@@Ed-yu3cw That depends. If you are new to recumbents, then it might feel harder to pedal a recumbent because you need little bit different muscle groups than with upright bike. So it needs some practice to get similar power output. But in general any two wheeled recumbent should be faster on flat road compared to a mountain bike with same amount of power output, because recumbents have better aerodynamics. But then if we are talking about mountain biking stuff (jumps and technical terrain and features and stuff), then I guess a mountain bike is easier in any way.
Ever since I saw an article in the magazine "Mother Earth News" showing how to build a recumbent trike sometime back in the early 80's I wanted one. As a teen back then I didn't have the skills or tools to make one. Now I have my own BikE that I purchased second hand I am still able to ride even though I have 3 slipped disks in my back that make an upright bike impossible for me to ride.
This is exactly what I tell people when they ask me the same question. I was fed up with a sore neck wrists, shoulders, back, and backside. Recumbents rock 🎸🎸. Safe riding.
Often concluded all pros and cons of recumbent vs upright I could think of. Recumbent pros: More comfortable.(used to have back pains, now they're gone) Faster.(aerodynamic) Safer.(Better handling because of weight distribution and much shorter break distance. No falling head first over handlebars at full stop) Much more fun to ride. :) Recumbent minor pros: Car drivers let you cross street 3-4 times as often, since they are curious to "What the hell is that?" Much easier to carry stuff while riding, holding camera or ice cream in one hand etc. Recumbent cons: A bit more expensive. Scary to ride in winter some times if the roads are slippery. Much harder to get off the bike fast if you slip. However much less painful from the lower height compared to upright if you do fall. Unwanted attention. Being "abnormal/strange" is terrible to many for some reason. Recumbent preconceptions: Recumbents are only good for long distance/touring: Hell no, they are just as convenient or even more so for every day use going shopping in town or going to work. An AZUB Max has the same wheel distance as any normal bike and hardly takes any more space to get around in towns. I find it way more convenient to go shopping with an AZUB Max compared to my ordinary mountainbike since its just so more comfortable at carrying lots of cargo. Even in my lap if the bags are full, often riding home thinking, no one would ever be able to do this shopping run on an upright bike. Recumbents can't go uphill since you can't stand... Standing does'nt really matter when you have many gears and use SPD pedals to both push and pull the pedals. Service and spare parts are expensive: No, it uses for at least 95% of the bike exact same components as any other bike. The only difference is the shape of the frame and thus the positions of the components.
Recumbent con: They don't fit in the bike rack on the front of the bus. Those racks, at least in Seattle, are designed to hold an upright bike. So a mixed commute (bus and bike) is out. Recumbents are harder to start going up hill from a complete stop. I have to sort of shove the bike as I'm standing over it and hop on and push a stroke. Usually I can do it but it took some training. Falling, Your legs hit first. I've fallen twice at speed and both times twisted my ankle. (one time on each side) But had I fallen on my road bike it could have been a head, or serious arm injury. I also have a much harder time staying upright in slippery conditions on the recumbent. But I've fallen on ice on the road bike, sand on the recumbent. Neither was fun.
@@abhabh6896 it's no problem to just unclip one foot and put it on the ground. However, its more convenient to just hold the traffic light pole with one hand as I do most of the time. :)
Agree with you 100% Saukki! I started riding recumbent bikes in the 1980's. I also had some upright bikes at the time. It didn't take long to realize that my recumbent was much more comfortable than an upright (upwrong) bike. So much better for commuting in winter when you attach a fairing to the front of a recumbent and the best bike for long distances. I eventually sold all of my uprights but I kept my recumbents.
Thanks for the video, Saukki! Upright bikes were always painful to me: seat, wrists, shoulders, neck, hands... ow! My recumbent trike is super-comfortable, like riding a recliner chair. I was astonished by how much more I enjoy riding because I'm comfortable all the time, and can see so much better. I see more wildlife and it's great for birdwatching because I can see UP so easily, and stop to watch without needing to put a foot down. The natural neck position gives me a HUGE field of view, making it much easier to see traffic and pedestrians. At intersections I can just stop and let autos have the right of way. I ride mostly in a busy city, and drivers notice me FAR more on my trike than on my upright bike. Hey, if drivers can see a cat, beer can, or road stripe, they can see me... if they can't, they shouldn't be driving. But on a recumbent, they NOTICE me far more. There are lots of bicyclists around here but drivers often ignore them. My trike is geared low so I can climb steep hills, go as slow as I want to with no dangerous wobbles, and stop to rest without dismounting. To pedal harder, I push back against the seat. There are a few disadvantages like weight, but the fun factor is SO MUCH more that I can't imagine ever wanting to go back to uprights.
I had upright bikes as a child and collage. Loved riding anywhere. Later years like in my 40’s to now 60’s, the stress on my neck, back and mostly wrists got to where I was worn out after short rides. That’s where these recumbent bikes are great. Now again I can ride for long time without discomfort. Need a few weeks to really feel comfortable, but it’s worth it. And there really cool.
Once again, Saukki comes through with the most useful information ever, pertaining to velomobiles, and recumbents. I mean, he just cuts right through the bullshit, and goes into detail, about the things that mean the most. To a real cyclist, this is a gold mine of useful information. That's why I love this channel. For example, no one has ever had the balls to talk about what it's like to fart in a velomobile. As funny as that may sound, it happens, and it is important. It is things like that is what makes this guy special. He tells you all the details, the little things, & the things that matter the most. Looking forward to the next one. Ride safe, my friend.😎👍💯💯💯💯💯
Wow. I don't think I'd leave upright bikes behind but doing some nice touring trips with a velomobile is now definitely on my bucket list. This is the coolest thing I've seen in a long time.
Some may say that Cycling everywhere cyclist>odd person Recombent cyclist>more odd It takes time that oddnes fades away. 150 years ago running was considered odd.😉🧪🧐🥳
i got a fat tad trike in the summer of 2017 and went from 230 lbs to 160 lbs in 15 months by triking around the 10.3 km Stanley Park seawall in Vancouver 1000 times. Not a dull moment I might add. worth every penny
Recumbent, the best bike ever for a good long ride. But going up hill --- Agggggg. not as much fun. You cannot stand on the pedals, makes a huge difference. Great video. I really liked it. Thanks.
I love hills on my tadpole. If I get too tired I can just stop. Generally I just drop into my granny and spin my way up :) And the downside is a blast.
It does take a while to get used to the handling of a recumbent vs the upright bike. However the trade-off of comfort to climbing a hill fast is really not worth it. I get to the top of hills and I am sitting in a comfortable chair all the time I am riding . Riding in the city ? No problem but like any means of transport you need to assume that the driver can not see you even while looking into their beady eyes and they are looking directly at you. Sometimes the neurons just do not connect when one neuron sees the bicycle and runs off to find the other neuron to say there is a bike in front of us . I found that the upright bike has the swoopability function whereas the bent does not , so yes I am a bit limited in dodging cars , but I have grown accustomed to what I ride and swooping is just not required. Hills up I do not walk, hills down , I have disc brakes as it flies downhills and against the wind is so much nicer when you do not have drag on those legs hanging down below you.
I have had many versions of both. Once I rode a SWB recumbent on a 75-mile tour -- no pain at all! Best for long distance. I ride my upright bike around town -- better for traffic and stop-and-go -- or if I'm going to ride many steep hills.
Great Video ! Here is another reason why, "Bike Sebring, recumbent rotating paceline" here on RU-vid, Cruzbikes, going fast ! Jim Parker and his wife, owners of Cruzbike... I tried my first bent about three years ago and now I have 5 ! Someday a Velomobile !
The thing that always bothers me with my recumbents is that i need to wear my bicycle shoes to hold me feet comfortable on the pedals. That's why for short distance to the shop or a friend I jump on a upright. I enjoy riding upright a specially in high traffic. I am noticing not much speed diffrence on a upright but the comfort is beyond comparison! That's why I pedal like a mad man on a upright, I want it to be quick and over :))
Awesome video. I am just now beginning my “research” on recumbents and was intrigued by your comments about the CruzBike as that was one that I was already focusing in on. I was steering my thoughts toward the S40 for my needs but the pricing was higher than I really wanted to invest. However……………….after hearing your comments I will probably figure out a way to test ride one of those to make a decision. Again, awesome informative video!! Thank you
It takes courage to put recumbent over upright bikes. ;-) Aren't you preaching for own parish? ;-) As recumbent and velomobilerider I totaly agree of course. But can I think of a reason to buy a uprightbike? Yes I can. You mentioned a few good reasons. I think of just short rides in a city. Do some shopping. Moving around in heavy bike and car traffic. OK it's possible with a recumbent. But I think a uprightbike is far more practical and faster. Also parking at a station or elsewhere in a city. I always find somebody 'interested' in my velomobile. When a (cheap) uprightbike is niked I would be shocked at first, but get just to it. If it's my recumbent or velomobile I would cry my eyes out and never get over it. But then again....I try not to visit cities. I avoid them as much as possible. So I seldom ride upride bikes....
The only thing I hate is people taking a seat on my recumbent when it's parked. Dude wtf, this is my bike, not public property, go sit on a bench. Since it takes a bit of practice to ride it I'm not afraid of people stealing it, But it probably helps that my city beater is kinda old and rusty, but then again, it was also pretty damn cheap.
I do agree: in city traffic, the diamond-frame bike is better since your eyes are higher and the shorter wheelbase makes for a more agile vehicle. But for longer rides and cyclotouring, a recumbent is much more comfortable.
The only thing is biking in the city upright bikes I feel allow you to be more agile to avoid unattentive motorists in the usa here where biking is less popular then scandinavia
I ride a Baccetta Strada bent now for the last ten years and will NEVER go back to a standard upright for anything but a short ride to Aldis to buy grocerys.
I have an ICE VTX, and it is different than a two-wheeler recumbent experience. It drives like a racing car, and feels like it the more in fast turns,but most of all I can safely go as slow as I like, and enjoy my surroundings with comfortable and safer balance which I have to think about a two wheeler...or I can hit a whopping 55 k.s per our, on a flat surface, or even hit near 100 K per hour on a long winding downhill...it is a little safer or more. And it is comfortable, long range. I also have a Riese Muller, shocks in the front, and under the seat, 2 wheeler, e-bike for shopping etc, it's great, but now I wish I bought the double battery, and back suspension, just for more fun! I may buy a decent 2 wheeler for fun; know any good brands to look at? I am like yourself, when it comes to riding, I like touring long distances, mostly cruising, I do not ride in races, nor dirt bike either.
Locking the bike in theft-prone areas. With a diamond-frame bike, a U-lock easily locks the rear wheel and the frame against a bench. Add a short cable so nobody steals your front wheel, and you are good for a few minutes. It takes much longer to similarly secure my recumbent.
For sometime I have been thinking about getting a recumbent bike, all my life I have been sitting and cycling, and now with recument could lay down and cycle! Here in Chicago I very seldom see anybody riding one. Also not readily available to buy, today I saw one here in Springfield in a store, I am making up mind to get it, hopefully I can ride it. I ride my harley and Goldwing easy, I guess I could ride recumbent too!
Very interesting. I find a few other disadvantages of recumbents...if you have a very low center of gravity bike like my homebuilt fwd lowracer, and even my homebuilt Easy Racer it has a very fast "tip" rate, or pendulum rate. This means they respond fast for turns (a great plus) but slip quickly to the ground on ice. I do not use my 'bents' in the winter. I watched enviously your riding your recumbent on those icy roads! Also find that there is an ergonomic advantage to power output on an upright. Lastly because of so many years of refinement, for the price upright are lighter for the price)
That's not true when it's the same rider going faster. I own a fast road bike, tt bike, and recumbent. The recumbent is the fastest and the road bike is the slowest. Aerodynamics is the biggest factor as speed increases. I was asking if the front chain drive was more efficient basically it went over your head
@@mindciller Bents are faster on the flats and downhills. Aerodynamics. Especially if, on the downhills, you've got big front rings. (And no crosswinds). Faster than uprights. Don't have experience with velos but I'd assume they'd be faster than an unfaired bent. FWD/MBB are twitchy on a very twisty descents.
Upright pros (which in my opinion make them the only choice): In UK you have to push bikes on pavements and if commuting (Worcester) there are many many pavement shortcuts you have to take. If you push a bike then a recumbent would be a massive pain (where do you hold it?) You also have to carry your bike up steps (e.g. by Worcester Cathedral) and my folding bike is easy and small for the winding stone steps. If you commute you often have tiny spaces to keep your bike and a 'bent just would be too big. Therefore: Commuting to and from many UK towns? Get a folding bike which you can push, fold, park, carry and cycle. Oh and you can keep it in the house as it's tiny. Not everyone lives in a forest utopia with no traffic and a double-garage... Bents look great however but I wouldn't like to wait at a dual-carriageway Pelican crossing on one and nip across like I can on my folder. I still want one though but I know I couldn't use one as a weapon-of-transport like my 20" folder. I see them as like microlight aircraft: lovely things but not really for Britain - well commuting anyway.
I still thoroughly enjoy riding my Vision solo recumbent and living in the south west of England a day's ride - out can easily involve over a 1000m of accumulated climbing! Not bad at 77. Regards Garth
Why I love my upright road/cyclocrosdbike? Because ist is more active to ride. The feel of the direct connection via the chain to the road. The agile handling, the light weight and the power to accelerate fast are things a bent can notprovide me with. I’ve ridden both.
Well I’m building a KMX trike right now , just did a ride on my upright bike in a fierce headwind I couldn’t help but think I would be a lot more aero and lower to the ground if I had my recumbent built!!😊👍
Hi Saukki I have a high racer road recumbent and is great to handle and ride I like to hear again all the benefits of driving an open recumbent and a velomobile! I now those recumbent riders are banned through the organization UCI. The recumbent and velomobile riders really don't need there an organization UCI or their "big" money behind. It's of course, possible to make a world racing HPV organization, but it requires a professional organization with opportunities to have world media and television coverage. Visiting Spezi Germersheim in April this year again to test ride velomobiles and else. The new Alpha 7 and the Go-one KS is is a interesting. Another thing! I bought some caps from you last year but some stole one of them, are they so popular:-) I like those caps and will buy another one in spring. Thank you Martinius/Norway.
When ever I go on a ride I pass up a lot of these guys I have never had one pass me. They seem to be very comfortable especially if you have a huge gut as most of the people I see on these things do.
My experience on a crus recumbent follows much of what you say as true, yet they have many drawbacks. 1. More expensive, 2. Difficult to climb steep hills. 3. Not allowed on Japanese trains. 3. To wide-long to get through park / bridge barriers 4. Can’t get off seat to reduce shock going down stairs ex. 5. Limited to two panniers 6. Much more work on stomach muscles . 7 limited viewing over walls. 8. Can’t see what front wheel is hitting. 9. More space needed for U turns. 10. Slower start up speed.
That really depends on what type of bent you’re riding. 1) The “more expensive” is highly debatable. Sure there aren’t many “cheap” bents, but the price you pay is similar to other smaller production run bikes and the components are generally higher quality. 2) Difficult to climb steep hills is always true, bent or upright, but in any case the downhill is usually there to make up for the lost speed from the uphill. 3) the train problem is true in elsewhere than in Japan, but it’s not usually the main factor for deciding on a bike. Also, usually with a bit of extra planning you can probably get around that fairly easily. 4) Short wheelbase bikes are pretty good on manoeuvrability and there’s not many barriers I can’t get my bike through that a normal bike would pass. Besides, there’s all those barriers I just ride under without stopping and maybe just cocking my head to the side to clear. 5) It’s fairly common to have a luggage rack on the back wheel on which you can hand two paneers and you’ve still got space on the side of the seat for another two. I’ve been bike touring with my brother on several occasions with the tent and everything I need for two weeks without space to hang it all really being a problem, certainly no worse than an upright. 6) I don’t know where you get the “more work on stomach muscles”. In my experience that’s simply not true on the other hand there’s almost no work on the arms, shoulders, neck. 7) Limited visibility over walls and hedgerows is true, but on the other hand, the natural heads-up position is much better for looking out for pot holes, traffic, pedestrians instead of looking at the 3 meters in front of your wheel and craning your head up every once in a while. 8) not true. As stated above, you’re constantly looking ahead and very few things indeed hit your wheel by surprise or accident. 9) see point above about short wheelbase recumbent. Besides, I might have to do a u-turn once every 50 miles and I can readily do a u-turn on most roads. 10) Bikes with a smaller 26” rear wheel have plenty of acceleration off the start.
I own 2 large wheel recumbents , a SWB bent and a LWB bent both with 26” wheels. Built for touring and both have internal geared hubs. They both are very heavy bikes at 20-24 kg each and therefore not very fast bikes. In fact I average 4 km/hr faster speed on any upright I also own. I get tired of hearing this speed reference to recumbents because they are not faster from my experience though they are more comfortable to ride. I do find them harder to navigate in traffic and starting on an incline. There is reduced rear view angle while riding so mirrors are essential both on helmet and on the bike.
They are pretty cool, but i like a upright bike for cycling in city traffic. I wish more people used them however, just a little handful around these parts.
My lower back is completely finished, with hernias and arthritis. I cannot use an upright bike because my lower back pain will get worse and will cause me to stop after biking a short distance. Can anyone tell me which recumbent bike would be the most comfortable for people like me with serious lower back problems? Thanks for the help !!
I guess the most comfortable type of recumbent would be trike with full suspension. And you should adjust your seating position to low angle (more reclined) so your body weight will distribute on larger area.
Got a Bacchetta Corsa A-70 because of back/neck pain and saddle sores from years on uprights. I ride more high mileage rides now than ever before with little to no pain. It uses 700c wheels so is pretty high and visible. It is also more than capable of speeds equal or exceeding up right road race caliber bikes.
That is one solution. I would have to leave the state of florida to find a bike friendly city to live in. I always rastionalze that all it would take is one car to do you in if bad luck or a poor decision on my part is a factor, no matter where you live
Recumbent-very comfortable, awesome aero, great view...can't ride up a curb, climbs like a crippled pig. Recumbents are great, but an upright is more versatile.
Have to try one. It looks exremely odd to ride. I would not want one on crowded cycling lanes getting to work thats for sure. One last thing is the sheer size. Not really handy.
I have not ridden recumbent , but in upright you stand up and you can glide over bumps, how do you do that with a recumbent? . Yes I can see the aerodynamic advantage but you are laying on your back ...??
Do you have any videoes showing how you actually store your recumbents where you live if not could you make one? I have few times tought of buying a velomobile but this was allways the thing that stopped me as how would you store/park a velomobile in a 2 room city apartment. For me these sounds very much like first you need to own a house before you can own a velomobile. Recumbent like you are riding here would propably be a bit easier to store but they still take more space than a simple bike.
I know many who store their velomobile outside like a car. Velomobiles are pretty much weather proof. Some people have built a small ”garage” for their velomobile. Basically a wooden box just big enough for a velomobile. I have a big garage where I store my bikes. You can see it in many of my videos. For example all my velomobile maintenance videos are shot in the garage.
Hey Saukki, what gear shifters are you using on the Azub, are they thumb shifters? Do they work well? Thinking of a change from gripshifters on my Bacchetta.
Shimano SLX thumb shifters. I like them very much. Works very well, no broblems. I like the fact that with these sifters you can change to the other direction with your index finger or thumb, so the lever works in both directions.
I have a recumbent trike, and there are only two downsides to a upward bike. You are a bit less visible and its harder to see around corners or over the fences (although when you are spotted drivers give more space), and the price which is a bit too high at least when it comes to trikes. Everything else is better on recumbent, i am faster, more comfortable, i can ride much longer, also its an attraction magnet and you can socialize with people easily. Young girls also like it a lot (from my experience) and thats a huge + :D
What do you think about the Flevobike? Like you can just ride without using your hands and you can turn left or right just with using your weight, not your hands. And what do you think about scooters? The ones with up to 28 inch front wheel?
Flevobike is also interesting bike. I find all MBB (moving bottom bracket) bikes interesting. I’ve never tested one, so it would be very interesting to test someday.
Cool vid dude. Love all kinds of bikes but really want a project recumbent. Possibly a fat recumbent or fat trike. I've done one video using a basic KMX kart, so watch this space!
I'm looking for a bike to do a long road run. I did once but I was always climbing, it was so stressful. Very tine seat... Do you know about this kind of your seat in electric bikes? How long could I cycle per week in flat conditions? Cheers and congrats from Brasil
You can do same distances as on an upright bike. Even longer as there is no pain coming. So it depends on the rider. We were get used to do around 80 km a day on a bike on long distance tours doesn't matter whether upright or recumbent. I can easily imagine 150 or even more...
they are great at touring however terrible for city riding the wide wheel base and low body maneuverability so il stick to my upright fixed gear for the city
To each their own, but if it weren't for a sevear saddle area problem that I had an unsuccessful operation for, I'd kick my recombinant to the curb and be back on my conventional bicycle in a flash !!!
Some recumbent seats are mesh and we use fenders. Saukki's seat is molded carbon fiber. He might get some water on his neck. Fenders, kickstands and helmet mirrors are not embarrassing on recumbents. Nobody bothers you if you have a flag either. It's not as cliquish as road riding. We even mix MTB and road component groups. :-O I haven't ridden wearing padded lycra/spandex shorts in 2 decades. Some recumbents go down stairs. ru-vid.com?search_query=recumbent+stairs. I don't know many roadies who ride up stairs much unless they do trials. I carry my recumbent up and down stairs like a suitcase. Grab frame at balance point and lift. Have fun!
I want a recumbent trike for comfort, but all the shortcuts around here are terribly overgrown. Not just shortcuts; there are all sorts of interesting but tiny and uneven paths around here. I don't think it would help to have a recumbent bike because on such paths I find balance an exciting enough challenge when I'm upright to start with.
A more reasonable question is 'why WOULDN'T you Ride a Recumbent"? Upright bikes are only good for numb nuts, sore wrists and sore necks if you're going to ride for more than 25 miles or so.
I got in touch with Cruzbike and they offer to send me a V20 frame set from USA. But at the time I couldn’t afford to pay the import taxes so I had to decline their offer. Maybe some later time 😅
Saukki - The Velomobile Channel I bought a V20 frameset, added Shimano Ultegra components and carbon wheels from Specialized (Roval). It is about 3 mph faster than my Bacchetta Corsa. However, I would trade my Cruzbike and Bacchetta for a velomobile like yours. Enjoy
Hi I’m thinking of doing a charity ride. What bike have you got looks very comfortable. I weigh 110kg / 250lbs and would companies help by lending one before buying for the sake of charity?
My bike is Azub Max. You should ask your local dealer if they would like to lend you bike for test ride. Some dealers are willing to lend bikes for testing.
Unless you have an existing injury/condition it may be that your pedal's are too close. Try lengthening the boom. Too short is bad for hips. Too long is bad for knees. HTH
I think Upright bike is OK for technical and artistic things. like MTB, BMX, with the technical trails and skate park. Others, like Speed and Touring, recumbents win
I have a pudendal nerve injury and cn no longer ride an upright bike - does anyone know if a recumbent would be feasible as an alternative? I have an Elliptigo, which is great, but not very fast, and more of a substitute for running.
A vehicle is supposed to be practical for your needs and your riding environment. You just happen to have all the boxes checked for what you like, what you need, and where you are.
@@Garacha222 I always use the sidewalk when possible. A good life insurance at night. Today's LED lights are all powerful enough and the blinking function attracts further attention!
Recombine bikes is good. You can ride faster on flat than on up bike. But recom. is haver. If you have many hils and need often use brakes, then your energy is go to head, and then you waste less energy on up bike. So on flat faster recombine. In place were many hils and stops faster upride bike.
Yes, but why the big rush? Upright riders are in a panic to get where they're going so they can get off that saddle! 'Bent riders don't need to hurry nearly so urgently.
Recumbents lead to 'bent butt disorder. And also, numb toes. I have to jump off every time my toes start to go numb on a 'bent. (But I do otherwise really like my recumbents!)
If I had the money and lived in a flat and cyclist friendly country (I don't as I live in the UK but use to live in the netherlands) I'd get a velo type mode of transport.....
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@@TheVelomobileChannel Hyvin mahdollista, paikkakunnalla oli ainakin pari mansikkatilaa siihen aikaan. Tuli mieleeni että saattoi olla joku jalkavaivaiselle invalidille tarkoitettu menopelikin.
Sorry, meant way more comfortable than a road bike. But I see your other point, that of long distances. However, 99.99% of people who use these cycles and most other cycles don't do 200km races everyday. They use them as utility devices to get to work, to the shops, the school, the movies, etc. 50km would be edging on the extreme for a commute. These Dutch bicycles are very comfortable in this way. However... you gonna have lunch breaks anyway... so eh it may be comfortable for 100km :)
