Will Consoles Sam Before Sam Gives A Pep Talk | Margin Call 

He clearly expressed he felt awful about the firm being first to dump its shit

@@thelastvigil111 yes but the point is he wasn't feeling sad about the people losing jobs, but rather the firm losing reputation/clients

Its a Golden Retriever, the Brains behind the operation.

@@sadas3190 that is the same thang

Guys, the reason for the whole dog death storyline is to show the actual depth of Sam's sympathy -- which he quickly turns off when he's working at the investment bank. In that scene, you watch him tearfully mourn his pet before walking into a room in a matter of seconds, projecting smug confidence and optimism. We, the audience, know it's a performance, but showing his transition shows you something about the bank -- it's a culture that teaches its people to ignore their sympathies and sentimentalities. Their co-workers, now without jobs, are "not to be thought of again." He tells them "you were better." Well, not necessarily. We know for a fact that's not the only reason they're firing people. It's a culture that teaches people that other people's tragedies are YOUR opportunities. It teaches them that everything they've been through that day is GOOD THING as long as they're still standing at the end of it. It's a delusional, self-centered culture, however necessary. And the guys at the top who sell the delusion know better.

The actor is Paul Bethany. He's top-notch.

​@@IordanIovkovThe story of him landing the role of 'Vision' is quite cathartic.

That part was awesome as well. The firm just laid off numerous employees and are in a grim and dark period...and this guy is lamenting his dog. It's like Will was struggling with the disassociation. Is he trolling me? Is he serious? Wait - he's serious, so...I guess that's a traumatic thing??

@@nottelling4828 Yup. You can see him being surprised by emotions he clearly lacks, adjusting quickly and saying what he thinks is the correct response. Subtle and expressive acting with eye movement and microexpressions.

Paul Betteny he was brilliant in an earlier film he did, Gangster Number 1. Very underrated film, and he’s married to Jennifer Connelly one of my favourites

Doesn't it though. Everyone likes to think they will be missed if they leave. A friend told me once, when someone leaves, it's like pulling an arm out of a bucket of water. Whatever void you left just closes up right away.

that's even more true for blue collar workers too, lol

I once had a job where I had to develop recording film. This required making up gallons of various baths. I was looking for something to stir with and in a drawer in the darkroom, there were a bunch of plastic name plates with random names that I didn't recognize. I asked one of the other engineers who they were and he said "those were people who were let go". What a way to be achieve immortality at a company.

To a T!

What a world, What a world.

It is all about the characters and acting.

You are awesome! 😂

Yeah. But, meanwhile flying shoes were received.

You sound harsh

And that is how for the last 107 months, you've continued to get heavier. So keep your chins up, and get back to eating.

Yes, this. Seriously, I've long thought that the big takeaway from this movie was that there aren't any heroes in these kinds of situations. Everyone's flawed, compromised, and/or too small a participant in too large a machine. Eric Dale identifies the problem but is laid off before he can do anything about it, Peter brings Eric's work to light but is too low on the ladder to do anything more than that, Sam and Will are taken aback at the implications of the deal but still stay and take the money, etc. The CEO even calls Sam out on his hypocrisy at the end; he's getting all high and mighty when he's been making cutthroat trades for decades that've put people out of work or crushed their whole businesses. And as you say, he pisses and moans about his dog but it didn't occur to him once to reach out to his son-even after Peter brings it up, we find out Sam wasn't even aware of how his son did the whole day until he's burying the dog at night and speaks with his ex-wife. He STILL hadn't checked in.

he's divorced, probably didn't have custody, the dog has been with him more than his ex wife and son

True. I thought that too. Must say I feel sorry for him though. Divorced, doesn’t speak to his son, a job he wants out of and only thing he had left positive in his life was his dog.

He would have broken insider trading laws to inform his son. Even if the system is rigged, Sam still plays within the rules of that system. To quote The Wire, “A man’s gotta have a code.”

@@orbazel agreed. You’re on point.

Notice when Bettany calls the head of risk house at like 11 at night, he sobers up instantly and effects a really really british accent haha it's class

Great performance by Paul Bettany

Yep... but at least they got a (potential) massive payday out of the action, so that's something. The best part of this scene is the awkward, mechanical way Sam reassures his employees (robotically pointing at several of them as he talks about "opportunity") when he doesn't believe in it himself.

@@crazyrabbitsSam just doing his job, all executives do the same.

Well.. everyone except for Sam, Will and especially Peter (who got promoted by the end of the movie).

@@Coadz95 By everybody I meant the majority of the employees. And the survivors will only hang on for as long as Tuld needs them. When it comes down to him or them. Tuld will sacrifice them without any hesitation.

Well, the employees are not dying they are being fired

I like what this comment says without saying it. Corporate America has conditioned people to consider jobs more valuable than lives.

What's wrong with that? I care infinitely more about my dog than my co-workers. You really think they care about me? Wake up.

@@Stever99999completely agree

@@Stever99999 so much this. 100%

That's the point. In this environment that's the most sympathy you get.

Also, non-dog owners just don’t get just how attached dog owners get to their pups. I used to think dog owners were nuts till I became one myself

@@nardinit good point

Not all were fired. Sullivan was promoted

Not really, if you watch The Big Short Movie, you will know what really saved them was government bailouts, then they use part of the bailout money to leverage the government and stopped big reforms in the financial sector. They are smart pieces of shit, they know some banks will die if their connection to the government is not deep enough, and they know their action will leave millions of people homeless, but they don't give a shit. Having someone like Eric Dale just means they can lose less money by pulling out a bit early, but they still lost a lot, still, they expect the government to save them because they have 100 years of connection within the government sector. In the end, taxpayers and normal people paid for everything, the government printed trillions of dollars to save the financial sector, and the inflation skyrocketed, while the market and economy breaks.

I think Eric would've kept his job if he had spoken up about what he was working on. You could tell that he regretted not telling his superiors when he tried to bring it out to the HR staff, which by then was way too late.

@@HeadsUpSnGGuY He did tell his superior. That's why he got fired.

@@HeadsUpSnGGuY you clearly didn’t watch the movie. He got fired precisely because he spoke up. The irony of it is the person he spoke up to ultimately got fired herself.

Change in HR policy, you had people of merits, now you have "popular" people often charming, ruthless and incompetent. It is corporate world nowadays

Yep animals never owned one. If I was forced to be a hunter or a farmer I'd starve. I really don't like that we eat meat but that's life that's the world. Even if I didn't the world doesn't change just cus that's what I want. No one has that kind of power

That’s professionalism. Imagine you are a surgeon or a Boeing pilot and your child is undergoing tests. Or you are going through a tough divorce. Can you perform? A real pro can do excellent work without effort, without thinking.

You miss the point here. The scene shows how hes sad about a simple dog while not giving a damn about people he just fired.

@@a.a.1245 I made a simple observation. I didn't miss any point and frankly, you're wrong. Sam did nothing but agonize over the situation throughout the movie so what you said isn't even accurate.

@@777jones the higher you are the more easy it is to take time off for your reasons. You create a lot of value by performing right, so being in a position where you aren't in your full capacity is not acceptable. There are people that work with a gun in their head and still do great, others need to be completely sound. One is not better than the other as long as both are creating the same value.

@@jon8004 that is an acute observation

@@jon8004 his dog is closer to home. We care about things closer to us.

@@jon8004 The hole is also a throwback to when Tuld says "you could be digging ditches for a living" and Sam says "at least I'd have some holes in the ground to prove it"

@@jon8004 I care more about my dog than I care about my coworkers to be honest.

@@tylerchambers6246amen

nice made up story.

I have turned off the light twice, and was literally working with the liquidator for 3 mths on one company, thanks DOG, i got out of Corporate world 15 years ago. Peace of mind, trumps mindless dredging.

@@Sammyli99 nice made up story, we believe you, bro.

@@jotarokujo5132 1996 AND 2002

Olympic. WYKYK

Exactly, this just had a forgettable title and people forgot the movie! But it is certainly better. Kevin spacey is believable. Jeremy irons too.

They were pretty different styles. IMO the Big Short did a far superior job is showing what actually was happening to John Q Public (partly due to its mocumentary style, partly due to a cleaner, simpler script). Margin call was more more tense and realistic and portrayed the echelons of management far better. They were both excellent and both achieved the goal they were trying to do.

Agreed

Margin Call is better

They make a really good pair. Would you want either of them not to exist?

Yes they are. They are selling stocks

@@gmar7836 they are not selling

lets hope, you go sooner than most, with your silly comments. Obviously never had a dog, or a person you LOVE, die. Get older quick Bud, its a minefield of memories. Not sure...mmm

That is fair tho. Its nearly impossible to apply a price to everything. So its more efficient and fair to let the markets decide 99% of things.

Even assuming that was possible, it would be a bad idea. Remember, during his pep talk & incentive speech, Sam says "I can't emphasize enough the importance of the first hour and a half." If they offload some amount on a smaller exchange, it then gives everyone else a tip off and chance to react. The LSE is what, an order of magnitude smaller than the combined NYSE? They need to come in like a flood and do the most movement possible in the first 90 minutes.

That was my initial reaction too. I've watched stacks of RU-vid clips since seeing the film and virtually nobody else has said this.

F the fired people. They dont give two f for Sam's personal life, but his dog was always be there when Sam get home. So f them.

he didn't make that decision, he's just the guy who delivered the message

The opposite even that`s the point of this whole scene.

As in the Wire, the game is the game. Only the players and environments change. It doesn’t matter if we’re good or evil - unless we are born very financially lucky, we must play.

Yep, surprisingly there is one thing in common with hardline communism and pure capitalism... complete disregard for individual people.

Or the Democratic Party in 2023 USA.