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An image I like to use when people don't get this is: trying to soundproof with sound treatment, is like trying to fix a water leak with a dehumidifier and some towels.
However, sometimes noise reduction rather than assuming completely sound proofing a room is okay too. There is no such thing as complete sound proofing. Think of an wooden floor room with thin walls, compared to a well insulated room with carpet. One you can hear even the slightest of conversations to the other where you can't. It does make a difference. Sound proofing is not accurate anyway, sound is a form of energy so it is just about lowering decibels. So if someone has annoying kids or parties in that room then carpeting, acoustic panels, wall insulation, etc could make all the difference, even if it doesn't completely stop everything. Better to have a bucket and towels rather than nothing.
To perfectly blocking a sound is almost impossible especially for a very loud situation like a jamming/practice room but it's ok to have some noise going through outside because I think no one ever expected to have 0 decibel passing through outside. Thank you for the explanation.
So there’s basically no way to soundproof a room in a shared house for cheap. Watched so many of these videos and it seems impossible to do anything affordable as a broke student in a shared house who can hear housemates talk even at a low volume from their room and they can hear if I talk quietly because of how thin the walls are 😕
I saw a video from Doug Zed where he plastered Futon(thick Japanese bedding) on every wall and ceuling of a room and covered them up with thick moving blankets/black out curtains. He did before and after tests using various sources(shouting, full blast studio monitors, ect) and noticed a massive improvement.
Well, that's pretty much the same idea of foam over mass loaded vinyl, because bedding usually has a mass layer for insulation and a layer of cushion for softness. So that makes sense. I don't know that it would be any easier or cheaper to do than just lining your whole wall with mass loaded vinyl and then cover with denser foam. I bet Sonopan on top of vinyl would work even better. Too bad there isn't Sonopan in my area.
My problem is from noise above in another apartment. They radiate into a bedroom and living room. Closing and opening of a door, footsteps, running, moving of furniture, someone dropping things on the floor above which is made of reinforced concrete. The walls in the apartment are also solid concrete.
I just want something to actually make my room soundproof so that I don't have to worry about my neighbors hearing my girl and I doing the Ogre swamp wrestle.
"echo" in the room is nothing else, than wall reflection. The Sound and its reflection add up - so when U even use only absorber to reduce "echo", the sound becomes slightly quieter.
One thing worth noticing is that acoustic guitars can resonate with certain frequencies and almost amplify tones coming from electric equipment, so put a strand of rope between the strings if you are not using the guitar and think it looks great on the wall.
Everyone says fiberglass is only good for sound treating a room and won't cut the noise, but there's a clear diff between walls with insulation and those without when it comes to cutting noise. I need to reduce the noise from my half stack, as much as possible.
This channel should be called “how to not sound proof anything ever”. Best option for studio guys: Go to a mattress store. Ask them if you can get the foam out of the disposed of mattresses. Bring a box cutter with extra blades. I got 3-6” thick foam out of like 12 queen and king sized mattresses. (Most mattresses are hybrids now). Hang it everywhere, glue it where you can. That room was so quiet I could hear my heart beat.
So if I'm using "sound absorbing" materials does the material itself actually "hang on" to the sounds it's been absorbing and then allow me to recall those sounds in the order they were stored by simply squeezing the sounds out of the material when I want to re-hear what I've stored.
Make sure to read the reviews on what you purchase, lots of people are selling nonsense "imitation" products that doesn't squeeze the sounds out in the right order! Won't make that mistake twice.
I love singing and i still live with my parents, night time is definitely the time i want to express myself, i used to want to get these acoustic foam but now i guess i'm gonna wait for couple years ahead after finishing my college and live in my own house
I can relate. If you want to do stuff at night I recommend asking a community center of some sort if you can have access to their space after hours for the purpose of singing. Think of churches, leisure centers etc etc. Have a good pitc, clear expectations, and be ready to be a bit pushy ;)
Hello there, thank you for the informative video. It outlined a lot of things that don’t work for sound BLOCKING. Do you have any recommendations for something that would work for that specific need? To be more specific I’m not doing any recording or hiding echos , just don’t want the people in the apartment above me to hear the tv and other things coming out of my bedroom , it’s bad for them and weird for me knowing they can, I don’t mind spending money on this so any ideas that would show some noticeable improvement are welcome. Thank you
The problem with trying to put that material in walls, is that the studs transfer the sound from one side of the wall to the other. And unless you take care of that problem first, you'll never block the sound. Putting those panels on the wall, stops the sound before it gets to the sheetrock.
The way those foam panels work is in the complexity of the shape. it creates a shitload of internal reflections within the foam and there's a ton of destructive interference. This is "absorption". This is also the same principle behind how those wooden break-up panels work...it's just diffusing a wave away from direct reflection as well as encouraging some destructive interference. If you want to block sound transmission and deaden a room, a thin layer of mlv behind a stack of thin materials of differing acoustic impedance is extremely effective. More effective than the same thickness of a single material with one acoustic impedance (say MLV itself). This is because of all the interface reflections and destructive interference you can create within those layers. Imagine a twenty layers of tinfoil and newspaper and some acoustic foam on top...that will block sound far better than you ever might expect. Put a little acoustic foam in front of it and you're doing about as well as you can without adding a ton of mass.
My husband & I will be moving into an upstairs apartment with 5 of our kids, ages 2-12. I am nervous about disturbing our neighbor's, as my kids have never lived in an apartment before & are very loud. It is all we can afford, though, so I need as many tips as possible. I have had talks with them about not running, jumping, yelling, dragging toys across the hard floor ... etc, but the reality is that it will take time to break those habits. Hopefully my neighbor is patient & gracious during the adjustment period. I am looking for any way to help dampen the sound other than the obvious ones. Would pool noodles on the walls help much? I have seen people cut them in half & make wall art, and you can get them at dollar tree. I just don't want to waste money on solutions that make minimal impact.
Hi, I am much troubled by the noise overhead day and night. My home is in a 6-storey building. My flat is on the 2nd floor. There is always heavy walking on the vinyl in the apartment above. Every time when someone is walking there, I am suffering underneath. It is a feeling of being hit on the head to an extent when the heavy walking stops, the bomb bomb bomb sound still prevails just like a torture chamber. Referring to the regulations in the Lease, stated in the 'Capet and floor coverings', the Tenant must cover the floors of the property with appropriate floor coverings as may be required to deaden sound in the property.' I have asked the site office three times for help. It sometimes seems less frequent and severe but the noise is still there and even received in the bedroom when the ear is on the pillow during bedtime. Thank you very much!
I’ve got a single car garage, 3m x 6m, and am looking to use it as a games room, while the kids sleep, so priority is blocking sound going OUT rather than blocking sound coming in. Best does that mean “sound absorbing” acoustic panels will still be good?
if you have enough acoustic foam you'll soundproof your room, common soundproofing are basically just absorbing sound until there's nothing left to leak outside right?
I hve a hack 4 u. I found at Ross huge 4 pack yoga, fitness panels for 9.99 bought like 4 an used 8 for my ceiling in room and 4 on walls. In my room. As it's dense an thick. Very good stuff
Not sure if you're still responding to comments. But I have a room with 3 windows and a basement my Suegro can let me rent out that has only 1 basement window; If I use the right sealants and such can it semi-sound proof the room. Has a lot of reverberance but the goal is to be able to work in an environment where I don't disturb my spouse while gaming late and when I do voice acting which is not shouting base but rather normal office level speech. Hope this makes sense thanks~!
Hi ATARi, Sealants will make a bit of a difference but it's mostly a finishing touch when soundproofing and not the main element you would use to drown out your vocals. You would need to add mass to block the noise but since you're renting that might be difficult
I have a suspended ceiling, which I know does almost nothing to keep sound in, But if I were to cover the back of each panel with mass loaded vinyl, would that have any effect?
How about umbrellas? They are quite thin, but also have shape that returns sound up to the ceiling. They look quite good and when ppl are fed up with them they forget, or leave them at the busstop. In my opinion they work quite well. Better than hard flat surfaces that perfectly reflects any noise.
I have a detached house with two outside walls cavity brick a block breeze separating wall from the staircase. I have watched so many videos on sound proofing but my logic is to deaden a room volume from pressure to a factor for sound emitting audioto propel sound waves in a space that will equalise its delivery parameters for the best possible cinematic experience. Is this more the right reason for absorption and reflection. As to my thoughts I still am unsure as to prepare for my project I have in mind. And want to use concepts I think will be best.
My question is, im trying to sound proof from the OUTSIDE from coming inside my room, im not worried about the outside hearing me im worried about sound from outside coming inside. Will using the panels help with that?
I am not looking for soundproofing but for sound reduction. It is okay if I hear what is happening outside my room or other to hear something happening in mine. But the transfer is so crystal clear it can be awkward. If I am trying to listen to some asmr to help me sleep I don't need that to be heard clearly through my walls lol. And I have serious echo issues everywhere in my room. And it does not work in the reverse. Meaning except on rare occasions I normally can't hear much coming into my room.
I happen to have some spare floor vinyl left.... When you mentiones 'mass loaded vinyl' a few bells started ringing and I thought can I use this floor vinyl for 'soundproofing' also?
I am thinking about building a portable booth out of panels. This booth will be a complete enclosure. I am thinking maybe making each panel 3’x7’ for a total size of 6’x6’x7’. This booth will be used for vocals mainly but I want it big enough so I can play instruments in there as well. Would you recommend sound proofing or acoustic foam? There won’t be any echo so would that eliminate acoustic treatment? Thanks in advance :)
I’m trying to sound proof for a Foosballs table. The sounds are sharp. I do need the echo gone but like is there anything that works better for sharp sounds?
45db, that's what I need to have a good sleep. Unfortunately, I cannot have that because of very, VERY loud neighbors. The noise in my room is 55db average with 68db max (you wonder how could I measure that on the first place). Since doing any permanent wall modification is not possible, I'll try to install the foam anyway, It's my only hope.
What should I do to reduce the sounds from my upstairs neighbors walking around? Is there anything I can do to my ceiling? It's a condo, so I own the ceiling. I live in an old building with outdated structure, built in 1970.
What would you say is the best way to lower the volume of sound traveling in a straight line down a long hallway or stairwell? I have an entertainment room at the top of an open-ended stairwell with no ability to install doors at either end. I may not be able to kill the sound completely, but I would like to reduce the volume of somewhat loud sounds (conversations, dog barking, pots and pans) going up the stairs.
I have a question : when the sound come from the out side which is better to use ? is the same principle ? putting this vynil on the wall will block the sounds that come from the outside too or I have to put it external ?
would putting up small 1'x1' squares of mlv in a 10'x10' room (maybe 4 or 5 on each wall) help reduce sound travelling through a wall or is it only effective if I install it across the whole wall?
Hi and thanks for your amazing tutorials. Why can't we soundproof a room using just absorbers even if thick Rockwool has absorbtion coefficient 1 in many frequencies(even low frequencies)?! So shouldn't Rockwool absorb frequencies with absorbtion coefficient 1 and leave nothing to reach our ears?!
I think before you made this video you should understand the difference between sound proofing and sound treatment. Proofing is completely removing all sounds coming from outside your room. Foam absolutely CANNOT achieve this. As far as sound treatment goes foam is still a terrible option. Rockwool is the way and only way to go
This doesn't make sense on a physical perspective. You say it is absorbing sound, but at the same time it won't stop sound transferring to the other side of the wall. It just doesn't make sense. Whenever sound is absorbed by material it loses some of its energy, thus yes, it does prevent some amount of the sound transferring to the other side of the wall. If you're gonna attempt to describe it from a physical perspective, then at least do it right.
HEY! Great videos on sound proofing. I recently moved into a house located about 200 feet from a slow moving train. We have a back house that we want to rent out but cant until we soundproof for a train horn. After watching your videos I have a much better grasp on sound proofing but what would you recommended for my situation? Will Quietrock 545 help me dampen the noise enough to have tenants sleep better?! Thank you.
Hi, great video of sound proofing. I recently had a new shower pump installed and it emits sound between 43-58db. A handyman friend managed to secure an Easy Panel (Soundproofing Plate) which I intend to build a box from to cover the pump. Have you heard of this material and if so, is it effective? Any advice would be gratefully received. Thanks and keep your videos coming. 👍😊
The only way is to lose about 12 inches on all walls and doors, you need a room within a room, it needs the floor to be on standoffs and separate door.
Does it help blocking sound coming from outside? If I cover my window with it from outside I will put these foam on my windows from outside as i have a room beside balcony so will it work?
Im having a project to do for my own music studio and i am following your channel for this in a while now. Im planning to make an acrylic enclosure in one of the corners on our room. Using 2 sides of acrylic sheets with 10mm thick attaching it to the wall up to the ceiling. Will it help atleast trap the sound inside and then adding foams and gym mats to the wall to help in sound proofing inside of it???? Thanks for answering...
They won’t help to “trap” sound inside the room. It will However help making the room sound better. It will reduce the amount of decibel leaking from the room but only if there’s already a bad echo. And even then, you wouldn’t be completely satisfied by the results.
@@soundproofguide hmmmm, i was thinking making acrylic sheet walls will help to soundproof it as long as the gaps will be filled with seals ot weather strip. So better make a room instead of 2 acrylic sheet attached on a corner walls???
Look at Etsy and Pinterest. There are links for buying burlap, suede, and other materials in some things that they show. Using canvas stretchers means no cutting or nailing, readymade and just push the fitted joints together. We need to be easy on the environment, fire safety is first concern. Nothing to spread a fire. Share materials and tools with others, who will help you scrounge for materials or lend a staple gun. I can’t see how acrylic would be of much help. Think old time movie theaters….thick, weighted heavy drapes. The sidewalls are beveled panels, staggered placement, act as baffles. We’ve got so much to learn with this stuff. Quieting things down is simple planning, trial and error, but don’t waste material and always, fire safety. Think of mom’s house…thick thick carpet and pads, overstuffed furniture, floor cushions, drapes with heavy liners. The lampshades two feet high….but no soundproof issues.
Now... How about putting massloaded vinyl on the wall, and then attaching the acoustic foam on top of it? Usecase: I would lime to be sure im not annoying my neighbours with my soundbar... I have pretty much one wall I'd like to isolate, plus maybe the edges around it... I would think that reducing the echo would help with the other directions, and then the vinyl would keep the sound from going through the one wall... Am i right? At least kinda?
If you’re confused just imagine sound waves as water. The foam will slow down water coming back from the wall but it wouldn’t block the water like a brick wall
Ik the naswer to my question gonna be "wtch the video" but what type of "foam" or idk what could help me to reduce the sound from other rooms going to mine?
I'm not looking for perfect sound proofing. All I want is to increase a little privacy, maybe muffle the clarity of voices. I can hear my office mate's conversations in the room next to mine perfectly, and vice versa.
What if I used that vinal stuff. I plan on sound proofing a very small closet so I can record in it and be as loud as I want. I already bought acoustic stuff because I, like a lot of other people, thought they were for soundproofing lol. Would it be expensive to soundproof a very small closet? I know it's hard to tell without me saying measurements but think a tiny bit more longer than your armspan.
Hello, I am looking a way to decrease the thud sound from upstairs neighbors. My roof is plasterboard with a layer of cotton wool, but I can still hear the neighbors walking or moving furniture. Are there any surface mount solutions or should I just use earplugs and hope to hear my morning alarm?
Thank you very much sir ! @Soundproof Guide , I want to practice as loud as I want without disturbing my neighbour above me, so I was searching and searching, and came up with a solution. I want to put a garden shed in my living room, 7x6 feet , and then attach Mass Loaded Vinyl on the inside and make sure every wall is completely covered , the floor as well. do you think it is a good idea, do you think it will work? Thanks in advance
What if I’m just trying to dampen the sound coming from the outside of the room to stop my children from being heard on like teams. Microphone noise gating is just not working when the toddler screams.
If I put some sound isolating sheets on a window + sound absorbing panels on it + cushion tape on the edges, could it block the sound from the street...? The walls themselves are very thick and sound blocking, my huge issue is the windows.
You guys need to start investing in more furniture to place against wall, order lots of loud fans but not too loud that it'll annoy you. there will always be sound my people, it's called filling up a echo room will lots of stuff, and sounds wont drown you room. mass loaded vinyl is worth saving your money for. a thick one is better, once you place it to cover the entire wall, you don't need to put it under drywall, then start to add thick pictures or chests for storage along your wall. If you need to sacrifice outings, electronics etc. to save for these items for long-term relief, then do it up. get an extra job for a month if you have too. If it's that bad, you'll want to get it over with. Yes it's hard work, and you'll be tired for a short amount of time.
I have an outside small shed that is about 15ft x 10ft with a small double glazed window and door on the same wall, i am looking to soundproof the entire shed top to bottom for an acoustic drumkit what is the best course of action?
I have golf simulator in my shop and the bay is against a wall that has another business on the other side. Currently I have sound cancelling blankets on the back of the screen itself but still noise going through the wall. would you recommend loaded vynal on the wall behind the screen to soften the sound of the ball impacting with the screen? Also considering the wall is already finished is it ok to put it over the drywall? Not going to be the prettiest thing but it will be behind the screen where no one can see it. Or is there something else you would recommend?
If I stuck acoustic foam to the 3 walls surrounding my noisy fridge, will that create a deadening of the sound emitted from the fridge to reduce low and high frequencies it emits to reduce the decibel noise level noticeably?
No, it won’t really do anything unfortunately. Sticking something like mass loading vinyl to the fridge would help reduce vibration and noise transfer.
@@soundproofguide thank you. Would covering the fridge's lower half of the back (where the compressor is, minus the venting holes) and the lower half of both sides be sufficient? Or would it mean covering the front of the fridge as well?