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It's about the conflict that goes on since 2014 when Russia annexed Crimea and fueled the separatist movement in eastern Ukraine. Jinjer is from Horlivka, a city within the occupied Donetsk Oblast in the Donbass region. When the war came to them they decided to flee their homes, in order to continue to make music and were basically on tour ever since, just to make ends meet. Pretty sure the tea party scene is heavily inspired by Alice in Wonderland.
Unfortunately, but understandably, not many people in the west realise that the current conflict is basically a continuation of the Russian invasion in 2014 when they annexed Crimea. After that two regions in the east (around the major cities of Donetsk and Luhansk) were under the control of separatists fully backed and and supplied by Russia (as well as recognised as indepent countries by Russia) and there has been a active (though low intensity) war in that area ever since then (obviously these days the war is anything but low intensity). The pre-text Russia started for this full on war was to protect those two areas from ukraine to protect them from Ukrainian ' nazi's' (as with all Russian propaganda there's a small kernel of truth in that, though it has been twisted beyond anything resembling the truth, I am not going to explain here, ' cause it's complex and would require a full essay and this post is long enough as it is, feel free to dm me if you are interested in that kinda thing). Tati, Roman and Eugene are from that area (A city called Gorlovka or Horlivka, spelling varies in the Latin alphabet) and in 2014 they had to choose to flee their homes and continue there music careers or staying. They fled, first to Lviv, later relocating to Kyiv. Tatiana wrote the lyrics from a child's perspective watching war roll into their homes one day. In my opinion it's one of the most potent modern anti-war songs out there. It focuses on those who suffer, the civilian population, it's not about the rights or wrongs of the war, not political in that sense, but sharing the sheer horror it is forn an innocent civilian getting caught up in it ( It is political in that sense). And unfortunately this song is needed now more than ever.
The war activities since 2014 to 2022 had different intensity. In 2014 and 2015 intensity was pretty high as well as at some other periods. In 2019-2020 it was quite low. In overall according to United Nations statistics since 2014 to 2021 there were up to 15000 death casualties, including approx 3400 civilians. By the way UN counted almost the same civilian casualties since Fabruary 2022.
Great reaction! Sorry if it bummed you out, but I love it because of how impactful and real it is. From what I know I believe this song is inspired from the 2014 invasion of Crimea that destroyed Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine...Jinjer's home town. On top of all that is how well thought out this video is and how it ties in to the lyrics so well. From the wrecked buildings to the knocked out communications to the chaff from an airfighter which actually does resemble an angel when deployed. The changeup to a scene of Tatiana dressed as a little girl playing tea party with her dolls (straw stuffed burlap) unaware of what's about to happen (yet portrayed in a purposely creepy way) then showing the aftermath and the explosion of nearly incomprehensible rage to close the song. This song has been in my Jinjer top 5 pretty much from first listen a year ago and this video as #1.
Donetsk was not destroyed, it is still not destroyed and almost unscathed. Because it was occupied by Russian troops. But the suburbs of Donetsk, where the Ukrainian troops were stationed, were completely destroyed. (Peski, Airport, etc.). Because the Ukrainian army doesn't shoot at its cities.
Isolated bodies in a boudoir of helplessness. A bullet is an early bird, a midnight owl. Our beds are cold, As cold as basement floor. This house is not our shelter anymore. Anymore. Home is not a building, Home is liberty. A place where memories live In prosperity and peace. I came back home so I want my home back, Don't you leave us homeless!
They wrote this song about the fighting that broke out in 2014 when russia took over Crimea. There was alot of fighting then in eastern Ukraine where Eugene, Roman and Tatiana are from. russian seperatists have continued fighting in eastern Ukraine since 2014. When they recorded this song they had no idea that what is going on now would be going on.
I have shed a tear or two listening to this song, because it was, and still is a very heartfelt, and powerful message from the band. In 2014 Russia took over Jinjer's home region, and Tatiana, and the guys were forced to flee to Kiev , so this song was written about that horrible experience.
God I love this song! So heavy, sonically and emotionally. Easily one of their best songs without a doubt. I believe they wrote it after 2014 when their home town was attacked. I’m sure that’s it but dont quote me lol.
They come from the Donbas and there is a war between the Ukrainian army and Russian mercenaries with separatists since 2014. Over 10,000 dead so far. All 4 had to flee from there.
As everybody else write Jinjer is actually from East Ukrain. There have been war there since 2014 beetween Pro Russians and Ukrain. Jinjer had to move away like many other Ukrainian not at all Pro Russians. Russia also took Krimea ( crimea ) to secure bases in the Black Sea in 2014. 🥺
The part with the animal-like scarecrows...if you look carefully you will see eyes moving around in them. From what I have heard, it was actually the guys in the band in those outfits.
Even though this was written about the chronic fighting with Russian-backed separatists in their homeland of the Donetsk region in Eastern Ukraine, the meaning and impact of the lyrics and visuals obviously has exponentially increased since Putin's brutal and illegal all-out invasion of the country. I was an emotional wreck the first time I saw this video. #FUPutin Slava Ukraine!!! 💛💙
Metallica - One is pretty close in context...but none of them have actually been in the midst of war like the members of Jinjer....Lars was going to be a tennis player before he joined James and formed Metallica
This is about when the Russians invaded Eastern Ukraine in 2014 and made the band refugees. The only way they could earn money for food and stuff was to stick together as a band and that's why they never gave up. And why Tatiana wanted her Home Back. And now the Russians want the whole country.
There has been a civil war ongoing in Donbass since 2014. They had to flee the region for western Ukraine Lviv, then Kiev. I am not sure if any of them have had the opportunity to see their relatives since then. There is a song called Retrospection talking about the love their parents gave them during their childhood and how they feel homesick now.
This song is about a similar situation in 2014 but nowhere near as bad as the current conflict which involved their home in Eastern Ukraine when Russia took the territory of Crimea from Ukraine. The same areas are now embroiled in the current war. The band is from the Donensk area which is where the heaviest fighting is in the current war.
Also there is some worry among fans that this pause they are on can't go on forever. Tatiana and her husband Alex have to eat after all and nobody knows when this ends. Whether that means she goes off to do another project and comes back or just leaves the band nobody knows. There is no way to know how long this will go on.
@@coder4liberty The other side of this is Tatiana used to have a lot going on musically until the 2014 invasion when they had to leave home and throw everything into the success of Jinjer. Jinjer was band #8 for her and she had a side project latin band after joining Jinjer. So it would probably be good for her to do some kind of side project and Alex just quit Suicide Silence to work on other things. And he's a multi instrumentalist at least drummer and guitar player. Also Eugene posted a video clip playing his bass and the caption suggested a title or lyric like "I'm happy to disappoint you when I don't fall down." Which seems applicable to the war where most including apparently Putin assumed it would be over in days.
People always get blown away with the talent of the band and Tatiana's vocals but what often gets overlooked is just how good Tatiana's lyrics are. This song is their first refugee experience imagined through the eyes of an innocent child. Much of Jinjer's work hit themes most other bands don't explore. I recommend reacting to " No hoard of Value" lyric video
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i kno this song/video was done a few yrs ago, but the imagery is insane considering whats going on over there now. almost like they saw the future. either way, hope they stay safe & we can jam to them once again 🙏🇺🇦🙏🇺🇦
....hard to really focus on the instruments in this one....but when you do...holy shit....about the most proggy complicated stuff ive heard from them...or ever for that matter...and im old....lol....love this band......thank you......peace....
what I can say with certainty is that I was an American rightwinger who believed wholeheartedly in the invasion of Iraq. Yes WMDs was phony but even then the reasons for the invasion were far more complex than "war for oil." But none of that remotely justifies the suffering America's invasion inflicted upon the people of Iraq. None of that justifies how our invasion destabilized the region. Killing people for political ends is objectively evil. Nothing ever justifies an elective war of aggression on the soil of another nation. In supporting America's war, I was embracing evil. Anyone who supports a war against the land or people of another nation is embracing evil. At the same time defense is vital because if nations fail to defend their land and people, evildoers will be encouraged to commit the evil of elective war.
There won't be any new stuff for a while, since Tati is in the U.S. but the rest of the band is in Ukraine. Let's pray they stay safe. Home Back is certainly pertinent to the current situation, but this is hardly the first time that country has known war.
A great follow up to this would be Jinjer - Retrospection. The official music video would give you a good feel of the song meaning. Do a double with the Live in Melbourne performance and you will be blown away.
There is a channel on RU-vid that shows home movies of Jinjer from way way back around the time this was inspired and it shows their rehearsal space/home riddled with bullets , Tatiana has said in interviews there was a time when all they had to eat was their fingernails, they ate barley for food and their home town was under siege so they fled west
Loving the Jinjer journey y’all are on. I noticed you haven’t reacted to any of their debut EP tracks such as Scissors, Until the End, Exposed as a Liar. It would be great to see what y’all think of their early stuff. Personally their early stuff is my favorite.
I believe the "burlap bag scene" illustrates the dogs of war and, the rabbit the innocent civilians trapped in the midst of the conflict. *Note the tag on the rabbit's ear... It seems to be indicative of the way the civilians are monitored and tracked.
There is also an old fable about a dog and a rabbit that lives together in a forest and a tiger intrudes their area. The rabbit sees him, gets scared and goes to the dog to tell him that the tiger is around. The scared rabbit asks the brave dog to teach him a trick to escape the tiger, but the dog dismisses the rabbit, deeming him too stupid to learn the trick. The rabbit then tells the dog, "use your trick and I'll use mine to escape and when the tiger leaves we will meet again" - the tiger comes and the dog runs away, but gets chased and killed by the tiger. The rabbit runs down a rabbit hole and hides until the tiger is gone. It's a fable about sharing and communication with loved ones in times of uncertainty or danger
You are into something about the implications of government and it all being "controlled" by something outside of the room. The hands that emerge from the dark to swarm the home and take it from the people living there (the end scene with the hands taking the home away and into the dark)
What a find just found your channel, well you sold me literally all my most loved music across the board we're like minded for sure . As for Jinjer I was lucky enough to see them twice before shit hit the fan . I can't describe how good they are phenomenal. Ok is about 2014 Donbas Chimera war ,horrible Tatiana is a fukin poet with her lyrics just like Neil Pearrt was I love good lyrics. Your a lucky man to have su h a beautiful wife love the makeup tutorial and nose ring
Yes it is true.They had to flee there home town Donetsk in Eastern Ukraine because of the invasion.They actually went thru what was shown in the video.I understand that the male members went back to Ukraine to help in the war effort. Tatiana is now living in southern California presently.
I don't think anyone can know everything about this conflict right now. Each side has its own beliefs and all sweeps aside other people's arguments. Everyone chose their TV, their blogger, their narrow experience situation ... and then broadcasts it to everyone as a fact of truth. Facts are something that we can know for sure and analyze, but get into other people's heads and know exactly what they are up to ... this is hardly possible, given the scale and general aggression it can be said for sure that global human forces are behind this, and not just one or two people. Personally, I hate all the politicians of today, as none of them could prevent this. and more... if you discover any side of the mood not for the world ... and there is not even a desire to seek peace ... everything is only when you find words about honor, peace and everything ... but in reality ...some set them on fire and bring weapons by plane and say kill them all! Others are reluctant to even try to find convenient solutions for stalking with neighbors. Thirds are too stubborn and too unsophisticated to manage a large country with great difficulties in our time, especially when they play against it on a large scale. Think about it, two countries that once lived in the same country speak almost the same language, have a common culture, common business, and so on ... suddenly become enemies. How is this possible ? I think it’s obvious that this is not the choice of people, it doesn’t support this situation ... not in one direction, not in the other ... But someone really needs it, and in each side they give a machine gun and say go there your enemy... The most terrible and stupid thing is that after so much time it is slowly becoming the choice of ordinary people ... It turns out that the one who conceived this copes well with this ... and how does he live in the world? you can also choose your truth in this... where you will be told who to love and who to hate. peace, love and harmony ps/ if you are interested check it out. parsing another jinjer clip. It's still the same situation, but within society in industrial production. Feelings of ordinary people, and people who want from ordinary people. after watching the original clip of jinjer discloser check Jinjer Disclosure! official video context / song background analysis / overview and Jinjer on Soviet Union (featuring Eugene and Tatiana)
It might be all you saying is true, but its Russian troops attacked Ukraine! Love peace and harmony will come as soon as Russian soldiers leave Ukraine! All world will help to achieve that
@@viktorsgluskovs4041 if you want to look at the situation from the side of parts history of... your right... and if you say, look at the situation from the point of view of each side to each side, there may be peace if... And if everyone really wants peace, then you need to sit down to talk right now and resolve this issue, and not wait for a better negotiating situation for any of the parties.
@@jersey8261its hard to talk with someone who bomb you house and says Ukraine should stop resisting and will be peace! how about stop bombing civilians leave Ukraine and than talk or that`s not an option? its like murderer say don't resist lets talk
@@viktorsgluskovs4041 8 years was exactly the opposite. there was no desire to communicate and negotiate, only statements that we will do what we want, and this will not be your business. We are not solving anything here.. and we must understand that such a household argument is not very suitable for politics... the further everything goes, the more stupid things will happen to everyone.. people are strange creatures.
@@jersey8261Watch less Russian propaganda tv.... how much people died in Ukraine before Russian aggression started in 2014? How about MH17? 141 country in UN condemn Russia aggression 5 voted against 1 of those 5 was Russia What Russian troops do now in Ukraine? BTW First Russian soldier to go on trial in Ukraine for war crimes! 1 by 1 will be all punished for crimes what they do! GOD bless America for what they do to support Ukraine!
The Donbas is the name of the thin region along the east of Ukraine. In 2014, Ukraine elected a president who was friendly with Russia. The people living in the Donbas liked this, because most of them speak Russian and have relatives living in Russia. Many are also ethnic Jews. However, people in the western part of Ukraine hated that a pro Russian president had been elected. These are the descendants of the people who had allied themselves with Nazi Germany during Hitler's invasion of Russia. There are still actual, literal Nazis living there and embedded within their military. Still, everything would have settled down had the United States not gotten involved. Of course, the US effin everything up again. Certain people in Washington did not fancy to Ukraine electing a pro Russian president, so senators Lindsey Graham and John McCain flew over there and met with leaders in western Ukraine. They promised weapons and money to these Ukrainians in return for carrying out a coup to oust the new president. In 2015, with financial backing from Western Europe and the US, western Ukraine and their Nazi allies invaded the Donbas and drove out the newly elected president. Folks in the Donbas did not cotton to this, and so civil war erupted. Meanwhile, Russia came down to have a looky see. Western Ukraine forces retreated back into their territory, but for the next seven years they committed themselves to a campaign of terrorism. They routinely shell buildings in the Donbas indescriminantly, killing civilians and terrifying everyone. Finally, Russia had enough and sent 100,000 troops into Ukraine. And that's where the situation finds itself today. Tatiana is from the Donbas region. She and Eugene got into some trouble a few years ago after appearing on a Ukrainian podcast show. Tatiana and Eugene were accused of being sympathetic to Russia, because their native tongue is Russian and because they admitted to having a good childhood back when the Soviets were still in power. This is what their song "Disclosure" is about. It's Tatiana's response to that podcast host.
"The moral arc of the universe is long but it bends toward justice." Any political goal can be worked toward with patience and non-violence. There is never an excuse for killing people for political goals. Killing people for political goals is always evil. Political killing is also always counterproductive because it is unjust and drives the moral arc of the universe against you. I say that as one who supported my own nations evil and learned the hard way to my shame that I was guilty of evil for doing so. No excuse. Never again.
