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Why You Should Study Film Scores 

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@WeAreMagikarp
@WeAreMagikarp 7 лет назад
I love how the music from 3:36 to the end fits in perfectly with the advice!
@Nemo_Anom
@Nemo_Anom 7 лет назад
I like your synopsis. I approach this a little bit differently than most. I don't want to score films, but I find the genre absolutely fascinating. (And I do agree--it's fast becoming a homogeneous field and film music is fast becoming elevator music) I'm a writer and an amateur musician (piano, recorders, and voice) and I find studying film music aids not only my musical studies but also my literature studies as well. Film music is quite narrative! I'd recommend any writers who have some musical talent or know-how to spend some time studying film music as well for these reasons. Good video. :)
@ryancunningham9291
@ryancunningham9291 7 лет назад
It's real easy to say "find many scores online and for purchase". Dude, I don't know where you've been looking but I can never find full orchestral scores to study. It's always some crappy piano reduction from Hal Leonard.
@ericgriffin120
@ericgriffin120 6 лет назад
www.omnimusicpublishing.com: 6 Full Movie Scores $80 a pop
@Pernection
@Pernection 6 лет назад
Ryan Cunningham I have CD music that I still burned on my desk stop.
@jeremykeaton274
@jeremykeaton274 5 лет назад
Try scribd. There are hundreds of full movie scores, from classics like Hitchcock films to Pirates of the Caribbean. You can start with a free trial and once you download the pdfs, they are yours to keep, no strings attached (even once the trial ends).
@justelynnnjoelle
@justelynnnjoelle 5 лет назад
One of the most important skills you can learn as a musician is auralizing. Learning to listen out for specific instrumentation overtime will allow you to chart out the score yourself. That's how FilmScoreAnalysis created most of his scores on Sibelius. It gets easier overtime as I've stated, but that could take years.
@redditreading2024
@redditreading2024 4 года назад
@@justelynnnjoelle r/Cinemascores thank me later!
@oskararnarson
@oskararnarson 7 лет назад
You chose one of my favorite scenes from cinema for this essay. Very much appreciate this channel. Thanks.
@PianoGeek3
@PianoGeek3 7 лет назад
Absolutely enchanting! Your work is always a pleasure to see, and I feel like going out and transcribing more music after watching this! Thank you!
@ozboomer_au
@ozboomer_au 4 года назад
Very helpful video. I'm a pure hack, even though I've been playing keyboards & guitar for 50 years.. but I learnt sooo much about any/every style of (orchestral) music by listening to music, perhaps a phrase at a time.. and following along with the full orchestral score. The placement of a tune/interval works by rules (mostly) and y'have to learn them.. especially when supporting a visual... but some folks have too much ego to learn from those who've come before.. For me, there have been no greater teachers than John Williams, James Horner, etc... and particularly Bernard Herrmann... and Maurice Ravel.. even though I still can't compose anything much past one bar... these 'giants' are always there with something else to teach us...
@flakethefox9005
@flakethefox9005 3 года назад
Hans Zimmer has made me love the world of Film Scores for a long time. Yes, he is no John Williams, but its whats gotten me interested in it!
@paulstodolny3091
@paulstodolny3091 5 лет назад
As a lover of Film music for as long as I can remember and being Brand New to composition... this channel is incredible in pursuing my education. THANK YOU!!!
@LasseKarhu
@LasseKarhu 3 года назад
As an amateur transcriber I highly approve of this video and your channel. The vast world of film scores is the source of power... unlimited power!
@AugustoMazzoli
@AugustoMazzoli 7 лет назад
Awesome inspiring video, Brad! I am very fortunate for discovering your channel here on RU-vid. I'm learning so much thanks to you!
@Pernection
@Pernection 6 лет назад
I am so glad I saw this channel. I did some score replacements with the different movie tracks for star wars and a non SW music track.
@gravics
@gravics 7 лет назад
I'm inspired and encouraged by this. Thank you!
@jarrodroyles-atkins9955
@jarrodroyles-atkins9955 7 лет назад
Long time watcher of your reductions - amazing work on them and amazing work here! Your knowledge and passion is articulate and infectious. All the best!
@meimeidelcastillo8819
@meimeidelcastillo8819 2 года назад
This is so helpful. Thank you!!!
@FelixPando
@FelixPando Год назад
I love this video and information.thanks.
@thefilmfrontier6822
@thefilmfrontier6822 6 лет назад
Love this. Great job man, you earned it!
@Wildduckpro
@Wildduckpro 4 года назад
For more knowledge of film scores. I recommend picking up the Mission Impossible Fallout Blu-ray and listing to the Isolated score cut of the movie. And listen to composer Lorne Balfe Commentary track to get to know his process, how he approaches a scene, and what inspires his music.
@MaxTooney
@MaxTooney 7 лет назад
Nice essay! I have enjoyed your score reductions immensely. I appreciate you sharing your knowledge--and i applaud your efforts, as the reductions have to be very time consuming.
@---wd3ij
@---wd3ij 7 лет назад
your voice is so soothing, you should make more videos like this!
@The80sBoy
@The80sBoy 6 лет назад
Very profound Brad and I agree wholeheartedly with what you say. Keep up your brilliant and illuminating work.
@jiminyjustin
@jiminyjustin 6 лет назад
I like how as soon as you mentioned the quote from Isaac Newton, I immediately thought to that line from cave and how he ended up fucking himself over in the long run. Then you go ahead and show the clip anyway. Great video!
@antoniosmusic
@antoniosmusic 2 года назад
Thank you man, you rock very much.
@underscorepodcast5688
@underscorepodcast5688 7 лет назад
Exceptional! Thanks again for all your great work.
@FilmScoreRundowns
@FilmScoreRundowns 7 лет назад
Saw your RU-vid site on the feed....Keep up the good work. Noticed you deal primarily with contemporary scores down to the Silver Age (JAWS, etc). I would be interested if you someday tackle Golden Age scores composed by Bernard Herrmann, Max Steiner, Dimitri Tiomkin, and so on.
@SpielerischKlavierLernen
@SpielerischKlavierLernen 6 лет назад
I wish modern film "composers" would study scores, so we can go beyond the over-produced "one loud deep repeating note" and "minor triads" music of today, which we can thank mostly Hans Zimmer for. Themes and orchestration are a rarity these days, sadly
@peterfischer494
@peterfischer494 5 лет назад
Actually Hans Zimmer is a pretty good orchestrator...
@eb.1
@eb.1 5 лет назад
Peter Fischer no he’s not. Sound design is his forte.
@GillesVandenoostende
@GillesVandenoostende 4 года назад
Blame placeholder music. Editors use existing OST’s as stand-ins to make the first cut and then directors ask composers to make something that fits the same mood & timings on a tight deadline. That’s why almost every epic movie sounds like Zimmer or Mansell or Williams. Few directors consider music to be important it seems, unlike geniuses like Kubric who can re-use classical pieces and make them sound like they were custom made for their movie, just by virtue of how appropriately they were chosen for the scene’s mood & setting. Film directors perhaps need to go listen to more classical music instead of popular film soundtracks from the last few decades if we’re ever going to get more original film scores. Steal more ideas from Beethoven instead of remaking the Dark Knight.
@semanticsamuel936
@semanticsamuel936 4 года назад
Zimmer's score for Interstellar is, well, stellar. Easily one of my favourites. It's not complicated, but I find it utterly captivating and it fits the mood of the film perfectly. Solo organ was an unconventional choice of instrument, but I'm glad that's what was chosen. I really cannot think of much else he's done that I truly love. Pirates of the Caribbean has some nice ideas (though other than the theme everyone knows I'm struggling to think of any melodies off the top of my head). The Lion King is better known for its songs rather than the score. There are interesting ideas in Inception, Dunkirk and other films that I really like, but they're things you notice and think, 'yeah, that's cool' rather than thinking of them as whole scores. Otherwise, I think so much of modern film music is the equivalent of Michael Bay explosions. Impressive the first time you hear them because they feel massive and energetic, but you just kind of become a bit desensitised to it and it no longer sounds like anything. I think blaming placeholder music is a bit simplistic. Films have used placeholder music ever since films existed. While it is quicker and easier to edit nowadays, it's also quicker and easier to write music. You can have something that 'sounds like' the placeholder music without it being a near clone of it. I think a big part of it is simply trends. It's what people like (even if it's lazy orchestration). I also think composers are under much stricter time pressures than they used to be. John Williams rarely did more than two films a year, even at his peak. Zimmer regularly does four or five in a year, sometimes more. The same is true for plenty other contemporary composers. Why that is I don't know, but nobody can keep up that pace of composition while writing music as texturally rich as, say, Hedwig's Theme.
@OperaGhost-jq8yz
@OperaGhost-jq8yz 4 года назад
@@semanticsamuel936 I think that Brian Tyler is a master at writing good music fast, but his best scores (Thor: The Dark World, The Greatest Game Ever Played, The Mummy, etc.) were all ones he had more time for.
@daniellowry660
@daniellowry660 7 лет назад
Love it. So glad I found your channel. Any chance you could analyze some Elliot Goldenthal cues. Always been one of my favorites.
@ho-lingtang7501
@ho-lingtang7501 7 лет назад
Amazing video! It definitely deserves more views!
@OdanUrr87
@OdanUrr87 7 лет назад
No need to convince me. I find that a great score often elevates the medium it accompanies, whether it is a film or a (video) game. In fact, some games nowadays have scores that would give movies a run for their money. While I'm not a composer myself, I look forward to watching your videos and hopefully gain a better understanding of the use of scores in films (and maybe games?).
@reyfernandezjr
@reyfernandezjr 6 лет назад
Your videos are amazing and I will support you 100%
@Wourghk
@Wourghk 7 лет назад
Nice words on a nice topic. Will your next essay explain how all our hopes and dreams of writing original scores with all this knowledge won't amount to anything because producers don't want good music, but good-enough music? It's easy to blame homogenous scores on inexperienced or hack composers, but the truth is that producers tell them to do it that way. Unless you've achieved a godly level of experience and prestige like John Williams before all this started, you will never find a place to try new ideas because nobody wants the inefficiency of discovery or trial and error involved in their productions. They want what they heard before and you'll do it in one week or they'll get some other good-enough composer to take your place.
@TheGeorgeD13
@TheGeorgeD13 7 лет назад
To be honest, in a few years, your comment will more or less become more and more irrelevant. We're headed to an era of film that will be more creatively free like the 70s pretty damn soon.
@CaptainMyCaptain33
@CaptainMyCaptain33 6 лет назад
Wourghk Independent film makers do.... And that is likely where you will start anyway.
@OperaGhost-jq8yz
@OperaGhost-jq8yz 4 года назад
I think that most producers just don't know the difference, and most composers aren't good enough to write really good music.
@nextaros
@nextaros 4 года назад
I don't think it's any coincidence that all my favourite films, television/anime series, & video games contain music that I absolutely love. Although, I guess the question is, do I like them because they have good music, or did a fantastic composer just happen to somehow end up scoring all these things that I would have enjoyed anyway?
@curiouschris98
@curiouschris98 7 лет назад
What a beautifully done video!
@jcchan9380
@jcchan9380 7 лет назад
Great video! I'm surprised you are not popular yet!
@jeffjames4698
@jeffjames4698 7 лет назад
Good information. Thank you!
@alejandrovitali1857
@alejandrovitali1857 4 года назад
Is it okay if I was emotionally moved by a video about full of film scores, explaining why it is important to study film scores? Brilliant. Thanks...
@TruDis01
@TruDis01 6 лет назад
Watch at 1.25x for normal talk speed
@RequiemAmad
@RequiemAmad 6 лет назад
watch at 2x for Jesse Eisenberg speed
@tonihanemaayer9387
@tonihanemaayer9387 6 лет назад
He talks on normal speed, so... what do you mean?
@joshr.2600
@joshr.2600 5 лет назад
How do your speed him up?
@joshr.2600
@joshr.2600 5 лет назад
Thx. Just figured it out. Saved 25%. So 1.25 minutes.
@windhambass
@windhambass 5 лет назад
game changer
@pavlosnoitsis
@pavlosnoitsis 5 лет назад
I needed this so much.
@Ponk_80
@Ponk_80 6 лет назад
But how do I study a film score? There are so many elements that make up specific sounds in a score, that it can be hard to hear what instruments are actually playing at the same time, and what notes they are playing.
@saltysnowflake5832
@saltysnowflake5832 5 лет назад
Ponk 80 Just takes time. I can’t do it yet (I’m only 15), but from what I’ve learned it takes a long time and a lot of studying to become able to pick out specific sounds from an orchestra.
@WesleyWestMusic
@WesleyWestMusic 7 лет назад
Awesome man! Thanks!
@oscarazcautli5380
@oscarazcautli5380 7 лет назад
what an inspiring video. Thanks!!
@andresbonilla6748
@andresbonilla6748 6 лет назад
Thanks for your help
@aprilmartini
@aprilmartini 4 года назад
Are your reductions available for purchase as PDF’s? I’d love to be able to incorporate some of your videos into my film music unit.
@Rayyman
@Rayyman 5 лет назад
Guess you're a fan of JW
@paoloagostini1407
@paoloagostini1407 6 лет назад
Thank you very much...inspiring
@ReenaUtubez
@ReenaUtubez 7 лет назад
best film score in my opinion is bernard hermann's score in vertigo
@bighuge1060
@bighuge1060 4 года назад
Fantastic channel!
@JosephAkins
@JosephAkins 6 лет назад
Sounds like you hit the nail on the head!
@thegavinside
@thegavinside 7 лет назад
You are magic, dude.
@cort.baussmann
@cort.baussmann 6 лет назад
Hey dudes I’m a musician in high school, a freshman, actually. I really love music, and I know I want to go into film score for college, and after college. I practice my original instruments, I practice composing, but I never am able to compose to a movie or video or anything. I think it’s something necessary that I should do, but I don’t know where I would find such things, or how I’d edit it to fit. Do you all have any ideas?
@saltysnowflake5832
@saltysnowflake5832 5 лет назад
Cort Baussmann I’m in the same boat as you, and I’d say take as many opportunities as you can. I’m dropping my study block next year to take music theory.
@TheLibrarianUU
@TheLibrarianUU 7 лет назад
Ook! [How'd you get your hands on Imperial Attack score? Do you know if the Battle of Yavin score exists out there?]
@pokealex388
@pokealex388 7 лет назад
Nice Shatner/Kirk accent you've got going on there.
@tsgames6083
@tsgames6083 3 года назад
Yey portal 2
@whatchrisdoinmusic
@whatchrisdoinmusic Год назад
Eloquently put 😤
@LucasLucasMusic
@LucasLucasMusic 4 года назад
I'd add: do your own stuff too!
@Mythologos
@Mythologos Год назад
Was this recorded one word at a time and then edited together? Because. It. Sounds. That. Way.
@Uhfgood
@Uhfgood 4 года назад
I wish more composers would do this because most modern film scores are filler and background noise
@dull218
@dull218 3 года назад
I want to study
@orionsoutro1794
@orionsoutro1794 4 года назад
I am in college for psychology, but do I need to take official classes in order to learn how to make film scores?
@didyouhearthat_SN
@didyouhearthat_SN 4 года назад
inspiration! )
@yefersonr.olivero7321
@yefersonr.olivero7321 6 лет назад
Qué gran video!
@leizhang9430
@leizhang9430 7 лет назад
Where can I purchase full score about cinematic music?
@edsknife
@edsknife 5 лет назад
Precedence
@davidreece6193
@davidreece6193 7 лет назад
This video is not available.
@euriggwilym1029
@euriggwilym1029 7 лет назад
Cant view it???
@OperaGhost-jq8yz
@OperaGhost-jq8yz 4 года назад
3:00 it's worth mentioning that you don't want to just copy how other composers solved those problems, make sure you're not just writing someone else's music.
@daneoman1000
@daneoman1000 5 лет назад
And remember the giants will die and will need someone to fill those shoes. We have already lost Pouldouris Horner Johhansen
@saltysnowflake5832
@saltysnowflake5832 5 лет назад
When you want to become a film composer but you’re 15 so you just learn from RU-vid. Hey, what works, works. Also, I already listen to Star Wars all the time (cuz John Williams is bae).
@Taverens_Pull
@Taverens_Pull 6 лет назад
I don't....I don't believe it.
@Garp74
@Garp74 6 лет назад
TavernsPull: That... is why you fail. One of the best scored scenes in one of the best scored films (personal opinion: OT being the best scored films of all time, especially because JW started out standing on the shoulders of giants for ANH - and continued having become a giant himself). And a great scene in general.
@saltysnowflake5832
@saltysnowflake5832 5 лет назад
Bednar Herwig Empire Strikes Back has the best movie score ever prove me wrong
@JohnKennedy-mk4ob
@JohnKennedy-mk4ob 6 лет назад
need subs
@AmbushAnime
@AmbushAnime 5 лет назад
John Williams is overrated. Prove me wrong.
@banok3295
@banok3295 5 лет назад
Ambush Anime why ?
@AmbushAnime
@AmbushAnime 5 лет назад
Banok32 he steals the vast majority of his melodies from older composers, and his music rarely contrasts the scene. It adds nothing to the movie other than restating what is on the screen, and a deaf person with subtitles would get just as much out of the movie.
@banok3295
@banok3295 5 лет назад
@@AmbushAnime for example what ?
@AmbushAnime
@AmbushAnime 5 лет назад
Banok32 he stole most of the opening Star Wars theme from another movies opening credits. A better way to look at it is why other composers are better. John Powell, another melodic master, in how to train your dragon, uses themes the same way, but develops them more consistently, and they hint at information about the characters that you wouldn’t know just by watching. It adds depth instead of emphasizing what is shallow.
@banok3295
@banok3295 5 лет назад
Ambush Anime what did he steal ?
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