Why We Keep Losing the Immigration Debate - Konstantin Kisin 

thrusting illegal immigration down our throats is deliberately ignorant /affected ignorance/ and immoral itself; the message is simple - you must give away parts of your property and freedoms to illegal immigrants because they are worse off due to unfair distribution of resources and the wrongdoings of the white man in the past; and I say that as a legal immigrant myself whose family benefited hugely as immigrants, but the hard way legal immigrants.

I love how the more "contemporary" example was the Spartans. Kudos. Lol

I always enjoy your clips and interviews.. the points you make are always on spot and you're very well spoken 😊

​@@monoyamonoI actually thought that was pretty funny.. you know that was for the American audience who aren't familiar enough with their own history. (Insert movie for Americans 😅)

Why we are losing? Its the economy stupid.

As a dutchman I’m glad our government took a u-turn. An opt-out of EU policy has been filled. Hopefully this will change EU policy in it’s entirety.

You are exactly right, unfortunately there are quite a few people who are just that.

You are right in the majority of cases. However, the more I see the more I suspect that there is some homocidal, even some suicidal intent at play as well. Some people truly hate the West. Even some Westerners.

​@@o3rMeNsfunny that, the UK had to leave the EU to do that.

​@@dannyjonzeand absolutely nothing changed, didn't see that coming 👀

And if your bring this salt/soup disaster, people will tell you soup has always been this way...

And white people famously don't like to season their food.

And famously, people of European descent are not fans of seasoning their food.

​@@jonbaxter2254only if your a little hat wearer calling David packman

It's also about the types of immigrants. When the Parsis fled to India thanks to the peaceful invasion of Iran, the Hindu king offered them a glass full of milk, to signify that his lands were full. The Parsis took a spoon of sugar and mixed it. They were let in by the Indians, and have proved to be a huge asset to our nation. Similarly, Indians and Chinese tend to be low crime, integrate well..the point about limiting numbers still holds true of course, nothing "waycist" about it.

Exactly. It isn't like a majority of Brits love this level of migration - a clear majority dislike it, but we are run by ideologues. We can't make the ideologues stop by winning debates (if that worked then Britain's period of mass migration would have ended in the late 1960s).

Then there is only one last choice.

You must not debate with the members of your government to change their minds. Those people a probably ideologues. You must debate with your fellow people to replace the government and leading elites with people who are loyal to the people.

@@DreidMusicalX "iNsUrReCtiON!!!"

they listen to you. This insidious plan was conceived long ago. You were warned. Now you're starting to think What was WWII all for?

Immigrants pay their own rent, utilities and taxes. They don't owe you shit.

Agree 100%

Imagine nations that would prioritize humanity as a whole, and the well-being of our planet. Strange thoughts…

@@studiocorax8790 Is that what you'd label foster parents that take in too many kids resulting in far more suffering? Why not open your house to everyone who needs it and take off the door? Why not live by the principles you're trying to force onto others?

@@studiocorax8790google gum balls and world populations. You will see how fruitless and destructive to the western world this fallacy is.

Modern democracy is the problem.

Wow, I found a Skinnerian. I didn't know if anyone still thought of him and his work or not. I would have done more work in this field but was so stubborn and contraian just for the sake of being different. I guess I thought my actions would be confirmation of my superior ability to not get trapped in the Skinner Box.

There are other ways to influence the politicians

The phrase you are looking for is "elective dictayorship".

How in your view can migrants save the UK from economic collapse? The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba. The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade. Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia. Leading to growing blowback and resentment among some anglo saxon ethnic english who are increasingly opposing mass migration. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1zDATt_4dVk.htmlsi=JmjTeeVeoC8P-8n4 Samo Burja sees a UK civil war as likely. A civil war encouraged, backed and supported by rich and powerful external forces and countries. And I suspect that foreign powers are already generating instability, protests, extremism riots, violence inside the UK. To resist this, how would you inspire migrants and ethnics to step up and embody self-actualization, perfection, excellence, merit; and empower all Britons (including ethnic English); and bring the British people together again.

What is happening in Ireland is appalling

You do realize that you have taken having a real voice off the table by accepting the limits of engagement programmed into you? Said another way,if you aren't willing to fight for yourself,no one else will. And I mean fight.

@@Skippy-s1g what are you saying, the Irish should riot?

Aren't immigrants in Ireland high academically performing and rich?

​@@AnAn___ maybe in the past but it looks like they're getting the shit ones by the truckload now

Absolutely!

We don't need immigrants. We need to stop the decline of the native population, by banning abortion and the contraceptive pill. We need to train our own young people: give them more encouragement and discipline, rid schools and colleges of far left propaganda, offer more trade training opportunities and more STEM courses.

That's what Japan does, KK has already covered their immigration policy. You can argue they're too strict, but their approach to protect their economy, bureaucratic structure and societal norms is spot on.

That should apply to everyone here, the White Working Class is crumbling. We need higher standards too

thrusting illegal immigration down our throats is deliberately ignorant and immoral itself; the message is simple - you must give away parts of your property and freedoms to illegal immigrants because they are worse off due to unfair distribution of resources and the wrongdoings of the white man in the past.

The thing is not to care what they say

i think you missed the point

He is a little zionist puppet sadly.

Hmm. It's pretty simple really.

Conservakucks still think you can debate the enemy, and that truth matters.

With over a million followers, Konstantin is hardly being ignored any longer. He is emerging as a thought leader of ever increasing cultural significance. It is quite arguably his antagonists who are decreasing in cultural momentum. Konstantin, and people like him, are demonstrating that resistance is not actually futile but is essential for those who would preserve and promulgate the intellectual virtues of the Enlightenment. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance and it is courageous people of conscience like Konstantin who will preserve it for yet another generation.

@@josephbravo2590A cry, into the abyss, however well thought through, or right will not do it. Only armed rebels by the millions storming the buildings and their slithering occupants in DC, willing to sacrifice their blood, bones, bile, limbs, and lives will--possibly--overcome our FASCIST governors.

Some of the deliberately misleading terminology we're 'supposed' to use when referring to illegal migrants are "irregular migrants, undocumented immigrants, undocumented persons, and unauthorized immigrants"

thrusting illegal immigration down our throats is deliberately ignorant and immoral itself; the message is simple - you must give away parts of your property and freedoms to illegal immigrants because they are worse off due to unfair distribution of resources and the wrongdoings of the white man in the past.

And yet the “politically correct” term has become “undocumented migrants” 😆

@@L-8 It's brilliant. They have to keep changing the term as the negative perception increases, they just call it something else lol.

this is called passive language made to make you feel less strongly about something what we should be doing is calling what it is no kindness spared

No, the words will have to sink in eventually. It is just the lemmings who follow the left narrative, take a long time to educate. When their personal lives are effected, then they change.

Truth. Western politicians typically no longer server the people and their country - but rather, globalist agenda. Direct Democracy - like Switzerland - is the only way

Moral practionists... Essentially they have no morals unless it benefits them.. They'll fight one cause one month but completely flip the script if it suddenly benefits them. In essence we lose because we always on the back foot defending from their extreme conclusions. Means can never get ahead of the debate..

Spot on!

I've thought this for a long time. It's also usually a various combination of: don't care/immigration is good and if you're white you have to swallow it bc thats 'the way the world is going' too bad you're a colonialist rah rah

Yes. And people like the Doctor from BBC 4 shut it down before it even begins with claims of racism. It's not something they want to talk about even, just stop it dead in it's tracks and push it under a rug.

How in your view can migrants save the UK from economic collapse? The UK use to have a similar per capita income as the USA. Next year the UK is likely to have 60% US per capita income, or a lower per capita income than South Korea, African Americans and the USA's poorest state, Mississippi. At her current trajectory the UK's per capita GDP in my view will fall to less than half US levels; and to a lower per capita income than Malaysia, Greece, Guyana, Panama, Bahamas, Portugal, Aruba. The UK suffers from massive brain drain as the graduates of the UK's Russell Group universities (24 elite UK universities) and millionaire class rapidly leave the UK. The UK is likely to have about 600 K emigrants leave the UK next year. Over the past decade the number of nominal US dollar millionaires declined by 8% as the number of nominal US dollar millionaires inside the USA increased by 63% over the past decade. Structurally and organically this UK economic deterioration is worse than it appears from the outside. It is masked by talented migrants who are keeping the UK afloat. Currently, 67 out of the UK's 146 billionaires are migrants (immigrants.) Soon it is probable that the large majority of british billionaires, millionaires, elites and top academic performers will be migrants, children of migrants, grandchildren of migrants or ethnics. Anglo saxon ethnic english are in danger of becoming an indigent underclass in their own country subsidized by migrants and ethnics similar to how the Bumiputera are subsidized in Malaysia. Leading to growing blowback and resentment among some anglo saxon ethnic english who are increasingly opposing mass migration. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1zDATt_4dVk.htmlsi=JmjTeeVeoC8P-8n4 Samo Burja sees a UK civil war as likely. A civil war encouraged, backed and supported by rich and powerful external forces and countries. And I suspect that foreign powers are already generating instability, protests, extremism riots, violence inside the UK. To resist this, how would you inspire migrants and ethnics to step up and embody self-actualization, perfection, excellence, merit; and empower all Britons (including ethnic English); and bring the British people together again.

A leftist politician is hell bent on carrying out the leftist/globalist agenda. A “conservative politician” is also hell bent on carrying out the leftist agenda, but is occasionally inconvenienced by the fact that he lives in a district of conservative voters and needs to camouflage himself.

Trump is anti-anything that gets him votes. He is also pro anything that gets him votes. In between the constant lies, of course.

Do people think he’s anti immigration??

He just doesn't want immigrants from 💩hole countries!

@@makattak88 Yes. He’s built his entire campaign on being anti immigration.

@@abyss1138 You’re a bone head, are you able to think for yourself or just what the media tells you to think?

Like what ?

@@royboy4571 try watching his videos.

Including all the gammons who overrun the Costa del sol.

In the U.S. the problem is that those currently running the country refuse to follow the law.

Let's discuss what exactly their goals are.

Konatantin Kisin is disappointingly blue-pilled and gives off definite controlled opposition vibes here. He sounds like Ben Shapiro, Jordan Peterson, or Marco Rubio.

correct, they've been able to set the frame that nearly everything revolves around short term emotion and "caring". Fact and reality are irrelevant to most debates. Hence, we've reached a point where the debate is now whether somebody can identify as a cat.

@@markw4613 - Which isn't advisable in Springfield, Ohio.

it's cos the left is archetypally feminine, and feminine people understand manipulation far better. the problem is that it takes masculine people to draw a line and take charge when hard decisions have to be made - and enforced. for a long time the masculine has been demonised into hiding but things are getting so bad it's reappearing

This is what Konstantin is missing. He thinks if we can get the elite left to relax they will become more normal. In the end he blames the right for their framing when the reality is the left sets the elites frame

This why Trump says the outrageous things. He sets the frame and creates memetics. Ex. “They’re eating the dogs”. Was not as crazy as it sounded. It dominated his otherwise poor debate performance as well as the rigged debate.

The BBC would have justified its existence if it had served as the impartial, rigorous forum for the national debate over the Woke Revolution. What it did though was surrender to it and allow itself to be a weapon for the Far Left to use against our culture and civilisation: and the Tories looked the other way and let it happen.

One You appear to be a bigot. Two Of course, but what if the skilled people come from Non-English speaking nations. Also, what is a nations cultural, values or goals. No, you just need to ensure they follow the laws of the land. If they don't they are subject to our laws and/or deportation. Three So, putting aside this strawman ( that immigrants break more laws than natural born citizens) why wouldn't you just apply the legal system to immigrants as citizens/ and or deportation, WTF. A immigrant who works, pays taxes should be able to access the same services as other citizens who pay taxes. British values, what the f**k are they.

The only ultimate goal of those debates is to see if you can put yourself into a position where you can call the other person racist. It is done at a subconscious level these days. The word 'racist' is axiomatic with 'wrong' or bad'.

My comments are blocked as well.

THE MOST unfair part of it, I’ve literally NO idea what I’ve done? I don’t insult anyone.

It's the YT AI bot. Certain words trigger it.

@@RemotelySkilled It's quite widely documented. Look into it.

ollvebranch you tube are globalist gob sh*ts

Cos they are commies... No facts just ideology.

How can Britain attract more talented and skilled immigrants and students from Africa and the rest of the world?

Start calling the left "compost" and then make it true.

50 years is not a short time

@shabbos-goy9407 didn't realize they been operating that long.

Yes.. Subversion. Its taken a lot of time

This is 100% true

Religion is just culture, and culture comes from the genes of the population. Whenever migrants from lesser cultures reach a critical number, they start making copies of their failed state motherlands

then you are retarded. Nobody wants this brazilification. No ethnic european majority would willingly want this. Ask them. Do a referendum if they want your brazilification vision or if they want to remain majority european.

You need to go home.

@@PhanTasmGoriA Far right extremist I see. Wonder what it's like to have an 80 IQ. Gotta love the irony of being the same level of IQ with the people you hate lmao.

The 40+ year old native who gets replaced by a "legal" (but morally illegal) migrant, who's cheaper and younger and does as he's told regardless, couldn't care less.

@@PhanTasmGoriA It's not your home either

@@erik_dk842 the burden of proof is on you on why legal immigration is immoral. Being this far right and on Konstatin's channel is absurd at worst, and ironic at best.

Really, what about the positives of immigration ?

@@royboy4571 As said in this video, their are positive and negatives. It’s a spectrum. If the sides only see only positive effects at a certain level within that spectrum it’s not a debate, it’s an agreement.

@@mustang607 The positives are only short sighted for business owners. It's a race to the bottom. Once a trade starts to rely on immigrants, the working conditions become intolerable for native workers, and soon it's migrants only.

@@royboy4571 The rich get cheaper labour. The politicions get more obedient and docile voters. The people get more poverrty and less democracy.

America for Americans -- and Westerners eager to assimilate and embrace our Christian values.

Then get your greedy fingers out of Africa.

Define European

@@PeterBarkerMusiceasy. Anyone with the rich European blood meaning their parents, grandparents etc who are European means they are European. When I mean Europe for Europeans I mean Europe belongs to us since we have been here for thousands of years and built our own cultures through hard work and survival and the fact some guy from Iran can get more benefits,more rights and are able to build families in our continents and communities and get called racist just because we want to stay a majority population all around Europe that is not only racist towards us but people don’t realise the damage it’s doing. I want Asia to look majority Asian and Africa to look majority African but I’m not saying that people can’t live in Europe all I’m saying is we need a limited population considering we have the smallest continent as well there’s only so many people u can have but now there’s so much immigration etc that we could end up becoming extinct

@darwinodriscoll7750 I understand your sentiment but I think there's a lot of obvious questions to be asked here. Firstly, would you not consider 2nd, 3rd, 4th etc generation immigrants to be "real" Europeans? If an Iranian couple moves to, say, France, and then continues their family line there, their kids will grow up speaking French as a first (and potentially only) language, will grow up in France, accustomed to French culture and customs. Sure, not all first generation immigrants integrate at the same rate, but their kids do way more often than not, and even more so for their grandkids and further on. Could this family line at any point, become European in your eyes, or are they always strictly Iranian because of their ancestry? If so, then surely by the same logic, white Americans and Canadians aren't truly American or Canadian, since their ancestry lies in Europe. Nobody is truly anything but African, since all humans originate from Africa. I don't really think their ancestry/ethnicity has much to do with anything in this case. Their national identity, by my lights, is far more important than their ancestry. Not all white Europeans have their ancestry in the nation they're from, and yet their identity still corresponds to their nationality, not the region of their ancestry. Such is the case for me, in fact: I was born and raised in England, with one of my parents being white English and the other being Nigerian (am I a real European by the way?), and yet my national identity lies completely with England/the UK, not with Nigeria... because I've never been to Nigeria. Sure, I appreciate the part of my heritage that lies in Nigeria, and I think it's kinda cool that I have that ancestry in me, but at the end of the day I consider myself to be an Englishman. To tie me to my ancestry rather than my actual national identity is kinda silly to me. I also don't understand what you mean when you say a man coming from Iran has "more rights" than you. Maybe you can expand upon that? And as for them building families in the continent; should we not consider it a good thing that people want to move to European countries and start lives there? Is this not an indicator of the nation being prosperous and full of opportunities? I'm obviously not saying we should allow unlimited immigration in every country, or something - there's gonna be economic and social considerations to make, but on the whole, why is non-European people moving to Europe to start families necessarily bad? And look, I know you will swear to not being racist and all, but when you say "I want Europe to look majority European, Asia to look majority Asian etc", it's obvious what you mean there; "European" is simply a stand-in for "white". What you're implying here is that it doesn't matter what non-white people in Europe do or what attitudes they hold; they could have all or most of the same values and beliefs that you do, but that wouldn't matter because the concentration of melanin in their skin is just a little too much, or they don't have all the same features as you, and having too many of those people is inherently bad and we need to keep their numbers low in Europe. This position is categorically a racist one in my eyes. It completely ignores the content of character of non-white people in Europe, and reduces them down to their physical features. Why does the way we look matter? Should it not be about who we are as people? If it's simply about culture, then you should be completely fine with non-white people who assimilate into the local culture. A black person born and raised in Italy is gonna be, in many ways, a completely different person to a black person born and raised in Senegal, for example. Sorry about the insanely long response; just a few points I think it's necessary to consider.

The latter is only true for certain African countries. Unless an African wins the diversity lottery, gets married to an American, or gets sponsored as a refugee, the pathway to obtain a green card is one of the most complicated in the world.

Go to google and type in 'political map of the world' - it is divided into nation states. That's politics.

Poland... Hungary

@@neilchapman4037 Read "Western"

@@jonbaxter2254 Apparently, as part of EU / Nato - they are the west!

Denmark or Sweden are more tight on imigration

Course not cos all are controlled....

You seem to be one of those types who assumes legal immigration is good.

@@laughinggiraffe9176 is it bad?

You allow yourself nothing to stop it

Exactly. The law is the law. The debate should be about what to do about a lawless government.

And your replacement last sentence ensures your replacement.

I'm with the first commenter. Until the ones in charge are the ones who feel fear nothing will change. Sad that you English have exactly zero sets of balls in the whole country.

Brexit. Done.

And on the immigration slider; the baby boomers never needed thT

It’s less about political donations and more about government payments to so called non profits.

Farage knows the sad truth. Most citizens of western countries have no stomach for mass deportations. As soon as leftist news blasts videos of crying kids begging for mommy 24 hours a day people will fold like a cheap suit.

Because we are close to or even past the point of no return now. "Politics is the art of the possible" as a politician like Farage knows well.

Farage is all about Farage, just look at his income sources over the past two decades - he is effectively the globalists court jester.

They want it to happen fast so the people no longer have a voice, they get drowned out.

So long as one assimilates into the local culture, they are English. Issue is assimilation. Using ur logic, Italians who immigrated into the uk are not English, though they're been around for 60 yes and the Slavs for 30

NO ONE’S ASKED TO BE INVADED