Will Hogwarts Legacy Be CANON? | Harry Potter Game Theory 

But have you seen the footage from the Common rooms?! It's the only thing thats ever made me wanna be in Ravenclaw...

Honestly I think it's a huge missed opportunity not to have an alive Professor Binns teaching History Of Magic During the Goblin Rebellion he would later teach over and over again

My thought on why the main character was only now joining Hogwarts in their 5th year is because they were homeschooled, or maybe they transferred from another school. Maybe something happened to their parents so they couldn't be homeschooled anymore, or had to move to Scotland or England to live with family and so had to switch.

"Jo, did you put McGonnagle in the prequel to Potter?!" ~Dumbledore, shouting calmly

Usually Official Canon is considered in a few parts: Primary canon: The main body of work from the author, in this case the main series books. Secondary canon: Supplementary works from the author (I would classify Cursed Child as secondary canon as it came after the main series and is a world expansion) same with the movie adaptations, Fantastic Beasts and Pottermore articles. Tertiary Canon: This consists of works not from the original author, third party sources, either with or without the authors blessing in regards to it's canonicity. If there is an event, piece of information, or anything else, in which two sources of canon conflict, the secondary canon takes precedence over tertiary canon and primary takes precedence over secondary. The Cursed Child is considered to be Secondary Canon, which means that if something in the Cursed Child contradicts something in the main series books the main series books take precedence, so yes you are allowed to consider much of the Cursed Child as non-canon because Primary canon takes precedence in cases of conflict. All of this is to say, Hogwarts legacy would fit under Tertiary Canon, and could be considered canon as long as it's not contradicted by secondary or primary canon. If something in Hogwarts Legacy makes a decision that Rowling or others who have been given the approval to speak with the voice of the wizarding world universe don't approve of, they can create a piece of secondary canon to establish precedence over that particular aspect of the worlds lore. The above is for Official Canon, there's also Head Canon/Personal Canon, what you consider to be canon, it's very lose and you can consider whatever you wish to be canon to you, but others may consider other pieces in their head canon, Official Canon is meant to be an objective canon following the above.

I love the elder scrolls approach to the canon state of player involvement in games. The titular Elder Scrolls themselves are used as tools for prophecy or history. They are what the fabric of reality is written on and there is an elder scroll for every possible future. So every time you the player create a new character in a vanilla elder scrolls game, there canonically is an elder scroll that describes that specific character you made, and all the actions you'll take in the imperial archives. So all characters you make in skyrim are canon. This is definitely not how it's gonna work for hogwarts legacy but it's a really fun solution regardless.

If they cancel the Fantastic Beasts franchise, I’ll be pretty devastated. It’s not like the films thus far have been so fantastic, but the whole lead up was for the ultimate fight between Grindelwald and Dumbledore. And if we don’t even get that, what was it all for? And to leave Newt and Tina‘s relationship unsolved? It just all feels so incomplete.

Anyone else want a TV series based on the beginning of hogwarts ?

Can't wait for "Carlin brothers gaming: Harry Potter" and their fan theories about it

THATS JUST A THEORY.. A GAME THEORY (sorry i had to when i saw that title)

I really hope that the guys who develop the game pay the math budget and don't put McGonagall into this one too

I don't think that was accidental. Uncle Algie threw Neville out the window to check if he was magical!

About meeting Albus as a 1 year student and Dumbledore being able to sense ancient magic - it would be cool if he would learn it from games main character in final adventures :D

I love the idea that your character is the first person to (re)discover ancient magic that turns out to be a patronus or something like that, which then becomes RELATIVELY mainstream in the OG books/movies canon because your character discovered it a hundred years previous in the timeline

Need to see Ben & J playing through this game, love to hear thoughts and opinions. Plus Slytherin Common room entrance is amazing * Jay

Just a note, Rowling didn't write Cursed Child--she just took a paycheck and sanctioned it. It's fanfiction done poorly.

this is the exact reason i wanted you guys to cover this game, your knowledge of the harry potter francise is amazing. the youtubers who cover this game are good but you guys just know sooooooo much more lore wise so i appreciate this. i'd watch a series of you guys playing this game for sure!!!

At this point I've given up on the debate of what is and isn't canon in the HP universe. The books are easy, and the movies to some extent, but everything else I just treat as an extra interpretation of the original works. Currently the tiktok Marauders fandom has a better defined canon than most new official HP releases

You should do a gameplay of Hogwarts Legacy with J and Ben

I hope there is an achievement for getting the true canon ending. Like choosing the right house and path. I'd love to see it pop up "Canon"

I would definitely consider Hogwarts Mystery canon, its a narrative driven story that doesn't conflict existing canon (mostly). Like the quidditch storyline is vague and doesn't make a bunch of sense, and some of the holiday events are a bit wonky but other than that it doesn't seem different than Hogwarts Legacy considering the story can vary based on player decisions.

I've started playing this game and several times I thought you all should make a video on something said or done in the game. Looking forward to all the content you all created because of this game haha Play through of you all playing it would be awesome as well!!!

I would like to see what the other house relics did before Voldemort taint them with Dark magic.

i just remembered after watching this video that hermione mentions the goblin rebellion in book 3. Something about it happening in hogsmeade, and looking at hogwart's legacy site, it looks, that goblin rebellion will be a big plot point

In my opinion, there’s 1. Book canon 2. Movie canon Pottermore is canon in both, and stage plays and fanfic are canon in neither. Not sure where the games land…

I really hope Fantastic Beasts continues for at least 1 more film. I just think we need to wrap up all of the loose ends.

you guys 100% have to cover this game, the plot, and the side quests. This game also adds so much lore and information. plus, you can crank out a ton of content based on this game alone.

Can't wait to play this game! sucks it was postponed but good so they can clean up whatever they had issues with. The comments about Dumbledore teaching DA, just cause he is teaching it that day doesn't mean he is the DA teacher. He could have just been filling in like Snape did for Lupen.

im just so happy the ravenclaw colors and mascot are correct in here in every detail 😭 it looks majestic and dreamy 💙🦅

I wonder if ancient magic is just magic done before there were wands.

I am SUPER hyped for this game. From what I have seen the Developers really care about the wizarding world!

I just imagine at 8:36 the game devs furiously taking notes to include those events in the game last minute

Will you guys be playing the game on Super Carlin Gaming? I know I’d love to see J or Ben do a play though of it!

Lowkey gonna miss the annual SCB thanksgiving video where I dip from the family gathering to watch it

I knew you guys would touch on this eventually! are you guys as pumped as I am to just explore the castle in whatever house you wish and have it actually be you?!?

If there is going to be the opportunity to play an “evil” ending, I can’t wait to play normally and then do an evil ending just for fun

I hope you make a follow up to this video! Now that the games been out and you guys have obviously beaten it and found every awesome detail, even just to summarize your thoughts on the experience! I'd love it!

I feel like they choose a period so far back that it doesn't really matter? But either way im just looking forward to what is hopefully an amazing Harry Potter game :D

Here is a question I don't think you've explored: What if Tom Riddle did resurrect in Chamber of Secrets ? Would there be two Voldemorts since the one that "returns" later was always "lurking somewhere" ?

Can you guys do more videos on this. I've been trying to work out how the named characters could be related to hp characters. And wondered why we don't meet a potter or a malfoy and not even a Easter egg of Percivals arrest

You could also be a late student at Hogwarts by…transferring from some place like Ilvermorny

Finally! I’ve been waiting to hear the Carlin’s talk about Hogwarts Legacy!!

my personal head canon for why Dumbledore was teaching defence against the dark arts in the crimes of grindelwald is that he was covering for the DATDA teacher, who was too ill to teach that day and so, seeing as Dumbledore is arguably the greatest wizard of all time - very talented - he decided to help out and cover the lesson, in a similar way Snape did for Lupin in prisoner

I’m really curious if you will be playing the new game when it comes out on the gaming channel??

Hogwarts Mystery is Canon and we face this same issue. The best I can tell is that being in Slytherin is the canon house, and the canon way to refer to the player character is as Jacob's Sibling. Also, the books and movies are just separate canons. Book canon is primary, movie canon is secondary. My personal headcanon about Cursed Child is that it's a literal play in the movies' canon, one in which the playwright takes tremendous liberties and dramatic flourishes while writing about these publicly known figures.

Theory: the One ring from the Lord of the Rinds is a Horcrux. But better thought out than Voldemort's Horcruxes.

FINALLY! I asked months ago if y'all were going to cover the game AT ALL.

I would love the idea that the journal, that Mrs. Weasly and the teachers prepared for you, would be the source of the marauders map. I mean, you have a minimap, can track questgivers.. would make sense if the journal will be demolished at one time and the map part will be the pergament the Marauders create the map of..

At this point JK effed up her own cannon so much I honestly don't think it matters! I'm just grateful to have an open world HP game. Being 34 and still in love with gaming and HP this made my childhood heart so happy!

FINNAAALLLLLLY I honestly never thought this was going to happen. Thank you guys so much for covering this game! I'm so excited!

Don Weasley noticing the Chudley Cannons pin on Chow Chang: "Where you always a fan of the Chudley Cannons or only recently when they are about to come out on top ?! "

Really excited for this one! Though I still really hope they release the last two FB movies at some point

ngl Im kinda hoping for a Supercarlinbrothers Lets Play of Hogwarts Legacy, it would be really cool to see each of you play your own character in their house & see if you guys end up making the same choices or vastly different ones!!!

what if the reason dumbledore CAN detect ancient magic is due to us in hogwarts legacy

Another thing to think about is in the achievements of the game, one of them says to “obtain a deathly hallow” (most likely it’ll be the elder wand since that’s the only one we don’t really know the full path on) but it’ll definitely be interesting to see how they handle the story of such an important item like that.

Maybe it will be considered as kinda a tale, a bit like that of the three brothers you know, based on events that are considered real in the canon, but still a story that wizard would read in a book or something. That would allow developers to have more freedom in the creative processed while still being canon.

Really excited for this game, can’t wait to see how it’ll turn out!

I have a suggestion for a theory . Why Jamse or lily weren't the seceret kipper for themselves??? Because Bill and Arthur weasley did it in the last book🤔

4:53-5:00 well, Snape is usually the Potions teacher, but he had to substitute for Remus Lupin as Defense Against The Dark Arts at one point in Book 3. So Dumbledore, at that time, could be substituting for Newt's DADA teacher

16:42 is actually hilarious

Hopefully it won't involve time turners a lot because every time they are involved, the plot and world building get dicey. Also, time travel and the time turners are never explained in that much detail, so maybe there are larger, overarching rules to them that we just aren't aware of that make all of the seeming inconsistencies actually be consistent.

Are you guys going to play through on the gaming channel

I already couldn't wait to play this game but now that I know you will also be making videos about it makes me super excited to explore more of the lore!

I really wish that they gave us an update now that the game is out…so much to unpack there, especially considering how many times they dedicated videos to the vail and vail like object we see in the game

I fully agree that the game will be canon, as they have delved into the books and films many many times, consulting jk's team to ensure that anything they explore, touch or play with remains authentic. Based off of what i've seen thus far, they have done a phenomenal job. I am most excited to explore the castle, its grounds and the world, ready to find all the secrets and solve all its puzzles. The castle looks amazing, so real. I've wished I was a student like the main characters of the books for ages, and now, to be able to walk it at my own pace.....its going to be awesome.

J needs to do a Pokémon Scarlet and Violet nuzlocke

My take: Head of House (Alpha) Canon: The original seven novels. The core of the lore. Prefect (Beta) Canon: Any officially publish works based on Alpha Canon. This includes both movie series, the play, and all spin off books. Peeves (Delta) Canon: Everything not officially publish. This category is not even really canon, but more of an acknowledgement of its existence.

I think sequels to games like this can keep going back a couple hundred years to make sure that there is enough time between to limit plot holes by eliminating a lot of known characters for age reasons and there is enough unknown time that our imaginations can fill in the gaps. Also we can have games centered around other wizarding schools

why haven’t you guys made any videos about the game since this?

I'm so excited to get this on switch and I hope they do not stop fantastic beasts

Im guessing the ancient magic might be used to explain tutorial style hints of some hidden doors and stuff Because otherwise you would have no reason to do the awesome stuff and instead you just play a school simulator This might be even used as a motive to attack you if the bad guys find out about how special you are Also helps to explain why you have the room of requirement as your special room unlike other students

Thanks for clarifying this aspect that the game would bring to the Wizarding World, I’m soooo excited to play it😁 the RavenClaw commen room looks amazing 💙

Are you playing? Will you post game play.

Can we get an updated video now that the game is out?

IM SO GLAD YOU GUYS COVERED THIS GAME IVE BEEN ASKING FOR SO LONG 😭 it's got so much to add to the Wizarding world!!

Will you be having a series of this game on the gaming channel? Like with pokemon?

We waiting for an update video guys

Was anyone else disappointed that they didnt do a hogwarts legacy lets play on their other channel?

Jeff leach who voices "ghost" in call of duty is doing the voice for "peeves " and I can't wait 😊

Chudley Cannons, Chudley Cannons, boom boom boom, we are not pirates.

It will be awesome if yall play the game

I'm so excited for this game 😊

WB Discovery has made the official announcement. Fantastic Beasts is cancelled. We won't get the epic duel between Dumbledore and Grindelwald. However, they did say they would focus on Harry Potter itself, so we might get a series remake.

When are you guys making a video talking about the things in the game, like references to the original movies and such?

can you play hogwarts legacy on your gaming channel

I wish J.K would write more wizarding books.

A cool little thing (on the No-Maj/Muggle side of the world in 1893) could be even a passing reference to the World Expo/Fair in Chicago that year. Like, if a Muggle when the character is in London could reference it, or maybe a news clipping. For all we know, wizards would be interested potentially because of the technology unveiled at it.

Id like to see this revisited after they played the games. See theyre opinions on it now that its been out for awhile. My fiancée has been a harry potter fan since she was young and she said this is the literally every fan has been waiting for

Please make another video about hogwarts' legacy now that it's been out for a while

I’m so excited for this game. I preordered it.

Interestingly enough, the video games that were released when the movies were coming out do offer some canon, because they'd need to run things by J.K. Rowling. For instance, people often chide the games for adding a spell called Flipendo (aka the Knockback Jinx) that doesn't appear in the books or movies, at least not by that name. In reality, it was a spell provided by the author for the game devs to use as a simple pushing spell that first years at Hogwarts learn. (The devs were also provided with Alohomora, Wingardium Leviosa, Lumos, and Incendio as other first year spells.) Check out Flandrew's interview with Harry Potter PC game developer Christo Vuchetich! And that's not forgetting how the content of the 101 Wizard Cards premiered with the games, also written by J.K. Rowling.

I personally think it’s gonna be one of those games where it’s so awesome to the point where we wish it was canon,like force unleashed 1 &2

are one carlin brothers ever gonna play hogwarts legacy?

5:30 completely lost it here LOL

I think the main aspect of the game that would be considered canon would most likly be the goblin rebellian and most of the actions that are involved in the main story overwise i dunno

Another way I've seen videogames handle canon when the player is free to choose things is some of the smaller details weren't important enough to be remembered through history... in one of the Elder Scrolls games you can read in game books about the events of other games & an "unknown hero" who saved the world..... the only events that definitely happened are ones that would happen regardless of player's choices...

Y’all should do a follow up video on this game once you’ve played all the way through

I have a Hogwarts Legacy theory of my own to try out. Solomon Sallow was responsible for the Goblin attack that nearly killed Anne. He resented that he had been forced to care for Sebastian and Anne. He resented having to care for Anne even more because she was weak. I think that he was tired of the burden of caring for someone that he thought would be dead soon anyway. It is rumored that Solomon is no longer an Auror because he used dark magic. It seems to me that Solomon's connection to dark magic was how he somehow made a deal with the goblins. I do not think that Solomon was mad because Sebastian used dark magic. He was mad that Anne was still alive. A real parent would have thanked Sebastian for saving Anne's life and then taught Sebastian that there are better ways of solving your problems than using dark magic. I would have liked to have seen what would have happened if the main character would have killed the goblin with ancient magic. Let's face it. There is only one Harry Potter character that I hate more than Solomon and I think we all know who I am talking about. HEM! HEM!

I wonder why the Carlin Brothers never jumped down the Lord of The Rings rabbit hole? There's so much loooore. The books and movies are kinda really different too.

I've been thinking about this and I think it might be time to give Harry Potter levels of canon like Star Trek. The levels of canon I've come up with are: Alpha Canon: Main 7 Books + Hogwarts Library books + Pottermore Beta Canon: 8 Movies + Fantastic Beasts Delta Canon: Video Games and third-party licensed contributions.