Why Yammy's ZERO ESPADA Twist Didn't Work (For Me) | Bleach DISCUSSION 

I figured it was about time we talked about the Hollows again, so today we're looking at Espada no. 10, Yammy, and his rather unexpected twist! As you can see, it didn't necessarily work for me, but what did you think? Let me know!

Wonderweiss was an interesting secret weapon of sorts and having him be Espada 0 would've made a ton of sense, and could've been a nice little shock for the Gotei 13

The same Zaraki that almost died to Espada 5 cuts Espada 0 limbs like butter. Zenkai Boost and self-supression excuses aside, it felt totally absurd.

I think power comes with respect, you cant respect someone who was slapped off-screen

The best thing of Yammy was Kukkapuuro. You forgot Kukkapuuro, he even had a arrancar number. In the games Yammy is just a big mass of reiatsu. Just because you have reiatsu doesn't mean you have technique that's why Zaraki said it was boring. You just have to cut him until he's dead, which probably took a lot of time because it was a lot of reiatsu to cut. He will miss every cero (which is a basic hollow skill) as long as you have at least decent evasion and movement speed so you don't even need to worry about his damage output.

Actually the fact that he could handle chad renji rukia and ichigo like they were flies made him look incredibly strong but somehow byakuya and kenpachi defeated him with less trouble then when they fought weaker ennemies

Well in the end Kubo wrote him as the 0 espada, so he was in fact the strongest one canon wise. I think we can't discount the remarks the shinigami soldiers make as Kenpachi and Byakuya return, saying even though they are walking fine, they are heavily injured, as we can see with them covered in blood and torn clothing. Just because Kenpachi said it was boring, doesn't mean it was easy or that Yammy was weak, he always says stuff like that. And to be fair, it did take two of the strongest captains working together to bring him down in the end, so that's a testament to Yammy's threat level. Kenpachi's eyepatch was also shown removed when they got back. Kind of sucks he was off-screened indeed, but as you said we already seen both of these captains fight a lot already so that's probably the main reason it was skipped over, in addition to possible time constraints. I also think the small scenes with Yammy's doggo adds a bit more layers and dimensions to his character than you give him credit for, maybe not much, but certainly more than just a one thought blundering punching bag. We know because of Aizen that reiatsu is king when it comes to sheer power and possibilities, so the fact Yammy can store and generate infinite amounts due to his ever rising rage (much like The Hulk), it was easy for me to see why he is the 0 Espada. Also I am not surprised that Zaraki was able to lob off bits of Yammy when Ichigo was barely denting him, I mean, cutting stuff up is kinda his whole thing. Having said all that, I'm not exactly defending the choice to make Yammy 0 Espada, only that the way he wrote it, makes logical sense. At the very least, I do wish they would have shown the actual battle, if nothing else to see more interactions between Ken-chan and Byakuya, as their chemistry/rivalry is amazing.

I remember making a 0 Espada OC back in middle school. I was so upset when Yammy was revealed and just got shit on by Byakuya and Kenpachi as a joke

After reading the manga i get the feeling Kubo forgot Yammy existed until Ichigo fought Ulquiorra, and then had to find a reason to make the 10th espada stronger than the other ones they had already fought.

The reason is because they tried to say that fat tub of lard was stronger than Ulquiorra and Grimmjow.

Cause they just wrote him off as being dispatched by two captains. If anything, him being number 0 just to be written off like that merely made the other espada look weaker in my opinion.

I think Kubo thought he'd have a overkill moment. But then he remembered he had to play with Aizen

I have thought it would be cool if Matsumoto was a part of the hueco mundo beating and Ayon vs 0Yammy! Would've been cool I said this comment was like two minutes to go I don't know if you're going to say it! Love your work!

Yammy was foreshadowing that Ichigo would have to fight Aizen, a foe he doesn't have a strong, personal connection to but is incredibly strong all the same. Yammy not actually appearing as strong as Ulquiorra diminishes this, and if we say Yammy is that strong, then truly the power scaling is completely out of whack (this isn't the only offense on that front, but that's another topic). Still, he was pretty fun early on and had a good fight with Uryu later, his end is just bad frankly.

Even though I would say bleach is my favorite Manga/anime I can still say it’s not perfect with Kubo giving us plenty of “fairy Tail” moments with Kubo just making problems that could have been completely avoided with just a ounce of planing/foresight.

I might be misremembering, however I SWEAR that I remember yammy saying he was the 0 espada also when he was first revealed

0: The number of punches Tommo pulled while destroying clown Yammy

Couldn't agree more. You've summed up my thoughts perfectly.

I would say Ulquiorra was probably the REAL cero espada

This is a very good content! I love the fact that your analysis is on an objective point of view and I agree with everything. I mean, I would still buy Yami being Zero if there will also be a sudden shift of his characterb from being angry, being calm and more human. Like a toned down physique but can read combat scenarios or something. Like his very creator, Aizen. I don't know, a lot of opportunities that can be improved.

Honestly, Kubo should've let Only Aizen Know about Ulquorra, and just says he's the Zero.

Ulquiorra and Yammy were the Vegeta and Nappa type of villains, although Yammy was willing to tell Ulquoirra to shut up at times.

Great video. I just want to know where to read the color chapters, even if it is in Japanese.

The anime kinda implied yammy didn't actually die

Might be mistaken but didn't Mayuri collect Yammy? and is now possibly another of Mayuri's corpse unit? would assume most espada that were killed in HM were collected by Mayuri.

Kubo has a talent of ruining interesting characters. And almost all cool characters are killed by the runing op joke that is Kenpachi, like the man doesn't die, has an ambiguous power scale and many times Kubo decides that the character will defy logic for the sake of the plot. A lot of fight would've been more interesting if Kenpachi didn't fight them.

Fans: WW is so OP! Maybe he's Espada 0! Kubo: Nah, he's just a fire extinguisher.

Someone should’ve died after yammy was revealed to be the 0 espada or at least destroy everyone he was fighting so when he got beat up so easily I was so god damn disappointed

The 0 represents the 0 fans and interest that Yammy had

When the "Strongest Espada" is off-screened, that just kills the whole idea.

Yammy only peaked when he ripped Chad's arm off, backhanded Orihime, and beat up ichigo. I wanted him to stay at 10 and have Chad fight him in Hueco Mundo.

My biggest issue with the reveal was that it meant nothing, he never showed any amazing feats of strength, no special or unique abilities, It affected nothing in the story, and most importantly we never even fucking see his "true" form fight.

He's just kinda... bland, compared to the other Espada.

They had a legitimate chance to give Ichigo’s friends a hard-fought W after taking years of Ls in publication. And then Kubo said “UNLESS”

Let's be real, Yammy being espada 0 was one of Aizen's twisted jokes. He did it because he knew it would piss off Barragan even more.

May be the espada 0 thing was something of delusion that yammy made up himself

Yammy turning out to be espada 0 is like if Omaeda turned out to be a member of Squad 0. If you're going to do a twist like this, at least do it with a character that isn't so unlikeable

Kenpachi had harder time with the 5 Espada Nnoitra than he did yammy. Kenpachi kept mocking yammy through out the whole fight while with Nnoitra he was enjoying the fight and was force to take it seriously.

Not to mention that seeing Starrk, that number 1 Espada having to split his soul was a way better reveal than Yammy just eating a lot to gain power and literally cheesing his way though the levels. Pretty sure Espada number 9 had a similar thing going.

Chad should've got a proper rematch against Yammy in Hueco Mundo.

Went from terrifying to annoying as soon as his arm got cut up. When he said he was 0 I was like haha no.

Yea, this is probably the worst twist of the series. Not only does it come out of nowhere, but there isn't even a real payoff. Literally NO ONE was asking for more Yammy. And yes, it would have been cool if like Renji used Bankai to keep Yammy in place while Rukia froze him and then have Chad give the final killing blow.

Probably the closest I'll get to a battle analyst for Yammy. Joking aside this man couldn't get a break, killed off screen, and even after the reveal being #0 he was portrayed as a joke fighting Kenpachi and Byakuya. Wish he turned into more of a Fuhrer King Bradley wrath then just being all bark and no bite.

Let's be honest Yammy was an easy target

I'll be honest, I love this twist. It's completly pointless, but I love the gimmic of 'it's not even my final form BLEEAAARGH' and then he gets off-screened, I laughed so hard.

If Yammy had become smaller, faster and still retained his power I feel like him being 0th Espada would've been more acceptable, but he just became a piece of meat easy to slice down without the defensive capabilities of Nnoitora or healing of Ulquiorra for example to make him a threat.

Just remember guys, 0 means nothing and that’s the care we had for him to be 0.

I think Yammy existed only to show how much Kenpachi and Byakuya are strong.

I don’t think his twist worked for anyone lol

his personality is horrible, he has no charisma, and Kubo makes him weak (based on his feats). In my opinion Rukia, Chad, Renji and the captains should team up against he

“Defeating Renji, Rukia, and Chad not that impressive, because let’s be honest, who hasn’t beaten those 3?” 🤣. Absolutely savage, but true. At least EOS Renji and Rukia and super strong.

One of Kubo's strongest points is his plot twists yet this one felt so out of place and underwhelming that I refuse to believe that it was his idea to add it in. I wonder if his editor had any play in this decision given how popular this arc was and how dragged out this fight felt.

I never bought it. It was great that even after the reveal Zaraki and Kuchkhi would rather fight each other than him

I love the concept of Suddenly Smart Wonderweiss. Take this almost innocent but deceptively evil kid and make him a total mastermind character that comes outta nowhere and wrecks everyone. That's some fanfiction material right there.

It would’ve been better if Yammy remained the 10th Espada when he released his zanpakuto and have Chad along with Rukia and Renji defeat him.

Yammy revealing himself to be the 0 Espada is a literal *“wait, that’s illegal”* moment. I’ve noticed that the fight with Yammy has the opposite problem with Gerald’s fight. The battle with Yammy was cut short, whereas, the battle with Gerald was never ending.

If something has the word “zero” in Bleach you can bet your ass it’s going to be handled pretty poorly

"Nothing but a bumbling fool who was beaten by every character he fought". 🤣😭😂 Damn let the guy save some kind of face Sheeeesh. He was really a straight clown though.

Made him the 0 Espada and then beat him off screen. Kubo, what the actual fuck!?!

in my eyes yammy makes me think about that boss in asura's wrath who think bigger = stronger, but yeah, putting aside his overall nice design in resurreccion he's not that worthy of the 0 rank

Just when we thought he couldn’t get any uglier, he surpassed our expectations.

Honestly I see the whole 'Yammy was the 0 Espada all along' twist as just a Kubo troll.

My biggest gripe with the twist was how the battles against the top three Espada were happening at the same time. We were just introduced to Coyote Starrk, Baraggan Louisenbairn, and Tier Harribel. They were presented as the strongest Arrancar, but Yammy just barges in to invalidate their ranks. Since we already knew that Byakuya and Kenpachi could already handle the single strongest Espada, it sapped the tension out of the Karakura Town battles. Throw in Yammy being treated as a joke and off-paneled, and you have the Espada fizzling out as a threat.

It was a meh reveal for me personally. I still believe Ulquiorra is potentially the strongest all around Espada while Yammy is just brute strength.

That really was a horrible twist. Yummy was played to be too Goofy for him to be zero. I agree, wonderweiss should've been Zero over Yammy. Plus Zero yammy wasn't even good and one of his worst designs.

In ichigo defense... He did have only a quarter of reatsu left

He needed to be zero as how else could Kubo have kept Kenpachi and Byakuya off the battlefield against the remainder of the espada where they could have done some significant damage

I personally felt that Barrigan should have been the "0" Espada. In my mind. He would have resented Aizen for overthrowing his reign. As such, he would have segmented his power so that he did not tap into the wellspring that was granted from Aizen. However, by doing this, he would be the 10th Espada ranking him lower than people who would have paled in comparison to him if left to their natural strength. His pride as a King would not allow him to capitulate. I feel this would have fit the personality Kubo gave him.

If they dropped the whole number 0 thing and was just him exclaiming that he can grow stronger than the others by accumulating energy then I believe it would have been more accepted. You draw way more attention to better characters when ranking is factored in and comparison to anyone else is Yammy's worst failing. Another take that would have been more funny is if we had Gin, Tosen, or even Aizen himself mock the 0 position as an aside implying that they gave it to him to shut him up.

Honestly I like the idea of Wonderweiss turning from a baby into a hyper intelligent adult and him being the 0 Espada that idea was 10x better than Yammy being it, in fact I would like it if Kubo retconned Yammy being the 0 Espada and make someone else it. I don't know I just never liked Yammy he was the only one of the Espada I generally disliked and honestly disappointed he was the 0 Espada.

He should have stayed number 10.

I think the only reason that kubo made yammy the 0 espada was to not have them in the fight against aizen

Least favorite twist in the series. I also hate that Kubo never bothered to explain it in an interview or something. To this day, I cannot fathom what was going on in his head when he decided to make Yammy the Zero Espada.

The only thing I like about the Yammy twist is that it strengthens my theory that the Espada numbers aren't infallible, and that Segunda Etapa Ulquiorra really was the strongest Espada of them all. There's just no way the strongest Espada got off-screened by two mid-tier Captains, Starrk dying to a Shikai was disappointing enough.

Kubo just didn't care about him as much as some other espada

He wasn't the strongest

It was just Kubo's bad writing honestly

Zero as in, he should’ve never been an aspada

Man the way he played yammy out … it was horrible. I was hoping his final form was going to be maybe something coming out of him. Like it was using him as an incubator. Also your idea of wonderweiss being smarter and way stronger when he takes out his weapon. Def a cool Idea

I'm not going to lie, this was a really interesting idea and I really didn't see it coming. I love it! I just didn't like that it was Yammy who was the zero espada. If it was Ulquiora, it would've made sense since he has two resureccion

The way they treated him, he remained the tenth espada regardless of him shedding a one. He reminded me of kommamura.

The one saving grace from the off-screen fight with Byakuya and Kenpachi is that in the Fullbring Arc Byakuya mentions that he is beginning to enjoy fighting for the thrill of it, which he absolutely picked up from Kenny.

An intelligent wonderweiss that can talk at least would be very interesting and special

The Immense reiatsu should of augmented all his espade abilities to max so it would be terrifying to see this giant use sonido

Didn’t Ulquiorra state that espada 4 and above can’t release their swords due to it potentially destroying Las Noches, does that not apply to Yammy since he started as 10. One would think, once he became 0, it will would affect Las Noches and surrounding area..

yeah hated him

It's not just you. I don't think that twist worked for anybody.

All I was expecting was Chad, Rukia and Zabimaru having they're spotlight properly defeating a espada, Yammy being the decima espada

Yammy being the zero Espada was interesting in the beginning, then fell flat in all facets of execution. Had he maybe shrank in size the angrier he got thus condensing his power but also became SMARTER as he shrank, it would've been far more interesting. Add to the fact you have an unintelligent brute so big that he can barely see his opponents fighting against two of the most powerful captains and it's basically like fighting a hollow version of Komamura's Bankai Kokujo Teggen Myo'o, a big target that's only good at hitting stuff (debatable) really hard.

"Espada aren't ranked based on their fighting ability, but on how much Reiatsu they have" Sorry, but this never made ANY sense. It has been shown again and again that Reiatsu = fighting ability. It says nothing about how skilled you are or how much versatility you have in your toolkit, but it does say how strong and durable you are. That was the whole crux of the fight between Ichigo and Kenpachi - Kenpachi had vastly more Reiatsu than Ichigo, so Ichigo couldn't hurt him. If Yammy at full power really has the most Reiatsu out all the Espada, then that necessarily includes Ulquiorra, who in just his initial release form tanked a Getsuga from masked Ichigo like it was absolutely nothing. So if Yammy is superior to Ulquiorra in terms of raw power, then how the hell are Byakuya and Kepnachi able to cut him up so easily?

Kenpachi tried harder against NNOITORA than he did against Yammy, even though they are supposedly five places apart Kenpachi had to focus all of his spiritual pressure on his sword with both hands to finally break through Nnoitora... Meanwhile I don't even think he used the sword in both hands once again Yammy

Aroniero could be a good 0 Espada. His whole death could be a illusion from Aizen, and he would be hiding while the fights between espadas and captains were happening so he could kill and devour the espada after they were weakened or killed in their fights. And after that he would absorb their powers and become the 0 Espada, since he had the power of all or most of the espada. And all of that would be Aizen's plan to keep half of the captains in hueco mundo.

i always took it as if he Self-proclaimed him self to be the 0 espada , i mean most of the arc he was ulqquiora bitch.

Chad vs Yammy would have been really nice to follow alongside the emotional rollercoaster of Rukia vs Aaraneiro (sorry if I butchered the spelling). Two dudes just brawling it out with Chad fueled by an intense desire to beat him after what happened when he last saw yammy. Sadly Chad was fodderized by Nnoitora after his first victory we’ve seen from him for no real reason :(

The biggest problem with the “biggest reiatsu” argument is that reiatsu levels are a measurement of strength, the higher your reiatsu the higher your abilities, we see this with how Aizen explains how abilities and strength between shinigami are settled through “flexing” reiatsu, Ichigo vs Kenpachi is a good example here, so saying Yammi has the most reiatsu would imply he’s the strongest, but he isn’t

I agree with that the fight would've felt better if the supporting cast took down Yami. Up until this point Yami was a joke against any captain level threat, but that doesn't change the fact that he's a living tank. No character below captain level ever scratched Yami, not even Ishida's pentagram did much more than trap him for a few minutes. Yami's style was always just to use his massive reiatsu and body to run over people who couldn't handle him. It would have been a massive boost to Renji, Rukia, and Chad if they grew to a point where they could finally topple this behemoth. Plus, Ulqiorra and Yami were introduced together. I personally feel like it would've been cool if both of them were fighting their battles in different places. Like if Yami was leading the Executas against the supporting cast, while letting Ulqiorra have his fight undisturbed. Yami finally releasing his zanpakuto to become a big monster to run over these characters who have never been a threat to him before.

I think it kinda makes sense, hes an angry cocky guy who's only concerned with power, it would be weird if he was the weakest. Still a stupid twist.

Even in his resurrección, I still see him as the weakest espada

To me it wasn't legitimate, just a temporary thing, otherwise he should've been a bigger threat than Baraggan...

For those who state Gerard was no Better. The difference between Gerard Valkyrie and Yammy is that Gerard NEVER lost his speed In his God Form, Actually fights for something and Evolves during the Fight and actually Stays a threat during his fights.