He didn't actually give a reason for why the campaign failed. 1: The Turks knew about it months before it happened. When the ships sailed for Turkey from Egypt, people were holding banners that read " Good Luck in Gallipoli " 2: There was ZERO reconnaisance done of the landing beaches. No maps were available for the troops that survived the initial landings so they couldn't provide targeting information to the battleships anchored offshore, or find their way through the ravines and razorback ridges. 3: There were no boats moored to guide the landing tugs in. 4: The British Generals has zero respect for their Turkish enemy and expected them to run or surrender at the first shot. 5: There were many well sited machineguns facing the landing ship.... not just riflemen. 6: The Turks had better Generals and suicidally brave soldiers.7: The British General Commanding was 61 years old and had not had a combat command since the Boer War. He also had a sore knee and stayed aboard a ship, with the only communication available being rowboats that brought hopelessly out of date messages. He was asleep on board at the time of the landing at Suvla Bay. Lest We Forget.
Also, the British had tried naval penetration with warships, losing several and had also tried naval bombardment of shore installations. Several failed attempts so the Turks expected an attack.
Dude, pick up number 5. Never underestimate Any people who defend their families, cause they have a real reason to fight and eventually die. Furthermore Turks have a military history of over 2000 years, they are brave people with pride who would never surrender.
@@alanbingham5883 yep the anzacs were used as cannon fodder to clear the strait of artillery which were playing havoc on the RN minesweepers (who were attempting to clear mines which had played havoc on the RN’s precious, yet outdated, battleships).
My great grandfather was a technical expert who was send to help defend Gallipoli as part of the German detachment. He actually received a medal from the Ottomans, which is still in the family. After the war he was detained in Constantinople by the British. Situation there was apparently a lot better than in Germany at the time and he was pretty free to roam around the city, so he didn't mind that much.
mmmmm. interesting. Have you watched the 3 part series by (type in) The Corbett Report Extras The WW1 Conspiracy (Full Documentary | 2018) ? PS I love Germany and know the history of your great nation quite well. Please watch the documentary.
My grandfather was at the Dardanelles. When he reached his anecdotage he would tell me his life story over and over but he never, ever, spoke of it. He would get to the point where he would say "And they shipped us off to the Dardanelles..." and he would grow silent for a few minutes before restarting his story with his return home.
I visited Gallipoli in 2019. My Grandfather came here in 1915 with the Wellingtons in the NZ Division and made it briefly to the top of Chunak Bair. I was very impressed with how the Turks have kept the graves of their enemies so beautiful. I said this to our host in Eceabat "We are Muslims," he said "We must honour our enemies."
I don't think it has anything to do about being Muslim. This is a result of Atatürk's "Peace at home, peace in the world" policy. You can also read the letter he wrote to the mothers of the fallen.
@@ugurrr Yes. You're probably right. We in New Zealand know his letter to the mothers of the fallen very well. "Your sons are our sons etc" He is well respected here too. I also read it at the Turkish Cemetery at Gallipoli.
I was on the beach at the Dawn service in 99'. My Grandfather was a medic at the Somme, I was raised in Australia and remember being a banner carrier as a cadet in the 1970s when there were still Veterans of this campaign at our ANZAC day marches. The thing that struck me that day during the 7 or so services I attended was the Turkish memorial and the regard Kemal Attaturk had for his country's invaders and their bravery when he wrote the letter telling the mothers their sons would be held in the bosom of their people. I cried. The sad thing is our politicians fail to understand and respect War and continue to create them due to their own greed and vanity whilst kissing the heels of the self appointed World leader.
The graves at Gallipoli are not maintained by the Turks. They are maintained, like those in France, Burma, Egypt and elsewhere, by the CWGC, the Commonwealth War Graves Commission.
I was in Turkey, Gallipoli in 1990. Just that terrain brought tears to my eyes. Having had a great uncle serve in France in WW1, then my late father & five uncles in WW2, I guess I got some kind of understanding of what ALL of them went through. The Turks were only defending their homeland. I said it at the time & I still say it, the Turkish people were the nicest, kindest & respectful people I’d ever met, during my backpacking through Asia & Europe. I hope to come back one day when we can safeLy travel without covid. Respect & love from Australia 🇦🇺👍🏼♥️
Turkish people are some of the nicest people on the planet. It's in their bones. Remember what Mustafa Kemal said about ANZAC casualties shortly after the war; it wasn't mere hyperbole.
@@PsilocybinCocktail These being the same nice people who built the ottoman Empire on a caliphate? Is it the same people you are calling kind? These "nice people may have been fighting to protect land...but it was land stolen of others. If you reread your history about Constantinople, you would realize the horrors these people created for the world. Syria today...the 600 year old ottoman empire, The armenian Genocide, and so on. The One man...tired of war and mayhem...does not represent Turkish people as a whole. Are they honorable people . Yes. That they were....but don't mix that up with "nice" people. The history of the ottoman empire was not Hyperbole either...as any Anzac that fought in the middle east and that was at the charge on Beersheba could well have told you. I live in Mexico these days...And here are some of the nicest people you will ever meet too. But we all know what happens when the lights go down and the killing starts. They are only nice because you are a tourist and they need what you have. Its the way of the world...and of mankind!
@Kayra Kara I am not a victim of Turkey...but many of the middle east were victims of them...and many are today..... it is turkey that needs to get out of others gardens...or it will be beersheba and Jerusalem all over again. One battle isn't anything...the war is what Turkey lost in 1917..... along with their oh so magnificent empire of hate and hurt. There was a reason anzacs came to your land in the first world war....and a reason why your great nation paid such a terrible price in the end. We didnt act all cowardly and ask you to leave....we ended up kicking your butts all over the place. Only victims was Turkey. You know what a turkey is, right?
An interesting historical fact about this military campaign from the Turkish side is that Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, as a young Lt. Col., was given the command of the 19th Reserve Division, situated quite near to Gallipoli. At the beginning of the campaign, he was stationed in Bulgaria and he asked for a transfer to the war zone. The chief of general staff, Enver Pasha, who knew Mustafa Kemal's accomplishments and his leadership qualities, saw him as a rival despite the fact that his rank was much lower. Thus, he sent him to Gallipoli, where the landings were not expected at all. The Turkish General Staff together with the Germans thought that the Allies would land further north in the Gulf of Saros and that's where they were waiting with most of their troops. However, in the very early hours of April 25, 1915, when the first Ally troops landed in Gallipoli, a Turkish obsevation post gave information of suspicious enemy activity to the nearest military camp, which was the 19th Reserve Division of Mustafa Kemal. He instantly knew that this was the main landing and mobilized his 57th Regiment of 2000 men. He had them sneak into Gallipoli without being seen by the enemy while it was dark and without informing higher command of what he was doing because of some news of suspicious enemy activity. He knew that going through channels would cost him precious time, which he hadn't. In his memories he recalls, "when we had finally reached the landing spot in the early morning, the enemy was much closer to me than my regiment that was still taking its position." There he gave his famous command, "I order you not to fight but to die. In the time that it takes us to die, our forces and commanders will come and take our place." This tactical order of him was given because of the desperate situation in which they were. The main landing of the Allies had started and the headquarters of the Turkish Army with its divisions was many miles away. He changed the course of the war all by himself, and may they rest in peace, all 2000 soldiers of the 57th Regiment gave their lives.
I have visited Turkey several times. The Turkey of today is a far cry from the nation that Ataturk helped to create. Turkey today is an Islamic dictatorship under Erdogan. It persecutes Christians and seeks to drive the. Out of the country. Why did the Turkish people abandon the modern republic that Ataturk founded for an Islamic dictatorship that is turning Turkey back hundreds of years?
The Gallipoli landing was said to be complete fuck up...but bear in mind it was Churchill himself who masterminded this invasion. Just as Ataturk was there on his part, so as not to have any real battle to fight...I am of the opinion that Churchill knew damn well where he was dropping these soldiers off...and did so as a decoy to allow British troops to walk ashore further along the coast. He never expected the untested Australians to put in such a stellar performance and stay put, hence the reinforcing began. But then...there stood Ataturk up front also. Two great nations came out of one historical fuckup.
@@sqnhunter with respect you are talking twaddle. Churchill thought up the scheme but it was the generals and admirals who worked out the battle plan but which still made Churchill responsible. The landing at Anzac was unopposed. As for the British walking ashore, 6 VCs were won when the British landed. Where do you learn your history.
@@sqnhunter you will be pleased to know that later in the campaign Aussies soldiers refused to attack from the trenches as they were scared. You had you share of cowards.
@@anthonyeaton5153 , I think that's called common sense, not cowardice, you can't blame them for not wanting to die needlessly, for the obvious stupidity of British Generals and Staff Officers. To accuse these men of cowardice is shameful, and reflects more the attitudes of those times, leading to greater and greater losses.
"Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... you are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours... You the mothers who sent their sons from far away countries wipe away your tears. Your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
@@sulistyopudjo6433 It does....he was not only a great statesman...but he stood in front of those men he complemented, and knew the worth of both sides better than anyone else. Its a real man who can praise his enemy for his courage, after loosing so much to them. Its called respect!
I've visited a lot of battlefields having grown up near Gettysburg, Pennsylvania, and not easily prone-to-tears, but when I visited Gelibolu and read this inscription at the memorial I could not speak for the huge lump in my throat. Now whenever I think of Lincoln's Gettysburg Address, I'm reminded of this quote by Mustafa Kemal as well. I like to think Lincoln would have quickly tipped his stove-pipe hat to Kamal in honor of such a touching sentiment.
I was in Gallipoli in 1980, & if there was any piece of land that was the worst place for the ANZACs to land it was Anzac Cove, & it was all Churchill's fault, he picked the site. However, the Turkish people made us very welcome, & have looked after the graves of all the fallen, theirs & ours, with great care. My personal thanks to every Turkish person who has cared for this site for the last 100 years plus.
My great uncle was there with the Lancashire Fusiliers. Awarded the DCM for bravery and was wounded. He thankfully survived and I knew him as a young boy.
You only meet the nice ones bro...the government purposely keeps the major population away from the visitors to stop their rising antagonism towards the west with a new onslaught of radical islam running the country.
My great uncle was here with the Canterbury Mounted Rifle Regiment. His name was George, like so many others he never made it back from this place, he was 27. Greetings from NZ.
My father was on Gallipoli as a stretcher bearer working at casualty clearing stations. He was on the last boat to leave at the evacuation and was asked to stay on incase of casualties at the end. His work with Bob Hawke and the Turkish government led to the official naming of ANZAC Cove on all maps. He was secretary of the Gallipoli Legion of Anzacs for many years in Sydney and lived until 1985. He also saw the western front after Gallipoli with the 14th Field ambulance (55th battalion). My sister and I, along with my wife went to Gallipoli for the 100th commemoration in 2015. One is surprised at how small the area is that was under constant fire. Once there, the troops had no respite and it amazed us all at how anyone survived. My dad also held the Turks in high esteem and being honourable and at the 70th commemoration when he went back with the official party for that commemoration he was able to meet with Turkish veterans. What an awful fiasco. Lest we forget.
@@alanbingham5883 I see. Even its from second hand its quite intriguing to listen to such stories.Thank you for sharing your story. And by the way today I have finished the german wikipedia article about Anzac cove landing.
My paternal grandfather lied about his age to join up and was at Gallipoli when he was 16. He survived and was sent to the Western Front, where he was wounded on the Somme. Different generation...
My grandfather signed up when he was just 14 in 1915. They found out...yet assigned him to navy and kept him on safe shipping most of the time. they knew he would just go and join at another recruiting station like so many other young ones. He survived thanks to compassionate types back then. Many not so lucky.
my great grandfather was a reg. in 1914 and ended up in turkey and northern france too he was 38 at the time, i think he had served time in the boer before that
Thank you once more History Hit. My Great Grandfather was in the “Dub’s”, and landed on Gallipoli from the “River Clyde”. He survived the horrors of the landing and managed to huddle some how on the beach. He had already fought in Europe by this stage, and went on to live through the whole of the War. My uncle asked him how he did it, the answer was “I could crawl, slide and slither lower than anybody else !” He spoke about how the officers on the River Clyde shot anyone who refused to disembark down the gang plank , which was under heavy fire. Hard stuff, tough people. War is just nasty, plain and simple.
It was sheer madness, but they landed in the wrong place. They were supposed to land a south at Gaba Tepe where the terrain was less harsh and there was more or less flat land to the other coast. You can blame Churchill and more so the commanders for a lot, but not a mistake made in the dark by the men on the ground.
@@harrycurrie9664 I just feel bad for the Frenchies. Lost more soldiers than the Aussies but get literally zero recognition. Bet you didn't even know they were there.
@@grassic Good point. Also it gave the Anzacs a fighting chance to move inland as the Turks had not identified it as a suitable point for making a landing. For this reason it was not well defended. Had the Anzacs landed where they had planned to, they would have received a welcome like the English regiments did at Cape Helles.
My grandfather was part of the British army at Gallipoli. Landed at Suvla Bay. Badly injured, lost an eye, invalided back to England via Malta. Lived until he was 94. Now I know this was a campaign when the Australian troops suffered. But did you know more French soldiers died in the Gallipoli campaign than Australians?
my great grandfather landed here with the 1st inniskilling fusiliers in the british 29th div. he was injured and lay in no-mans for 3 days before being picked up by stretchers, he was put on a hospital boat to egypt, by the time he recoverd the gallipoli campaign was over and he was shipped off to the somme for july 1916, he was shot in the neck and survived and was sent back home to county down he died from the neck wound in 1919
My great-grandfather took a Turkish bullet in 1917, on Umbrella Hill, during a night-op of the 3rd Battle of Gaza. Deep racism and maybe hint of war-time 'spin' has led to the notion, even to this day, that Turkish people and their fighters are lesser beings. The Turkish nation had a huge, enlightened and stable empire and they are hard, clever, passionate people. Considering the odds, the ANZACs achieved much during that nasty campaign. Never forget.
It's not about the cause or doctrine, Kayra, but the senseless waste of young men. All men. 66,000 Turkish soldiers troops lost their lives in the defence of Gallipoli and they have the fine and deserved Çanakkale Martyrs' memorial at Cape Helles. My great-grandfather died fighting the Turks outside Jerusalem, where no Scotsman, Turk or German belonged. It is almost certain the Turkish soldier who killed him, died too. Human zero-sum. This is the reason that the concept of the Unknown Soldier is so powerful. He represents all soldiers. When a politician dies, one man dies. When a politician starts a war, an entire generation of men die. Bad maths...
My great grandfather was part of the Lancashire Fusiliers at W beach during the Gallipoli campaign, he was wounded four seperate times in the 8 month campaign in one his best friend unfortunately didn't survive being blown up by an artillery shell and in another he had one of his little fingers shot off. He went on to fight at the Somme and Passchendaele winning a military medal for taking out a German machine gun nest that was holding up their regiment in the later.
Over half these casualties (73,485) were British and Irish troops. New Zealand suffered around 8000 killed and wounded, about 5.6 percent of Allied casualties on Gallipoli.
That's true. My great grandfather was 2nd lieutenant in the Royal Munster Fusiliers. 2/3 of them became causalities. My great grandfather was wounded in action after his patrol was nearly wiped out. He was shot in the upper chin and another bullet lodged in the chest, which was never removed. He survived after 10 weeks in hospital, the bullet to chin came at an angle too. He was then sent to the western front and was in the later stage of the Somme many other big battles of 1916/17.
2022 our first ANZAC DAY at Gallipoli in two years. We will always remember them. Watch the live telecast and it was so serene hearing the soft lap of water upon the shore. A perfect resting place for our ANZAC. I served in the Aust Army for 4 years and joined at the age of 47. It was the best experience of my life and Proud of the Catafalque parties I was involved in and ANZAC DAY MARCHES IN SYDNEY. Very Proud to be 🇦🇺 Australian.
These words attributed to Ataturk are inscribed on a memorial at ANZAC Cove "Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives; You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from far away countries, wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well." Ataturk, 1934
I’ve read a lot of the history of Gallipoli campaign before I visited Turkey in 2015 and believe me when I toured the battlefield’s of Gallipoli the hairs on my neck stood up. At Lone Pine I shed tears imagining the carnage and struggle of the ANZACs as they stormed up the steep slopes to engage Turkish troops defending it.
"They shall not grow old, as we, who are left grow old, Age shall not weary them, nor, the years contemn, But, at the going-down of the Sun, and in the morning, we will remember them: We WILL Remember Them." --- Laurence Binyon. With Eternal Respect to My ANZAC Cousins, Kind and Respectful Regards, Uyraell, NZ.
Basically once the trenches were dug from Switzerland to the Baltic, the war was a stalemate until the invention and deployment of the tank. Both sides would have done much better to have called it off and gone back to the peace talks. The premise of WW1 was idiotic from the get go, and the endless slaughter set up Europe for WW2.
The treaty of Versailles was the main cause of WW2. Without it the German people wouldn't have needed a saviour and the Nazis wouldn't have come to power.
@@XaviRonaldo0 There is a lot more to that than you think. You had monsters in high circles (like Richard Counehoven Kalergi) who were planning things a certain man didn't like. Which led to his bitterness of what happened during the first World War and those who in all essence forced it to happen grew.
5:48 you should definitely visit Arco, south Tirol (Italy). I've hiked through the bunkers looking down the mountains to the flat ground. I think the decision of attacking Austria was taken by someone who has never been there. The height difference is so large that even Anakin would try it :D
One of the best breakdowns of a campaign that I've watched. Beautiful, mate,
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I don't watch to video but i want to say something about this war. We just fighted for our independence. We just defend our lands. We kill a lot of Anzac and they kill our soldiers. But Anzacs have our respect because they fighted with their honor. They wasn't our enemy, our enemy was UK but they send to Anzacs.. Two oppressed nation killed themselfs.UK just watched this war. This is really sad. They said to Anzacs "Turks are cannibal, if you don't kill them, they will eat you"... This words from Anzac soldier's memory books.. This is terrible.. Anyways, Anzacs always have our respect, our great leader Mustafa Kemal Atatürk(Commander of our independence War) said something for Anzacs : Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives. You are now living in the soil of a friendly country therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side here in this country of ours. You, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land they have become our sons as well.
At V beach On top of the cliff facing the fortress of Sedd al Bahr there is a nice diorama of the action with a big model of River Clyde in it. Our friend Dan Snow just needed to look at it to see something was wrong.
The landing wasn't a matter of being lost, they were off course, and when Hamilton, who was leading the ANZACS at the time, said "We're landing anyway", it was game over. He was alerted to it being the wrong beach, but went ahead with the landing anyway.
@@MCshadr217 what went down then youre telling me British command who had oversight and command of Anzac troops didn't throw them into the front line. Yeah right
An excellent video. Dan Snow's great grandfather Capt. Carey Evans of the Indian Medical Service was a Doctor at Gallipoli. His unit provided medical support for the Indian Artillery, who used mules to transport their guns and ammunition. The ANZAC hero John Simpson Kirkpatrick camped with the Indian's because they had large quantites of animal fodder. The Indian troops refered to him as a 'bahadur' - meaning 'the bravest of the brave', because of his many escapes when carrying wounded men to safety on the back of his donkey.
I have visited Turkey several times beginning in 2000. Why did the Turkish people abandon the modern republic that Ataturk founded in order to establish an Islamic dictatorship under Erdogan? Shame!
@Kayra Kara The truth is propaganda to those that hate the truth. I have visited Turkey several times from 2000 to 2014. I was in downtown Istanbul when the Erdogan government was attacking protesters who wanted to keep the freedoms that the Erdogan government wanted to take away. It is sad to see what has happened to the great Turkish Republic that Ataturk founded. We can only hope that the Turkish people rise up and restore the dream of Ataturk.
Did you guys also know that the first dawn service was not held until three years after the Gallipoli landings and the first dawn service in Australia was held in Brisbane
I was there in 2007...spent many weekends there walking the beach...diving...meeting Ausies...Kiwis...Brits...Turks...seeing the concrete bunkers...honoring the dead in the cemetery...turned around and saw Joseph Ashley...Burried there at the hill top cemetery...my Grand father served in France in WW1
Please go back and check some of your source material. The ANZACs were actually put ashore on the beaches that General Birdwood had decided that they should be. He was not happy with the landing areas that had been nominated in the original plan and so he changed the plan. He carried out extensive reconnaissance, via personal observation from a destroyer (even going to the extent of dressing in Naval Uniform whilst on the bridge) as well as ariel photography. He noted that the original landing beaches were protected by extensive wire entanglements below the waterline; as you point out was also the case elsewhere on the peninsular. As at W and V beaches the area was also covered by well-placed machine guns and entrenched infantry in large numbers. Gen Birdwood noticed a small cove where there were no wire entanglements and very little breastworks or entrenched infantry. He picked that beach, now ANZAC Cove, and what is now known as North Beach, to be the point of the attack. Unfortunately for the ANZACs: the reason that the Turks had not established any significant defences in that area was due to the terrain being a natural defence. When the attack failed and the objectives of the day were not realised: General Birdwood wrote a letter to his wife and blamed the currents for 'taking the boats off course'. The Royal Commission in 1919 bore that out. Two of my Great Uncles fought at Gallipoli and went on to deploy to France: they were fortunate to have made it through the war and returned to the families. I visited Gallipoli in 2002 and can only say that my admiration for all who fought and died in that campaign grew exponentially! Interestingly: The Gallipoli Campaign was the focal point of planning for the D-Day invasion of 1944. Both sides studied the cmapaign to try to determine the actions required to win the day. The Nazi command, under Field Marshal Rommel, planned to annihilate the invaders on the beach. The Allies knew that it was imperative to get off the beach on the one day or lose! Rommel almost succeeded, but allied supremacy at sea and in the air overcame the planning and guaranteed allied success on the ground. That and the willingness of the infantry and supporting arms to maintain the momentum. Lest We Forget.
Allies had a secret weapon, it was Called the Sleeping Hitler. If Rommel had full control, D Day may not have been a success. I like your comment s well, well written and concise. Cheers
The German defences were undermanned due to the thought that opposed beach landings with modern defences (machine guns) could not succeed, thanks to what happened at Gallipoli.
@@anaussie213 allied deception was the biggest factor. Operation Fortitude. This involved things like inflatable tanks, fake troops and fake invasions, it was genius
Gallipoli or properly The Dardenelles was not the blue print for DDay if anything it was the antithesis of D Day. Where was the airpower etc. The Canadian led Landings at Dieppe in 1942 was a more likely the blueprint.
If I ever got to visit Gallipoli I think I would be bawling my eyes out. Just looking at those cliffs. It's little wonder it was like lambs to the slaughter. Winston Churchill may have been a great PM but he was a terrible strategist
And no great friend of Australia. Gallipoli in WW1 and in WW2 he wanted to let the Japanese take Australia while our troops were in North Africa. We'll win it back later he famously is reported to have said. Thankfully the Australian PM said no and brought the Australian troops back from the middle east into PNG where they stopped the Japanese at Kokoda.
@@alanbingham5883 in one sense though… is he not wrong? Australia would’ve probably beaten Japan with a handicapped army. Japan were overwhelmingly incompetent due to their arrogance, this is part of the reason why they kept committing horrible crimes, out of anger for how much longer it had taken. Bare in mind they’d been indoctrinated from a young age to believe that they could genuinely take all of Asia, so when they tried to take the British Raj they didn’t even bring enough food, and retreated due to starvation. Now imagine that same army in the outback… lmaooo the wildlife would kill them before Australian troops could
those young anzac and turkish soldiers lost their lives but they have presented us an ever lasting friendship. An anzac soldier means a lot for us. Bravery, courage, honor, pride an much more.....
What a cock up. They were slaughtered by the crossfire and the shrapnel from bombs. Lack of planning meant they had no idea of the terrain and enemy that they were taking on.
arkadas olmak icin binlerce insanin olmesine gerek yoktu.Hic gelmemis olsalardi ve hic kimse olmeseydi.Umarim gecmis savaslar ornek olurda gelecekte artik savaslar olmaz.
Considering only 51 thousand allied soldiers died...that would mean Turkey suffered horribly, even if it held the high ground. The battles were one thing.. the sickness and hunger were the real enemy of the Turks, making it a very bitter win for Turkey. Ataturk realized that Turkey could no longer afford to be enemies with such people. Hence the reason we became friends, especially how Australians at Beersheba and throughout the middle east caused the routing of the ottoman empire at its final moments. I would certainly offer the hand of friendship to such people also. But, A friendship it has indeed been. Marked with honor off the Fighters and fallen of both sides. But tragically...it may be marred by the actions of a radical faction of Turkish politics today....those men that do not remember nor have honor themselves. Those pushing for the old ways of conquest to return again.... which will see Turkey and its people suffer again....ten fold in these modern days of warfare. Greetings and Kudos, Brother! Live well and go with god in your hearts.
Those heroes that shed their blood and lost their lives... You are now lying in the soil of a friendly country. Therefore rest in peace. There is no difference between the Johnnies and the Mehmets to us where they lie side by side now here in this country of ours... you, the mothers, who sent their sons from faraway countries wipe away your tears; your sons are now lying in our bosom and are in peace. After having lost their lives on this land. They have become our sons as well." M.KEMAL ATATÜRK
I spoke to a Scottish soldier who said they had no instructions. Just milled round on the beach. I still have his second war Roles Royce security badge. He survived Gallipoli and spent the whole second war as a metal polisher. He said Gallipoli was a disaster. Came to Australia where i met him.
@@pavel3659some turks are brown some turks are white U cah find a lot of white Turks if u walk around a little Not as white as Germans or Nordics tho haha
Very interesting. However, the question "*Why* were the Gallipoli landings so disastrous?" is not answered. We only hear *that* the Gallipoli landings were so disastrous. The reasons were incompetence on the part of allied leadership, and extraordinary efforts from the Ottoman soldiery.
@@nadirhikmetkuleli7335 Terrain is a huge factor in any battle. If the terrain had been flatter the British would have held a lot more land before being bogged down in trench warfare. The question then becomes would it have been enough to allow British warships through the Straits? Were the British and their allies going to head to Constantinople? No way. But if the British held enough of the strait, Constantinople could have been bombarded by British warships. With all the bravery of the Trukish troops, they were helped by the terrain. Honestly I think if the planners knew of the actual terrain, it wouldn't have been given a go, or would have been very different.
Some recent research has shown that the landing on anzac wasn't that bad even though they landed in the wrong area and would have been much worse if they had landed in the correct area. The fact they were able to climb and not get stuck on the beach is testiment to this. The problem came because the ottomans realised that the Anzac attack was the more critical one and they put most of their effort in to stopping them while they had the poms pinned down on the beaches in the south. Most Anzac casualties came from the ottoman counter attack later in the day then the actual landing.
That stretch of land has seen its fair share of wars as it connects Asia and Europe. Also watch Battlefield Detectives The Gallipoli Catastrophe which takes an in-depth look at the whole campaign and shows other issues the soldiers had to deal with, such as undrinkable water.
Keith, you are confusing 2 different offices.Churchill was First Lord of the Admiralty, effectively Minister for the Navy.First Sea Lord was a naval officer rank.
He didn't resign. He was demoted...completely different thing. After being demoted to the ceremonial position of Chancellor of the Duchy of Lancaster, he was hurt and demoralized. Publically humiliated in fact. Winston Churchill resigned from the government altogether after that and left for the Western Front with the rank of Lieutenant Colonel! And yes... the position he held in government war cabinet was actually First Lord of the admiralty. His demotion was a real vote of no confidence. Surprised he didn't neck himself after that disgrace, lol :P
@@globaltravelerindia1294 If his planning of the Dardanelles was any pretense of his leadership abilities...I would place him as the words greatest pretender, riding on the back of his militaries finest. I could say a lot of things to make sense in times of war...but ultimately...the strategies and completion of orders comes from the ranks...the men he stole glory from. He was just another dime a dozen government official who just happened to hold office at a time when the world was watching. It needed hero's...and he was made one. Deserving it is an entirely different scenario.
4.46 My great grandfather is buried in one of those graves. He was a marine on the SS clyde. He went with some other soldiers and an officer to try and get some of wounded back on board. All died. The officer got the Victoria cross which tells you all you need to know about the British class system. The bodies were buried in a very shallow mass grave just up from the beach and had to be moved after animals started dragging body parts out and fresh arrivals kept putting their feet through the corpses just below the surface. War is hell.
All Australians and Kiwis are schooled on the Gallipoli campaign and the horrific losses. No one ever mentions that the French committed a similar amount of troops and had similar casualties. The Anzacs were fighting in far flung lands for the folly of “empire” so were all at sea anyway, but why French generals left their homes and villages to attack Turkey, I’ll never know. I suppose they had their own ideas of empire in the Middle East, but there were German trenches not far from Paris, and none in Sydney or London.
One of my favorite books is Birds Without Wings by Louis de Berniers. It’s a beautiful, tragic and poetic narrative set during WWI, the Battle of Gallipoli takes place about halfway through the book. “Man is a bird without wings and a bird is a man without sorrows” Iskander the Potter
Dan Snow needs to visit the Australian War Memorial Museum and speak to the military historians there who will put him right as to what went wrong at Anzac Cove. That beach is almost exactly in the middle of the stretch of coast line identified for the landing. There was not an opposition force in depth, certainly no machine guns which were held in reserve. The landing troops were stopped by a brigade commander before they reached their objective on the heights. He had no confidence in the plan and he also convinced the following brigade commander to not proceed. This allowed the Turks to get reinforcements and bring down a withering fire on the ANZAC forces who were lower down the slopes. If the troops had not been stopped the outcome may have been very different. What passes for the truth in Australia was the media spin put up to account for why the landings had not succeeded. It is about time the real story was told.
My great grandfather Thomas Joseph canny was a lighthorseman and served with the Australian 10th light horse regiment in Gallipoli and then with the 9th light horse regiments at famous charge of Beersheba 31st Oct 1917
@@anthonyeaton5153 They did send inexperienced troops to Gallipoli in order to keep the experienced troops on the Western front. Again, that's on the high command.
Oop the war must have been dark and bloody. My teachers normally just say this part only "many of the soldiers died in the war and poppies were growing on battlefield" they never told me Australia and New Zealand were the anzacs
Oh do shut up, Argentinians couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag, get the chip off your shoulder and do something productive,find love,write a song, just chill out
The horrors of this landing are remembered in the song "And the band played Waltzing Matilda" (Eric Bogle) - but I recommend listing the Dubliners cover.
Great grandfather was transferred from the Royal Irish regiment after he landed at Suvla to the Royal Munster Fusiliers because most of their previous officer core had been made casualties already.
Respected friend on that day 14 British and 371 Indian casualties happens respect dear honourable friend nothing matter but to Martyr keep it on love u dear .Salute all the bravest people .
idk if its a stupid question but. why did the not use smoke? same in normandy. isnt it very usefull to cover the defenders in smoke so your troops can land safely?
My father was at Gallipoli with the Warwickshire Regiment. He got shot in the upper left arm, casivated to Malta, then to Blithy. Medical discharge in 1918 at the Gloucester Regiment as he couldn't hold a rifle.. In some ways he was lucky to survive. He did mention that , the Warwickshire Regiment wanted anyone to become Officers as the Regiment had lost so many being killed at Gallipoli. He died at the age of 88. He never mentioned what he had experienced at Gallipoli. There again people don't, because we live life, today and tomorrow. Yes I am ex- army. Yep 3 tours of Bosnia and 2 of Northern Ireland.
Ben Türk'üm ve Çanakkale'de yaşıyorum her yerde Müzeler şehitlikler var ve sahilde yürürken hala kemikler ve Demir parçaları kurşunlar mermi kovanları bulabiliyoruz toprağa biraz kaldırdığında zaten hemen çıkıyor her tarafta hala kurşun duruyor Çanakkale'de yaşıyorum ve çok güzel bir yer
All I could think of when he showed the beaches was that I didn`t know the waters there looked so good, and I wanted to go swimming there. And I`m a Turk.
The original plan was put aside by Admiral Fischer, he did not want the Army involved, the navy and army were to attack at the same time. It was known that the straights were mined, and obsolete ships were used, but their loss caused panic. By the time it was decided to use the army, the Turks were ready for them.
Jack : What are your legs? Archy Hamilton : Springs. Steel springs. Jack : What are they going to do? Archy Hamilton : Hurl me down the track. Jack : How fast can you run? Archy Hamilton : As fast as a leopard. Jack : How fast are you going to run? Archy Hamilton : As fast as a leopard! Jack : Then let's see you do it!
Jamie I saw the movie many years ago and the quote that struck me most was the one from the Aussie commander who started that the British were sat on the beach drinking tea. As the video shows, nothing could be further from the truth. Like few Australian war films (including Breaker Morant), it plays fast and loose with history and fact to take a dig at the British.
Turkey had every right to defeat any country that dare to land on their shores. Sadly, the British had to learn that very expensive lesson. Young British, allies soldiers died for a "miscalculation"...
Nearly 3,000 kiwis died at Gallipoli, meanwhile on the Western Front a further 15,000 kiwis were killed. The ANZAC's fought many battles in many different places.
stelley08 I know this is an old comment but can you fuck off saying cannon fodder . Everyone was used as cannonfodder the british and commonwealth armies actually lost the least amount of men for one of the big contenders in the war.
Losing 15k kiwis losing in a war and 3k in a single battle is both different thing their was 100ds or 1000nds of battles in ww2 and losing 3k in a population of less than 1million is huge.
OK ... the reason for the failure of the campaign is in the book _Castles of Steel_ by Robert K. Massie en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castles_of_Steel The whole thing started with the German Battle Cruiser Goeben. It sought shelter from the British Chasing it in Istanbul. The Turks allowed it into the straights - and then - to keep it there since Turkey wasn't in the war yet - the Germans _gave_ the ship to Turkey - and - it's crew went with it. This ship, which was not under Turkish control, then went into the Black Sea and attacked Russian shipping - and that brought Turkey into the war. The British noted the possible effect on Turkey of the Goeben's guns sitting a few hundred yards off their Capital. And it occurred to them - that they could do the same thing. The original Plan - was to have the Army land at the *_TOP_* of the peninsula, cut across it - and therefore cut off all the Turkish units farther down. The Royal Navy had a number of obsolete Battleships which it was about to scrap any way. So it didn't care if they were lost. These ships guns were sufficient though to deal with the Turkish Forts. It was assumed that the Turks would use mines - so a flotilla of mine sweepers would clear the water ahead of the Battleships. This plan could have worked. The first thing that went wrong was - the Army didn't want to do it and refused to participate. So - the Navy thought they'd try and do it on their own. What happened then - was that the small mine sweepers were civilian boats brought into RN service - WITH their former crews - who were still civilians. This is what stalled the Naval Effort. Each time the RN tried to force the straits - as soon as they took any kind of fire, even though they took NO casualties - the civilian crews to the mine sweepers turned about and fled. So - the RN took the civilians off and began arranging for sailors to man these mine sweepers. Now - the Army - decided it would participate after all ... This put an end to the Naval Campaign - which at this point might have worked. On looking at the original plan - to land at the undefended beaches at the top of the peninsula, it was now found that the Turks - after seeing that they were being attacked - had put troops in place to defend those beaches. So - the Army was to land at the bottom of the peninsula - and fight it's way up. Given that this was WWI and Amphibious Warfare not anywhere near what it was in WWII - the landings were a mess and though they got a beach head they could bring supplies and reinforcements in at - they couldn't get out of it. Eventually - they gave up. But - if the Army had been willing to support the plan in the first place - it may have worked and Turkey knocked out of the war. If the Naval Strategy had been continued with military crews on the mine sweepers - the plan might have worked - but - once the Army was willing to participate - that plan was abandoned. So ... if the original plan had been tried - and worked - Gallipoli might today be remembered as a Brilliant Plan - instead of the disaster it became. As it was, Churchill got the blame for the failure - and lost his position with the Navy. He then joined his Regiment in France as a Battalion Commander and spent several months in the trenches. .
Thanks. Very interesting, but whomever thought it was a good idea to land that many troops on a beach and fight uphill, while the enemy was entrenched on the high ground with machine guns, should have been court marshalled.
@@davidlynch9049 The landing's weren't the problem. They got ashore OK. They didn't have landing craft but were just using Ships Boats but that was sufficient and they didn't try to land in the teeth of well fortified beaches - like Omaha Beach on D-Day. This is one of the reasons they did not try and land at the original landing sites at the top of the peninsula - because once the Turks realized something was up - they fortified _those_ beaches right away. The problem for the Army was that this was World War One ... with Trenches and Machine guns - and rapid fire artillery - so the British Empire Troops trying to advance up the peninsula - had the same problems as those in France and couldn't get any where. After some months of trying - with no room to maneuver on a thin peninsula - they gave up and the operation was abandoned. Again - if they had landed unopposed on the beaches at the top of the peninsula as in the original Navy Plan - there would have been no one there to stop them and they could have just crossed the top of the peninsula and cut the Turks off from Supplies that were farther down it - while - the Navy tried to force the channel. When the Army refused to cooperate at the start when they had a chance of success - that is what ruined the operation. The Army - with the Turks now being the ones attacking their trenches as they cut off the Turks down the peninsula - could have done the same thing to the Turks that the Turks did to them when they landed at the bottom of the peninsula (where they found lightly defended beaches) and tried to fight their way up. The plan wasn't that bad when they thought it up - but - it required a level of Army/Navy cooperation that has always been problematic no matter who was doing it. During WWII - they did so much of this - that after the Marines taught the Army how to do it - Army, Navy and Marines did this stuff a lot. Some of these operations though - even with all they knew in WWII could be very, very bloody. At Anzio - a similar thing happened. They didn't have enough troops to commit to the landings because most of them had been drawn away for the Normandy Landings on D-Day. So ... they were hesitant about advancing to far ... and they didn't take the hills right away that dominated the beach - and they got stuck there for months. They never broke out of Anzio until they broke through the German lines south of there - which the Anzio operation was supposed to cause - but didn't. 2.bp.blogspot.com/cMmM_iQcfzpZH6CvqxyHBJFyTNRFCsFoBJXZIHDQu33FKAxqrGsuPYMcDG5inaUjnZ9mY8ED23QQoGSN3kk40w87c2RJiqqsanKk87jVXV6XqX__j50inIGNGEaVVFSyaiwcBtCbZw=s1600 .
"Once, on Chunuk Bahr" ... Maurice Gee. My late GrandFather was due to be part of the 'Second Wave' reinforcements at Gallipoli. The Allied Forces withdrew before that event took-place. Subsequently: My GrandFather fought at Paschendaelle, Oct.4th, 1917 aka 3rd (and, later, 4th) battle of Ypres. His Cousin Harry Ashe was atomised by an 105mm shell, not 50 yards (metres) from where GrandDad was standing. Today: Harry is a name on an memorial wall-plaque, 103 years later. . . I was 13 or 14, at a convention with my parents: Had the Honour and Priviledge to meet a Veteran who had Been at Gallipoli in 1915. Most of what He told Me; I'll not repeat. Suffice-it-to-say: much of what the public is told nowadays, a Century Later, is 90% Less than what actually took-place. Kind and Respectful Regards to ALL the Veterans of WW1; Uyraell, NZ.
Not sure what you have in mind in terms of Churchill being held accountable but Gallipoli was pretty damaging for his career. Took him a long time to live it down. Also, one might say Churchill was hardly unique in being a WW1 political or military leader who was willing to sacrifice the lives of many ordinary Joe Soaps to advance their geopolitical plans. 'Lions led by donkeys' was a very apt phrase. Personally, I have no time for WW1-one set of empires fighting another set.I am Irish.
