I've got hundreds of hours on that game but the one thing they don't get right are the suspension components. You can jump a car from 50 ft and it will deform the entire frame, but your ball joints remain intact, your tie rod ends remain intact, the spring although compressed further doesn't break, essentially you can continue driving around. In reality a 50 foot jump or even a 10-foot jump would blow out ball joints and tie rod ends, among other suspension links leaving your tires hanging.
Lada would be good car for Pennsylvania roads. Running joke in PA is if you're weaving you're sober and if you drive straight you're drunk (because of all the potholes)
The good thing about steel wheels is that they are very easily repaired. An alloy that's been bent or cracked must be replaced. Yes, I'm aware that alloys can be "repaired" but not without special tools while also making them brittle and unsafe.
Around 2005 my neighbor had his ‘03 Tacoma towed into his driveway. I was a kid at the time and I remember looking at the wheel and his Toyota alloy had a massive hole brown through it. To this day I marveled at what set of circumstances could have caused this and now I think I know the answer all these years later, thanks G54
@@cigarsgunsandgasoline8032 depends on which state. I've been around a bit of the west coast and most of the east and i'd say the worst i've seen it is around new york (mostly near manhattan, upstate was rather nice) and north carolina. outside of those, it's mostly smooth driving with very few potholes unless you venture more than a few miles off the main interstate into a small town.
@@mishopetkov7633 back when 18" rims were big and 20"s were show off status I got a sedan in for tires that had about 3- 6 lumps on each wheel... All 4 alloys. I wondered how many tires that person had been through. The car was used and being refreshed for sale, so all the tires on it were mismatched in brand and wear (yet it was a 2 year old off lease car). We replaced the wheels obviously, it was crazy to see so much damage. The car was also pretty dented up. An obvious city car.
The speed isn't the only answer to the destruction. It's an equation of wheel size, speed, pot hole depth and pot hole lenght. But hey, now you know if you have 1 and an half long poth hole lada wheel driving around 35km/h, you wont like it.
I bought a brand new Lada in 1982 in Belgium for around $2700 USA. It was tax free and had to be exported. We travelled for 6 months around Europe. It was a great little car, even for sleeping in some of the time! Bought another new one here in New Zealand, but was not the same quality. NZ used to swap them for butter!
Here in South Africa, we struggle to find a road with no potholes! 😂 What we, or what I sometimes do if I can avoid the hole is to tap the brake just before I hit it, then floor it through the hole. In my brain, this causes the front to dip, then lift as it goes through, sort of jumping the hole if you can understand what I mean. Maybe you could try this and a few other things to try and save your tires. They also say the faster you go, the lest damage, but you need to go way faster than 30kph. Maybe 80 - 100 over that hole to make a difference.
Awesome! Very good to see what happens. Very educative and informative. In Brazil cars are used to that type of road. And also NEVER BRAKE on a speedbump also! Accelerate it!. If tou brake, it will brake the engine and suspension. But good luck braking after that and maintaining straight. Cheers
I still have yet to find any pot in these "pot holes" . . . Maybe one day I'll get lucky and find an ounce in one. Seems everyone gets there before me or something .
For those that don't know, the name "pothole" comes from the pre-industrial era. Potters (pottery makers) need good clay to make their pots and cart ruts often exposed this clay beneath the soil where they would dig "potholes". You're welcome 🤗
So if you see a pothole speed up. got it!👍 It would have been good if you put an old engine in the boot to see what the extra load would do to the back wheel.
Another awesome video, I'm using driving fast enough that potholes aren't much of a problem, but when someone unexpected comes along I usually just hit the clutch and after taking the hole let the clutch out and keep driving. I once went right over a median as it was brand new and hadn't been there before. I'd gotten over into the turning lane a little early like I always do, but being night blind and not having bright headlights, I didn't see the freshly installed curb thay put in what used to be a turning lane the entire time until it was much to late to stop. I was going about 80 kilometers per hour and I didn't see it till I was about 15 meters from it. I had a car next to me at the moment so I couldn't just jump back in the lane I'd came from so I simply hit the clutch and went right over it, then I proceeded to the light and did the necessary U-turn to reach the gas station that I was already going to. While there, I checked me car out (tires and wheels) and everything was fine. The driver can make all the difference regardless of the car. A bad driver can make even the best cars bad, but a good driver can make good of pretty much anything that runs.
Unsprung weight, the real deal ! Funny how every auto maker are selling new advanced comfy slushbox with anchor 20" alloy rim nowadays as an improvement ! The reason why lightweight shitboxes are so confortable offroad compared to heavy SUV & pickup trucks.
I hit a 4x10 or so piece of lumber in the road at about 50mph with a dodge promaster city van. It has regular steel wheels and tires like an old car. No damage. I was surprised
8:15 That's super interesting to know. 🤔 But when you properly think it through, that is correct. The rear axle with its suspension parts are much heavier than the individual suspension setup in the front and thus the weight for the wheel to push up is much higher, thus things don't happen enough fast and rim gets damaged. Super interesting. 🤔 This is the reason why I watch your channel. 😄
Great video! I drive high mileage in cars with sporting suspension and never damage or blow out tires, or damage wheels, and have only ever had two or three alignments (necessary after long-lived tie rod replacements) in over 900k+ miles, and my front end components also tend to last a lot longer vs other people around here and the only reason I could come up with is that I lift off the brake before impacting a pot hole whenever possible (even if that means heavier braking before hand), which I've done since shortly after I began driving. I started doing it because I had cheap cars in the days before ABS and doing this prevented lock up that increased braking distances as well as not feeling nearly as hard a hit at the wheels, which led me to think the impact forces at the pot hole trailing edge were being more concentrated to a single point as the wheel locked up when it became unloaded after passing the leading edge of the pothole as demonstrated here. I also run my tires on the higher side for pressures.
I think its just crazy to watch the front wheel suspension move as a mass counter clockwise after it hits the pothole. Its amazing how much give the suspension has
Dude, the content was really good and interesting and practical, and I exactly agree with your opinion on this matter, you are very creative and have interesting and good ideas, thank you
We once went with Ford transit on highway in the night. Empty road, we went like 120 or so, suddenly we dropped with bang. Road there was suppose to be repaired and they indeed scrape down top 8 cm of road, but either they didn't mark it or somebody stole the sings. In any case, here it was, almost ten centimeters drop down on the highway in the night. But it woke us up, not gonna lie.
Something I noticed.....look very closely at the front wheel at 35KMH (time 4:35 and 5:21). The camber and toe was affected. It was toed out a hair after the hit, and cambered out towards the bottom. Little story. My mom had a 1996 Jeep Grand Cherokee a while back. Solid front and rear axle. She hit a frost heave at 40mph and it bottomed out hard enough to dent the top of the axle tube in the front.
Reminds of when I bent my steel wheel like that and my friend brought out a sledge hammer and the soapy water and sealed it right up. And I thought I was gonna have to replace it. I’ll take it to the grave. Works good, especially in a pinch.
@@rian0xFFF yeah we can. It depends on how sever it is and whats the outcome. it's the same with having wrong variable message sign speed limits on highway with heavy rain or snow. if there is damage then there is failure to maintain the proper road conditions.
After this video, weld the shocks, struts, lower and upper arms, ect, to show a "before" and "after" of just how much of a difference these components makes in driving and handling. 👍
The rebound damping in the shock absorbers would change how far the tire drops into the hole. If the shocks are worn out then the wheel will drop faster. Be interesting to see the slow motion footage with new and worn shock absorbers.
I believe the front is moving fast enough that on the initial impact it doesn’t do enough damage because it’s moving fast enough, but on the second impact it slowed down enough just wrong also because it has a solid axle
Very informative experiment, thanks for sharing so I can confirm thet steelies are best for Indian city roads cause we've potholes and bumps built into new roads because of uneven manholes.
It also looks like the rear wheel is stopping because the traction is on the rear, and he still is on throttle so the other wheel is on the ground and probably stops this one because of the open diff
I recently hit a bit of the median strip that was sticking outward, head on in my WRX at 60kph. Massive damage done to so many components.Still waiting on some of the parts after 14 weeks.
Depend how far your car/bike with the hole, if the brake can handle distance between, then better use your brake, but if you didnt notice and the distance too close, better open the throttle higher. Acceleration move weigh distribution to the rear, so the load in the front suspension reduced to minimum, prevent damaging both front wheel and suspension.
