WILL IT CHUG? - RAT DISTORTION 

IT'S WEDNESDAY MY DUDES

@@gibek2600 aaaaAAAAAAAAAA

It doesn't chug just throw it to garbage basket.

Its HUMP DAY!

I got my taxes back, bought a Jackson Rhodes V, Orange amp and called in sick. Damn right it’s a Wednesday.

I want to see this lol.

It won’t chug but it’ll peel the paint off the walls...

It is rumored to achieve time travel via sonic dissolution of nearby musicians. They come back changed.

Yass please

Rolland jazz chorus with no pedal

otuzdortistanbul I don’t know why it sounds dirty but it does LoL 😂

Unless it's that Dime Drive pedal. That failed horribly.

@otuzdortistanbul This was beautiful^^^ bravo.

The same one that said "if you want, you can bascially make anything chug with the help of an overdrive"? Yeah, I think I know that wise old man.

@@JonManProductions nah

I'm in a group on Facebook for Doom players and a lot of the guys in the group use it. For DOOM, I suggest using it to push a Big Muff

I player Stoner and Doom. The Rat is perfect for those. It is better to run it into an amp that has a little crunch going on, or use it push another pedal (fuzz is a good one).

Sounds Megadeth ish to me

It's more of a fuzz than distortion, to be honest. This isn't really a hi-gain metal pedal, but if you put an OD pedal before it, it does wonders

If you pair this with a tubescreamer to tighten it up a bit its an old school metal machine.

Frrr will it chug videos are always great but I can’t say the rat was done justice here

@@ericwoods8340 I concur. He turns the distortion down more on his other reviews.

@Jon Goat You're not qualified to answer that

...but seems to me, that most sludge bands rely on the bassplayer to make some chug/boom, and that's cool !

@@Kenneth.W.63 No sir. Try downtuning to C Standard or something!

That's not chugging. That's an impenetrable wall of bass heavy fuzz. A rat will kind of chug if you boost mids going in, to an extreme degree, and then cut them back out afterwards. But anything will chug with pre and post EQ and enough gain.

Just listened to a complete history of Proco today. Thats an awesome story!

Not every pedal is an MT2, Ola.

The Rat is a great pedal plugged into the front of a clean amp. You just need to adjust your rig accordingly, since it doesn't behave like many other distortion pedals. The EQ curve is kind of weird, and the "filter" knob is mostly useless. It's just a tone control wired in reverse. Turning it up kills off your treble response, but doesn't seem to bring out your bass or midrange frequencies at all. I tend to keep the filter knob on zero at all times, and tame the spikey high frequencies using the tone control on my guitar. Usually, players will leave their instrument tone wide open and adjust the EQ settings on their pedals or amp instead. You need to approach things backwards with this pedal. If you don't want to switch pickups or roll off your tone, you could alternatively run some EQ or pre-amp pedal after your instrument but before the Rat. As long as you keep these quirks in mind, the Rat can sound fantastic as a drive unit plugged into the front of your amp. The "fizzy" characteristics aren't coming from the pedal, really. They're in your tone because you need to roll off some treble frequencies before you hit the pedal - especially if you're using humbuckers.

Run it in front with a flat graphic eq and it tightens up the Rat to MT-2 levels of tightness. That is my setup Jcm900 + Rat + Rane EQ.

vht4me I'll just stick with my MT2, lol, actually I have been using a boss ME50, the MT2 built into it sounds awesome with the flanger on but set on 0

Why did everything go downhill when ge plugged it into the front? I thought that was the was the way you made it sound good, not the other way

I don't believe you.

@@charlesrocks www.soundaffects.com/blog/2018/08/rat-race-ten-guitarists-who-love-the-proco-rat/

He also used alcohol and drugs to kill his career...

@@thegoodguy44 Was that before or after the black album?

@@charlesrocks Hetfield probably didn't use it with a clean amp sound like in this video. Guns N Roses used Marshall's that were modded to sound heavier than they were normally capable. Alternatively, you can crank a heavy amp and crank a distortion pedal in front of it. Of course, these days there are more options for heavy amps. Seether, on their newest record that has a heavier sound than usual, they used a Vox amp for the clean tone, and a Mesa Boogie Triple Rectifier for the heavy sound. But that's more expensive than using one amp and a distortion pedal or two. Go back further, and Toni Iommi used a Treble booster to give his amp a little push. The Beatles plugged their guitars directly into the soundboard for Revolution and Helter Skelter. Eddie Van Halen fed his Marshall amps less power than normal to get his sound.

Did you get one ???

Ce faci nicu aicia

Actually it's not chugging

It really do be like that lmao

Yeah pretty much

I didn't know goats played guitar!

Your delusional

@@BrianBower It's not easy, but I make it work.

It's also particularly well suited to single coils. I have a walrus iron horse. It's a rat with the original chip and a clipping selector. I highly recommend it if you like rats

brb listening to Goatsnake

Yep. My first reaction as well. The gorgeous sound of doom

RAT and BIG MUFF!

@@Rr0gu3_5uture Yes and no, he used the rat to boost the plexi, i think. A lot of the tone probably came from James modded Plexi, which Kirk also used in the studio.

I love this comment lol

Tim Clark dude I've had quite a few of these over the years andi always hated them immensely. This was back in grunge days though lol but man once I really figured out it's place and how's to truly use it is a great dirt box. You're absolutely right on all of the points you listed

Tim's got the right idea. My favorite application for a RAT is to max out the volume, set the filter to 0, and adjust the drive knob to taste. It's like a Maxon or Tube Screamer with hair and grit.

I feel that the RAT sounds good, depending on the amp. I had a client who had a very clean amp and relied on pedals for his sound. It actually sounded pretty good right off the bat. Then there's my lead guitar player for my band. He has a Mesa Boogie Tremoverb. The distortion on that amp sounds sooo much better than the pedal. We did run a few tests on a recording. It definitely lacked the low end when it came to the palm mutes and other reliable frequencies. I tried to compensate that by messing with the amp EQ also. After some tweaking, we just ended up using the amp's distortion with an overdrive pedal. It probably does sound better on amps that have a lot of headroom from what you're saying.

@@lylaznboi01 - This is going to run a bit long, but maybe it'll be helpful. I run two different amps for different applications - The previously mentioned Fender Super 60, and a Blackstar HT Club 50. Neither of these is what I'd call "metal" amp on its own. For the Fender, the catch is that it's a non-master volume amp, and it has to be over the hump for *really* good things to happen in the power section. In my room, it puts out about 115dB at 4. Power amp doesn't sweat until its up around 7. So, on the clean channel, the RAT acts more or less like a super-boost that can get the pre-amp to actually reach a natural breakup a room volumes. For contrast, my EHX Soul Food in clean-boost mode can't get the Fender there even when fully cranked out on output volume. With the RAT into the front, the Fender's OD channel gets tighter and more focused, adds preamp compression, and moves toward what I might characterize as a good hard rock sound that can be run up into some NWBHM and hardcore punk tones by adding filth from the RAT. By running the distortion past noon, and filter up to about 11:00, I start hearing the kinds of fuzz-like characteristics I associate with US doom bands like Sleep from the pedal, which enhance the amps own overdrive channel - usually with the amp gain at less than 2:00. For a 1x12 combo, it's unexpectedly huge sounding, and goes right into Orange territory. The Blackstar has two channels with 2 voicings each. The clean side has one they call the "Boutique" with moderate head room that just reaches breakup (without a boost) with most of my guitars, and a high headroom "modern" voicing that almost never reaches breakup (without a boost). In the clean side, the RAT can help tighten things up in the mid range, and lower the relative headroom, as well as adding grit to taste. However; with this amp the RAT doesn't do quite the same things on the clean side, regardless of how high the output on the pedal is set - the RAT takes over as a tone component, rather like a solid state amp in a box. However, by using the filter knob and moderate dirt, it puts out some really nice blues tones. It's also useful for doing a cleaner pass on multitrack guitars. The OD side of the Blackstar also has two voicings, one that they call "classic" which is more like a crunch channel, and a "modern" channel which I'd characterize as higher gain, with more mid focus, a tighter, punchier low end and more "edge". But neither voicing sounds like what you'd expect from a modern, high-gain metal amp. Which is where the RAT comes in for that rig. It becomes a mechanism to run it into the kind of high gain territory that I think we look for in a metal rig - where I want a lot of filth and sustain, without completely losing the sound of the guitar itself in the dirt. The Blackstar ISF knob is a critical aspect of controlling how the RAT interacts with the amp to this end, insofar as it impacts both the tone stack and seems to impact the interaction of the pre and power amp sections. The settings that I use on the RAT will vary a LOT depending on the amp, the channel and the sound I'm looking for, but it's a reliable one-box 90% solution for getting less than ideal amps to behave and sound the way that I want - and even how I dial in the amp in given situation. Using the RAT effectively is a conversation with the rest of your signal chain, but one that I've found can get me as close to the sound I want (as long as what I want is *more*) without having to stage 2 or more gain devices for anything but coloration.

I did an 80's rat in to a '67 Fender Dual Showman (like a Twin in a head with no reverb) for years. I'd pull two tubes from the Showman to run at 42W and turn it up as loud as I could get away with. Absolutely killer and very reactive to wood and pickup choices. Did everything from EVH to EHG with the right guitar, and a really killer Sabbath Bloody Sabbath-era Iommi tone.

yes this is a pedal more design for stoner/doom/grungy tones

@@TheSumfuck Sludgey

*God of Emptiness slowly fades in* 🤘😏

Satanic possession? I kindda like that...

Obituary has used the Rat for decades

....almost the chord did not last 3 years though

Dion R and master of puppets, ride the lightning, as well as justice for all

@@dylanm.3047 actually, a Tube Screamer and a JCM 800 was used on Ride the Lightning, a Mesa Boogie Mark IIC+ plugged into the power stage of a Marshall was used on Master of Puppets, and I think a similar setup to Puppets was used on And Justice for All. I believe the Rat was highly unnecessary with those rigs (keep in mind that Kill em All was recorded on a Plexi).

DS1* by kirk into a marshall

@@MrDragonkarp James used the Rat though. And sadly, the whereabouts of the amp used on Kill 'em All are unknown, as it got stolen at a gig on the subsequent tour.

@@dionr1168 the mark iic++ was only slaved into the marshall for some of kirk's solo on mop, great info though!

Obituary uses 800's and rat.with the bass on 10, 0 mids, and treble at around 6-7

Trey is also still using 900's at a rack unit rat. I love that the old school guys never change

If I am not completely mistaken, Proco RAT was the choice for early 90's black metal also. They got that shrill buzz happening with these pedals and E standard tuning. I bet I am going to get a few guys saying that "gear didn't matter" back then but whatever.

@@2free2snakes haha black metal guys sometimes try too hard for things to not matter sometimes.

@@2free2snakes nah, they were using a Boss pedal

Chug bro chug

Are you gonna fix that rat? 🎵 are you gonna fix that rat?🎵

Wait... is this a UB40 reference on a Will it Chug video??

The Mark IV doesn’t need either of those, though.

They work really nice with an overdrive

Same dude, mines a newer rat though.

@@FEAROWNAGE the rat needs the mark iv.

Yeah, if you own a Mark IV, unless you get an overdrive pedal for a boost, it doesn’t need a distortion pedal 😂 But I can see why One would want a ProCo Rat pedal. I believe Metallica used them for Kill Em’ All. I managed to dial in a similar tone on my Mark IV straight from the amp. Just gotta sit down and dial it in. I recommend Class A, Triode, Harmonics🤘

Hmmm... Morbid Angel and chug? Not really, imo, there's a lot more going on in MA song structure, chugging is usually in the back seat, Trey Azagthoth uses a lot of different strange lunatic shit and chugging doesn't have a big role there, sometimes it is not even present.

@Curly Que palm muting isn't the same thing as chugging

Obituary 🤘🏽🤘🏽🤘🏽

Absolutely, Obituary.

That's his whole board... tuner, Rat, gate = chuggage

Their live show is still freaking unbelievable

@@dylandonis4590 Agreed, I saw them last year and I think they ripped the flesh off my face, and also broke my neck/spine 🤘😂

Dude they will never let him win. It's rigged Joe Biden will win the whole process was a scam. Wake up the party is rotten beyond repair.

Just hope for the best

@@Soldano999 maybe its time for the states to move away from the whole two party thing and shift more focus on the house and senate.

@@Soldano999 yup, just ask Seth Rich...........oh wait........

Prophetic.

I just ordered one. Stoked

Preach Digi !

I've been trying to get Colin over at CSGuitars to demo one for a few years and he never has, so this is a treat.

Me too. I’ve been wondering if they chug. I even asked the question in a pedal board group, but all I got was a laugh react. I didn’t know if that meant “of course it chugs”, or “don’t be silly”. Now Ola has read my mind and made a video. Thank you my Swede.

@@edwardsullivan5530 Depends on your entire FX chain, I'm certain.

Shure yhew did, Shitdick, shure yhew did...

Obituary tone... is fucking killer.

You're a very simple man. I enjoy it.

sounds better through the effects loop. Through the front its shit

Lol, I hate the guitar tone on that album so much.

James Murphy use this pedal?

@@airieshahzad3991 Only in the rhythm parts. He used a Tube Screamer into a JCM 800 for the lead tones.

@@AlexRamosDrTaz all this while I think he use Boss HM2 hahahaha

@@airieshahzad3991 No, but Trevor Peres

You sir are wrong kill em all was with a JMP

I’m pretty sure he didn’t use jcm800 until RTL

Accurate

Exactly. I will take a BE OD Friedman or a Dirty Shirley over a Rat. Or a TS9 .

What were the other options you had back in the 80s? Ds1?

@@kianhowtan2429 mxr 104 + distortion, tube screamer, DOD pedals.

Electric Wizard uses a Univox Super Fuzz pedal. Can't find one? Try the Behringer Superfuzz or the Boss FZ-2.

DoctorQuicksand do you blend it in a wait or is this sucking all the bass?

@@antonycharest4719 a stock RAT does suck some bass, but it's quite minimal. If you're already using a EQ setting on the amp with plenty of bass and enough of the low mids you should be OK.

Haha nice one :)

Blues driver kills. Ola should do that one. The guy from All Them Witches used to use a blues driver as a fuzz/distortion. Sounded awesome

Legit shoegaze foundation

@@xNimrod97x yeah I've always kinda avoided the Blues driver. That pedal can do much more than the name would have you believe.

Try a tube screamer instead!

You totally commented about this in one of the facebook groups I'm in