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Why You Shouldn't Switch To Tubeless! (Just Yet) 

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People often rave about how good running a tubeless setup is on mountain bikes! However, no one ever talks about how tubeless can suck! Rich is here with his top 6 reasons why you should stick to the old faithful tube! Is it really worth forking out money for tubeless valves, sealant, tape and tyres? Watch to find out...
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0:00 - Intro
0:38 - Messy
1:44 - Maintenance
2:27 - Expense
3:25 - Burping
4:28 - Dinged Rims
5:07 - If It Ain't Broke
5:59 - Outro
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@tylercrippen6935
@tylercrippen6935 Год назад
It’s amazing reading how many people have had issues with tubes. I’ve never ran a tubeless setup once in my life, and rarely do I ever get a pinch or puncture with tubes. I can count on my hands how many times I have had to replace a tube while riding, granted we don’t have gigantic thorns like it seems a lot of others have on their trails. You also cannot beat the simplicity, and who cares about the weight savings? I’m not a world class racer, so shaving that little bit off doesn’t matter. To me, tubeless is just another thing to spend money on in a sport that is already insanely expensive.
@notparanoid912
@notparanoid912 Год назад
Depends on the trail, carcass and riding style. I live in the Alps and after a hard run i can count the sealant points on the MAXXIS exo carcass. Never had a sealant leak on my Schwalbe supergravity.
@zacknagel827
@zacknagel827 Год назад
@@notparanoid912 Maxxis in my personal opinion make some of the worst tires on the market. I replace more Maxxis tires then anything else by a long run for punctures. If I replace the same riders tires with Specialized or Vittoria, they will be perfectly fine for comparable ride times on the Maxxis.
@DDD893
@DDD893 Год назад
I think people often had problems with punctures when they using some expensive, extra-light tires. I'm using relatively cheap heavy tires with adequate puncture protection, so there is no reason to have sealant inside. And since they are heavy, tubes don't make much difference. I think tubeless should be used on races, where weight and speed really matters. Using them for leisure riding just adds more problems
@rickmortyson4861
@rickmortyson4861 Год назад
Same bro. Some people just cant ride their mtb.
@rickmortyson4861
@rickmortyson4861 Год назад
@@notparanoid912 continental baron or continental der Kaiser. Those are by far the best tyres. Pls just dont ruin them with tubeless
@raymundhofmann7661
@raymundhofmann7661 Год назад
Just mountainbiking got too boring for me, so added the tubeless hobby to it.
@KiloHertzDJ
@KiloHertzDJ Год назад
still using tubes,and never thought to change something about it,im pretty happy with running tubes🤗
@LiamU5272
@LiamU5272 Год назад
When i first started mountain biking, I used to have constant tube flats, so much so i nearly gave up the sport. Needing to replace one of my tires for a separate issue, I decided to upgrade both and get set up tubeless. I have never once looked back, especially as I have yet to go flat. Tubeless setup saved my love of this sport, I could never consider tubes again.
@JoPro06
@JoPro06 Год назад
Yep, before I went tubeless I had a statistic of a puncture in about 40% of my rides. Now I’ve put down more distance in total than with the previous setup, and got only one puncture.
@gmbn
@gmbn Год назад
Good stuff! At the end of the day, tubeless can save a lot of hassle out on the trails; however, it takes a bit more time to set up! 👍
@Hong1626
@Hong1626 Год назад
same here with lots of flats before, but i just ride for recreation. Now i m not going to trail without tubes with sealant inside. Not yet tried tubeless setup.
@matic1112
@matic1112 Год назад
then u riding garbige tubes and tyres if u go dh tube and dh casing on maxxis or dd casing u good to go! just look rampage 90% of riders run tubes
@phillvallace
@phillvallace Год назад
Hmmm I've never got a flat running tubes, seems a bit odd to me
@TheBraddles82
@TheBraddles82 Год назад
Next week: TUBES SUCK!, why you must go tubeless
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Год назад
Gotta make that content. 🤣😂
@IcemanF14
@IcemanF14 Год назад
These guys are so bipolar
@hrjr5165
@hrjr5165 Год назад
They’ve def ran out of content
@fritzginger15
@fritzginger15 Год назад
My favorite reason for still running tubes is the cost and sustainability(reusable) I haven’t bought a new tube for my bikes in years. I have one spare and will switch it out if I get a flat on trail. Then a patch the tube with the puncture when I get home and put that one in my pack to switch back on if I get another flat in the future. One of my tubes has three patches on it 😆 but it still works great and cost only a few cents to repair. That was a perk I realized later. The original reason I never converted was the mess and fact that you still need to carry a tube for long rides incase of a picture that the sealant won’t plug.
@stevecrump1375
@stevecrump1375 Год назад
Tubes are easy. ...👍
@arifazhari7598
@arifazhari7598 Год назад
Yes, easy to live with. Easy to repair. Especially if u ride ur bike twice a week.
@gmbn
@gmbn Год назад
It's definitely easier than messing around with tubeless sealant!😅
@stevecrump1375
@stevecrump1375 Год назад
@@gmbn 👍
@Zwiesel66
@Zwiesel66 16 дней назад
I agree, tubes worked always well for me too 👍
@francisdee9955
@francisdee9955 Год назад
converted to tubeless. loving the feel, but loving the simplicity of a tube. its also what i like about a hardtail. its simple🙂
@gmbn
@gmbn Год назад
Glad you like it! It saves a lot of time changing tubes out on the trail! 👍
@YING7777
@YING7777 Год назад
I was tubeless and I kept burping when I land a little sideways on small jumps. I got sick of it and went to tubes and everything is great now.
@agennello1
@agennello1 Год назад
Tubes with sealant in them is the bomb. Zero issues in thorny Pine Barens. All the pros and none of the cons. Green Slime makes both Schrader and Presta valve tubes with sealant in them in Fat, 27.5 and 29.
@david94549
@david94549 Год назад
Yeah I swear by them, I run slime tubes on my xc bike and tubeless on my trail bike. Both work really well, slime tube definitely more user friendly
@colinl2908
@colinl2908 Год назад
I run tubes still and a Tannus in the rear. I'm not too fussed about weight, I just want to have reliable fun. Granted you can run inserts with tubeless and mitigate some of the problems Rich mentions.
@gingerninja019
@gingerninja019 Год назад
Also use the tannus armour, best of both worlds and can run a lighter tyre
@rascaldere9327
@rascaldere9327 Год назад
if you want reliable fun... switch to tubeless.. I haven't had a flat that I have had to repair on the trail in a decade... Having to do the chore once in a blue moon vs thorns taking your tubes out once a month is a no brainer.....
@davidburgess741
@davidburgess741 Год назад
Problems so severe on road I almost went airless on the back (road) I now believe a loose tire bead fit contributed to pinch flats. Different tire/rim combinations result in a wide variety of bead tightness. No tire iron neeed with one. It almost fell on, and was tricky to center.
@colinl2908
@colinl2908 Год назад
@@rascaldere9327 makes sense, although thorns aren't a problem where I live luckily.
@colinl2908
@colinl2908 Год назад
@@davidburgess741 is that with a tannus?
@reedymc
@reedymc Год назад
I always run innertubes! I even have the tubeless set up ready to use, but I just cant pull myself to use it....also haven't had a puncture in years :) I tend to run slightly higher pressure for doing jumps and softer suspension to absorb the bumps
@bensieber6960
@bensieber6960 Год назад
Missed one of the biggest: tire changes. Changing tires when running tubeless is a messy pain in the rear. With tubes it's quick and easy. Some of us run one bike for multiple purposes and change tires relatively often. This is not really viable if tubeless. I tried going tubeless for a couple of years and ended up hating it. More mess, more cost, more hassle, and i still got as many punctures. I'm back to using tubes and happier for it.
@buddy7136
@buddy7136 Год назад
I second this comment.
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Год назад
I think it’s crazy that you change tires that often. The solution to that would be to have a whole Nother wheel and tire set up just swap the entire thing out instead of just the rubber. And you’re literally the only person I’ve ever seen that said they had multiple punctures running tubeless.
@garethhughes5745
@garethhughes5745 Год назад
Exactly, if im doing a long journey which will involve 50% road, i'll switch different tyres. job done in 10 minutes.
@buddy7136
@buddy7136 Год назад
@@jbw5485 for the cost of a wheel set I could almost buy an entry level hardtail or I could (did) buy a set of gravel tires to swap out when I want to grind pavement. $75 with tubes.
@bensieber6960
@bensieber6960 Год назад
@@jbw5485 Wheels are not cheap. Some of us ride on a budget. And I ride everything from trails to gravel to roads to city pavement. The only thing that is effective for avoiding flats is quality tires with built in puncture protection. I actually got more flats running tubeless because of running lower tire pressure. And not pinch flats - penetrations and cuts are more likely with lower pressure. Basically, the "benefits" of tubeless never balanced the cost and hassle.
@Gari.Hughes
@Gari.Hughes Год назад
Staying with tubes personally. If you gotta carry a pump and spare tube anyway then I don’t see the point in the extra complication
@benfolds17
@benfolds17 4 дня назад
@@Gari.Hughes exactly! The same thing I've been saying 😂
@wgnwheels333
@wgnwheels333 Год назад
Had muc off in my trance worked mint and water soluble easy to clean and replace but have tubes in my hardtail they are just fine as well.Think having good tyres in the first place helps alot
@bhodson7954
@bhodson7954 Год назад
A great halfway solution is to run an inner tube with sealant in it! Puncture resistance with no mess. A bit heavier, but works well.
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Год назад
Dude said give him all the excess weight. 😂🤣😂
@toadlguy
@toadlguy Год назад
Seems to me you don’t get the advantage of faster speeds, but still get all the mess. Also do you use special valves to get the sealant in the tube?
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Год назад
@@toadlguy he’s joking, calm down. Regular Presta valves.
@jacquie212
@jacquie212 Год назад
I did this on my kids bikes when they had some thorn punctures.
@rickmortyson4861
@rickmortyson4861 Год назад
Thats something pure idiots and no skilled drivers would do.....
@tammylivermore96
@tammylivermore96 Год назад
Glenn here on my wifes account after purchasing a new bike after 15 years since my last one all the modern changes were insane when asked if I wanted mt 2022 GT force carbon pro set up tubeless I said no im so old school and need to get use to all the changes first then thought about it and come up with most of the issues raised here in this video I'll never change to tubeless and after hearing it from the experts only proves my thought's to stay tubed is the way to go
@Rambleon444
@Rambleon444 Год назад
One more problem when running tubeless... If you get a flat with tubeless and have to put a tube in to get home, you have to find all the thorns in your tire the sealants stopped leaks at or they will puncture your new tube.
@IIISentorIII
@IIISentorIII Год назад
😁😶‍🌫😁
@geraldhenrickson7472
@geraldhenrickson7472 Год назад
Thats not a problem, rather it is a step needed to use a tube. The very thorns you mention are another reason to stay tubeless.
@McLOVIN_456
@McLOVIN_456 Год назад
I had so much flat tires before i get tubeless… so i can‘t complain anything about tubeless. I also switched tires two times with my tubeless system… no problems at all 😅🤷🏻‍♂️ I‘m more than happy to switched to tubeless.
@timp2751
@timp2751 Год назад
Got a new bike a couple of years ago and it came fully tubeless ready with rims taped and valves in the box so only needed to get some sealant which at £15 for a litre is hardly bank breaking. The tyres dry inflated no problems so then sealant could just go in through the valves, zero mess. I still take a tube and pump out with me, no difference to tubes there, though I've never needed the tube. Not sure I'd go to the fuss of converting an existing bike though.
@PereAndreuUbachdeFuentes
@PereAndreuUbachdeFuentes Год назад
You're so right! Tubeless just doesn't cut it for me, for all the reasons you pointed out.
@MrGoodaches
@MrGoodaches Год назад
The mess is the main reason I haven’t gone tubeless with our bikes. Also I’ve gotten mixed stories on how often I would have to take the tires off to replace dried sealant. The performance improvement of tubeless wouldn’t be as much for us as most people because of how I set our tire pressures. If we’re riding off pavement I set the tire drops to 18% if on pavement I set to 15%. I don’t do it to calculated PSI, based on estimated weights, guesstimated weight distribution, and the imprecision of a pressure gage. I’ve made actual template style gages for each drop setting and the pressure is whatever the pressure is to get that drop for each tire for whatever the actual total weight of person, clothes, bike, and gear is. Point is that we are safely at ideal pressures which turn out to be lower than what most people think they can run their tubed tires. So the “lower pressure” advantage of tubeless is a smaller step for us. Never have had pinch flats. The long life and uniform wear across the width of our treads is another indication that we’re using the entire tire for our rolling footprint. Our single track riding is all green and blue level trails. We don’t do black level and we don’t do downhills that we can’t pedal up to. So I can’t promote my tire methods for the most extreme types of riding.
@ROBinJVILLE
@ROBinJVILLE Год назад
i run tubes only because i have so many bikes many of them sit for too long
@jasonvanderwarf3963
@jasonvanderwarf3963 Год назад
I have to say The upfront cost of going tubless maybe somewhat expensive however once you have it it remains cheaper than buying tube after tube after tube. Also, adding sealant is not a mess at all if your using the valve stem. Were they have removable valve cores which all of the tubeless valve stems have, there is no reason to ever have to break the seal of the tire. I just feel like there is so much more benefit in the tubeless setup then the tubes. Just one rider's opinion though.
@paulg7002
@paulg7002 7 месяцев назад
Great video. I tried tubeless during the summer. The liquid lasted 3 months then started leaking air like crazy around the valve. I decided to go back to tubes. I am a weekend rider and it just wasn't practical. Taking the tire off was tough because of the sealent along the foldable tire. Finally muscled it and then spent time peeling off the rubberized sealant. Now it is back to the tube glory.
@gatitodura
@gatitodura Месяц назад
I was thinking in changing to tubeless, but after this video I won't. I like simplicity. Thanks man.
@jimihendrix731
@jimihendrix731 Год назад
I’m a professional bike tech and avid rider, primarily road but also do quite a bit of single track. Tubeless is great until it’s not. Tubes are easy to mess with, predictable, and cheap. I would rather deal with glued on tubulars than road tubeless. One great thing that’s come from the tubeless system is the sealant. It works wonderfully on tubular tires and there is no longer a need to carry a full spare tubular.
@hotelbergen8858
@hotelbergen8858 Год назад
A great video again guys!
@gmbn
@gmbn Год назад
Much appreciated! Thanks!
@yannhenriot2568
@yannhenriot2568 Год назад
I LOVE this smile you have when hanging the tube
@MoOutdoorsandReviews
@MoOutdoorsandReviews Год назад
great points, good video
@mrmcdermo
@mrmcdermo Год назад
The tube in the rear of my 24 year old XC racer (Jamis Dakota) is…24 years old. I’m kinda surprised the tire and tube aren’t rotted out but they aren’t. Leaks a bit of air over the winter months but that’s it.
@captjerski4165
@captjerski4165 Год назад
During the 90s IRC tubes were thick, I put car tire sealant and solve my John Tomac tire punctures, the tube sticks to the inner wall of the tire.
@nfcc1
@nfcc1 Год назад
Switched to tubeless both on my mtb and road bikes years ago and would absolutely not go back. Haven’t had issues with it and the only flat I’ve ever got on tubeless was quickly fixed by the sealant (it was on the road bike, which can be a little more challenging with the higher pressures). And if you carry a spare tube for the event that the sealant won’t work, you’re in a similar situation as running tubes - you unseat the tire, take out the valve and put a tube in. Not much different from replacing a tube!
@allahuakbar7717
@allahuakbar7717 Год назад
Tubeless is more work
@R3ddyyg
@R3ddyyg Год назад
I run my enduro with tubes and my DH with insert in the back and tubeless, best of both worlds imo
@therunningman1
@therunningman1 Год назад
Been on tubeless for years. Swear by them.
@johnlantz7278
@johnlantz7278 Год назад
Having retired more time to ride tubes are always in mind for a trail repair an cash is king on maintaining a good day of enjoyment out on a trail or any wear on a ride most flats happen close to home. Thanks 😊
@BushcraftAI
@BushcraftAI Год назад
I love hardtail. So I have vibrocore rims with low-pressure tubeless to be my suspension. And its work!
@stewartjackson1821
@stewartjackson1821 Год назад
I recently damadged my rear tyre, I was running tubeless. If I had been better prepared I could have fixed it. In the end having a tube in the pack pack sure is a good get out if you run tubeless 😉
@nucleardwarf1218
@nucleardwarf1218 Год назад
Best piece of advice that I have seen on MTB sites bar none. Tubeless is simple and inexpensive, easy to repair and no mess. Long may tubeless rule!!!!
@turbodrift255
@turbodrift255 Год назад
I am using a tube until now and havent a flat for years. I use schwalbe super gravity tires. Heavy but pretty safe.
@daviddoornenbal44
@daviddoornenbal44 Год назад
I've had a few dinged rims with tubeless, but i just bent them back with a pair of big pliers and then its seals great again
@SUNGSAM_777
@SUNGSAM_777 Год назад
Another great video BTW.
@pollonero3
@pollonero3 Год назад
I have a tube in the front and an insert in the back with some tubeless sealant. I was thinking to use one of the new generation tubes like the Pirelli scorpion or Tubolito, do you have any experience with these? Do you recommend?
@MrLmao37
@MrLmao37 Год назад
I run tubes still, I live in West Texas and we have goat heads (grass burrs) I use slime in my tubes as I have seen more problems with tubeless than tubes. Sealant goes off really quick if the bike stands for a few weeks.
@rupedog
@rupedog Год назад
Last time at windhill, hitting jumps, my riding buddy got a pinch-flat / snakebite in both wheels (separately). No issues with my tubeless set up. Tubeless is a no brainer for anything than gravel paths (with.no thorns).
@onerider808
@onerider808 Год назад
How are those inserts? Will they work for aggressive riding?
@MB-ek1ub
@MB-ek1ub Год назад
For CX it also depends on your surroundings. Here in 🇳🇱 tubes work fine, but once on holiday in 🇫🇷 i got punctures from thorns every other day. Can see the added value of tubeless in that case.
@gmbn
@gmbn Год назад
Agreed! The gnarlier the terrain, the more of an advantage running tubeless will give you. 👍
@raff5604
@raff5604 Год назад
Don't be fooled. The sealant would have just made a mess. At least you can repair a tube. Once you puncture a tubeless tire it's not repairable and you have to use a tube anyway.
@pycanthusderossi4665
@pycanthusderossi4665 Год назад
@@raff5604 You can repair it in a similar fashion as a car tire is repaired. And are you speaking from experience that the sealant doesn't work or is that just your expectation?
@raff5604
@raff5604 Год назад
@@pycanthusderossi4665 Unfortunately I am speaking from experience. I have had three pin like punctures that just would not seal on the road bike. Then on the mountain bike I had a blow out and all the sealant did was make a mess. I still run tubeless on the MTN but tubes for the road.
@Willowheli
@Willowheli 11 месяцев назад
@@raff5604 Google ,lezyne tubeless repairkit. The misinformation about tubeless is just bizarre.
@pipappleyard3982
@pipappleyard3982 Год назад
I’ve tried out a slime filled inner tube. The reason is because the rim on my Voodoo Bizango makes it really hard to swap inner tubes. I might have to look for a good rim that is good value for money, and is ready to swap one tubes with.
@Michael-qy7xv
@Michael-qy7xv Год назад
Voodoo Bizango owner here and converted to tubeless easily with the standard rims. I did change tyres at the same time.
@nukedathlonman
@nukedathlonman Год назад
Tubes here - but my MTB is older and not tubeless ready. And since the wheels ain't broke, and I can run my 26er tires sufficiently low on air with out pinch flats, don't see the reason of replacing the wheels (leave that for when I finally decide to no longer party like it's 2004).
@HyperBiker
@HyperBiker Год назад
I got back into MTB during COVID and within the first week or two got a few punctures. And I live in the flatlands of Suffolk. Went tubeless and not had a puncture since.
@dcmedia66
@dcmedia66 Год назад
Tubes with Tannus Tyre Armour gives me the best of both worlds. Puncture resistance without the mess and burping.
@DJ.V-W
@DJ.V-W Год назад
I'll stick with tubes for simplicity and I hardly if ever get punctures, last one was probably around 4 years ago, I do have slime filled tubes though, so maybe that helps!
@danmccabe2004
@danmccabe2004 Год назад
Been tubeless for years, only had one hole that didn’t seal itself . Which I plugged and never had to put a tube in
@chrisarksey
@chrisarksey 5 дней назад
I was about to convert my new T8 to tubeless...now I'm going to wait.
@heathr2072
@heathr2072 Год назад
I have never heard a person running tubeless say “you know what I’m gonna run tubes again”. As for set up I just bead the tyre then use a syringe no fuss no mess. It was interesting to hear you have to carry a pump. To be safe you should carry one and if you need to replace a tube you will need one regardless. Tubeless for me the whole way
@riccochet704
@riccochet704 Год назад
I went back to tubes. I didn't like how soft the sidewalls were with tubeless, tons of tire roll for my style of riding. There was no balance between pressure and roll. With tubes I could still run a lower pressure with the added sidewall stiffness which let me corner a lot faster. There's no one answer for everyone.
@raff5604
@raff5604 Год назад
Sealant never worked...I went back to tubes on both my road bikes and mountain bike.
@oscarm.4078
@oscarm.4078 3 месяца назад
I have... Just read the comments lol
@raphaelbrunner4392
@raphaelbrunner4392 Год назад
nice video and i see your tube on the bike, but where is the pump?
@feroxprodz4963
@feroxprodz4963 Год назад
For off-road tube is better... So, for not changing the tires everytime, I prefer the Slime tube ready with sealant, and is working perfect in all terrain
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM 5 месяцев назад
I tried tubeless for trail riding and loved the feel. I am planning to give it a shot again this year.
@getstrongby4038
@getstrongby4038 Год назад
My bike came set up tubeless, haven't had to do anything since
@arc9812
@arc9812 7 месяцев назад
I use tubes in my Trek xc bike, and tubeless in my polygon trail bike, and use the tubes that came with the trail bike as spares.
@bobothericefarmer1878
@bobothericefarmer1878 Год назад
I run tubeless the down side is that if u get a puncture in ur tire that the sealant can’t seal u gotta change the whole tire even worst when the tire is new even worst if u dent ur rim u gotta change ur rim bc u will always leak the sealant
@SwiftyOne
@SwiftyOne Год назад
Would it be possible to put the tubless sealent in a tube?
@BOMEISTER2000
@BOMEISTER2000 Год назад
I used to ride tubeless, but tried a tannus armour and a welterweight Maxxis tube + a good dose of talcom powder to prevent flats Been running that tube for over a year now! I used to get pinch flats constantly so switched to tubeless for years or so, but since using the tannus, a thicker tube and lots of powder it's not punctured since. I had to carry a spare tube strapped to my frame with tubeless anyways incase of tears. So now it's just a spare. Got a new emtb recently and will keep tubes on front now also, never punctured a front so why bother with tubeless (even without tannus armour) I haven't pumped rear tire in like months. My tubeless front on my downhill bike needs a pump every few weeks. Another win for tubes! Tannus on rear also feels nice too, makes the rear feel a little bit more planted. Much better feeling than a cushcore because it hugs the tire wall
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM
@DiGiTaLdAzEDM 5 месяцев назад
I'm not sure what Tannus armour is, but does that not add weight to your wheel? I like to keep everything as light as reasonably possible--especially when it cones to rotational weight. Maxxis has lighter tubes than the welterweight. I'm not sure, but I think they are called Flylight--sub 100 grams.
@recuperacion420
@recuperacion420 Год назад
Sure tubeless in general is more bomb proof, but what I hate are the clogged valve cores, the sticky walls inside the tire when they bond to each other when u do get a flat or want to change tire , the hard tire beads that break tire levers, the layers of dry latex inside the tire that turno into balls of latex ñ. I prefer Tubeless rear wheel, tubed front wheel. Full Tubeless only for racing. I miss the old UST Tubeless tires that worked well without sealant.
@Kandalf8989
@Kandalf8989 9 месяцев назад
I never had any puncture on my 2017 Scott Gambler 720 during 2018-2021 ownership... run stock TUBES which> the bike came with. 2.35 width schwalbe magic marry tires. Rode downhill only sharp rocks, sharp tree leftovers lots and lots of jumps and abuse.. It's just people either don't inflate them that much, in regards to having better traction or just not careful enough tubes.. Having said that currently own Scott Ransom 910 and converted them to tubeless and it's first time will be riding tubeless in my life. Already can say indeed pretty expensive, and so much headache putting sealant, however weight saving is well worth.
@hydroelement9349
@hydroelement9349 Год назад
Tubes all day. Easy to deal with, makes riding more fun when I don't have to worry about all the cons that come with tubeless.
@kerneldave
@kerneldave Год назад
There’s inner tubes that have that in them. When you get a puncture, the sealant fills the hole so you can just pump it up and be on your way 🤟🏻
@skartimusprime4779
@skartimusprime4779 Год назад
I remember that from way back in the 90s lol. Was pretty ass back then i think, probably now now 😁
@davidwangeman11
@davidwangeman11 Год назад
I've been running tubes since I started and was thinking about going tubeless. After this video I think I'll wait.
@gromhub
@gromhub Год назад
I literally used a gmbn video to learn how to fit my tubeless kit 🤯😵‍💫🤣
@Memories4lifemedia
@Memories4lifemedia Год назад
you forgot that you can have liquid in tubes as well... thats what i use.. not a light but two layers of rubber with sealant had.. a few punctures never had a flat... sealent only thing holding my iner tubes together lol
@benjy288
@benjy288 Год назад
I have to address some of the points in this video, first, you don't need to take the tyre off to put sealant in, and you don't need any special tools either, all you need is a cheap plastic syringe, remove the valve core and then squirt the sealant in, plus if you do get a puncture that's too big for the sealant to fix then you can just plug it using a tyre plug, its much quicker than replacing a tube. Second, you don't need a special valve to go tubeless either, you can just cut the valve out of an old tube, ideally you want one with a removable valve core though, and yes it is more expensive initially, but it could actually be cheaper in the long run if you keep getting pinch flats with tubes, plus pretty much everything is tubeless ready these days. I've been tubeless for years now and I don't even carry a tube, all I carry is a tyre plug kit, I can't think of any reason to stay with tubes unless your rim is so badly damaged that it wont seal.
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Год назад
Exactly my thoughts and experience.
@mann_idonotreadreplies
@mann_idonotreadreplies Год назад
I use tubes with reinforced tires like maxxis dhr2 dhf (exo protection).
@mds1422
@mds1422 Месяц назад
Back in 2015 when i started riding mtn bikes again, i would flat probably on 1/3 of my rides. On a fat bike, thats gets expensive. Since switching to tubless, i haven't had a flat. 9 years without a flat. Thats riding bike park and local trails 1-2 times a week. Also, running lower pressures without worrying about pinch flats is another great benefit. I'll never go back to tubes on a mtb or gravel bike.
@timallix4407
@timallix4407 2 месяца назад
I've had my Norco Sight VLT e-bike for 2 months now, it is my first tubeless bike, and I was excited to never have to deal with flats again. However, I have been dealing with a slow leak in the rear tire. How can a tubeless have a slow leak?? Why doesn't the sealant take care of that? Do I have enough sealant? Now the question is, do I go down that road, or just switch back to tubes. I have never liked having sticky stuff on my hands, and I carry a tube in my pack anyway, I see no reason not to go back to the good old inner tube. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
@doctajuice
@doctajuice Год назад
yeahhhhh i went from pinch flats every ride to not seeing a single puncture for several years now since going tubeless.. still carry a tube in my pack for long rides just in case but i promise the extra maintenance and up-front cost is very much worth it
@sanity114
@sanity114 9 месяцев назад
I have rode for two years every weekend on my tubes and just found my first slow leak on a tube..no mess..no fuss...just switched it out in a few minutes and back riding again...
@skooterbrah
@skooterbrah Год назад
Where I live there are massive amounts of goat heads, which are hard, sharp, large, and quite nasty thorns. I normally have to pull dozens of these monsters out of my tires during any ride, even on the road. I ran tubeless for a while, and was constantly having to add air, and eventually found the sealant dried up, and was left with a very flat tire, and an unpleasant mess. I went back to tubes with Slime sealant and almost never have any issues. I will admit that tubeless feels great, but I don't think that it is particularly useful for the environment that I ride.
@josiahmontgomery4860
@josiahmontgomery4860 Год назад
Sounds like living in Reno
@timboha8191
@timboha8191 Год назад
I’ve always been a tube guy, but last few weeks I’ve been getting multiple thorn punctures on the same ride. Last ride I got three at the same time and I could see that wouldn’t have happened tubeless. So ordered up some stuff last night.
@jbw5485
@jbw5485 Год назад
I went tubeBliss, and never looked back. you have to check your air pressure before every ride, but you should be doing that anyway.
@brianwright9514
@brianwright9514 Год назад
Since my MTB and road bikes were converted to tubeless, I've only had one complete flat that I couldn't ride on. That was because I ran over an old steel fence post just barely out of the ground that had basically rusted to a point.
@bindingcurve
@bindingcurve Год назад
@@brianwright9514 But can you swap tires on the same wheels twice a week? I may finally go tubeless with another wheelset, but I'm still trying to settle on the tires.
@brianwright9514
@brianwright9514 Год назад
@@bindingcurve I mean, you can. It's a bit messy, as others have pointed out, but it's definitely doable. But if I was doing that very often at all, I'd just get a second wheel set.
@nicolaspade1341
@nicolaspade1341 Год назад
Tried tubeless… was great but I just have other issues and have several times had to stick in a tube. Currently haven’t been bothered to change back to tubeless… but back to punctures… they still suck!
@lilburn1984
@lilburn1984 Год назад
I haven't made to leap to tubeless yet and I'm not sure I will. I decide to try Tannus armour which you do need to purchase a smaller diameter inner tube for but I haven't had a puncture yet and I managed to slash the tyre on a sharp rock which i think tubeless would not have sealed. This is where I think Tannus shines over anything else (large gashes in the tire)
@HarborEdwin
@HarborEdwin 29 дней назад
I hate tubeless! Finally found my perfect, better than tubeless anti-flat system. Tannus Armour Tire Inserts! I run them with, yes I really do, undersized Slim Extra Strong self sealing tubes. Aaaand, I run my regular 28psi front & rear, because the Tannus make for softer tread pressure with 2x improved Traction. : ))
@ncryptd
@ncryptd Год назад
I converted from tubeless to tubes injected with tubeless sealant. No flats since on desert trails where there is a lot of cactus.
@jjmaxx3834
@jjmaxx3834 6 месяцев назад
This reminds me of the olden days when tubular/sew-up tires ruled. Some advantages for racers but not for the everyday rider.
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes Год назад
Oi, I went tubeless for the first time yesterday based on all your PREVIOUS videos! Now you make this... LoL I'm happy to report it was an easy, mess-free experience but I wonder if the $60 bottle of fluid will truly pay for itself compared with my $10 puncture repair kit and $5 inner tubes...
@mchereja
@mchereja Год назад
60$ ??? WTF?
@subliminalvibes
@subliminalvibes Год назад
@@mchereja actually about $55 Australian... So that's approx £30. But that's for a litre of Muc-Off! Big bottle.
@FirepoiMo
@FirepoiMo 9 месяцев назад
I put baby powder between tubes and tyres. Doesnt help with punctures, but feels much better when driving with low pressure, as the tube can move freely.
@gepetto____4669
@gepetto____4669 Год назад
I was just considering going tubeless since I have tubeless ready rims with tape already installed. My tyres however (Schwalbe Smart Sam) don't seem to be tubeless ready. So, perhaps I will go tubeless after these tyres are worn out. But for now, tubes are just fine (with some improvised tyre inserts btw)!
@jonm7272
@jonm7272 Год назад
Hi, you can definitely set up Smart Sam's as tubeless. I have them on two of our bikes and have been running them tubeless for the last couple of years with no problems (I'm using Stan's sealant)
@gepetto____4669
@gepetto____4669 Год назад
@@jonm7272 Thanks for your comment. I bought some Muc Off valves + sealant and tried it, bit of a hassle getting the tyre seated on the rim, but it works! Thanks again!
@jonm7272
@jonm7272 Год назад
@@gepetto____4669 great news. Glad to hear it worked. Yes, I noticed it says they are not 'tubeless ready' in their specifications but it does seem to work OK. Mine have been holding air well (on two different bikes) for a couple of years now! I usually add some fresh sealant through the valve stem each year as it tends to dry after a while.
@marrinermerrill20
@marrinermerrill20 Год назад
This video honestly makes me want to switch back to tubes haha.
@TheDedicatedcyclist
@TheDedicatedcyclist Год назад
Make sure to bring PLYERS of some type with you on the trail. You will need them to loosen the valve stem on the tubeless setup. One more thing to carry with your spare tube. Otherwise you may find yourself walking when you can't get the tubeless valve stem out.
@geraldhenrickson7472
@geraldhenrickson7472 Год назад
Nope. They should be hand tight. Why would you need to remove them on the trail?
@TheDedicatedcyclist
@TheDedicatedcyclist Год назад
@@geraldhenrickson7472 You have yet to experience the tubeless failures including the valves
@TheShift1313
@TheShift1313 Год назад
I ran a tube at 35psi and got a pinch flat on a rocky trail. Converted to tubeless. Than 35psi. Dinged the rim and lost a seal..... eventually the sealant was able to seal after a few pump attempts and got me back down the trail. Not really an option with the pinch flat tube. Im thinking now foam inserts might be the option :)
@andystevens530
@andystevens530 День назад
I'm running tubes in vittarios,tubeless knocks the weight down yes,but I hit hard trails,and rarely get punctured,always carrying a spare tube in the camelbak. Tubes all the way for me
@METEORA_47
@METEORA_47 Год назад
tube with insert for my hardcore hardtail tyre is my choice 🤘
@craighorner4607
@craighorner4607 9 месяцев назад
I will never do 2 things. #1 run tubeless. The tires do not fit the rim properly and are a nightmare to remove to patch a tube. The tires almost require a pair of tin snips to remove them #2 no front derailleur Planning ahead may be required but at least the ratios work and all I have to do is to plan a front shift in the best spot possible on the trail when its needed
@dresnick12
@dresnick12 2 месяца назад
MTB. When I used tubes I got punctures almost every other ride, mainly from thorns. I Switched to tubeless about 6 years ago and never got a single puncture ever since. I did got a single (!) loss of air by hitting a rock that pushed the bid away from the rim, and all I had to do was to reinflate in the field. I am talking about 6 years!!! Inner tubes are a nightmare if you have sharp objects in your area. Can't comment on road bike.
@jcvdphoenix1987
@jcvdphoenix1987 5 месяцев назад
You just have to check your tires pressure ! And tubless system is an automatic repair ! I loose more time to change tubes and pump it by hands or repair it because also it depends on the quality of your tubes , for me it's definitely more pro ! Use new tires and pump it at the right pressure with tubless system it will make you more confortable 😉
@TheSirHoschi
@TheSirHoschi Год назад
I got back from vacation in Tuscany yesterday where I did a few laps on my trike. In the left frontwheel stuck 13 thorns, in the right 4. I have not count the thorns on the backwheel. I think, Tubeless saved the fun for me.
@richardpickering2452
@richardpickering2452 11 месяцев назад
Tubes with pipe insulation and Stans, job done.
@Sozzled39
@Sozzled39 Год назад
If you ding your rim on a tubed tyre, it will more than likely pinch flat the inner tube too. I run tubeless on all my MTB and road bikes, never had any trouble at all.
@bacala0
@bacala0 Год назад
The video all tubeless hatin' old-farts have been waiting for - well done GMBN!!! lol
@DownTheHill3
@DownTheHill3 Год назад
went tubeless in 2016, IVE NEVER had a flat, and life has been bliss. to each his own, but to say dont go tubeless as the title states, is reckless and irresponsible 🤣
@Apple_Beshy
@Apple_Beshy Год назад
reckless? care to elaborate with that?
@rogerdodger1790
@rogerdodger1790 Год назад
Yeah I agree, tubeless since 2018 and never had a single issue
@kostello2011
@kostello2011 Год назад
Cushcore + tubeless = no problems
@DavidMaruca_
@DavidMaruca_ Год назад
Tubeless since 2019, no flats yet 2016-2019 I had almost a dozen flats due to thorns.
@zubertish
@zubertish Год назад
Love it. Went tubed or 'rigid' as some tire manuf's call it and never looked back. Besides, ever see a bike with sealant bosses? Nuff said.
@Danstheman1357
@Danstheman1357 Год назад
I do tubeless in my enduro bike and cushcore, my trail bike I just do tubes, over a year no issues running tubes, kinda like I don’t have to think about it drying up
@mtibiza2
@mtibiza2 Год назад
I’ve not run tubeless but interested to know what the environmental impact is of leaking sealant on a trail? Is the sealant biodegradable? Edible? I’ve heard of people adding glitter to help it seal better… doesn’t sound very friendly to the beautiful places we ride.
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