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Serum total homocysteine concentrations in adolescent and adult Americans: results from the third National Health and Nutrition Examination Survey
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Association between Homocysteine Levels and All-cause Mortality: A Dose-Response Meta-Analysis of Prospective Studies
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Hyperhomocysteinemia as a Risk Factor and Potential Nutraceutical Target for Certain Pathologies
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Glycine Metabolism and Its Alterations in Obesity and Metabolic Diseases
pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31208...
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Link to an earlier experiment for betaine (TMG) on homocysteine:
Reducing Homocysteine? Updates.
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@conqueragingordietrying1797
To figure out how much glycine to supplement with, I used cronometer to determine my average daily glycine intake that corresponded to each homocysteine test, and then investigated the corresponding regression equation. Although the correlation was just outside of statistical significance (r=-0.36, p=0.09), I can still use the corresponding regression as a rough estimate of how much daily glycine to take. That equation is: Homocysteine = -1.36 *average daily glycine intake +15.4 I then aimed for a homocysteine target of 7.5 umol/L, which is close to my levels in youth, and based on the regression equation, I'd need about 6g of glycine/d to get there (assuming that correlation = causation, of course). Based on cronometer's values, my daily average for glycine is ~4g/d, which means that I'd need to supplement with an extra 2g/day. We'll see how well this works (or not) with the next blood test, sometime in January!
@paulelkins425
@paulelkins425 Год назад
I'm very interested to see your results! I started supplementing with glycine in Nov at about 3gr/day. I use 1.5gr in my coffee where it provides the added benefit of sweetener replacement. I also add about 1.5gr to my Steel Cut Oats/nuts/chia/hemp/berries breakfast. I started using it to hopefully boost my GSH levels and collagen levels. I'm hoping the increase in collagen will support bone health among other secondary benefits.
@tommyortiz6623
@tommyortiz6623 Год назад
This is awesome you found a way to reduce homocysteine! I’m also going supplement with this starting today!
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@tommyortiz6623 Ah, *maybe found*. We'll see how it goes for the next test in a few weeks...
@ResearcherJournalist
@ResearcherJournalist Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 any updates on your test results with Glycine and Homocysteine?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@ResearcherJournalist Yes, see this video (glycine-homocysteine data starts at 4min 05 sec): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vKSNxpxUBF8.html
@drytropics
@drytropics Год назад
Trimethylglycine (betaine) is often recommended for lowering homocysteine. As the majority of SAM (SAMe) methyl donors are used to create creatine and phosphatidylcholine I take both these as part of my homocysteine-lowering regime. As you would know both have additional health benefits, with 5g of creatine daily seemingly a safe and effective dose. While often just B12 and folate are recommended the methylation cycle also depends on sufficient B6 and B2. I take an activated multi-B which contains methylated folate and B12. To lower my SAH, which builds up in conjunction with rising homocysteine, I take forskolin. SAM is converted into SAH after donating a methyl group, and then is converted into homocysteine in a reversible process (excess homocysteine can be converted back into SAH). There needs to be a balance between SAM and SAH for proper methylation to occur, with excess SAH supressing methylation. Raised SAH may be one reason lowering chronically high levels of blood homocysteine doesn't lead to better health outcomes. So far forskolin is the only supplement I've come across that seems to lower SAH levels. Taking SAMe unfortunately dies not fix the SAM/SAH inbalance as the SAM is converted into SAH. I have taken N-acetylcysteine for a while but recently upped my daily dosage to 5g and added 5g of glycine, as this combination has recently been shown to very effectively raise flagging glutathione levels. I've also recently added 200mg of hyaluronic acid and 10g of hydrolysed collagen peptides, as the science indicates both are effective in rebuilding collagen in the body. I'm not so worried about the outside wrinkles, but need to boost the collagen in my joints and arteries. In my case my raised blood homocysteine levels were genetically high and weren't detected until after it had initiated accelerated atherosclerosis, partly through boosting systemic inflammation and direct damage to the arterial endothelial layer. Homocysteine thiolactone also binds to proteins throughout the body rendering them dysfunctional, so I've tried to autophage away as much damaged cells as possible and now am trying to boost angiogenesis through rebuilding lean muscle. I've read the body can grow new arteries around blockages, but other than some injectable peptides I haven't come across any angiogenesis promoting supplements. Let me know if you can think of anything that could help grow new arteries. Now my blood homocysteine level is low any new arteries I grow should be free of the accelerated athrosclerosis. A Facebook page you may be interested in is Homocysteine Research, as its main aim is to share peer-reviewed scientific research papers relevant to homocysteine.
@jonduringer5848
@jonduringer5848 Год назад
Which injectable peptides have you heard supposedly benefit athero? Have you heard of any injectable peptides that exacerbate athero?
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Год назад
you could also eat enough protein. and try some betaine hcl + pepsin. and leave it at 1g NAC + 5g glycine
@danguzman4676
@danguzman4676 Год назад
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@dorteleiteritz5460
@dorteleiteritz5460 Год назад
@@60-Is-The-New-30 Solid advise, as creatine actually uses magnesium, so you need even more.
@MsElaine122
@MsElaine122 Год назад
Re angiogensis; You might look into HBOT. Many local clinics are offering 1 hr sessions in 1.3ata soft HBOT for $70/hr (here in Atlanta). Buying one has become affordable. We are looking at a sitting style. There are 2-3 FB hbot groups.
@DumbBirb
@DumbBirb Год назад
You're one of my favorite "fight against aging" content creators, thanks for sharing with us your journey ! I'm glad that you decided to use Glycine, I've been supplementing it for a long time. It would be quite interesting to see a list of what supplement you use, and I don't mean only pills and powders but also foods. Like always making sure to eat a few nuts everyday. I've been going through your videos for a while but I think having a quick to read list in the video description would be really nice. Thank you !
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks John Rambo. I post my daily diet on Patreon, and a diet update video will be coming in the next couple of weeks, but here's the most recent video for that: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KI1nGnG1r8c.html
@davidthompson8208
@davidthompson8208 Год назад
Great video! I'm looking forward to getting more of my real data so I can begin to move the needle intentionally and be able to see what things move them in the right direction. Thanks for skating your life and journey and how you think about this goal: it is very illuminating... and motivating!
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks David!
@Awsummm
@Awsummm Год назад
This is a 5* video , well explained and detailed, life saving!!!!……thank you
@kamanashisroy
@kamanashisroy Год назад
Thanks! Best video. Everyone should know statistics.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks Kamanashis Roy, and I agree! I'm not sure that I can get donations on RU-vid-using this site definitely works, though: www.buymeacoffee.com/mlhnrca
@lennydaiglejr3094
@lennydaiglejr3094 9 месяцев назад
At 59 I had a measurement of 14.5; I added methylated Folate and B-12. My number dropped to 7
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 9 месяцев назад
That's great @lennydaiglejr3094! The homocysteine journey hasn't been as straightforward for me, still working out doses.
@ZoomGadget
@ZoomGadget Месяц назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 in his book Upgrade your brain, Patrick Holford says you have to take b6, b9, b12 AND omega 3 DHA/EPA and cholin to lower homoceistein. If just one of these nutritient is missing, you won't reduce homoceisteine.
@OpenlyBritish
@OpenlyBritish 27 дней назад
How long did it take for the drop?
@lennydaiglejr3094
@lennydaiglejr3094 27 дней назад
@@OpenlyBritish Exactly how long I don’t recall . My first blood test was in April of 2021 and the follow up in August; so it was fairly quickly
@OpenlyBritish
@OpenlyBritish 27 дней назад
@@lennydaiglejr3094 Thank you for sharing. My mum (65) tested HCY 15.3, I got her "Seeking Health" brand Homocysteine supplement (B6, B9, B12, TMG), and 2-3 months later she's now 11.48. Just wanted to compare the notes. Are you still using the same supplement?
@weiminyang7206
@weiminyang7206 Год назад
I'm looking forward to seeing your results.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks Weimin Yang!
@tonyprophet3177
@tonyprophet3177 Год назад
Incredible content you create -- well done!! I'm confused with comments on TMG being a circularity to homocysteine but glycine is not -- can you please clarify?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks Tony Prophet. As mentioned in the video, the key is to pull homocysteine downstream-when combined with serine and adequate B6, it will get out of the folate, B12, and TMG cycles, thereby allowing maximal reduction.
@kevineakins5276
@kevineakins5276 Год назад
Excellent video. You show so clearly the key pathways. I remember dr Jonathon Wright, ND recommending glycine for better sleep. Probably due to its beneficial effect on methylation and thus the transition into a state of sleep(?). At what low level of homocysteine does ACM begin to rise? Did you do an earlier video on homocysteine?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks Kevin.Unfortunately, I haven't noticed an impact on sleep with glycine supplementation, but it's possible that 2g isn't enough to move the needle for that. For the ACM data, it looks like ~1-2 umol/L. Yep, if you search "homocysteine" on this channel, there are a few videos...
@jadeceazarfitness
@jadeceazarfitness Месяц назад
Wow your channel is full of gem's
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 Месяц назад
Thanks @jadeceazarfitness, subscribe and click the bell notification!
@jadeceazarfitness
@jadeceazarfitness Месяц назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 already did 🔥
@philipblaauw6296
@philipblaauw6296 Год назад
Thanks for sharing this video with us! Could the cause of the link in all cause mortality and homocysteine not be lower glutathione levels or another mechanism whereby higher homocysteine levels are just a symptom and lowering homocysteine as such will not help...?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Yes, definitely! If serine and B6 are adequate, cysteine will be formed, which is a part of glutathione, and can be incorporated. Cysteine levels decline during aging, which highlights the importance of reducing homocysteine with adequate serine and B6.
@jenniferl8714
@jenniferl8714 11 месяцев назад
That was really interesting. I’d like to know what diet you were on at the time. I’m wondering if a keto diet solves all the fundamental issues.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 11 месяцев назад
Hey @jenniferl8714, I'm not on a keto diet, but my diet isn't low fat, either-fat is ~40% of total calories. Full diet info is here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-51sSUu0PabU.html
@ollymounara605
@ollymounara605 10 месяцев назад
You could still be low in vitamin B6 and zinc if you've got pyroles disorder. It will distribute more of that out of the body.
@larsnystrom6698
@larsnystrom6698 Год назад
Mortality increases with age. Homocysteine increases with age. ==> Mortality increases with Homocysteine. Causality? Is the mortality cased by age or by Homocysteine? Or both?
@jefflittle8913
@jefflittle8913 2 месяца назад
Homocysteine is associated with stiff arteries and higher incidence of heart issues. Obviously some people live very long lives with a number of different heart issues, but they are the ones that beat the odds. As far as the age thing, vegans develop problems if they are short B-12 and meat eaters develop problems if they are short folate, for example from greens, and everybody has issues related to the AA pathway (sorry, I don't remember the details. The serine pathway above is a new one for me.
@icebox_Intruder
@icebox_Intruder Год назад
I'm 44 and had my HCY tested for the first time in February: 7.2, and I don't take any of the stuff you mentioned, but I do take enough stuff to fill gaps. HOWEVER, I recently realized my collagen supplement (which Ive taken pretty regularly for a few years) has 2.6g of glycine per serving. The caveat is that I only take half a serving per day and, probably doesn't play into it, but also only dose 4 or 5 days a week on average. Do you think thats a contributor (obviously, without knowing anything else I take)? I recently kinda started taking glyNAC (I've been taking NAC for about 18months) before bed (~400mg); I say "kinda" because its a magnesium glycinate, not pure glycine. So, "mag glyNAC." Is that similar?
@shubhamvibhuti
@shubhamvibhuti 8 месяцев назад
No
@DavidPaulNewtonScott
@DavidPaulNewtonScott Год назад
There is an underproduction of glycine to support collagen. My strategy is to consome collagen and top up with glycine to flush out the homocystine. That begs the question how much glycine? I suspect it may not be much.
@Always-xl9db
@Always-xl9db Год назад
I am taking L-Serine along with Glycine and NAC for glutathione synthesis, before bedtime.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Are you doing that to impact sleep? I don't notice a difference for my sleep quality or duration with more glycine.
@alices4105
@alices4105 Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 I had major problems with sleep. I fixed it for good by taking the following supplements before bedtime: Magnesium Glycinate, Magnesium L-Threonate, B1, NAC, L-Serine and that worked like a charm. I started to take extra Glycine on top of that just to make sure I have enough in the system readily available for NAC and, hence, glutathione synthesis…and no, it did not make me more sleepy, or improved sleep quality, I think magnesiums and L-Serine did all the heavy lifting, also NAC that decreases cortisol.
@vipulgupta
@vipulgupta Год назад
@@alices4105 Can you pls mention your dosages
@reforesters
@reforesters Год назад
Note that after I found out about the downsides of having high homocysteine from your site, i checked mine and it was in fact high - at 15.6. I subesequently started with "Homocysteine Resist" from Life Extension. Following the start of that routine my homocysteine quickly dropped to 9.x and has stayed there. A couple of thoughts about that move versus your idea to start Glycine. 1) Aside from a deficiency in Folate/ B12/ B6 causing high homocysteine, have you considered the opposite, that a surplus of those vitamins might have a drug-like impact lowing HCY more than simply maintaining adequate levels? Note that Life Extensions products provide far in excess of RDA - for example 41000% the RDA of b12 for example. 2) The LE product also has B2, but I didn't see you mention it. Possible that is another required vitamin for keeping HCY low?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Hey @Think Supersystemic, I'm happy to hear that you've reduced your homocysteine! While high doses of methyl-B12 may bring mine down, that's also significantly correlated with a lot of biomarkers going in the wrong direction. To your point yes, which is why I'm trying to go away from supraphysiological levels (i.e. B12), and towards other means for bringing homocysteine down. Glycine may be a better bet (for me), as I'm not deficient in any of the 3 vitamins mentioned in the video.
@reforesters
@reforesters Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 Looking forward to your progress reports on glycine/HCY. Which biomarkers have you seen go in the wrong direction with too high on B12? I did stop homocysteine resist recently because of high b12 levels. Would be good know which other biomarkers I should check in on.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@reforesters See 36:00 in this video for the B12 biomarker correlations (in my data, it may be different for you, though): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MveGH4xNwmU.html
@rwh4114
@rwh4114 Год назад
I take 2 Magnesium Glycinate caps per day which provides approximately 2Gs of Glycine. So I get 2 supps I want in the same pill. 60 y.o. male with 9.2 of homocysteine on most recent blood test.
@mmortal03
@mmortal03 Год назад
I take the Doctor's Best product, for example. It's 2000 mg magnesium glycinate lysinate, of which 200 mg is elemental magnesium. Not sure how much of the remainder is glycine versus lysine.
@rwh4114
@rwh4114 Год назад
@@mmortal03 There is no lysine. It's formulated with Mg and Glycine, no lysine in it. Possibly a small amount of filler.
@pariodeusex
@pariodeusex Год назад
serine may also be reducing Homocysteine uptake in addition to influencing the metabolism of it. Glycine was also shown to reduce Homocysteine in this study> "Inhibition of homocysteine-induced endoplasmic reticulum stress and endothelial cell damage by l-serine and glycine" PMID: 27064126
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Yep, thanks for that!
@les0nick
@les0nick Год назад
Did you have a chance to look at the recent studies on Glycine and N-Acetylcysteine (GlyNAC)?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
There are videos for those papers on this channel...
@les0nick
@les0nick Год назад
Thanks. Found it!
@MichaelAmen316
@MichaelAmen316 10 месяцев назад
L-Glycine vs Glycine (free form) - which do you recommend?
@joeylodes
@joeylodes 4 месяца назад
A+
@omnimesh4096
@omnimesh4096 9 месяцев назад
Should I supplement glycine or TMG? How do I calculate how much?
@monnoo8221
@monnoo8221 Год назад
hi there, as always very impressive... question: you stick very much to the RDA... usually you try to get 2..4 times more than recommended. Well, the RDA for vit C is 70 mg, which is way too low, similar for vit D3, ... so here, given that B vitamins are very hard to get overdosed, a selective increase of B6 seems the only logical drain. Th rest of the metabolism is part of a big network, which is probably hard to move regarding its "set points" Which brings me to another point, s.o. else already mentioned. Physiology is about a logistical and informational network, simply increasing all good stuff way above RDA may not have an effect. It is about the state of the whole thingy, and a differential supplementation. That is, the individuality of a particular physiological system is better described by a profile, not by a collection of single items. Such profiles can be evaluated using machine learning. I did that already 16y ago in various medical contexts...
@conqueragingordietrying1797
I don't stick to the RDA, I follow the correlations for diet with blood biomarkers. There is no hard-and-fast rule for how much above the RDA, it varies based on the correlations. For ex, in my case, 2.5x the RDA for niacin, but 18x the RDA (or AI) for Vitamin K.
@adm129100
@adm129100 Год назад
Are you also considering NAC to go with Glycine ?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Nope-as mentioned in the video, if I'm able to reduce homocysteine with glycine, then I expect an increase in cysteine (NAC is used as a source of cysteine).
@justsaying7065
@justsaying7065 Год назад
Great video. 2g of glycine is a very low dose. You may get more benefits (other than lowering homocysteine) from taking a higher dose. By the way, it would be great if you could do a vlog of grocery shopping - so we can see what foods you buy.
@jackbuaer3828
@jackbuaer3828 Год назад
He has done several videos that show the foods he eats and their respective amounts. Hint: He could be called the Strawberry King. Mushroom King could also be another moniker. These names have more appeal (to me) than a name like Liver King. I am not sure that watching him push around a cart at a store would add much to our collective knowledge. I might watch such a video if he added some additional entertainment value. Perhaps he could develop a character (e.g. Mushroom King or Strawberry King)? I am guessing that the above suggestion would not go over too well in the Research and Academic communities.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Ha jack, I don't like the "Strawberry King or Mushroom King" names. Blood Testing King maybe better? Ha, as long as I break the human longevity record, that's most important.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks @Just Saying. The key is to impact homocysteine without messing up anything else-with a higher dose, that may not be the case. In the pinned comment, I show why 2g may be sufficient.
@justsaying7065
@justsaying7065 Год назад
I know what foods he eats. It’s fun to watch vlogs. You’ll be surprised how popular vlogs are. Also, it’s better for the channel to provide a variety of videos, rather than one format. It will help this channel grow.
@jackbuaer3828
@jackbuaer3828 Год назад
@@justsaying7065 Okay, but if he shops, I think he should add some pizazz to the video. Perhaps if he had a troop of dancers following him while he shopped? I am not sure how we could work a longevity theme into that. I'll keep thinking about this.
@barasra8847
@barasra8847 Год назад
Your blood test is really good, if you have added Lp(a) would be complete. Can i add this test in addition?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Hey Baras Ra, I've added Lp(a) to every test for the past few years, and track it in conjunction with diet.
@barasra8847
@barasra8847 Год назад
Hi sorry I don't see Lp(a) in home test kit(Siphonix). Am i looking in wrong place?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@barasra8847 Lp(a) is not in the Siphox Health kit-in contrast, I add Lp(a) by venipunctiure to all my blood tests, that's what I though you meant. ApoB is included in their kit, which includes coming from Lp(a).
@JohnDoe-os3mc
@JohnDoe-os3mc Год назад
would higher levels of b12, b6 and b9 increase the rate of conversion to methionine?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Hey John Doe, I covered that in this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-MwtsA391OZ0.html
@lostpianist
@lostpianist 2 месяца назад
What are the role(s) of homocysteine in the body?
@kto-totam2876
@kto-totam2876 4 месяца назад
What to do if it homocysteine dropped to 3 after taking methylated form of b12? How to increase homocysteine because feel terrible and aged fast.
@deanrobinson2459
@deanrobinson2459 Год назад
I wonder if you will/have noticed skin improvements with glycine.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
It's only been about 2 weeks, so not yet...I do have dry skin in the winter, and so far, there's no improvement for that. I'd bet that humidity in the winter impacts dry skin more than glycine, though.
@neilquinn
@neilquinn Год назад
Have you investigated using riboflavin/other B vitamins to reduce homocysteine for people with the MTHFR variant?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Nope, not yet
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK Год назад
Try taking L-methyl folate to convert the expected molecules into an actual finished reaction process. There is a long discussion here on 12:38.... ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qvNLNl7oJnM.html I've experimented with Solar's "chelated magnesium" (bi-glycinate) before, and this helped me. So.. I also do wonder if I also have the MTHFR varient also. I know I have endo. I've bought a 23andMe kit, but have not done it yet, to see what issues I've got. Then I know which varient, and therefore the percentages that it is impacted or not etc. Now I get why these specific supplements exists in my local health food stores.
@neilquinn
@neilquinn Год назад
@@MeiinUK Thanks will look into it. I have some b12 but not sure how much it matters.
@MeiinUK
@MeiinUK Год назад
@@neilquinn : It matters a lot. You will feel a lot better if you complete the chemical reaction that is supposed to happen in the body. When you don't... Diseases surfaces and the life span shortens etc. And for a woman... fertility doesn't happen basically. Some people say that eating certain food helps. Which is true. But in today's global food chain ? Can you always get those food at the drop of a hat ? No. So the supplements is a back up plan is how I see things.
@neilquinn
@neilquinn Год назад
@@MeiinUK I'll look into it. I have the strongest MTHFR mutation.
@newdata
@newdata Год назад
lowering methonine could also do the trick
@KJ-um1gq
@KJ-um1gq Год назад
Was there a follow up on this, doc?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Hey K J, that data was in this video, starting at 4:05 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vKSNxpxUBF8.html
@KJ-um1gq
@KJ-um1gq Год назад
Hi Doc. I found that one last night. Have you been able to identify a possible method to reduce homocysteine yet?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@KJ-um1gq Besides B12, not yet. But the next hypothesis is that serine + B6 should work,-it's just a question of the right dosage to reduce homocysteine without messing up anything else. Currently on that regimen now, video coming probably next week with the mechanism.
@sranney1
@sranney1 Год назад
Does niacin increase this
@oceanistoosmall
@oceanistoosmall 7 месяцев назад
Absolutely
@LaneCodeRedCarnivore
@LaneCodeRedCarnivore Год назад
Glysophate effects glycine , see Stephanie Senoff . Wheat and oats are highly sprayed at harvest to dry / desicate the plants.
@LaneCodeRedCarnivore
@LaneCodeRedCarnivore Год назад
And if they used cereal that would effect results of the study.
@TheShumoby
@TheShumoby Год назад
I'm 46 and my husband is 50, both our homocysteine 6.4
@nahidbodiz7053
@nahidbodiz7053 Год назад
Can we reverse methylated DNA with TMG? If TMG helps with Methylation , does it mean it increases biological age?
@chronicallywhatever
@chronicallywhatever 7 месяцев назад
No, TMG and methyl donors only drive up methylation. You would want to look into HDAC inhibitors such as butyrate or genistein, and DNMT inhibitors such as procaine or lidocaine.
@dirkh0
@dirkh0 Год назад
If I don't forget, I take collagen. Glycin is a big part of it (22%). Do you think, pure glycine is much better?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
I wouldn't say better, but I have a specific hypothesis that I'm testing, with glycine as the focus. Would taking collagen be better? Possibly, but I'm not sure
@stefanweilhartner4415
@stefanweilhartner4415 Год назад
if your stomach acid and pepsin level is on point, then collagen gets broken down into the individual amino acids and you are fine.
@brauliobo
@brauliobo Месяц назад
what is the follow up video after glycine supplementation? did it decrease homocysteine?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 Месяц назад
Unfortunately not. I'd suggest watching the biological age (PhenoAge) update videos, as I've been updating experiments for homocysteine (and other biomarkers) there...
@brauliobo
@brauliobo Месяц назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 thanks, will look for them!
@shaunm8692
@shaunm8692 3 месяца назад
Ok, if you are on a budget, and want to reduce Homocysteine but maybe cannot afford a GlyNac (combo) supplement and need to choose between the 2 of them (Glycine OR NAC) : Which one of them is more effective (per mg) in reducing Homocysteine levels ? (specifically in the context of an elderly person - 80+ years old)
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 3 месяца назад
I'm not sure, but the only way to know is to test. Even if one makes a bet on one vs the other, testing to find out is essential
@shaunm8692
@shaunm8692 3 месяца назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 Thanks for that !
@stellarblur
@stellarblur 8 месяцев назад
Less methionine, which leads to less homocystiene which leads one to the inevitable (whole food, plant based,) and working physically everyday
@-Kerstin
@-Kerstin Год назад
When the body makes its own creatine it produces homocysteine as a by-product. Have you looked into creatine supplementation to bring down homocysteine? This study might be interesting doi: 10.1111/fcp.12442.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Creatine is also on the short list, with glycine, for future homocysteine experiments. Thanks for the suggestion, Kerstin!
@toomanymarys7355
@toomanymarys7355 Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 Since you are almost vegetarian, you should know that homocysteine is ALWAYS high in vegans unless they supplement with creatine.
@lindapestridge3073
@lindapestridge3073 Год назад
@@toomanymarys7355 I've been a vegetarian for 20yrs and i did'nt know that.
@rdance3
@rdance3 Месяц назад
Propionyl-CoA Carboxylase (Biotin) should also be considered.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 Месяц назад
is there published evidence that it reduces homocysteine?
@rdance3
@rdance3 Месяц назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 No, but I've read that reduced Propionyl-CoA Carboxylase avitivy will lead to abnormally low MMA readings suggesting an inhibited Transsulfuration Pathway.
@ericoshea9382
@ericoshea9382 Год назад
Fascinating. I really hope glycine is effective in reducing your homocysteine
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Thanks Eric!
@darkhorseman8263
@darkhorseman8263 Год назад
There are a lot of factors that are related to homocysteine levels. Methylmalonic acid from protein digestion and metabolism, vitamin B12 status, P5P, Riboflavin, Nucleotide status, etc. There are many pathways that break down, and many unconventional nutritional deficits, with aging.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Yes, there are a lot of relevant factors-I covered a few of the pathways in the video, and am going after the most likely culprits first.
@davidthompson8208
@davidthompson8208 Год назад
This is interesting. As a part of my longevity protocol I've been focusing on increasing my natural HGH (similar to the TRIM protocol + DHEA and Berberine (sub for metformin), and my natural T levels... which involves a lot of weight lifting and protein intake on those days. Based on your note about that by product of protein digestion, would it make sense to up my B12 on those days as well to limit that impact on homocystine?
@darkhorseman8263
@darkhorseman8263 Год назад
@@davidthompson8208 Methylmalonic Acid levels have been shown to be a big driver of aging, and shortened lifespan in people who eat high protein diets. Folate and B12 break it down, but supplementation with folate has been shown to make methylmalonic levels worse in old people, as opposed to young people, and they don't know why. B12 seems to normalize this dysfunction. Opening the door to the fact b12 and folate levels should be balanced in the elderly; folate in isolation, can make them worse.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@davidthompson8208 I'm not sure, but doing the experiment, and tracking blood test results would be the way to find out...
@azbat3829
@azbat3829 Год назад
At the 7:50 mark you said you would have a blood test in Jan for glycine, after supplementing, what was the result?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Hey AZBat, here's that video (see 4:04): ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vKSNxpxUBF8.html Glycine didn't reduce homocysteine, tldr, but I'm going to start serine+B6 tonight when it arrives via mail.
@randyalbertsw1992
@randyalbertsw1992 Год назад
My homocysteine typically ran 12-18. With methyl B vitamins this dropped to 9. With 8 g glycine and 8,000 mg NAC it is now
@conqueragingordietrying1797
I'm not sure that too low is a factor for homocysteine-as shown in the video, all-cause mortality risk increases starting at very low levels of homocysteine.
@jackbuaer3828
@jackbuaer3828 Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 Low homocysteine (hypohomocysteinemia) has been called out as a risk. I have seen it stated that individuals with low homocysteine (under 4.0) have limited capacity for response to oxidative stress and certain kinds of toxin exposure.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@jackbuaer3828 Can you post that link, jack, as it disagrees with the ACM meta-analysis data.
@jackbuaer3828
@jackbuaer3828 Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 This is actually more concerning if accurate, since the numbers below do not represent low homocysteine. "Results During the follow-up period (mean = 5.4 years, SD = 0.9), dementia and AD developed in 85 and 64 participants, respectively. Not only the participants with high serum tHcy (≥10.6 μmol/L) but also those with low serum tHcy (≤8.9 μmol/L) were 4-5 times more likely to develop dementia and AD compared to those with serum tHcy levels between 9.0 and 10.5 μmol/L. With the increase in serum tHcy concentration, the use of vitamin supplements decreased, and 41.2% of the participants with low serum tHcy (≤8.9 μmol/L) were taking vitamin supplements. Conclusions Not only hyperhomocysteinemia but also hypohomocysteinemia considerably increased the risk of dementia and AD in older adults. The risk of dementia that results from overuse or misuse of vitamin supplements should be acknowledged and homocysteine-lowering health policies should be tailored to consider dementia risks that are associated with hypohomocysteinemia." Jong Bin Bae, Ji Won Han, Junghan Song, Kyunghoon Lee, Tae Hui Kim, Kyung Phil Kwak, Bong Jo Kim, Shin Gyeom Kim, Jeong Lan Kim, Seok Woo Moon, Joon Hyuk Park, Seung-Ho Ryu, Jong Chul Youn, Dong Young Lee, Dong Woo Lee, Seok Bum Lee, Jung Jae Lee, Jin Hyeong Jhoo, Ki Woong Kim, Hypohomocysteinemia may increases the risk of dementia and Alzheimer's disease: A nationwide population-based prospective cohort study, Clinical Nutrition, Volume 40, Issue 7, 2021,
@jackbuaer3828
@jackbuaer3828 Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 See Significance of Low Plasma Homocysteine Richard S. Lord, Ph.D. and Kara Fitzgerald, N.D. It does not appear to be a peer reviewed paper.
@jeffrey4577
@jeffrey4577 11 месяцев назад
@deep6301
@deep6301 8 месяцев назад
RDA??? REALLY
@hollyrotnes8743
@hollyrotnes8743 11 месяцев назад
Maybe homocysteine increases with age because only the people with elevated homocysteine survive.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 11 месяцев назад
Survivor bias, definitely possible
@zakhariahk.8720
@zakhariahk.8720 Год назад
Glycine will help but it s not enough ...
@conqueragingordietrying1797
I don't know if it will help, we'll see on the next text, but why do you think it isn't enough?
@lindapestridge3073
@lindapestridge3073 Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 Now i really want to know why Glycine might not be enough.
@chrisc6494
@chrisc6494 Год назад
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 Studies shows it has to be balanced, not enough as too much can cause lot of damage. I said it's not enough because other AA are linked with anti age process.
@ihbarddx
@ihbarddx Год назад
A ridiculously large number of things are correlated with time. All of those things are correlated with each other. The Dow Jones average is correlated with time. Cumulative rainfall in the Amazon is correlated with time. Homocysteine levels are correlated with time. All cause mortality is correlated with time. So... Hell with glycine supplementation! Let's reduce rainfall - being careful not to crash the stock market, of course!
@fine_gold
@fine_gold 3 месяца назад
too myopic. supplementing with 2g of glycine a day, missing a day and then supplementing with 4g, for 39 days, is not going to "lower homocysteine". glycine is used for so many different things, the 2g you took wouldnt be used on what you think it should be used on, its going to be used for collagen synthesis and neurotransmission
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 3 месяца назад
lol on the myopic, that's an interesting choice of words when considering the abundance of new hypotheses on this channel. Rather than what might happen, I did the experiment, and glycine didn't impact my homocysteine.
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
Sorry but I thought Methionine should get converted into Glutathione, the antioxidant, in the liver, so adding in Betaine should be fine.
@conqueragingordietrying1797
Methionine doesn't get converted into glutathione, which instead includes glutamate, cysteine, and glycine. Adding betaine will reduce homocysteine but increase methionine, which may be bad for longevity based on animal studies for methionine restriction.
@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794
@@conqueragingordietrying1797 OK, thanks. What happens to the Methionine? As you implied that can be over-produced by too much Betaine, so why is it that a problem ?
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@@zerotoleranceforsataniceli4794 See this video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--Tev0ycCnAQ.html
@hai.1820
@hai.1820 7 месяцев назад
What the heck?? You did not answer the question!
@conqueragingordietrying1797
@conqueragingordietrying1797 7 месяцев назад
I didn't in this video, but in a video after that I mentioned that it didn't work: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-vKSNxpxUBF8.html
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