Why Women are banned from this Greek State

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Mount Athos is a semi-autonomous state within northeastern Greece, with over a thousand years of history and is the spiritual centre for all of Orthodox Christianity. One of the customs practised on the holy mountain forbids any female from accessing Mount Athos, making it the only territory in the world with an all-male population. After gaining access to hundreds of photos, maps and documents and speaking to people who have worked on the mountain, we’re going to unpack what life is like on this all-male territory, and ask the question why are women banned from Mt Athos.
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• Mount Athos, part 2
Time Stamps:
0:00 - The Rabbit hole of Mt Athos
2:32 - The origins of the mountain
5:54 - The treasures of Mount Athos
7:10 - The landscape is unlike anywhere else
9:35 - Paying the bills
10:57 - Why aren't Women allowed on Mt Athos?
12:42 - Why does Greece back up this Law?
13:37 - The problem with making this video
14:05 - What is life on Mt Athos like in 2023
16:38 - Channel update Q3 2023
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@Faultlinevideos 10 месяцев назад

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@ohwhatever362 10 месяцев назад

The mountain is accessible on foot, not just by boat, at least it's possible.

@aidancollins1591 10 месяцев назад

How lovely, a researcher gives you their maps and photos for free, and then you charge for them. Not turning a profit yet I suppose?

@jamesjonnes 9 месяцев назад

I want to enter women's sports. Equality!

@HenryLeslieGraham 9 месяцев назад

mount athos doesnt translate to holy mountain. Athos was one of the Giants in greek mythology. the mountain/peninsula is named after this figure. the etymology of Athos is unknown. ***some languages call mount athos "holy mountain" instead, rather than referring to it by its Greek name.

@gpatoy5976 9 месяцев назад

@@HenryLeslieGraham here in Greece we call this place Αγίο Όρος = Holy Moyntain , mount Athos is the name of the mountain.

@mappingshaman5280 10 месяцев назад

Until 2000 they also banned anyone from catalonia because a mercenary company of catalans raided them in the 14th century.

@eustab.anas-mann9510 10 месяцев назад

The ban on men from Catalan origin lasted until 2005 when the Catalan government paid 250000 euros in reparations to the monastic community.

@J.o.s.h.u.a. 10 месяцев назад

@@eustab.anas-mann9510Why would Catalonia waste so much money like that? Is there a consistent Catalan community of Orthodox believers I wasn't aware of?

@auto952 10 месяцев назад

@J.o.s.h.u.a. Because the Catalan Company devastated Mount Athos in the 14th century, and looted the monasteries.

@jackwalters5506 10 месяцев назад

@@J.o.s.h.u.a.to the government of a wealthy region 250,000 Euros isn't even pocket change

@manana1444 10 месяцев назад

Understandable.

@papapeethehunks 9 месяцев назад

Mount Athos is not your typical Disney. Respect the tradition. Ban tourists.

@theo9952 Месяц назад

There are entrance fees* involved and the monasteries need the money, so tourists or pilgrims will not be banned, be sure about it. They also sell certain items to the tourists btw. *25 euro fee for orthodox visitors and 30 euro for the rest for a 4-day visit and accomodation in a monastry. This is all pre-arranged and paid in Thessaloniki where the visas are issued.

@stauros7513 29 дней назад

@@theo9952 Its not tourist the way you describe it. If you declare that you are a tourist who brings money but after no spiritual aspirations you won't be accepted and denied entry. The visitors are not tourists in the sense that you visit to have fun and spend your time.

@theo9952 29 дней назад

@@stauros7513 To begin with, no one has to "declare" anything. As long as one is not strongly and evidently suspected for intentions to cause trouble during his stay in Athos, he will pay the fee and get his visa. And remember that it is the Greek authorities who are in charge and are responsible for those visas. Not the monks.

@stauros7513 28 дней назад

@@theo9952 Religious Visitors may enter - no tourists, probably you don't understand the context asociated with the tourist. of course someone can lie and get his way into easy, but if the evidence is clear that someone is going on tourist vacations on mt. athos i assure you they will be denied entry

@101logic 26 дней назад

@@theo9952 I assure you that the monasteries do not rely on money from “tourists” plus it’s not a touristic trip, that require them to book for a couple of days to stay in one of the monasteries, because their coffers are full and they are very self-reliant.

@DevonExplorer 9 месяцев назад

As a woman I have absolutely no problem about their stance of not allowing women into their home. It could destroy their way of life and freedom to worship in their own way and who would want to take that sacredness and magic away? There's too much emphasis on access for everyone and making everything the same, imo, and we all need to know that there are amazing places that are different and kept sacred, even if it means that we can't go to visit. :)

@sebozz2046 9 месяцев назад

Meanwhile there are lots of places forbidden to men and no one have an issue with that. I think it should be both way either everything is allowed to both genders or both have the right to have places just for them.

@DevonExplorer 9 месяцев назад

@@sebozz2046I I agree with the latter but not the former. Everyone has, and should have, the right to be in a same sex situation for anything, whether it's a man's/woman's own club or a religious order. To deny that would be draconian. I like men and enjoy their company but there are some instances when it's more appropriate to be in a female only situation and vice versa. As I said, we shouldn't feel we have the right to be everywhere, lol.

@cabbage2794 9 месяцев назад

I hope that they would at least let scientists/researchers/historians to enter, but under very strict rules.

@jamesjonnes 9 месяцев назад

@@cabbage2794 What if a man wants to enter women's sports or bathrooms just for research purposes?

@rabia-2079 9 месяцев назад

@@cabbage2794there are male scientists and researchers for that :)

@Sheepythemanz2021 5 месяцев назад

Protect the holy mountain!! ☦🇬🇷

@Giannis_Sarafis 10 месяцев назад

Actually, there were some occasions in which women entered Mount Athos. Some adventurous princesses with a caprice to visit this place, entered Athos. Stories say that they either get killed mysteriously afterwards or became nuns. In addition, during the Greek Rebellion of Halkidiki against the Ottomans in 1821, and after the burning of all peninsula from the Turks, many children and women entered Mount Athos. The monasteries hid them for up to ten years in order not to be killed or be sold as slaves in North Africa. Two of my ancestors found refuge there. Also during the Greek Civil War (1946-1949), a few female fighters of the so called Democratic Army came to the Monasteries.

@Taleton 9 месяцев назад

I wonder what the Communist fighters wanted there? 80 km to the North where there "daddy" Tito of Yugoslavia... I should research it ... Although I am tired of Greeks killing Greeks

@glorialange6446 9 месяцев назад

Interesting.

@user-zz3tk5ym5q 9 месяцев назад

Thank you so much for these informations!Ευχαριστώ!

@gnas1897 5 месяцев назад

If I'm not mistaken women also found refuge there during the Macedonian revolution of 1854.

@nemanjastikic1367 4 месяца назад

Serbian Empress Jelena visited Mount Atos during the plague that hit region at the time, however during her stay there she was always carried so that her foot never touched the ground.

@afr11235 10 месяцев назад

Private clubs are generally free to make their own rules and ban whoever they wish. My personal view of the Greek Orthodox hierarchy notwithstanding, a private monastery or nunnery should be free to ban women or men or cows or whatever suits their fancy.

@charvaka9526 10 месяцев назад

As long as they aren't receiving national funding in a secularist republic. It isn't quite right that Bush & Bush visit at taxpayer's expense.

@shingosshojiopoulos6608 10 месяцев назад

@@charvaka9526greece isn't secular though

@charvaka9526 10 месяцев назад

I didn't think so. Still, it is unfair, and, theocracies need restraints.@@shingosshojiopoulos6608

@ATHLDN 10 месяцев назад

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@so_monika6743 10 месяцев назад

Priests in the powerful Greek Orthodox Church are treated as civil servants in Greece and their salaries - estimated at more than 200 million euros annually - have therefore been paid directly from the state budget. Take into account that the Greek Orthodox Church is extraordinarily wealthy.@@charvaka9526

@fimbulsummer 10 месяцев назад

Leave them be. A world with no differences is a boring world. Not to mention respecting cultural heritage. It’s not like it’s an entire country or state, just one small peninsula with a historical tradition that isn’t seeking to subjugate women outside their private land. This is their home, not a tourist attraction open to the general public and we should absolutely respect their right to choose who may enter.

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

Curious... how do they procreate if there are no women>?

@joelthorstensson2772 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01People become monks of their own volition.

@Mondy667 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01No fucking way you are asking that

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

@@Mondy667 you think so?

@BigBadBossu 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01 You realize monks are not born into their work right? Its Christian, just like priests faith is voluntary. It has lasted because of its super high cultural significance drawing more followers in.

@wendyleonenko8962 7 месяцев назад

As a woman, I support the monks right to keep Mount Athos as male only. As an Orthodox Christian, I appreciate that there are places like Mount Athos where prayer is kept pure.

@Pisti846 9 месяцев назад

Too many traditions have been destroyed, leave these men alone.

@Ravenelvenlady 10 месяцев назад

"To impose a modern thought to an ancient entity would destroy the ancient entity." Absolutely.

@OrthoKarter 10 месяцев назад

Mount athos should just be left alone. Its their religion, westoids have no right to come in and whine about it being “sexist” without knowing ANYTHING about greece and its beliefs, nor geography and religion in general

@OrthoKarter 10 месяцев назад

@@gendunchoepel3480 it should be preserved, its their religion and their culture. modernity has no right to impose someone elses religion.

@SerbAtheist 10 месяцев назад

@@gendunchoepel3480 Okay, harmful cultural practices should be eliminated. Who is being harmed on Mount Athos?

@SS-yj2le 9 месяцев назад

Well yes. It is a different thought of what it actually was, so it naturally changes it into what it isn’t. Then again, doesn’t have to be modern. Just has to be something different.

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

@@SS-yj2le Maybe it does and maybe not.

@aprilrich807 9 месяцев назад

I believe that Mt Athos should be respected as it has been. And I’m a woman.

@JudithSanchez-ht6jn 9 месяцев назад

Another woman protesting I am a woman and agree with monks . Always that is forbidden to woman is a protest and if the monks allow them to look for others places to protest. I respect the monks and agree because that is place for worship no a resort.

@mariossahamis3969 Месяц назад

Keep in mind that there are nunneries where men are being forbidden

@desiree2502 10 месяцев назад

I think it is very good for the nature and marinelife to be spared from tourists, there are many other nice places you can visit in Greece

@kieranadamson3224 9 месяцев назад

Exactly, this is an ancient holy site. The Orthodox Christian equivalent of Mecca. It deserves to be left to itself.

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

@@kieranadamson3224 Mecca is holy to all three main religions. It's a site of Abraham. Muslims would let Christians and Jews go there before men would allow women onto Athos, that is only a "tradition", as the Ecumenical Patriarchate itself has admitted. Not part of the religion. Many other traditions have disappeared, but not the ban against women, because.. EDIT to add the irony of holding up Mecca - a place of annual pilgrimage in.. Saudi Arabia, not exactly a bastion of liberalism, as the contrast to an EU peninsula of a couple thousand men succeeding in keeping the entire region to themselves. At least Mecca is only a city lol

@kieranadamson3224 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakol okay, so a religious site has a specific group of traditions. What's wrong with that?

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

@@kieranadamson3224 please listen to yourself. You can't justify banning a group of people (insert any other group) because it's been the the tradition, enacted when women had no rights, were property ,etc. It's only continuing because it is women, who are so universally loathed or powerless apparently that these zealots can continue it. And get away with not paying taxes. How powerful they must be ..

@jamesjonnes 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakol Will you allow people born as males to enter women's bathrooms?

@chevonne24 9 месяцев назад

I hope everyone leaves these monks and their way of life alone. We need to understand that we don't need to make all spaces accessible to everyone and that is not necessarily discrimination

@sa.377 10 месяцев назад

*In Northern Greece, there is a small island that belongs to Mt. Athos which is also exclusive to monks and monasteries. This island is called Kyra Panagia and is found about 50 km to the south of the Athos peninsula.

@klauspendl6950 9 месяцев назад

And that island and monastery admits also female visitors.

@marcouellette4671 10 месяцев назад

Leave the peninsula alone as is.

@HawkThunder907 9 месяцев назад

My uncle was a monck on Hilandar for 20 years, I remember when I slept there with my father when we visited the monastery, I was about 6 years old. Its truly a beautiful place. I never thought it would be mentioned somewhere again. Dont try to force these people to do what you want, it's obviously not wanted.

@archeewaters 10 месяцев назад

it's ok. we don't need to go to a place that does not accept female visitors. there are specific individuals i do not invite into my own home. why should it matter? all is well.

@dzxn3728 10 месяцев назад

Intolerance paradox. Tolerating Intolerance leads to tolerating patriarchal fascism. Obviously.

@hopeintruth5119 10 месяцев назад

@@dzxn3728exactly peopel genuinely don't understand that. I use this analogy. If we live in a society where one group is pacifist and another is violent. Would it be ok for the pacifist to defend against the violent people woth violence. The answer would be yes to protect the peace and the safety of others. SAme goes for this. Just because we are tolerant doesn't mean we will protect and allow intolerance to fester because it would destroy what we already fought for or trying to obtain.

@luvidx9919 10 месяцев назад

If you want to fight intolerance how about you talk about places like saudi arabia or Pakistan and etc which btw those are whole ass countries and then talk about a small peninsula where about 1000 monks live

@dzxn3728 10 месяцев назад

@@luvidx9919 Sophia the bot doesn't have to cover & they gave her citizenship. Elon musk owes them 13b for Twitter. Hate that. That is the bigger fish. But I don't participate in whataboutism. All misogyny must be intolerable.

@bitter_truth8646 10 месяцев назад

@@dzxn3728I really can't understand the behavior of some men or even feminists who comment here. If you don't like a place, then don't have to visit it. However, you come here to write bitter comments. Just skip the video people. They don't bother you don't bother them. They have their life, they have their faith, they deal with what they want to deal with, they devote themselves to what they believe in. Period! And finally, if you don't like these kinds of places, just visit other places, there are hundreds of thousands of other places on this planet. If you want to be respected respect others!

@mariusmuresan8248 9 месяцев назад

The question is, why would a woman want to go to Mount Athos? The ones who are Orthodox (right believers) surely do not want the rule to change, while the others have no business there, except to create irritation.

@PELLIOTIS 9 месяцев назад

and its not like Mount Athos is the only place with monasteries in the Ortodox world. The entire world is filled with them and anybody can visit. Just outside of my village there is a female monastery and has every kind of visitor every day. Its just that Mount Athos is something more than that and it should be preserved.

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

It's mostly the message it sends about women, in 202x. That they can still be banned, in the EU, with all its non-discrimination laws, and also receive EU money. Women are considered unclean and sinful by nature, a temptation. It's not in the religion. It's only a thousand year old tradition. Well slavery was a tradition too at one time..

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

The EU scammers never gave any money to that and even if they did nobody cares about their almost zero contribution. If wimmen don't like it they can move elsewhere or find another religion. Simple as that. But no, they prefer breaking balls right and left about something they don't even really care about.

@mariusmuresan8248 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakol It's mostly this obsession with destroying everything traditional or rooted in faith, cutting down religion, controlling it, and generally claiming that your feminist ideology knows better in every respect. It's ruining the West; now you're out for more blood, wanting to ruin the East as well.

@vasiliyt8600 7 месяцев назад

@@taniakol It's mostly to keep bitter militant middle-aged feminists like you, out of Agion Oros.

@maxgronros6728 10 месяцев назад

Lets not impose our values onto people who dont wish to, we dont need to be able to go everywhere, let them live like they want to

@OrthoKarter 10 месяцев назад

Exactly. The people in the comments who cope over this mountain and even go as far as to say it should be destroyed are definitely greasy redditors. Mt athos is based

@LondonPower 10 месяцев назад

You cant impose nothing to mountain Athos is the soul of Greece and Romania the byzantine state

@constantinopleisGreek 9 месяцев назад

Ζήτω η Ελλάς Ζήτω η Ρωμανία Ζήτω η Ορθοδοξία

@PurpleTurtle7288 9 месяцев назад

Access to some random mountain is not a big deal, and because it is private, owners have the right to decide who to invite onto their land anyway. But this argument of "we should not impose our values onto other people" is not a good argument to justify anything. People have used it to justify honor killings and prevent girls them from leaving a house without an escort or getting an education. When people's "values" infringe upon human rights, it is not right, and women and men have inalienable equal rights. It's not surprising that some people get triggered when some suggest that it is good that the mountain is off-limits to girls and this is the only reason offered

@OrthoKarter 9 месяцев назад

@@PurpleTurtle7288 this isn’t imposing rights tho? they dont allow women because its only for The Most Holy Woman, Theotokos. It isnt sexist at all. cope

@olbiomoiros 9 месяцев назад

Hagion Oros translates to holy mountain. Athos is the name the mountain has had since antiquity, named after the mythological giant Athos who accidentally created the peninsula by throwing a rock.

@olbiomoiros 9 месяцев назад

The reason why no female, human or not can be on the peninsula, is because the only woman in mount Athos is the Virgin Mary.

@olbiomoiros 9 месяцев назад

Fyi, there are monasteries where men aren’t allowed either. that’s how it works. There’s male only and female only monasteries.

@PELLIOTIS 9 месяцев назад

@@olbiomoiros They dont even allow female saints to adorn the monasteries, with the exception of Mary the Egyptian (for very specific reasons)

@carlose4314 9 месяцев назад

There was an Empress (Helena I think) who was allowed on the mountain, however, she was carried on a litter or hand carriage so that she doesn't touch the ground.

@mariossahamis3969 Месяц назад

No it was a russian princess.. Holly Virgin Mary told her to stop near the beach never allowing her to enter

@xenialafleur 10 месяцев назад

If you want to start imposing modern Western views on places, there are so many places you could start with where women actually live.

@robandrews4815 10 месяцев назад

Right! I saw a Frontline documentary on Iran. A place where women are literally being killed by the police,for fighting for freedom.

@icedriver2207 10 месяцев назад

I agree can you imagine if people started saying trans-women should be allowed to become Nuns.

@LudwigVaanArthans 10 месяцев назад

@@icedriver2207or women to teach in madrassas in the Muslim world

@PurpleTurtle7288 9 месяцев назад

Greece is part of the Western World -_- What^

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

@@PurpleTurtle7288 It is? Since when? lol

@carloslx 10 месяцев назад

Only in this stupid day and age would anyone make their mission in life to destroy everything which is sacred, traditional and respected. It's not about a woman feeling oppressed. She just wants to be the first to take selfies there for her insta channel. It's that sad.

@mathiask.5474 10 месяцев назад

Exactly ! And people don't understand why women are banned, the also don't even wanna inform themselves. Sacred things must be preserved and my dear, you are totally right there

@tbnrcreator.official 2 месяца назад

@@mathiask.5474 As tradition goes, the mother of God (the blessed Theotokos) had came across the island and made it her own. As honor and reverence to her, she was the only lady to be on the island. That is why women are banned on the island. It's not sexist, its not meant to put women down, it is simply out of respect for the mother of God.

@Not-Ap 9 месяцев назад

Why does this matter? It's a religious community segregated for religious reasons. No different then say a holy island where only nuns are allowed or something. Places like this do exist and I really don't see why it's breaking news.

@litsakoutoula3071 10 месяцев назад

As a greek woman I never cared about that. I would never want to visit a place I'm not wanted😊

@chef7658 10 месяцев назад

I bet gay sex happens on that place.

@shingosshojiopoulos6608 10 месяцев назад

@@chef7658no

@bryanalexander2508 10 месяцев назад

@@chef7658Just because your dad picked up that habit a while back doesn’t mean that every man with a beard likes to suck on a sausage.

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

If only those other b1tc@es felt that way...

@irenesupica5571 9 месяцев назад

I am thankful for the many monasteries I can visit. St. John's Monastery in Goldendale, Washington (USA) is a wonderful place, and the sisters are very welcoming.

@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos 10 месяцев назад

It surprises me that a woman from the other side of the world finds oppression in the fact she can't visit a place she previously didn't even know existed. I bet if there wasn't a law forbidding women, most of these people messing with mount Athos today wouldn't even bother mention it. Friends of Mount Athos respect Mount Athos, if you have no respect you're not a friend 👎

@user-gf2wm9rd3s 10 месяцев назад

Thats because this is still a mysoginistoc attitude. Im Orthodox Christian and I cant stand these POS.

@schalitz1 10 месяцев назад

Typical woman, what do you expect. Always looking for a way to be the victim. Mt.Athos is probably the most peaceful place on Earth.

@jcbear 10 месяцев назад

Guaranteed if the situation was reversed and this autonimous region had an Abbess and sisters and novices there would be HE LL a screaming and demands to keep any males out from entering their space.

@bryanalexander2508 10 месяцев назад

@@user-gf2wm9rd3sThe fact that you call yourself orthodox, yet you go against ecumenical decree means you’re about as orthodox as I am a Bob Marley

@000Dragon50000 10 месяцев назад

It already has a limitation of only 10 tourists/researchers/etc and howevermany orthodox pilgrims though, and the former is too small to have a meaningful impact and the latter would respect the supposed importance of the monks' duties, soo... what the fuck does the gender of those visitors matter? And what about visitors who later figure out they're trans or something? It's just a flawed way of interacting with the world.

@stephaniegonsalves2810 9 месяцев назад

This video is fascinating. I never heard of such a place. Absolutely stunning ❤

@ChrisPbiker 10 месяцев назад

According to Mz Bimbo, a geographic feature is suffering from a "serious mental condition"? Some people should be disallowed access to recording devices!

@dkaloger5720 10 месяцев назад

It is really like a big monastery, the experience is probably like visiting any other well managed monastery .Having visited a monastery myself its remarkably easy and a worthwhile (even if you are not religious, like me) ,you can just find one on google maps and go hang out there for a few hours . The monks are super friendly and welcoming, as long as you are respectful .

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

Curious... do you know how they maintain their number if women are not allowed ?

@PELLIOTIS 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01 seeing the comment elsewhere it is ether heavy bad trolling or just pure ignorance. The monasteries accept any man that wants to be a monk (even though it is not that simple to join and there is an entire process, especially in Mount Athos). From age to age monasteries may suffer from low population and endagerment of closing but they usually recover and may even surprass older population numbers. Men just join in, you leave your past life and join a new one in the monastery, no matter the backround. Usually the monastery has requirment of 18 years of age to keep the schemes but there are cases of young kids joining in on their own volition. Some saints of the last century were such kids that answered the call in young age and others that joined older always admitted that wanted to join since they were small kids.

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

@@PELLIOTIS Yes, I posted this similar question in many(?) other comments. But it is neither trolling nor "ignorance" , o most holy and wise One [sarcasm]. It is to increase my chances of actually getting a reply because I genuinely did not know. Thank you for your reply O Great and Divinely inspired Pelliotis. It is an honor to have been spoken to by such a man who knows everything.

@PELLIOTIS 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01 i am sorry if i gave such impression but seeing the same question in every comment is annoying. I never claimed i know better and there is no reason for said sarcasm. If you really wanted to know i apologize

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

@@PELLIOTIS You should have also noticed I thank every one who gave answers so there was no need to be upset because that shows I was not trolling. Good day.

@yamataichul 10 месяцев назад

As a romanian woman and kind of familiar with orthodox christianity, let me tell you, Mount Athos isn't hiding anything incredibly special, there are special events and prayers there but most male visitors seem to not care for it. The place looks like any monastaries, some unique historical features but that's mostly it. Every single holy place has it's rules, despite the common faith.

@PASOKGLOBAL 10 месяцев назад

wdym its nothing special... As a Greek i can confirm to you that going there is like traveling back to byzantine times, the architecture, landscape, way of life and overall atmosphere is profound and absolutely worth it.

@asoton957 10 месяцев назад

It's literally traveling back in time 500 years though. No exaggeration. It's like going to Cuba is a time warp back to 1955. Every car building etc. is from that era (for better or worse, we all know it's down to their poverty, but still) That comment can only be made by someone who has zero value for history

@yamataichul 10 месяцев назад

@@asoton957 my grandparents come from a village still using manual labor tools for land and animals to this day. The tractor is used on a minimum if not at all. There are also still remote monastaries where they did not bother with modernity and pretty much limit themselves to owning a van or the priest owning a car. Poverty is still visible from a low to no income family, monastaries may not be poor but sure are disciplinary to some extend. You have no idea what you're talking about and how I value things.

@KingMinosxxvi 10 месяцев назад

accept that most monastaries aren't independant states are they..also not having been there how would you know

@Gyneco-Phobia 10 месяцев назад

As a Romanian *Woman* - Alright, thank you for your input. But it's kind of oxymoron, isn't it?

@kimchiwasabee 10 месяцев назад

"This mountain is insane." Mmmh. Sure,pumpkin. Sure.

@BenStimpsonAuthor 10 месяцев назад

I'm sorry, why is an American so concerned that this tiny peninsula in Greece doesn't allow women visitors? In what way does this impact her life? I find it more than imperialistic to assume that the whole world needs to conform to American cultural standards... and I'd even go as far as to say this whole video was just plain disrespectful. even demanding a community to explain themselves is just ridiculous

@barkydogable 9 месяцев назад

The attitude the person expresses isn't limited to America. Imperialist ideas come from many nations.

@huangec 9 месяцев назад

Because she's American.

@Not-Ap 9 месяцев назад

@@barkydogableWell regardless it's really no one else's business but the monks. It's millenia old religious community that seculed for spiritual reasons.

@bazilbednar2081 9 месяцев назад

I agree with what you are saying except for the video being disrespectful. It's an informative documentary.

@BenStimpsonAuthor 9 месяцев назад

the disrespect comes with the host and the journalist he's speaking to offering opinions on the appropriateness of this places' existence. the journalist offering personal opinion on the rules of this place she's obviously never been to is where the disrespect lies. @@bazilbednar2081

@PindusWrath 9 месяцев назад

Westerners (liberals to be specific) should keep out from our internal affairs and respect our faith. Not everything is for sale

@JustMeowMeow 9 месяцев назад

Wow, this is so interesting.. i never knew! Thank you for this informative video it's so beautifully made

@theconqueringram5295 10 месяцев назад

Mount Athos is so interesting and unique. Truly a time capsule that preserves a long lost world, I would be honored if I had the chance to visit it one day. I just regret that the area bans women, even Vatican City State has a few female residents (mostly wives and daughters of Swiss Guards). Still, this place is very blessed to be preserved the way it was. Safe from the destruction of human industry, it's beautiful and it's heritage is significant.

@benquintero8554 10 месяцев назад

mt athos is a place of monasticism unlike the Vatican

@Ptolemy336VV 9 месяцев назад

Athos is the only monastic state in the world

@niarlatotepbasset 9 месяцев назад

You compared that Satanic slumber with Mount Athos 😒.

@robertlynch1404 9 месяцев назад

If we could just have women-free gyms, that would be heaven.

@ifluvinguiswrong 8 месяцев назад

@robertlynch1404 yes, easier access for you to look at other men.

@robertlynch1404 8 месяцев назад

Not really, I keep my eyes to myself in the gym, but I don't like all the women looking for d or at least dressed as if they are looking for d.@@ifluvinguiswrong

@benkai343434 6 месяцев назад

@@ifluvinguiswrong we understand that you're gay because of your obsession with talking about gay people, but there's no need to project your own degeneracy onto people who aren't you.

@aarondanan9486 4 месяца назад

+1 I stand for that

@Toothdragongoatr 3 месяца назад

I stand for that and avoid women.

@ajrobbins368 10 месяцев назад

I prefer a world were a tiny peninsula full of ancient monasteries is unique. I would feel the same if men were banned instead. Unique (not cruel) places teach us things about ourselves and about history.

@6B8RX 9 месяцев назад

No women? That's even better than the Garden of Eden!

@vicentetomas3649 22 дня назад

This makes you sound gay.

@achurst1070 9 месяцев назад

On rare and very clear days Mount Athos appears floating over the sea as I have coffee on my terrace in front of my house on one of the islands of the Sporades. It is stunning and magical in ghostly blues, pale purples or reflecting yellow orange light. I hope to visit someday.

@Silkypaste 9 месяцев назад

You can ‘hope to visit someday’, but I cannot, just because of my sex. That’s unfair.

@achurst1070 9 месяцев назад

@@Silkypaste Maybe so, but many people (myself included) cannot go to Mecca just because of their religion or lack of religion and there are some places that restrict men. I suppose the world is unfair. If it was up to me, I'd let women travel to Athos at the same small rates as others who are not monks but it isn't. It's the choice of the people of the peninsula who all happen to be male monks.

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

@@Silkypaste The world is unfair. Get over it.

@zarekbeck3358 3 месяца назад

@@Silkypaste there are literally millions of other places you can go to that are far more beautiful, why do you care so much about a little piece of land?

@shanicestella2226 10 месяцев назад

Just like Buddhist Monastery , So it isn't Surprising

@Ptolemy336VV 9 месяцев назад

Yes, but Athos is the only Monastic state in the world

@LibrarianSankore 3 месяца назад

@@Ptolemy336VV Eh, but it isn't the only large "no women zone" in the world. Japan has a Mountain and an Island separate with that.

@Ptolemy336VV 3 месяца назад

@@LibrarianSankore this is the only monastic state in the world. It has nothing to do with that its an all male society or all female society. You literally need permission, and to go through a border in a 1 way in and out into Athos. Which it s even militarily guarded. Its the only place in the world that has Byzantine times.

@mariossahamis3969 Месяц назад

@@Ptolemy336VV You forgot the Tibet :P

@Ptolemy336VV Месяц назад

@@mariossahamis3969 no. Tibet is not a monastic state. And also not independent. Athos is. And hence Athos is the only monastic state in the world. You literally need permission to get there. And there is only 1 way in. Through a pass, protected by military, by boat

@hopefulbloom 10 месяцев назад

This is such a cool topic to cover, I am so interested in what y'all are going to do in the future.

@geoffkkk2009 9 месяцев назад

Everyone needs a safe space and so do these men seeking spiritual enlightenment free from the distractions of the opposite sex. If it upsets you to think that this is wrong, then just don't think about it.

@Silkypaste 9 месяцев назад

I question the vow of chastity that the monks on Mt Athos have taken. If there is no female around, how can you test your vow and consciously battle with so-called ‘temptation’? Other monasteries have female visitors. They test their vow of chastity regularly whereas the cowards on Mt Athos don’t have to. Seems to be quite an empty vow of chastity IMHO. Doesn’t seem fair compared to other religious orders where people who have taken a vow of chastity are tested through contact with the opposite sex.

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

@@Silkypaste That's their problem. Everyone has their own vows to attend to.

@Silkypaste 9 месяцев назад

@@tatarofromfyromistan5010 That’s just it, the chastity vow isn’t a problem and it should be. A religious vow is supposed to be hard to keep because it tests your faith.

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

@@Silkypaste No vow is the same as others though and nobody forces anyone to live the life of St. Anthony.

@kaxerrr 7 месяцев назад

@@Silkypaste It's just one of the vows, and really just a preventative rule

@bitter_truth8646 10 месяцев назад

I really can't understand the behavior of some men or even feminists who comment here. If you don't like a place, then don't have to visit it. However, you come here to write bitter comments. Just skip the video people. They don't bother you don't bother them. They have their life, they have their faith, they deal with what they want to deal with, they devote themselves to what they believe in. Period! And finally, if you don't like these kinds of places, just visit other places, there are hundreds of thousands of other places on this planet. If you want to be respected respect others!

@giganigga3025 7 месяцев назад

Everyone who is talking about this being a "gay paradise" whether seriously or for comedic purposes should be ashamed of themselves

@vernonsheldon-witter1225 9 месяцев назад

Mount Athos is a community of Orthodox Monasteries. Theologically, there can be no contact between Monks and Nuns in daily living.

@user-or8zy9iy5t 10 месяцев назад

God is Great ☝🏻

@someinteresting 10 месяцев назад

Mount Athos doesn't mean Holly Mountain, Hagion Oros does.

@pineapplephill7934 10 месяцев назад

In greek it hagion oros

@someinteresting 10 месяцев назад

@@pineapplephill7934 That's exactly what I said.

@g3org3yo7 9 месяцев назад

the "h" is silent. Agion Oros is how you read it, just like Hagia Sofia , you read it as Agia Sofia. Thats a little tip for the people reading it wrong out there.

@someinteresting 9 месяцев назад

@@g3org3yo7 Yes, in Modern Greek the spiritus asper has disappeared. Anyway, my comment was about that the speaker said that Mount Athos means Holly Mountain.

@apostolisf3201 7 месяцев назад

Great work!

@hassanhassan-os5oq 10 месяцев назад

Great video👍

@1redeye_ 10 месяцев назад

You didnt even finish the video

@hassanhassan-os5oq 10 месяцев назад

@@1redeye_i skipped things that I already new like the beginning and parts of its history

@Danedesta 9 месяцев назад

As an Orthodox Christian, I'll say that this place is one of the holiest places in Orthodox Christianity. It needs to be spared from hordes of tourists, so leave them be. There is nothing for tourists to see there

@Gibbstronic 9 месяцев назад

Just leave the monks alone.

@28KasterArt 9 месяцев назад

Last vestiges of things and ideas thought to be long gone are always interesting to me. Mount Athos as the last tiny vestige of Byzantine Empire is a notable example.

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

Agree, very interesting. Would love to go there. The peninsula's the same size as Philadelphia, Grenada or Malta (336 square km/130 sq miles ) so hardly tiny.

@28KasterArt 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakol The Byzantine Empire at it's greatest extent was estimated to have been 1.5 million sq miles/ 3,400,000 square km (5 Million square km if you include vassal states)* , which is over 10,000 times the area of Mount Athos State today.

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

@@28KasterArt You're comparing a peninsula to an empire. Byzantium was a city of six square kilometers or 2.3 square miles and I'm sure managed to hold quite a bit. Mt Athos can - and does, with 20 monasteries and more - have plenty of artifacts and treasures to enthrall visitors (I mean pilgrims).

@28KasterArt 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakol Mount Athos is a time capsule of *Byzantine* traditions and religion.

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

@@28KasterArt Byzantine. Byzantium was the city. Which named the Byzantine Empire but whatever, okay, am sure it is a nice place.

@ErisstheGoddessofmanhwas Месяц назад

As Orthodox and woman i never visit monasteries, doesn't matter which monaster women or men .I believe monasteries are monks homes and i respects peoples home and only visit if someone alow me ro visit , or ask me to visit .As for the Europe they have no rights to interfere. If they ever decide to remove the ban Greek people will interfere too .We don't like our church to be disrespected like Europe did to Vatican. Good for them if they like women in Vatican or gay , leave the holy mount of Athos out of this .

@DavidKerley 9 месяцев назад

People who want to allow women think a law change would do no harm. It's one huge monastery. Nuns don't allow men; monasteries don't allow women. Let the law stand or let idle curiosity destroy a huge part of history.

@el-jp3xp 9 месяцев назад

The last piece of Byzantium,protect it.

@adrastoso9727 9 месяцев назад

Very interesting to see places like this being able to survive in the 21st century that clashes with modern society values. This is a monetary just like those in the mountains of China and India, a mystery that few are allowed to travel to.

@andreaslindenau1190 9 месяцев назад

Even female animals like sheep ,cows and ever other female animals are strictly forbidden. But my favourite monastere is "Meteora" ,one or two are in use and they were shown in an older "James-Bond-Film".

@LondonPower 10 месяцев назад

Also, in the place of the great monasteries, there were ancient Greek cities which at some point were evacuated by imperial decree in the 9th century. This was done by Nikephoros Phokas after the reconquest of Crete in 961 from the Saracen Arabs The roads between these ancient cities still exist today as paths that pilgrims walked to get from one monastery to another. The trip to Mount Athos is like returning to 10th century Byzantium

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

Curious... how are the monks able to maintain their population if there are no women>?

@kostam.1113 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01There are always monks arriving Back when i visited in 2009 i stayed for 2 days at a house of a German Orthodox monk

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

@@kostam.1113 Thank you! I was really curious about it so I asked. I presume you meant monks from outside the region? Regards,

@kostam.1113 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01 Monks in Athos are primarily from Greece I would say something like 50% although i could be wrong As for the rest 50% it's real "rainbow" of nationalities primarily from European Orthodox countries and some from even further like German, American, Bristish... Monks

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

@@kostam.1113 Interesting. I wonder how they are screened to ensure they really commit to their vows and not go out when the "itch" becomes too much to bear. Again, thank you.

@rizaki6362 9 месяцев назад

it is not just women. The last years in order to go there and even stay a few days you have to have a invitation from someone there in order to visit. i know that cause my dad went there for a week invited by his cousin. People there can contact with family member ONLY by letter and is rumored that this letter is opened before is received by peope there.The can contact by women his cousin is speaking to his sister via letter. But i believe they do not allowed to send many cause for exaple my dad was senting one and received back reply letter for him after a month or more.

@davesprivatelounge 9 месяцев назад

Excellent video as always. You might find interest in ancient rock cut temples that have survived colonization in India.

@serious_nigga 10 месяцев назад

Ok, let me get this, in a nunnery men aren't allowed then in a monastery it's a debate to remove a ban because it's bigger than most monasteries?

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

No problem if it was just the monasteries. They're banned from the entire peninsula or face jail. And they're paying for it. It's not private land.

@kristaps5296 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakolbased

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakol it is private land.

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

@@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo it's a semi autonomous region that accepts European Union taxpayer money. How is that? You see the hypocrisy of accepting my money without my consent and i can't even set foot on the shoreline

@Herr_Flick_of_ze_Gestapo 9 месяцев назад

@@taniakol cry harder and deal with it. It is what it is. You are not welcome.

@Theodisc 9 месяцев назад

In Greek η Μαριάμ - Maria is commonly titled η Θεοτόκος - i Theotókos meaning the God-bearer. Even the grammatical gender of this name is unusual being feminine. In Greek nearly all names/nouns that end -ος are grammatically masculines, o Σταύρος - Stávros, o Γιώργος - Giórgos/ο θανότος - the death, ο πόνος - the pain, o λόγος - the word or reason (tho' some -os ending nouns are so very old they are actually neuters - το). What is rare in Greek is for -os ending names to be feminines - η, and one of these is this title i Mariám bears η Θεοτόκος. So even the guardian saint of Áthos has a "skewed" linguistical genre applied to it.

@95Gabe 9 месяцев назад

Officially the most peaceful place on earth that isn't covered by ice and snow.

@Ptolemy336VV 9 месяцев назад

It is though in winter. The mountains rises 2034 meters straight out of the sea, which makes it a Ultra peak mountain and also why it has such spectacular mountain scenery meeting spectacular sea scenery. But in winter the mountain is often snow covered

@gnas1897 9 месяцев назад

You're underestimating how cold Northern Greece and especially the mountains are during winter 😂

@FabianEDuran 9 месяцев назад

Women must Stay out !

@TheSpecialJ11 10 месяцев назад

Thank god. Somewhere I can go without Oprah Winfrey on a waiting room TV.

@sebozz2046 9 месяцев назад

Meanwhile no one is shoked that in times of war like Ukraine right now men are not allowed to leave the country, even forced into the frontline. What about "liberty of movement" there?

@henryscarhead6119 9 месяцев назад

People now a days "wants", "you should do what ever we want". imagine if it was home?

@jay-by1se 9 месяцев назад

Imagine how peaceful it is there.

@therealrodney8561 9 месяцев назад

Some people are more concerned about the places they can’t go than maximizing themselves in the places they can!

@dannym.7563 9 месяцев назад

Mount Athos is private property. The owners have the right to invite anyone they choose there. And the owners of Mount Athos have the right to deny anyone.

@DrTheRich 7 месяцев назад

It's weird this obsession some people have with needing to be at places they can't. Like there is a women suing the mountain for human and women's rights. Why does she want to be there so badly? It just seems to be out of spite, or jealousy or something. No women is oppressed there, because there are no women there to oppress. So who's human rights are violated.

@normanzimmerman5029 9 месяцев назад

Extraordinary

@Pan472 Месяц назад

As a Greek, it's actually good they're adhering so much to the traditions. Plus that they're actually really cultured and very learned. The libraries in the monasteries might as well have artefacts that we don't even know about, as everything is so secluded.

@lilystonne4108 9 месяцев назад

Her argument that hypothetically it could be career restricting should a woman researcher wish to study a species of wildlife, is plausible. However, compare Mt Athos to other places in the world that are not accessible to everybody. For example, the missionary John Allan Chau was killed by Sentinelese, a uncontacted indigenous tribe on an island in the Indian Ocean when he tried to convert them to Christianity. He kept on landing on the island until they finally got rid of him.

@LilBallOfScorpioInTheCorner 16 дней назад

Those species could be found all over not just there.

@zainmudassir2964 10 месяцев назад

Good rule to be honest. Respect

@Tacquito 10 месяцев назад

Yeah keep them away from all the gay sex they are having lol 😂

@OrthoKarter 10 месяцев назад

@@Tacquitook turkgai

@VinnyUnion 10 месяцев назад

Agreed. Devil's minions should stay out.

@thebasedspectre3048 9 месяцев назад

@@Tacquito philistine

@lowlife_nolife6047 9 месяцев назад

There was a similar case in India with the Sabrimala Temple. But, with the Supreme court doing away with the ban, well, things got a little out of hand. Had India pulled a similar move, the world would have hounded us.

@ioannistheringer Месяц назад

Where can we find all those maps they sent him?

@markherron1407 10 месяцев назад

Mount Athos is a male version of Themyscira Wonder Woman's Island 🏝️ Blessings and Hugs 💖💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕💕

@mariossahamis3969 Месяц назад

Well to all who they don't know the complete history of the monasteries.. Most of them in the sea side were built as castles because of the pirate raids that took place and they had the permission from the Patriarch to defend their selves with weapons [ byzantine era]

@juliamcconoughey2672 10 месяцев назад

OK I get not letting women on the island but what is up with no female animals?? Hmmmmm....

@williamwebb7917 10 месяцев назад

Yea, it’s overboard.

@st.kazuha7755 5 месяцев назад

Not all kind of animal just livestock kind female animal or generaly eatable animal, the monks dont eat meat

@Incidental104 9 месяцев назад

If they consider the entire area their private property, then it's their prerogative to decide who can enter and who cannot. Not every situation revolves around equality concerns. It's a relatively small rocky area that isn't a major attraction for most people. Greece is a stunning country, and right near that mountain, there are two other similar mountains that extend into the sea. If you're genuinely interested in seeing something similar, you could visit those places. Most importantly no women or girls live there so women's rights aren't an issue on that island. However, it feels like many individuals are drawn to this location purely to spark controversy and advocate for rights that aren't directly related to this small piece of land. The monks who reside there likely don't prioritize accommodating women biologists because that specific location might not be suitable for biology studies. If that's your focus, there's another mountain just 20 kilometers away that could better serve that purpose. It's important to recognize that not every battle needs to be fought by everyone. Sometimes, it's better to let these individuals live peacefully on their mountain without unnecessary conflict.

@johncharleson8733 9 месяцев назад

The 'woke' crowd won't be happy until they piss up everything in creation---devils.

@nunyabiznes33 10 месяцев назад

It's the same reason they used to not allow women into ships - it'll cause drama among the men 🤣. And in the case of these monks, they'd like to be as far away from any temptations as possible. I'd say a parallel would be convents where nuns also limit the entry of males. Albeit it's probably not as restrictive as Mt Athos coz after all, they need men do some of tasks like maintaining and repairing structures, etc.

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

Curious... how are the monks able to maintain their population if there are no women?>

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

There are nunneries where men are forbidden. They don't even invite workers, they do all the tough jobs themselves!

@mariossahamis3969 Месяц назад

If someone wishes to become a monk he will be tested thoroughly as a novice for 3 to 5 years and after that if he warmly wishes to become member of the brotherhood he will be accepted... Fortunately there are many candidates that replenish the population with Americans and one from japan recently... But the monks make clear to all who wish to become monks... Finish any cosmic obligations that they have and then become monks...

@hilestoby2628 10 месяцев назад

This was an interesting video into Early Medieval History still living in the present. The showing of the Orthodox traditions and Byzantium art and icons just feels of a living reverence to the identity of Mount Athos.

@Silvina46 3 месяца назад

We do have to RESPECT traditions!

@cassius5692 9 месяцев назад

As fascinating as the human history is there, I can't help but wonder about the natural history and biodiversity such an untouched & isolated location would have. The fact that domestic cats have found their way there is both unsurprising and unfortunate. But still, I really hope there are as many biologists studying this place as there are historians.

@stefand1254others 9 месяцев назад

I'm glad everyone in the comments has accepted respecting mt athos privacy, its a holy site not a research or tourist attraction.

@georgemelder6082 10 месяцев назад

One lady is enough that is Holy mary the mother of our lord. She represent all women.

@mocabe01 9 месяцев назад

sure... and how will they maintain their population if they live with no women?

@Gibbstronic 9 месяцев назад

@@mocabe01it's over 1000 years old and thriving. I think they'll be okay.

@taniakol 9 месяцев назад

Well I'm a woman and dedicating the whole peninsula to her is definitely not enough lol.

@user-pj7sq7ce1f 2 месяца назад

@@mocabe01wake up they are monks !!!

@mariossahamis3969 Месяц назад

If some wants to see how the Holly Virgin Mary looks like Kindly visit in mount athos the russian monastery of saint pantelimon where a miracle had taken place in 1903 as far as remembered [ kindly correct me if for the year] Where she gave her blessing to the monks to photograph her 🥲 Here is the photo www.vimaorthodoxias.gr/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/1-38.jpg

@ShoutOfCoffee 9 месяцев назад

So...this is how heaven looks like 😁

@user-gk9mj5bo2e 8 месяцев назад

I've been there once for business purposes. The landscape, the environment, tge forests and the monuments are stunning. It's beeing preserved constantly and that's the right way to pass this UNESCO heritage to the next generations

@annawan2518 9 месяцев назад

I am glad they have that rule.🙏

@peter6098 Месяц назад

why as a man can't enter to an only female gym? - it is insane

@yourneighbour3309 Месяц назад

i love seeing this. im striving towards The One Truth.☦️💙📿

@spyrosk5659 9 месяцев назад

The very fact that it is debated if women should be allowed or not really shows the lack of understanding and respect now days!! This is not a city or a town it is an area with a few monastery's it is autonomous and has lived that way for a millennia. It is not a resort or a retreat it is a place of worship! I am not religious my self but I understand the fact that they have to right to live the same way they did for A MILLENNIA in this SMALL area ! People need to understand that being for forbidden of something doesn't mean it impedes your freedom, somethings are bigger than you and me get over it!

@ericvulgate 10 месяцев назад

The Vatican has an all male population too.

@ThePussukka 10 месяцев назад

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Women_in_Vatican_City almost, but it's not actually all male and women aren't banned

@sprocket5526 10 месяцев назад

Maby not banned outright, but they are not full "members" of the church either. Females are not allowed any meaningful influence, they are relegated to nunnery's and in some places teaching positions for young kids where the Catholic Church still run schools.

@kevanhubbard9673 9 месяцев назад

The ferry ⛴️ is the only legal way assuming that you have a permit to get in but you can walk up to the Greek/Mt Athos border from the Greek side but you are not allowed to cross however if you stuck your arm over part of you would have bashed out the Mt Athos territory!Much harder to visit Mt Athos than the other strangest European territory; the Sovereign Order of Malta (not to be confused with Malta!).

@adamdudley8736 10 месяцев назад

Thats amazing. Ive never wanted to visit a llace so much and im not even religious

@Ptolemy336VV 9 месяцев назад

I have been there. It was truly incredible. There are by the way some crazy drone video shots from. Mount Athos in some docus. Not too easy to find the ones I mean, but they are out of this world

@anastasiszaroliagis5066 4 месяца назад

If you went there you will find your internal God...😊

@VinnyUnion 10 месяцев назад

Good.

@thamithwala3011 10 месяцев назад

Not only are women banned, but also children, livestock and media. They can't jail kids, livestock or the media so I understand why the heavy punishment. The previous attempts were a good enough reason.

@Giannis_Sarafis 10 месяцев назад

Boys can enter Mount Athos with a male relative of their. But not babies for obvious reasons.

@patricemitchell4392 9 месяцев назад

Sounds like some funny business are they on the down low 🤔 gay monks ? So no woman or babies just young boys and men. Ok

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

@@patricemitchell4392 there are lesbian nunneries if you're interested. lol

@johnrichards3666 9 месяцев назад

If I found myself in a place with no women it would probably take me a few days to notice.

@wagwanbennydj6003 9 месяцев назад

I've known about Mount athos for a while and always thought do they have family's and then the sons take over? Or is it just when one man goes another comes

@loveintheend89 9 месяцев назад

They don't have families, they are monks! Every young or old male from any Orthodox country can apply and go live in Mount Athos if he chooses the monastic path in life.

@tatarofromfyromistan5010 9 месяцев назад

The second.