WIKI GUIDES: Phosani's Nightmare (OSRS)

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For long time people have been asking me "What is good at XYZ?" and I can't tell them to just look at the Wiki for advice because it is SO bad and even the Gear Discords don't keep up with content and new meta changes quickly. Just peaking at what the Wiki currently had for a couple bosses I realized how HORRIBLE they are and in a funny way. I decided to do a little mini series with me completing the bosses the way the wiki "thinks" it should be completed with.
With the new tool Gearscape.net I think the wiki is pretty obsolete and there are so many tools within this website/calculator etc that we can throw the Wiki in the trash as far as gear setups go. (I still think the info on the Wiki is accurate and is quite good otherwise for info).
Let me know what you think or any setups you wanna see in the comments!
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@TheL0rd0fSpace Месяц назад

The monkey setup got Bass, and the wiki got Runite Ore, meaning the wiki setup had better gp/hr

@usherif Месяц назад

You can one shot the parasite with mace spec. But you need strength bonus and you have none lmaoo😂. Good video idea

@shame1290 Месяц назад

these charts are a very good starting point to go off, saying this as a person who started playing a year~ ago and these charts helped me out a lot in figuring out what gear to work towards, as i dont even know what geear exists in the game. obviously as i came to content harder than jad i started to use dps calcs to go fact check setups and find cheaper/better alternatives, but i still occasionally check those charts to see if i missed something. what im trying to say is: these charts are good as an inspiration, not guides

@matilyn_rf Месяц назад

Wiki is def just alternatives for any slots you've been unlucky in-- for Irons, mainly.

@escape_ffs7552 Месяц назад

This will be a FIRE series. Please continue with them!!

@dubudubu2442 Месяц назад

I don’t think you’re exactly meant to use the chart like that lol but this is good content

@RenshoYT Месяц назад

Please make this a regular series, this is amazing. I want to see you do everything like this

@NanoBudgie Месяц назад

Look at that power creep. Veracs dead now smh…

@DaemonRayge Месяц назад

I feel like the downgrade charts aren't exactly awful, but do omit a lot of extra needed context. Although those that do need context do typically include a small footnote about that. Although the fact they recommend a dwarven helm as the lowest gear over a Neitznot is questionable.

@XxSupaBAMxX Месяц назад

nah a lot of them are just vibes based and obviously have not been double checked with a dps calc and actually tested out. Just clicking on a random page, for basilisk knights they mention full inquisitor as bis? You'll get shredded by their melee attacks. It's obvious whoever put this there has never tested it at all.

@jkil32 Месяц назад

@@XxSupaBAMxX uh, full inq is absolutely bis @ bask knights

@PyroManya77 Месяц назад

@@XxSupaBAMxX ugh awkward moment when they do not shred you. Not sure if you maybe were thinking of another creature. Also reminder to bring the required items to kill slayer creatures, and others alike.

@XxSupaBAMxX Месяц назад

@@PyroManya77 they do though, I have tried it. Your trips will be short since they will hit you with melee

@PyroManya77 Месяц назад

@@XxSupaBAMxX Their max hit is a 20. Should be able to do around 8 prayer potions per trip. I think you might be reading the wiki wrong. Even in the guide it says ranged is the strongest. Inquisitor will still be BIS for melee.

@MrGrstaka Месяц назад

Sir I think you forgot that the infernal cape you used costs at least 200m for most players... Not exactly a "budget" setup :/

@RihardM Месяц назад

this one is funny! gj

@Christian-jr1gn Месяц назад

lol shits more like 500-900m for the average player

@dakotafrederick4909 Месяц назад

Wonderful series idea, loved it.

@buttisholy8571 Месяц назад

Damn, great vid man. Gonna sub after that!

@Pokemarquet Месяц назад

Veracs ring of suffering give prayer bonus which does help for longevity of phosani. But yeah they are closer to useless

@ImUnadjusted Месяц назад

Pros has a better bonus

@blueblue6136 Месяц назад

the trying to how much you can beat the original time with same budget really makes the concept interesting, cool vid

@DrumAndSpaces Месяц назад

Phosani in a nutshell: oh its bass.

@Nitrognhorse Месяц назад

Bass ain't bad, it means you get to stay for a couple more kills and camp full health :)

@Mr1986anthony Месяц назад

Great series idea!

@BWTHeuSeD Месяц назад

I wonder if a blurb about how to gear would be far more effective than a chart like that. For phosani specifically, it could mention that crush accuracy and strength bonus is important, your defense doesn't matter, prayer bonus is nice, and the damage thresholds for 1 shots are important. Then for totems mention that magic damage is important, but accuracy is useless.

@Firescout23 Месяц назад

It already does exactly that just below the chart

@CatnamedMittens Месяц назад

It mentions that

@sirgarde2293 Месяц назад

Yeah he's just completely ignoring the context provided by the article.

@hardeg4 Месяц назад

Shoutout to GearScape and its amazing creator!

@Augystys Месяц назад

Nightmare\PN is prob my fav boss, but with the worst drop table i've ever seen. Need that update asap. Sick vid dude.

@Friday_Monday Месяц назад

Was the veracs suggested for the prayer bonus?

@CatnamedMittens Месяц назад

Yes

@maniacmatt7340 Месяц назад

Its always surprising to me how much people think gear is end all be all, when clearly skill and experience can make up for a lot!

@user-ty7zy1eg3y Месяц назад

this is a great series

@fabiopauli420 Месяц назад

For those wanting to know: the first boss OST is from "Hollowknight:" track "Mantis lords"

@StayFrosty5105 Месяц назад

I knew it was from hollowknight, i couldnt figure out what boss lol

@calebholbrook9645 Месяц назад

wiki recommends dwarven helmet only when using the zammy hasta for crush. That's why it's in a separate column

@Xeno_11 Месяц назад

bro legit making shit up thats wild

@astrosurfer Месяц назад

Then why are scythe and avernic in the same column? Is there a secret 3-handed tech I don't know about?

@st4my721 Месяц назад

no it doesnt work like that =D

@thomasresha1367 Месяц назад

@@astrosurfer bro hasn’t even added his avernic to his scythe yet zzz

@ImUnadjusted Месяц назад

You remember when your parents told you to think before you speak? It wasn't to be polite, it was to stop you from sounding like an idiot

@ThatLegitBeast Месяц назад

This premise is good. Do this for more messed up wiki monsters

@BenHCapen Месяц назад

I like that for gear, but I think the thing I use the wiki page for most is my iron man. I like knowing what's second BIS, even specifically at PNM (never got a bludgeon). maybe they could make one for irons that takes collection log data to suggest gear?

@fabiopauli420 Месяц назад

please next do the stratagy guide for Wispherer, i honstly dk if thats even mathimatically possiable it has "WIZARD BOOTS" on it. Bro, WIZARD BOOTS

@astrosurfer Месяц назад

Minimum wiki setup is 3 dps at 99 magic with no boosts/prayers. Enrage would average ~47 seconds and it takes ~80 seconds to lose 100% sanity from staying in the shadow realm. It should be doable if you trigger enrage at 100% sanity and don't take any damage during enrage. Thralls, forgotten/ancient brews, and a boost prayer would give even more leeway. That said, I'm still laughing that the minimum recommended setup includes an amulet of power, a skillcape, and a combat bracelet. Which players are getting halfway through DT2 without at least an MA1 cape and rune gloves ?

@fabiopauli420 Месяц назад

@@astrosurfer im suprised you didnt mention the Rune Thrownaxe spec weapon. clearly the best spec weapon in the game

@astrosurfer Месяц назад

@@fabiopauli420 That's just for the ghost special. They're actually the second best option for that purpose behind venator bow if you're not using any other spec weapon, since they'll one-shot one full group of ghosts per spec.

@Thirtys_ Месяц назад

im in for the long haul of this series i think this is fucking gold

@JesseHDG Месяц назад

I mean, the downgrade charts don't assume you downgrade everything to the minimum at the same time. If you own all max gear but just not a good helmet for example, that dwarven helmet with a crush weapon would still make slight sense. Very slight, but at least some.

@minuettu Месяц назад

this was epic mr gno mankey

@jax775 Месяц назад

This is a great idea for a series of videos. As a shitter, I'm here to see what a goat can do with trash gear

@SilverNight145 Месяц назад

The live stream of this was hilarious

@Ren-kei Месяц назад

blood moon is actually really good here

@hush8108 Месяц назад

Pls do more of these.

@grapes8209 Месяц назад

i love this idea XD

@SnatsKoning Месяц назад

Its insane how quickly your brain thinks of solutions, the undead grasp at 14:30 200IQ

@IamMrSimQn Месяц назад

Really fun concept for a video. Personally I prefer crappy gear struggles over efficent max gear. But that's just my taste

@XMoeiskingX Месяц назад

Let see how fast we can crash orb and inquisitor prices :)

@doofwolf1474 Месяц назад

13mins for regular nightmare??? nice!!!

@ectochungus673 Месяц назад

Make this a series

@martinverbeek8862 Месяц назад

You are the perfect person te ask this. In the rebalance they said vespula has a new added fire weakness of 50%. Does this mean im using harm at vesp even though the attack cycle is 1 tick longer than harm attack just like sang at akka butterfly? I hope it isnt because i cape switch after demon like everybody else and i wouldnt want to skip out on thralls at shamans and vanguards just so i can use firesurge with lick loss at vespula. My follow up question would be why add all this if it doesnt work? Is it a lower lvl thing im not seeing?

@GnomonkeyRS Месяц назад

It's close to tbow but still not good, it's 3rd or 4th BIS so don't worry about it. The change is supposed to add flavor but doesn't change metas anywhere except zulrah.

@martinverbeek8862 Месяц назад

@@GnomonkeyRS thank u very much!

@GoraRSPS Месяц назад

Hilarious content 😂

@halotango3 Месяц назад

yo this could actually be a pretty fun series idea

@wilk_ipedia Месяц назад

Not sure how others feel, but I’m concerned about how intense of a grind the hellhounds/farming will be. Like, it could be a series killer off episode 1. Skipping hard grinds isn’t in the spirit of a series, but I can see this chunk causing burn out.

@randomness5435 Месяц назад

I agree with the uselessness of wiki setups. A midlevel player keeps getting recommended Torva for shit like the giant mole. No shit. What does a general mid level setup look like? It could be reduced to three full sets, rather than a sliding scale. Max-Med-Min

@yogynuts Месяц назад

i dont have to use the wiki chart when i want to learn a new boss and when it gets outdated lets goooo

@chukarec Месяц назад

the best boss encounter in the game

@SpookyDino255 Месяц назад

Gnomonkey completes all bosses, *Me sitting at ge flipping to 1b then wondering what to do next* bosses are scary

@niels2045 Месяц назад

11min kill of a crazy boss to receive bass

@metalface230 Месяц назад

would help if you read the extra notes on the wiki which literally explain the reason for the downgrade suggestions. nt though

@0xBEEFBABE Месяц назад

the hollow knight music goes hard ❤

@tzarc.8386 Месяц назад

The dwarven helmet doing nothing lmfao

@ratkinggames947 Месяц назад

the hollow knight music is peak

@twoshirts1842 Месяц назад

I definitely prefer this content over to the tits max gear all the time. I think this shows skill more than shaving seconds off of PBs. Only like 10% understand how ridiculous saving 8 ticks in a god run is. Hopefully im not alone.

@nichopulli7142 Месяц назад

Can an ironman use this and upload their gear to determine what's the best set up according to what items they have in their bank?

@TM26Slippy Месяц назад

listen Gnome. my hands are stupid and my brain is old... vice versa

@SejuanisFlail Месяц назад

I'd actually love if the HLC slowly worked together to help better the wiki gear sets for downgraded gear, i hate when the mid tier gear suggestions are just shit for playing the iron/rebuilds

@Mr_Spaghetti 19 дней назад

I thought gnomonkey was being intentionally obtuse about the recommended items chart but the end of the video made me not so sure. the dwarven helmet and fang both being the last item isn’t saying you should use them together, you’re supposed to use the leftmost item you have for each category. It’s still not great and has some mistakes, but it in no way is telling you to pair those two items together

@Mr_Spaghetti 19 дней назад

and while that website is really cool and i’m gonna start using it, it also has some flaws. Like the difference between a 50M setup and a 100M setup for Phosani’s is it telling you to get Prims, which an algorithm might determine is the best DPS increase, but a person would tell you there are much better upgrade paths you should focus on first. Thats a flaw it shares with the wiki charts, no distinction of how important (or unimportant) each upgrade is.

@superskurken7358 Месяц назад

i havent seen the website you used, but i think the wiki still might be good for ironmen, where money does not matter and you only got the gear that you have

@alexcarter8460 Месяц назад

ngl this really helps prove fang can carry hard

@markpicarello7133 Месяц назад

Wiki is completely volunteer fan work. It has endless information that helps us. Ofc the best PVMers in the word are going to know better strats. Im pretty sure you can submit in changes..

@cotyembry Месяц назад

L00000000000000L "alright boys, the wiki says you can do it" LOOOOOOOOOOOL 🤣

@jonkay2888 Месяц назад

the website mentioned is nice, but doesn't seem to account for lightbearer? Is there any way to quantify it?

@GnomonkeyRS Месяц назад

Best option is just exclude rings with strength bonus if lightbearer is good at a location, then it won't change the other gear for max hits

@kanehopwood-je9cc Месяц назад

bruv this is how i learnt to play the game.

@iJezza Месяц назад

ring of suffering gives prayer bonus :)

@Scorsch Месяц назад

You dont bring a rune crossbow for verzik webs?

@mistybong Месяц назад

Maracas stays on peak performance 😤😤

@MystxVii Месяц назад

Is the hit box indicator a specific plug-in or just part of the "Tag" plugin?, i cant seem to find it.

@GnomonkeyRS Месяц назад

Better NPC highlights has it, can also go through the Tag menu options

@MystxVii Месяц назад

@@GnomonkeyRS

@sdi_gunsmith Месяц назад

My favorite boss T_T

@Ele_919 Месяц назад

hollow knight music 🗿🔥🔥

@Captain_Willlow Месяц назад

Downgrade charts are super good for irons.

@gaufill Месяц назад

I never took the charts as exact thing. They are rough guidelines, and downgrades are just that - downgrades. Also, some people actually have restricted accounts to where they can’t get tons of items a maxed main obviously can get.

@crgregoawk Месяц назад

Please make this a series lol this is was such a great video

@viet_c95 Месяц назад

enjoyed that video you doing funny stupid stuff like this 🎉

@ea_enkiii7090 Месяц назад

Ayo flick the melle pray you bean lord

@ea_enkiii7090 Месяц назад

Thats the best part of the fite

@bubbyis1337 Месяц назад

gnome looks like mark proksch

@thebomber11 Месяц назад

I killed phosani with mole slippers blue skirt chef hat dragon mace and strength Amy. Isn't that bad tbh

@Jman42576 Месяц назад

Can we appreciate some neet has gone out his way to type all this information out and put the gear setups in & Gnomonkey is like.. here's a 17 minute video on why all of that is stupid af. hahahah

@gabe781 Месяц назад

ngl Phosani is a top tier boss. Shame the drop table is subpar.

@Forged4War206 Месяц назад

Bro the Wiki is modded by Redditors lmao. Hilariously enough, it used to be WAYYYY worse. I was straight up banned from editing because I kept trying to add a max efficiency setup for Zulrah several years ago but they kept taking it down because it was deemed too "inaccessible" for the average player. At least nowadays they're aware that having setups for all levels of account progression is good and not just gatekeeping everything to "accessible" setups, even if many of them are not very accurate. If more people start catching on to the GearScape tool, it basically just invalidates the Wiki's gear recommendations lmao. Now even the most obscure account build will be able to know exactly what to bring to every boss without having to rely on the Wiki's hilarious gear downgrade recommendations some of which make zero sense (like Dwarven Helm with Fang lol).

@kjax139 Месяц назад

lol, why didn’t you just go to perdu or however you spell his name to reclaim the dwarven helm

@laranjo5999 Месяц назад

Btw, now imagine using these setups without a maxed account (which anyone using this gear will not have)... Lmao the wiki setups are something else

@st1ckyt4pe72 Месяц назад

wiki downgrade boss series? 😂😂😂😂 luv it

@OsrsCop Месяц назад

Thats a weird looking inq mace in ur inventory

@CripplingDepressionQuantumSucc Месяц назад

sharted when i saw this in my sub box

@rhynnoh1991 Месяц назад

It sure would be cool if people took the time to make the wiki guides better instead of spending that time making a video about how they’re bad.

@J0sh351 Месяц назад

more more more

@darthchowder2023 Месяц назад

Trident of the swamp 1 way!? 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@calocera5156 Месяц назад

shoutout to my fav pokemanz makuhita 11:39

@colonian83 Месяц назад

gearscape still needs some work. put in 1.3b budget and it chooses full torva with salad blade for verzik.

@OsrsCaleb 7 дней назад

Bro If I saw you running by going to phosani, insta report lol. Also p5 is like medic on steroids at toa.

@mechlordx Месяц назад

GP value gear calc doesnt work for ironmen

@skoodlemoose Месяц назад

whay's wrong with the strategy guide downgrade for toa? you could easily do it with the lowest downgrades available

@saltontoast Месяц назад

pov jagex not adding enough pvm content

@skoodlemoose Месяц назад

gnomonkey forgot prayer bonus exists

@lindsssss Месяц назад

Bellybutton fluff 🤣

@MrScale241 Месяц назад

Wiki gearing guides are mostly bad due to them being the least effort being put into them. New gear is coming out all the time and high level pvmers will only say "use BiS"