Also if one wants to get super technical during the actual Battle of Endor itself he's along the Outer Rim engaging with the last remnants of the traitor Grand Admiral Zaarin's fleet (the TIE Fighter game). The final skirmish concludes with the player waiting to hear the results of Endor and the final defeat of the Rebellion. So even beyond building up the Empire of the Hand he has a separate assignment going on concurrently with the battle.
Short answer is he was busy hunting down the last of the Zaarin Insurrection forces left after Zaarin's death and fighting Nuso Esva while expanding the Empire of the Hand.
@@michaelandreipalon359 he only appears in one book "Choices of One" set in the months/year after Battle of Yavin(ABY) in ANH and one short story "Crisis of Faith" in the back of the 20th Anniversary edition of Heir to the Empire set months before Thrawn's return to the Known Galaxy in the last bits of 8 ABY/early 9 ABY. His name is a cipher for 'Moriarty' as if you take every letter in Nuso Esva and move one back(or forward, I forget which) in Latin, you get 'Moriarty' since Thrawn is Space Sherlock Holmes. However, Nuso Esva, while portrayed as dangerous never gets one over on Thrawn once and is pretty consistently outplayed to the point he was never in any real control of the duels between he and Thrawn. Whereas commanders like Wedge, Ackbar and Zaarin actually DO out gambit and defeat Thrawn in some actions.
@@cmedtheuniverseofcmed8775 Considering how Rebels and Ahsoka have been handled, I'd consider it more of a blessing that they DIDN'T try and adapt TIE Fighter...especially since Zahn's take on it in DisCan has Grand Admiral Savit(who is literally diet Zaarin) trying to sabotage the Death Star Project in favor of the TIE Defender project(that of course in DisCan they gave to Thrawn of all people) with Savit being an avid music lover, discontent with the Empire's focus on Superweapons and favoring Starfighters, but unlike who he's based off of, he goes down with barely any fight and never tried for the Throne.
#AskEck: What are your thoughts on Operation Domino and how the Galactic Civil War would've gone if it was successful? I wish we could've gotten more lore about the "Secession Worlds" mentioned in The Essential Guide to Warfare that the Empire crushed early on.
#AskEck So there’s a lot of destruction and removal of the past in the Star Wars Galaxy, but is there any part that preserves physical pieces of the past, like a museum or heritage railroad?
Does the library of Obroa-skai count? I can't remember exact quotes but I believe the gist was that it had information on almost every known world in the Star wars galaxies that had been examined and explored by the old Republic ,empire, and most likely the new Republic
@@VengeanceN7 Yes that could maybe count, but I'm referring to preservation of ships and vessels in general, not just their knowledge they existed, like my second example of a heritage railroad. Maybe some are kept in operation or on display.
#AskEck will we ever see our Chiss friends in live action? Thrass, Ar’alani, Che’ri, Vah’nya or Somakro etc dont really fit too well with anything really going on at the moment - but I love them
I’m looking forward to seeing what Dave will do with thrawn in the movie. He says he’s going for something different than the sequels or prequels in terms of conflict.
#AskEck: Why are there so many super star destroyers in the Empire and not use all of them at the Battle of Endor in canon and legends? Could have just finished off the Rebellion and called it a day besides the obvious story plots of Death Star 2, Palpatine's arrogance, etc.
Obvious answer is that if all the SSD’s started disappearing around the galaxy, the rebels would suspect an imperial operation. Basically, the same explanation that there were only 30 or so star destroyers at Endor.
My question would be, why do you think they didn't do any else with the Ssi-ruuk from truce at bakara. The end felt like they were setting them up for more appearances, and do you think they instead "abandoned" then as a concept and more or less turned them into the Vong?
#AskEck Do you think we could see the yuuzhan vong in Star Wars canon? Maybe via through the escape with Ahsoka and Sabine in the Ahsoka show or through some other manner.
It’s too crowded for the time period they emerged in Legends. It would have to be set years after the sequel trilogy. Honestly I’d be cool if they made movies about that and get a chance to redeem themselves in terms of how “the future” looks in Star Wars. There’d also be a fully established Jedi order.
#AskEck I'm not too familiar with legends but in Canon, (specifically the seige of Mandalore), did the clones and death watch loyalists get along while fighting together? I think I heard it in a video that a majority of clones did not like the Mandalorians in legends but I may be wrong.
The specialist corps, the ARCs and RCs, were trained by the Mandalorians before Geonosis and the Mando culture trickled through the rest of the ranks. The clones *were* Mandos; they generally didn't like the Death Watch because Jango's men were True Mandalorians, their mortal enemies. "No true Mandalorian can abide the Death Watch." -Walon Vau, a member of Jango's training corps.
In Legends, the Chimaera wasn't Thrawn's flagship until his return in the Thrawn Trilogy. That was Admonitor, which he left behind in the Unknown Regions. So if he had been at Endor, he probably would have been aboard that ship unless he was assigned elsewhere, with the most likely options being either the Death Star or Executor, with him given overall command of the entire operation (behind Palpatine and Vader, obviously). Neither option bodes well for his long-term survival.
@@martinjrgensen8234 How do you figure that? Endor was entirely Palpatine's plan, and the course of action the Alliance took wasn't something Thrawn would be able to counter. The moment the Alliance fleet closed to knife-fighting range with Death Squadron, the ultimate fate of the Executor and those aboard it was sealed. Similarly, the sabotage mission on the ground was always going to succeed, as *nobody* in the Empire would have expected the Ewoks to do what they did. Thrawn would have died at Endor or been forced to retreat just like everyone else.
@@user-yq9im9dk9z except the ewoks had nothing to do with the space battle so why in God's glorious name would he incorporate their art into naval combat. make it make sense before you try calling Thrawn's strategies bullshit
#AskEck It's my understanding that Palpatine, through the Galactic Empire, sought to rule the entire galaxy. But did the Old Republic (officially the "Galactic Republic") also claim the entire galaxy as its rightful domain? What about the New Republic (in both Legends and Cannon)? How did these versions of the Republic deal with worlds and civilizations outside their control?
A hidden empire backing up THE Empire would have been a drastically more interesting background to Thrawn's return than dicking around on zombie planet
#AskEck What do we know of the development of the Venator? Was it ready at the outset of the Clone Wars or did it enter service sometime after it began? Lore ship Versus video request: Resurgent vs. Starhawk Tie Striker vs. New Republic V-Wing World Devastator vs. Vong Worldship Tie Silencer vs. X-83 Twintail Tie Silencer vs. Tie Defender (legends version) Keldabe vs. ISD II MC90 vs. Nebula class star destroyer Nebula class vs. Pellaeon class Majestic class vs. Bothan Assault Cruiser EAWX: FOTR’s Mandator II portrayal vs. Subjugator Praetor vs. Subjugator EAWX: TR’s Mediator portrayal vs. Resurgent Starhawk vs. Bulwark MK III Gargantua/Aratech 520 Battle Platform vs. A6 Juggernaut
#AskEck Why is the mainstream relationship between the Jedi Order and Clone Troopers positive and friendly in Canon while the relationship is more hostile between the two in Legends? What within both universes lead to such a difference leading the Order 66 in Legends being only a tragedy to the Jedi while in Canon, the event was a tragedy to both sides?
#AskEck Love the videos, always the best rationale and levelheaded views. Empire Strikes Back is my favorite movie, was there ever a canon or non cannon reason given to why the rebels were having trouble adapting the speeders to the cold? Also, ever a reason given why at the battle of Hoth they did not use Starfighters against the walkers? Would of loved to see an Xwing blast an ATAT
#AskEck I've heard rumor that the movie Rebel Moon coming very shortly (this week to Netflix) is the result of a Star Wars spec script that was rejected for being "too dark", and then just had the branding wiped away. Which seems plausible, given the 'empire' and 'rebellion' themes, and even a character with glowing red swords, etc. etc... Perhaps that one will also be deserving of a rundown when it comes out? To speculate how it might have fit in with the universe if it had been made with the original franchise integration. The trailer at least looks promising, but... Well, that's a trailer. Maybe it'll suck, maybe it'll be great. No idea.
#AskEck Question: What is your favorite non-human species (this does not need to be a matter of which is hottest, but if it is that is fine too. Also, if not, you can give a second answer to this too I guess since the fans will enjoy such answers probably). Second question: What is the most under-appreciated technology in the Star Wars universe?
I can't remember where I read it specifically, but I recall seeing somewhere that his "exile" to the Unknown Region by Palpatine was all a ploy by the two of them. As it went, Thrawn and Palpatine knew the threats out there and Palpatine wanted to send Thrawn with enough of a fleet to get the ball rolling on what became The Empire of the Hand, but knew it would draw attention from Thrawn's detractors. So, they hatched a plan where Thrawn would be implicated in an action that would allow Palpatine to "exile" him without it being suspicious and make it look like a punishment.
legends answer: there was harsh opposition to thrawns appointment to grand admiral and palpatine had a plan for thrawn to explore the unknown region, aswell as handle Nuso Esva, he also had the duties to make a buffer state to protect the main empire from a coming vong invasion. canon answer: the space wales got him
I'm only posting this because it is the most recent video at the time. But I've finally realized something. Sometimes it is better to not bring something back. I remember what Johnny Silverhand tells the player in Cyberpunk 2077 when he sees the Rainbow Cadenza turned into an Asian restaurant. "This is why we don't bring back fallen warriors. So they don't see everything they fought for turned to s#^@" I resonate strongly with that statement. Star Wars was better off unrevived.
#AskEck: Aside from the phase 3 darktrooper from legends, and whatever that battlesuit was that Admiral Fyar used against Kyle Katarn in Jedi Outcast, are there any other cases of wearable strength enhancing "exosuits" in Star Wars?
I'm not positive as to the Legends continuity, but I think the SSD's were pretty much brand new around the time period of the OT (around 0~BBYish roughly) so that decently explains a potential reason why in the canon timeline/course of events why he never received any for his fleet/forces under his command. I'd also think that, to Thrawn at least, a ship that large either as a flagship that was his or otherwise (by flagship I mean of the fleet of ships itself in a strategic/tactical sense and thus, the most likely centerpiece to a fleet/strike force) or, if sufficient enough in number and capable of reinforcing a fleet with more than one per each, its irrelevant since I think Thrawn would most likely be hesitant and afraid of the, while intimidating/menacing size of the SSD's, weaknesses that inherently accompany such aspects like being a huge target that can be more easily hit as well as (likely) difficult to maneuver and, thus, adapt to his strategies and tactics "on the fly" so to speak. Not to mention, and redundancy aside, his hatred of the Death Star's due to the weaknesses mentioned above, the SSD are not much better in that regard so I can see Thrawn looking at them in a very similar light.
Did the Ancient Sith know about the Star Forge? Ajunta Pall alludes quite heavily to the treasure of the Ancient Sith from his era to be the Star Forge, but I have yet to see this referenced anywhere else. I don't believe anyone other than the Rakatta, Revan, and Malak had anything to do with the Star Forge, or even had any knowledge whatsoever about its existence, and yet Pall seems to state otherwise and the Star Map is located within Naga Sadow's tomb, which couldn't have been a coincidence. Continuity error? Plot thread left unresolved? #askeck
#AskEck i really wanna know more about Captain Fordo and the null arcs lore. What happened to the null arcs after the clone wars? Also if they were so elite, why didn't we see more of them other than the Munnilinst 10?
They lived happily ever after on Mandalore with the Skirata clan. Presumably they found a cure for the accelerated aging because one of them is still around during the Legacy of the Force series, which takes place like 40 or 50 years later. Of course, later in that series a bioweapon that targets Fett DNA is released on Mandalore so that probably doesn't go so well for them.
#AskEck : I see a lot of people online saying that the prophecy that says "the chosen one will bring balance to the force" means that the balance is an equivalent presence of the dark side and the light side ? My understanding is that in canon it is explicitly said that bringing balance to the force means the destruction of the sith not this balance none sense. Why is that ? There's a episode in Star wars clone wars that could explain it but even then. Maybe it's more in legend ?
#AskEck Since the CIS had a huge military advantage over the republic during the start of the clone wars due to the republic being demilitarized at the time, why didn't Palpatine just use the CIS to take over the galaxy instead of trying to convince the republic to give all power to him. Even with the Clone army(which he created) the CIS still had multiple opportunities to win the war if not for his meddling. It just seems like its an easier thing to pull of.
#AskEck I've just started reading the thrawn trilogy and was wondering if the slow start in the beginning of heir to the empire is leading up to something or is it more of a general catch up to after rtoj?
@Askeck Why didn't the Empire continue building ships like the Droid Tri-Fighter? Especially since Tie-Fighters are horribly inefficient by comparison.
@@Jaeger_Bishop less useful - if he can battle meditate and control the pilot, he can see through that pilot’s eyes and use their brain for processing speed
#AskEck Was Palpatine first confirmed as a Sith Lord in a Phantom Menance? So far reading Dark Empire 1 2 and Empire End's and most of the 90's EU nothing full on confirms Palpatins is a Lord of the SIth, that honor always goes to Darth Vader.
Arguably he was a lord of the sith long before the events of Phantom Menace (he was recruited decades before he even became a Senator, basically while still a child), he had held the title of darth sideous for years at that point and had basically completed his training (he was never trained to be a fighter, his master trained him to be a politician, businessman and mostly master at manipulation). He was however still merely the apprentice, his actions in recruiting and training Maul were behind his masters back however. It's not until he killed his master during the events of Phantom Menace that he became the master and outright Lord of the sith however, especially since he was (to his knowledge, he believed maul to be dead) very shortly after this event, the only sith left in the galaxy. When you realise that all of Palpatines plans are basically the ones his master created as a way for the sith to rule, but in such a way as to not let 99.9999% of people know the sith ruled (mostly because most people had forgotten who the sith were and the records had been purposely manipulated for centuries). As stupid as it is, his efforts to maintain power are what actually cost him it, had he been a benevolent ruler there would have been no rebellion and he could have massed so much power in the shadows that no one could ever oppose him or his chosen successors. Instead he played the monster and encouraged conflict (darkside nature wins again).
Im not sure, but i believe that writers didn't knew what exactly sith were. Like, Noghri were going to be called "sith", so that would explain Darth Vader's title as Dark Lord of the Sith. So i think its just another moment in EU writing, when George didn't explained ×-thing and later it becomes weird because of contradiction. Like The Clone Wars that were shown before Prequels came out, and weren't exacty like the ones in movie. Though to be fair, George manages to contradict himself sometimes, with Yoda as Kenobi's teacher (and no mention of Qui-Gon) and Leia who remember her mother despite her death right after she gave birth. Or it simply was Vader/Anakin - Sith Lord; Palpatine - The Emperor thing.
I mean, Palpatine DID know about the 'Far Outsiders' to a degree. I can't remember what book it was in, but wasn't it implied that, through the force, he sensed something coming from outside the galaxy and later learned about the 'Far Outsiders'. He put two and two together and that was one of the reasons why he attempted to create a unified militaristic galactic government.
#AskEck I'm working on my own Star Wars trilogy and I've been doing research to make sure I'm accurate to the lore as we understand it in canon and filling in the blanks with Legends as necessary. The one question I haven't been able to answer is this; can the Force change if people view the Force differently? Put another way, can peoples perceptions of the Force make the Force alter reality? P.S., I'd love to be able to share this story idea on the channel if you ever need something to talk about ☺️
#AskEck What if Quinlan Vos (Who was on Tattooine at the same time as Qui-Gon Jinn, and Obi-Wan Kenobi) had freed Anakin Skywalker from slavery, and took him as his apprentice? What kind of Master would Quinlan be for Anakin, and what kind of character would Anakin have turned out to be?
Thrawn would have anticipated the rebels linking up with the Ewoks and he would have reinforced the bunker, keeping a full batallion around the bunker while also having a large force go seek and destroy the rebels. The Empire likely knew where the major nearby Ewok village was, the lack of large volumes of weapons fire coming from the jungle would imply the rebel force was not on bad terms with the local natives, despite that they could hardly have failed to make contact with them. This would lead to the conclusion that checking the Ewok villages for the presence of rebels would be a good idea. The whole rebel plan on Endor would fall apart quickly as Imperial forces tracked them down and took them out.
#AskEck I am not sure if i have seen anyone discuss this in detail. Mimbam. What forces do you think need to be introduced to the stalemate to start the ball rolling for an imperial victory? Space ships? Armored vehicles and battalions and specialized troops. And what initial ground tactics would they need to addopt in order to accomplish their first major victory?
#AskEck Wanna do a video on IG88's pre disney creation and then take over of Mechis III/machine uprising? Would love to get your thoughts on that. Could be a fun one
In summary: Why wasn't Thrawn at Endor? He had better things to do than deal with a bunch of uppity terrorists. He had *real* threats to prepare for. It's a shame the NJO authors weren't bothered to do their homework in regards to the Empire of the Hand. I suffered through all those books hoping to learn more -- major character Jagged Fel was from the Hand! Only for them to just conflate it with the Chiss Ascendency. Such a shame. I wish Timothy Zahn had written a novel post-Survivor's Quest in the Legends timeline.
@@mazkeraid4039 there's not going to be an opportunity now -- Disney "decanonized" the entire old Expanded Universe. Meaning they're not allowing any (official) new stories to be told. I've decided that if they won't do it, I'll write my own fanfiction. At least then I'll have something.
I always understood it as Thrawn and palpy were planning this together the whole time, sending Thrawn back to the chiss and unknown regions to build the hand and get intelligence and experience on the conf because of the visions palpy had after killing plagueis showing him the vong, being one of the main reasons he had the various super weapons built.
It would also explain the fast, unshielded and rapid fire TIE fighters, which would theoretically perform well against Corakskippers, and the Stormtrooper armor that isn't great against blasters, but works well with kinetic impacts, like razor/thud bugs used by Vong warriors.
#AskEck Why did the empire go so full on dreadnoughts and similar ships in legends after the second DS was destroyed, sure the Eclipse One or Two make sense but all these other ones being designed and built after Endor? It doesn't make sense
#AskEck How did the sith mange to stay hidden for a thousand years? There must have been some slip-ups where the jedi could have found out about their existance.
Short answer for those, who reads comments before watching video: In canon - Ezra stole Thrawn's ship with them inside by purgils (space whales with natural hyperdrives) on the Lothal, long time before battle of Endor. In Legends - i didn't read any Legends material, so watch the video, that's why it is made after all.
I always think, it was on purpose. Empire try to not show they know about rebel atack, so Thrawn presence should alert rebels and trap will be revealed
Legends, the original superior option: he was in the Unknown Regions fixing it up for Imperial Expansion. Disney inferior must forget version: he was spirited away long before Endor to outside the Galaxy.
#AskEck Question about Salvage. If you found a crashed Venator and were able to make it Spaceworthy again, could you just own it or would you get problems with the Republic? How was it handled with the Empire(Both Venator and ISD). Or more broadly, how was the Ownership of lost "Goverment" Property handled. Was there a big difference between Republican Salvage or Imperial Salvage in the Empire? Would an active Venator under civil Ownership be a problem in the Empire?
#AskEcks: Question for you. What happened to prisoners taken by the Rebel Alliance? We can determine what the Empire did with prisoners, we saw prison camps in Rogue One and Andor. But what did the Rebel Alliance do with Imperial prisoners? Were they simply released? Did the Alliance have prison camps?
#AskEck You recently made a video about hyperlanes, and that got me thinking. Since it's a lane, almost like a road, do you always have to exit at the exact same spot, i.e. the egress point? Or are you able to exit hyperspace a bit earlier? I understand that later is impossible due to the gravitational pull of the stellar body, but earlier doesn't seem to far-fetched? As long as it's along the same vector, so to speak.
#AskEck What happened to The Millennium Falcon, and C-3PO after The Abeloth series (Fate of The Jedi)? Neither of them appear in The Legacy Comics a hundred years later, yet R2-D2 does. Are they safe? Are they alright?
Probably a good thing he wasn't there. At Endor there was 1 Moff, 4 Grand Admirals, 1 Fleet Admiral, 3 Admirals, and 1 Rear Admiral (that we know of) yet after the death of Palpatine that battle degenerated in to so much of a goat rope that none of them were able to sort out the fleet in to a fighting force leaving it to Pellaeon, a ISD captain, to retreat only part of it in good order. Some of the Grand Admirals either remained fighting on their own or retreated in a different direction. If Thrawn was there he'd be the primary target because his ship would be the one leading the only part of the remaining Imperial force in a competent manner. At that point if you're the Rebels you target a ship like that with everything you have, doesn't matter whose on it: if they're salvaging a situation this bad they got to die.
Is there an optimal order to read the novels? After watching your channel for the past 4 years i finally decided to jump into the novels and ive started with the thrawn trilogy. Once im done with this i plan in reading everything i can get my hands on, so which novel would you suggest i read next and so on #askeck