I think you guys fail to forget that these influencers are humans too... There's always someone "better" than you, even if you're a rich influencer. The same guys are probably looking at other even richer and even more "alpha" men than themselves and getting the negative effects. Nobody wins in social media. Everyone just loses and feels jealous of one another.
Passivity is a motivation/symptom of depression. Some internet content gives you the idea of doing something useful but it will only be useful when you put it at pratice. Without the pratice you become passive, depressed and with low T
my testosteron is very high yet I have quite severe social anxiety so this link does not apply to me. Then again I am on the autism spectrum so for me social anxiety is more the result of "being afraid to overstimulate" than feeling "less dominant". Interesting topic!
imagine what a horse feels with all that testosterone running through his body, I ride a young horse the other day and the horse saw older horse running and my horse saw that and he start running fast and the horse trainer told me that when a horse see other horses running, their testosterone shot to the roof causes the horse to emulate other horse running
My dog does similar - acts like a pansy when it’s raining and won’t go out. Another dog walks by and he’s all “what rain?” Starts jumping around in the rain. Dogs’ll totally flex in front of other dogs, LOL.
I don’t give a damn about famous people and Instagram is just to post cool stuff and check on friends, and i check it about once a month and sometimes less often. But sometimes i notice myself getting all depressed over just one or two photos of acquaintances doing crazy things in amazing places- well known feeling, especially in these latest two generations, but I’m glad to hear some affirmation that I’m right to avoid it and to not care about famous people
I quit social media quite a long while ago, still not getting any better however. Don’t contact new people aside from work either. Just mindless escapism of other forms.
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You should make a recap video on how to improve overall health (physical and mental). I don't care how long it would be, I would watch the whole thing.
Much like money its a social construct but the question really comes down to your work within the group you're in. You cannot really raise your status with total strangers unless you get on instagram too and work hard within it. So you have to hold constant someone's status in the real world then adjust. So it would come down to subscribers versus subscriptions. RU-vid told me I was locked out of more subscriptions unless I got subscribers which given I don't produce content 🤷
Peter sapolsky says that testosterone and hierarchy is not related. The more you have testo, the most aggressive you will be in order to keep your actual place in the hierarchy. But you will still obey to those who are higher
To me it is a tool. You and only you make the outcome. You can use it to better yourself or to worsen yourself. The information is being presented on your feed, it is up to you on how you perceive and consider that information. I literally gather inspirations, take notes from what other create so I can create my own new content. I am never badly influenced by someone else's success. I'm actually inspired. I reflect and understand what my next move is. I know there is a primal need for hierarchy like the video suggest, but it takes so little effort to go beyond that and use it as a tool. I find it very weird that twitter is 2nd in positive output as to me it is an echo chamber of narrowed opinions. There is no creativity or novelty, only spewing your opinion. As Instagram is curated, polished, worked content that can really inspire millions.
@@r-type4945 I care about those I interact with in reality, and only those close to me. Not fake online personas people develop. Not caring for comparison, but out of care for the person, and our relationship. I do of course compare myself to them still, but not in a pathologic way. Perhaps I have more wins than losses, so it's not a big deal to me? But the comparisons I make, cause me no stress.
@@r-type4945 No, nobody can prove that. We can train ourselves to not care about other people. We are the product of our environment and experience! That's why meditation is so useful tool!
idk if creating a positive feedback loop where you feel great for relating to misery is the best idea. but i get it, it's just a coping mechanism, i'd suggest at least just trying to make sure it doesn't end up being how u live ur whole life; cuz my guess is that it's extremely easy to live ur whole life like that.
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I get it, the key to success is: Make money, Buy testosterone, Make more money, Buy more testosterone . . . And eventually become Arnold Schwarzenegger
@@Akileshg1 actually, if you get your body addicted to external testosterone and than suddenly stop taking it, your natural levels will be very low, in that moment man boobs can appear. If you use it the right way, it's completely safe
I quit social media a little over a year ago and I've never felt better, working out every day getting straight A's in college. It's definitely worth a try.
TheShubLub it’s not much different, companies like Facebook and IG hire social engineers to find ways to make their platforms release as much dopamine as possible when you get on it
@@jonathanchilds930 i'm addicted to youtube there are some informative channels but always drifts toward entertainment, and waste my time how can i stop this?
@c v wish i was that easy but i'm trying unsubscribing to all the channels that are distracting, mark videos as not interested in my feed and will try to remember not to get distracted hopefully it will help
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Why should you even care that much about your testosterone? I really don't understand. If it is too low, go to the doctor, if it is too high, go to the doctor. But if you care about your masculinity that much then maybe you should go to the doctor too, just not your usual one.
Having too low of testosterone makes a person physically weak, muscles shrink. In addition they jump to emotional stress quicker without any reason. Having high testosterone is a birthright for every male on Earth.
The voyeurism aspect of it really messes with your brain’s balance. Porn addiction is the reason for so many mental health problems. I implore everyone to do their research to understand it’s effects. From credible sources and do not succumb to confirmation bias (looking only for things that support your view).
@shannon dove that’s the thing, that’s WHY you can’t get a woman. Back in the day a man had to work hard to even see a naked woman (talking to a woman, taking her out on dates, proving yourself to be a man, showing the many products of your success, etc) where as these days men get it for free at the click of their fingers. See what I’m saying? If you’re fat you’d work out to attract women, if you’re broke you’d study and/or get a well paying job to attract a wife, etc. It’s way too easy nowadays since you don’t have to work on yourself to see a woman naked let alone a woman having sex (you still aren’t the one having sex so you lose every time). That’s one of the reasons why men have testosterone, it’s motivation to better yourself to attract a mate. Men are amazing as is but especially when they utilise their testosterone, it’s literally the backbone to every society and what has helped build the ancient and modern world
and give yourself some short term goals that you can accoplish fairly quickly which will increase your self worth and testosterone - repeat repeat etc.
Summary Testosterone (T) makes you more: • Confident * In social groups * When approaching strangers * When approaching women * With eye contact • More muscle, less fat, stronger bones • Happier, less depressed • More motivated, successful T is self reinforcing: • More T leads to more T • Lower T leads to lower T Things which influence your T level: Increase • Being high in the hierarchy, prestige • Talking to women • Exercising • Winning competition, game • Seeing your team win • Social win Decrease • Being low in the hierarchy • Instagram: Looking at people with higher status/wealth/looks lowers your testosterone. You seel low in the hierarchy and subordinate • Losing • Social defeat • Being bullied
None of which that actually states the real reason why men are suffering from low T. 1. Tap water, shower and drinking water 2. Plastic containers 3. Polyester based clothing 4. See oils. 5. Lack of sun 6. Lack of exercise 7. Lack of proper sleep 8. Being around technology too much 9. Catering to woman's wants and desires 10. Alcohol 11. Junk food 12. Not eating our species specific diet (we are carnivores) 13. Living too comfortably 14. Not being stoic as in your lifestyle 15. Not facing your inner struggles and addressing them to reduce stress List goes on and on. There are 15 things you can work on right now to help your hormone levels.
@@austinmeredith6647 Thank you for this , this was a video stating only the problems without answers if not for this comment. And I would like to add to this the dramatic presentation may not do justice to how stable or tolerant T really is , this cycle is not that fragile .
@@pai64 Trick your mind and then it will. "You're the only one who can provide this money to her, you're her provider and dominator and she needs this from you, not you from her!" boom - brain bypassed - as long as you can actually convince yourself of things and cast the doubt outside of your mind instead of trying to shrink it and hide it at the back of your mind where you don't look, can cause the big spike. I have a theory that 'confidence' is really just the casting away of doubt, so whenever an opportunity to confront doubt arises and you win and then feel that confidence boost that's actually your testosterone spiking.
soo true, sooooo goddamn true. I try to always remind myself of exactly this. whenever I'm watching too many vlogs on youtube especially, I tell my self "why not go out and do something instead of watching somebody else doing something?". it's okey when it's done for entertainment purposes. but when watching vids/checking IG becomes a distraction from your life, well, you gotta do something about it.
@vawies watching a sports team you are affiliated with succeed can raise testosterone. Its different from simply watching a person flaunt their success.
@@gabbar51ngh most men have burned out dopamine receptor, sadly mostly young men, I am struggling for a lot of time myself but at least I realize the damage, try exercise(lifting). it's even harder for a man of solitude like myself. But I try to cope with finding new sounds.
I always wondered why would someone watch a sport the don't practice, and if they like watching a particular sport why won't they start to practice it, sometimes it drives me crazy trying to understand that
@@juanlastra3502 Because seeing professional athlete doing things that are hard for common people is simply mesmerizing and fun to watch, like dunking in basketball for example. That's one of the reason.
I don't have a job, girlfriend or social status. When compared with others I'm at the bottom of the social hierarchy. But I am probably happier than people you may see on Instagram. Why? It's because my happiness and well-being does not depend on outside phenomena.
@Dan M I think it's a Buddhist concept indeed. This is exactly what those Buddhist meditations have taught me: happiness coming from the inside out, and not the other way around. Hierarchy and status are just concepts anyway, and both come with their own dependencies. Dependency is what creates sorrow and Buddhists know this.
Do click baity titles lower your testosterone? Does reading studies about raising your testosterone lower your testosterone? Does looking at testosterone increase your testosterone? Does Testosterone stoss your terone? Testosterone testerone testosterone? Yes testosterone.
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Something I feel is important to add to the discussion is that acute changes in testosterone are normal, and micromanaging these is not only unlikely to lead to positive outcomes, but also complicate life needlessly. Heavy squatting and other compound lifts, for example, has been shown to produce a great spike in testosterone. This has led to a lot of ineffective advice being given; always include heavy compounds to produce a test spike and maximize anabolism. There is no evidence that this actually works, and you wouldn't expect it to if you understand that what matters for anabolism is the area under the curve over time.
You kind of contradict yourself. You first say heavy squatting and compound lifts have been shown to spike testosterone levels. And then say this is inaffective advice??
@@ImStrangeThing I believe Jordan Peterson talked about it during one of his lectures. The wording he used was "elevated female hormones" estrogen is primarily a female hormone so perhaps I'm reading too into it.
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@@JW0121 don't think so. It's not offered as an unprompted, gratuitous comment. It's in direct respons to WIL comment. The folks whose lives revolve around IG have no idea how many people aren't interested. Ditto twatter
A lot of my low testosterone and anxiety comes from my middle school days where I was like the last person to hit puberty, automatically putting me at the bottom of the social hierarchy for years, at the time I just accepted I was a little kid and all the girls though I was “cute” and that has affected me ever since.
I was bullied because my eye sockets are slightly asymmetric, which makes it look as if my eyes were cross-eyed at times, despite it being tested not to be the case. Now whenever I get complimented, I can never take it seriously, in fact, I always feel like I'm being made fun of. Additionally, I'm a very anxious person, social interaction is hard and I can only interact with women from a professional or friendly POV, which deepens my feelings of inadequacy and subordination. That said, I'm physically fit, I'm considered smart by everyone around me and I guess that by most's standards, I'm successful. Going to try to be more dominant from today onwards. Gotta fake it till you make it, some would say.
Dunbars number really isn’t a reliable metric for people we assert as our dominance hierarchy. Firstly it was achieved with frankly dishonest logarithmic scales mapping the number of identifications apes have in their brain and adjusting for human brain size(which we have yet to assert is logically consistent). Bees, birds and many other animals travel in far larger groups with far smaller brains. Secondly, as you outlined, the mean groupings were 150, meaning a considerable amount of people don’t fall anywhere close to this metric. Weddings are attended only by people you like, so they’re not even a similar to a dominance hierarchy of people as people you don’t like aren’t included. Lastly, it’s easy to take a number like 150 and retroactively assert a bunch of arbitrary statistics that retroactively support this view, but consider the clear counter example the fact most people follow far more than 200 people on Instagram. Simply read Dunbar’s papers. His statistics are based on weak assumptions about the brain. His correlations are contrived. Neurology is new field. Many findings are headline grabbing yes, but they are not being replicated as easily.
I got addicted to Twitch for a few weeks during the pandemic. And then it struck me that it is nonsense. I actually feel really sorry for people who spectate there everyday.
@@benjamin2667 Get off that. You're missing out on life. Get a different passion, hobby, craft, or study something. You literally do not get anything out of watching streams other than shallow entertainment.
I found glaring problems with this one... It is a correlation, not a causation for the higher status males to have higher testosterone levels. I see no evidence presented here to PROVE anything was directly causing anything else. And the argument could easily be made that BECAUSE they had higher levels of test, is why they achieved the higher status, and not the other way around. Get it ~ It surprised me that this wasn't even mentioned. Additionally, using the same logic, it's perhaps the men with low testosterone are the ones that prefer to use Instagram, instead of the argument made here that it actually causes it. The fact is, we don't yet know either way.
You make an excellent point, except we do have evidence that it is causation. Take a look at the body of literature on "winner-loser effects". In animal models we can manipulate the outcomes of winning/losing fights by rigging the outcome of fights. For example we can pair a randomly selected male with a really crappy male that we know will likely lose in order to experimentally generate winners. With these methods, we still see winners experience a "winner effect" that translates into boosts in testosterone, increase in social status, higher odds of winning another fight, and higher success in obtaining mates.
@aititnas anybody who knows basic biology and psychology would know that you can’t claim anything as ‘evident’ or ‘intuitive’ without actual evidence. The whole ‘correlation =/= causation’ thing is practically a core fundamental of science. Just because something intuitively makes sense doesn’t mean you can draw conclusions
There are plenty of examples of people with hypogonadism or clinically low test levels that came up in bloodworks that got TRT and the boost in testosterone directly translated to more confidence and success in general. CEOs of companies who are woman also have higher than average testosterone levels, there's plenty to look at that shows this effect to be real, even through observations and testing of animals in the wild and seeing testosterone levels before and after fights etc. When he have a debate/confrontation with someone even just an ideological fight of wits if you feel you came out on top you will get a testosterone spike.
If testosterone is so directly linked to social dominance, why does it reduce due to marriage and fatherhood? Does having a family make you instantly less dominant? The relation between testosterone and dominance should be more complicated to account for this.
That’s not it at all. You have less testosterone because you’ve settled down and can enjoy meaningful relationships you’ve tried so hard to acquire (because of the testosterone). Take a look at the hormones that increase after getting married and having a baby.
Testosterone also falls with age (peak for man is around 18-26 years old, then it slowly falls). I think it is most possibly a correlation not causation that married man with children would have lower testosterone.
Testosterone makes you seek a mate. When you find one, it drops to a level where the seeking behavior is more in the background and other hormones like vasopressin rise to ensure that you keep bonding with that mate to keep raising high-quality offspring, plus those hormones raise your life expectancy. Some of those hormones actually make you more dominant, but in a much more considerate and family-oriented way than the ego-dominance of testosterone. An unhappy or incompatible bond can reduce those hormones, causing depression and health problems due to the low level of all hormones. That is for the majority of people, but not for some. For some their testosterone level never drops and they usually don't produce offspring in the modern world due to making many shallow bonds due to the seeking behavior not weakening or produce low quality offspring (single mothers/serial cheating problems leading to parental fighting and secrecy leading to disconnection between family members) but probably higher quantity of offspring. Those are also the people the majority of non-bonded (and unhappily bonded) people compare themselves to because they seem to have a much better chance at finding more high-quality mates. Basically, your body already has a reproductive strategy, be it quality or whatever.
It IS more complicated. The research suggests that men with lower T are more likely to be and stay married to begin with. This is all about investment tradeoffs and life history theory. Basically you either invest in reproduction or longevity. You either have a fast life strategy: having lots of sex, spreading your seed, earlier death, displays of aggression, competing for dominance and status, and high T. OR you have a slow life strategy: low T, less dominance, longer lifespan, more monogamous and a focus on investing resources into one relationship. This is why the act of committing in a relationship lowers T, because high T is conducive to fast life strategies and polygamous reproduction. Men who ARE married and have higher T don't stay monogamously married for long..
A thought i had while watching this was that we need to stop demonizing masculine traits (Especially in our youth). Sure Testosterone can make men territorial, aggressive, or violent but it also brings out leadership, drive, and charisma.
It seems What I've Learned planned this video backwards: he let his low-testosterone hypothesis inform his research, setting the stage for yet another lesson in confirmation bias, much like many of his other videos about heart disease, cholesterol and diet. No other viewpoints are considered, only his, making for an unconvincing video. This video makes massive leaps of faith and is a gross oversimplification of a variety of topics whose complexity has not been given any respect. The author is trying to directly link mental health, depression, mood, status, hierarchies, anxiety, visual feedback, human interaction to testosterone levels, when the evidence for a causal relationship or even a correlation is contradictory, scarce and unreliable, even if it may weakly point in a certain direction. For example, aromatase inhibitors, as well as SERMs and SARMs significantly raise testosterone, but not a single positive health outcome has been proven in men in terms of mental health and muscle mass. It would also help to include all citations in the video description.
Came here searching for a voice of reason and was amazed at how few there were. This video deserves its own 1 hour long well-researched well-discussed dissection, it's incredible how it passes as scientific (seeing the likes/dislikes bar) when it's highly ideological and justifies the current hierarchy while informing men they are "alfa" or "beta" with fancier terms. It would make for an interesting video for sure
I don't know about that... To me it seemed that he mainly talked about T and then later I the video conjunctured about how Instagram might be problematic in terms of raising T levels. So calm down.
This is the recipe for how to be successful on youtube lol. Btw. Watching a video to the end, liking or disliking (same value to algo), and commenting tells RU-vid to recommend this video to others.
I'm getting testosterone injections weekly and can confirm if you really have low testosterone and manage to increase testosterone by medication or changes to lifestyle/diet will greatly help reducing social anxiety.
usually i think your channel is pretty interesting but this is echoing the whole soy scare for me. can you please start listing your sources and citations?
Tbh that's what I feared from the title when I first saw it. They're not listed like in a nice footnotes section (Which would be pretty helpful tbh), but at least the screenshots of the papers and stuff are there. Oof that JBP clip though.
@@YagrumBagarn firstly im a woman and secondly soy being feminizing is an alt right conspiracy theroy not based in reality. look at like, idk the hbomberguy videos or whatever. or keep yourself trapped in 2016 that works for me
I am a woman and have higher testosterone than even some men haha. Lower voice, smaller chest, love to win and compete, and stronger faster muscles. This makes so much sense now. That's why I attract men who are more on the feminine side, or have lower testosterone.
WIL, I know you can't mention "the thing that's happening" without being demonetized, but I'm curious what your thoughts are on how massive widespread social isolation effects this. I posted another longer comment with my own personal experience.
does the whole testosterone correlation thing in women mean they also have "dominance hierarchies" though? considering we are not as competitive, is it more about acceptance and integrating than winning and dominating? i wish someone focused on social anxiety in women so i can figure out wtf is up honestly
well idk what your experiences are with women but yes, men have to win women over while women are won over. so in terms of that successes women are not as competitive, and they are more agreeable. they certainly still compete socially but on terms of desirability mostly which is kinda passive. so it is definitively different type of competitiveness and i dont think (i don't know?) if you can apply dominance hierarchy theory for women. also obviously testosterone is the dominant hormone in men and in women it's estrogen so. that must make a difference, i think.
@@ezodragon Oh, you were saying it specifically applying it to romance; I was thinking more about women (specially in formative years) being a lot more socially competitive with each other.
@@driveasandwich6734 well my social anxiety is not exactly related to romance but i am past highschool age and that social dynamic is not applicable anymore. if testosterone is related to the general mental wellbeing for men, i was wondering how female hormones affect women's mental health differently (and through which types of activities you can control that). i did mention romance, but mostly because that is what the dominance hierarchy is based around, isn't it?
I think it all goes down to how we let external things like social media affect our lives. As Marcus Aurelius said in Meditations: "You have power over your mind - not outside events. Realize this, and you will find strength."
One of the most interesting videos I've seen in a while. The workings of hormones is such an abstract concept to me, and I love how you present the connection between social hierarchy and testosterone. Thanks for the video!
I don't think you get this enough, so I just want to thank you for making these videos. I learn a lot and actually use them in my own life to make it better.
I always find this sort of knowledge fairly depressing. My libido is absolutely broken from post finasteride syndrome, has been for over 6 years, so talking to women is always littered with doubt because I fear I could be a massive dissapointment to her. I still lift, challenge my self, get competitive but the lack of lust in my life has catapulted me into mediocrity.
i think it depends on who you follow ,i only follow people that inspire me (and some meme pages:D ) .. Mcgregor said something like : Some people will look at the things you do and get inspired others will shell up and critique and be negative towards about it, but one thing is for sure people who take inspiration will also one day experience that life ,this is human nature some people go one way some people go the other way..
I thought men's status rises with age. Why then does testosterone drop as men age. Is that still just a given, but their levels should be compared to men of similar age?
A man’s status (and thus attractiveness) goes up with age yes, but status isn’t the only variable that effects testosterone. This video refers to very short term fluctuations of testosterone, not long term baseline levels (which matter more).
It's fair to assume Porn has the same effect on the brain considering you're looking at people having sex with lots of women you feel you don't have a chance with.
