petulant man child our based Italian tossed from a castle after ruining his plans

Lol. Gained control of the Paypal Army.

I definitely heard the same thing and it took me a while to realise this

So it's control of the Popes's Army. Papal control? Thanks, I was so lot with Paypal

If i had to write all the mistakes in the pronounciation of the italian words...

this dude cant even say duchy right.

yep

nah

Best ac antagonist

Ong

@@Dragons_Armory no 1 asked u to live

Lol, he was actually pretty qualified to officiate as a priest. Better than the regular cardinals.

@@xhagast Schhh, don't tell them that. They'll want to keep him even more.

@@ZombieDragQueen Lol.

@@xhagast I think we all remember the Cadaver Synod where nine months deceased pope Formosus was dug up and put on trial by pope Stephen VI for bullshit reasons. It was so embarrassing we've never heard since of pope Formosus II or Stephen VII. While unlikely cardinals would dig up Cesare's bones to officiate weddings and baptisms I wouldn't put it past them.

EXACTLY and he made one mistake only one this mistake caused his falling

made JULES II pope

@@MW3laforcewhat mistake?

⁠​⁠@@sila3228He contracted Malaria during the same time that his father was dying of it. During this time he controlled the vote of most of the Spanish cardinals who were electing the next pope, I don’t remember the number but he was able to deadlock the conclave if a candidate he disliked was selected. Unfortunately he allowed the ascension of Julius II who proved to be no different from his father, a relatively unscrupulous and power hungry man who immediately reneged all of his agreements with Cesare upon his ascension as Pope.

Religion has always been about the money more than anything else.

@@Shan_Dalamani Ahhh yes so you don't need money to live ?

@@KarmaKraftttt That makes no sense.

@@Shan_Dalamani Exactly! Religions can be indeed stupid sometimes but saying that it's always about money is just a biased statement which doesn't make any sense.

@@KarmaKraftttt So you've never had JWs or other come knocking on your door, give you a spiel about God and Jesus loving you, and by the way, would you like to buy a book, subscription to their church's newsletter, or buy their video? It's about the money.

Would have changed the geopolitical landscape of Europe for centuries if that happened

He was kind of a foreigner, his father, Pope Alexander VI, and his family was from Valencia, Spain. Although Spain and Italy had a very "unified" History in the Early Modern Era.

@@ikad5229 His mother was italian and he was born and raised in Italy so to our eyes he was italian enough.

@@christiancristof491 I have a question. Would you say a person that lives in Italy, cares about the culture and the country, knows the language and plans to live in it for many years to come, is somewhat Italian?

Please show me where that is written in the Prince?

Curious if this is factual if Alexander Dumas took this as inspiration for Dante in the Count of Monte Cristo

During that time to be named Cardinal wasn't necessary to be a priest first.

They were just very successful

@@chrissiek8706 they were unsuccessful actually, that is why there is so much propaganda about them

THAT STILL GOES AGINST THERE OATHS AS CARDINALS THOUGH.

It’s always the chastity vows that’s a burden to man, but there’s a lot of power to be had when man was a member of the Vatican.

The Borgia Family (Click Click)

Rodrigo: *Dies* Caesare: Oh no

Rich coming from the man who only got to keep his title from luck alone. If cathernine hadn’t died the Prussians would have gotten curbstomped by the Russians

@@donniedewitt9878 wrong . It was Elizabeth that died . Catherine was still married to Peter . Catherine would die sometime before the french revolution Also saying Frederick the great survived due to luck is just false . Yes it did play a part in the end but the dude literally fought Russia France and Austria and minor German states at the same time and was winning all the time . Hes only problem was his limited number of soldiers who he couldn't replenish

@@eg310 the Russians were at Berlin if they didn’t stop Prussia would have been no more

@@Boretheory I know that it most likely would have gone that way (not defenetly since even after Russians retreated he fought and won battles with practically recruits but there's very slim chances that he would be able to win against the Russians again ) . My point was the Frederick wasn't some B tier king that got curbstomped by russians who he defeated in many battles beforehand .

He got it wrong it should be, "a good example for those that would seek fortune's favor."

lived like a gangster and died like one

He was a Tyrant like his father and brother.

@@theawesomeman9821 exactly he truely was the most powerful and terrifying man at this time

@@MW3laforce maybe in his lifetime. If we talk about that period of time.,..we had Vlad the Impaler

@@theawesomeman9821 he who lives by the sword dies by the sword.

Whoa, written by the same guy that wrote The Godfather. Thanks.

This video clears up the circumstances in which you were thrown into action to kill Cesare all of a sudden

"Welcome" is mayor words. Feared and respected him is more what Machiavelli meant.

Giovanni, or rather Juan, was a known prick with many enemies. I agree. It was probably the Orsini as any foul deed orchestrated by Cesare would have been done better. The Juan Borgia Murder case painted too big a target on him. Had Cesare been believed to be guilty, I believe not even his father would have forgiven him and elevated him to the status he did if he was even remotely suspected. What makes the case suspicious is that Pope Alexander VI, distraught, wasted no time and spared no costs in launching the investigation in Juan's death. The investigatiob went on for a while, but then, suddenly Alexander closed the book on it and never spoke of it again. Now this is just me speculating, but I believe the reason for that is that he did actually find who was responsible--and the person responsible wasn't someone he could afford to oppose at the time. Rodrigo Borgia had always been a master politician and administrator before anything else. It's not unreasonable to think he'd deny himself parental justice to serve some strategic power goal. He couldn't afford to lose his head. So he denied himself and his son justice.

You are right, because people they pretend to apply the English spelling to any other European languages.. doesn't work like that

Yeah bothered me too

I think it was four parts.

Going to look for it right now, thanks!

Indeed. Very comical.

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Yeah, but I would rather not lose all of my shit once my father dies.

idk nowadays murdering your siblings spouse will only get you in a 4 x 4 cell somewhere

I think he means more of go-getter by any means mindset…not the sibling murders/fucking and over-reliance on nepotism

I was hoping someone would bring up Assassin's Creed. Thank you, Brother.

Ah yes, AC Brotherhood reference

ABOLISH UBISOFT

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“Mano y Mano, man vs man, just you me and my GUARDS”

Because who's to say he wasn't doing both? Yeah, we know he was a fan of republics first and foremost, but The Prince was written post-torture and after his fall from the civic duty he loved so much. The Prince could have been written as a response to that trauma. Like a "Fine! You people want to play like this?! I'll show you how to play! I don't care anymore!" Machiavelli coukd have easily been looking for a savior at that point. Someone who can make all the bullshit he experienced worthwhile. Someone who might see value in him and return him to service, even if it means serving under a prince rather than a people.

It reads like pure satire.

He's evil

Popes, Papal Sons, Texans - ye are all cut from the same dominant cloth.🙄

@@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293 Mozart, best stick to your music and leave the Popes and the Texans to their own devices.

​@@wolfgangamadeusmozart1293please tell me more of this evil,and yes your right ✔️

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I don’t know why but they have a long string of mispronunciations, and after a while it stops being funny and starts getting annoying.

I was skeptic of the pronunciations.

JFC, it's annoying when presenters don't bother to learn the correct pronunciation of words. All this PayPal States and PayPal Armies had me snickering and rolling my eyes throughout.

@@Shan_Dalamani Haha, it was funny for me at least and I've certainly heard worse xD

The Church worked on donations, tithes and the rents of its properties so it is KINDA PayPal.

Well, if i remember this correctly, the Prince was dedicated to a Medici ruler of Florence. As master Niccolo was never brought back into office, the probability is good, that the man did not really read the book. To the question regarding syphilis, there, I am out.

@@swashbukk I read the Prince a few years back and it mentions that the guy he intended it for died and so it was given to another prince of that family. Read by the elders first and they loved it and accepted it. But I can’t remember who it was given to

@@kanyekubrick5391 The Prince was intended for Lorenzo De Medici. When he died however, it was re-attributed to Giuliano De Medici (Lorenzo’s successor). Some argue that the prince was inspired by Cesare. In my opinion this is very much not the case, since Cesare lacked many of the most important features necessary to prince according to Machiavelli. Also, Machiavelli wrote about a lot of people, you could argue the book was inspired by any character mentioned in the book.

@@leonardodavid2842 I recall The Prince refers to Lorenzo de Medici, too. Been many years ago since I read it, but I thought that was the case. Still do, but I should revisit it.

@@leonardodavid2842 yea, but ceasar was mentioned a lot in the book. I think the book was more of a call out on how dictatorship mechanism works

They’re the same shit to this day

@@Boretheory wrong. Today we hv idiots. At least back then, there were political geniuses like Machiavelli

@@Boretheory true but it's not as bad

@@lucadesanctis563 Nothing really changed

@@lucadesanctis563 there’s geniuses but we elected ppl like Salvini. It’s the people’s fault

wrong? We have a ton of jesus mosaics and portraits before 1500s

@@futurei0oo Take your meds

It would fit so well with the utter corruption of the papacy at the time. Cesare was handsome(until syphilis made him wear a mask). So keep the good looks, give him Michael Corleone's expression and you have Cesare Borgia as Jesus.

@@Johnny3Batony what kind of response is that?

The elite of the catholic church are twisted like that.

Alledged. So probably true. These were sick times.

@@CoolAdam247 Well, its not like promiscuity is an exclusivity to the catholics

lol

Sancia, who was married to their little brother, who was only about 12 or so. She was years older, and it was a political marriage.

Abolish Ubisoft

Man it took me way too long to find am assassin’s creed comment, not enought people played it :(

Abolish Ubisoft

I hope and wish they can make ACWW2 done right ✔️

He was actually a very honorable and kind and caring guy he was in a banking war with the Medici family 2 of the biggest banking family's in Italy at the time.

But at the same time Abolish Ubisoft 😅😊