The whole valve comes apart with an allen key and a spanner for easy cleaning if it ever does clog up on you (if you look closely at the poppet, you’ll see how to disassemble).
THANKS! Can’t believe I missed that. The center of the poppit is a 2.5mm hex and then the whole center slides out for easy cleaning. A quick YT search didn’t show anything on this
I was about to say, nothing "doesn't come apart" unless it's riveted or welded and there's no way they'd spend that kind of money on making valves. Anyway, I've run them with all kinds of sealants on my mtb for 3 years and they've never clogged. Got sick of my gravel bike valves clogging and did the mental math - the satisfaction and time saved of valves that never fail and work so well, AND you don't have to remove the cores to add more sealant? Worth $50 for sure. After putting them on my bikes, watching other people fiddle with valves and having to pump harder while I relax or do other things... it's so worth it. You don't realize how much you worry about your valves until you never have to worry about them at all ever again. Fillmore's are amazing.
I've been on the Fillmore valves with silca sealant long enough to be about due for my second top off. It has been flawless. Compared to mucoff or Stan's valves who's cores I would have to change out about once a month, it's a welcome improvement. For the silca sealant, it's been perfect as well. Stans, mucoff, orange sealants would seal small thorn punctures but would always weep and leave constant wet spots. Same tires, same holes, cleaned up and filled with silca are bone dry.
It took about a year, but eventually I got some build-up in my Filmore valves using Silca sealant. They were still working fine, but I could feel the valve didn't have as much travel as before. Thankfully, you can disassemble the valve and clean it out. Getting all the gunk out was a pain, but I was being extra particular about removing everything. If I only have to do this once a year, I'm happy with the expense. I was cleaning or replacing the standard valves every month or two. The standard ones are cheap, but a constant hassle - to the point I was considering going back to tubes.
Exactly my long-term experience (though I was getting 2-3 months out of a standard valve). I like that the design is fully rebuildable rather than just making the valve core a disposable product. The process is easy enough, just don’t lose that little pin!!
I've had my Fillmore's for about 8 months. They are not clogging so much I cannot add air but I am unable to add sealant thru the valve. I took them apart and there is some minor sealant build up. For the price and the eventual clogging I would rather just deal with replacing cores on normal presta setup.
I have a pair of these valves on my mountain bike, which actually have stans valor, carbon wheels. Of course they’re very narrow and I have no problem seating a bead on this wheel set however, I have some hookless wheels on my gravel bike, and mounting tires is a real bear and monster of an ordeal. very time-consuming there must be some dimensions that are off or not the standard. at any rate I’m gonna try to add sealant through the tire and see if I can Seat the bead back on without making a mess or adding to my frustration I would prefer to just do it through the valves, but that might not be possible time will tell.
I have given up getting sealant through a valve and now just fill the tyre with it nearly fitted, then just push the tyre rim over the wheel rim. I change/clean valves every so often.
Yesterday i used a drink straw brush to clean inside the valve body with sopy water...it works! Also completely loosen and clean around the seal on the vittoria
@AnAvidCyclist hows the filmore lifestyle treating u? I might buy some, i try to cary valvle cores in my tool bag but one day ima forget too or run out helping others on the trail and giving them away to others that need it. And eventually ill run out and need to buy more. And if i do a race or outa town and change tires last minute and dont have my bontrager pump/w built in air tank i might need the better air flow. Fyi I use orange seal endurance basically slightly thicker stans that claims to last a tiny bit longer). Hows the silca treating u as well? Another youtuber claims it sucks on his road bike, but i feel offroad tread has mor surface area to chemically react to the air and not just fight the pavement slicing it off with every rotation. Hopefully i wont have to worry but i did recently buy specialized pathfinder S works tires with center slick on my gravel. My other tubless r mtb.
I’m a full convert on both. Helps that I only have 2 sets of wheels, but I did go get another set of Filmore’s. I just find it so much nicer to deal with a durable solution rather than treat the core’s as a wear item. For the sealant, I tore down my wheel set over the winter. The Silca sealant was very evenly dispersed throughout the tire even though it had been sitting for a while and had dried out a bit. With Stan’s I always had 1) a puddle at the bottom of the tire and 2) dried boogers sporadically around the tire. Whatever Silca is doing is keeping the sealant well spread out through the tire which should make sure it’s there where you need it when you need it. It was also much easier to clean off of the Vittoria insert, just some Iso alcohol and the insert was mostly clean.
This video and the disassembly short might’ve sold me on both the valves and sealant. I had my first case of a gunked up core with Muc-Off valves and Bontrager TLR sealant (came stock), and I‘m interested in not having that experience any more than I have to, ha.
WRT the spray.... dont let the air out with the valve at the top where the sealant puddled in the body ., put it at the bottom so the sealant drains out.
I have the Fillmore on my Santa Cruz Carbon race wheelset. and a puddle around the valve core still sprays some out. just put the valve at the bottom to let it "un puddle" drain, before you de pressurize. It's not rocket surgery. :)@@AnAvidCyclist
this biggest turn off for me, just seeing this now, i can afford a 19.99 bag of valve cores on amazon so those aren't a big deal but when i used silca the internal of my tubeless would junk up and the reserve don't appear to be as user friendly. i've also swapped from silca from stans and now trying orange as it comes highly recommended from my local rei (was on hand) i've seen some latex on amazon for decent bulk prices in a blue jug as well as american classic tyres for thrifting the cost savings.
I'm a mechanic at a high end race shop and we used to offer the Silca sealant in our service course as we are a pretty big Silca dealer. This was last year. This year, we've done away with offering Silca sealant at all. Why? Because a. You can't install it with a syringe (not a huge deal for the most part.. but with some tire/rim combos this can be an absolutely shit-show) and, b. It clogs every valve known to man. It has clogged my own valves so badly that I have had to replace them every month or two. This is just my experience with this stuff. While, yes, it will clog a puncture, just watch out for it clogging your valves as well.
Interesting. Thanks for the comment. For a service-course/race scenario, why wouldn’t you accept the issue with the valve in order to get the puncture protection? Or have you simply not found it to be better protection than others?
Sounds like you may have missed the point about how the shaking leads to foaming in a way Stan’s doesn’t. I didn’t test at 6 o’clock, but based on what I’ve seen I’d expect anything lower than 12 to actually be worse if the wheel has been moving at all
Using the same setup, curious too on the long term effects and with the silca top up fluid. Have 3 bikes on the filmore valves, never tried adding sealant thru the valve.
Pretty sure adding through the valve would be a problem. I haven’t used the replenisher yet. Had the valve out again this week swapping tires. It had a small amount of build up, but still working great. Planning to switch my other wheels to Fillmore now. I really like the fact that you can tear them down for a full cleaning.
@AnAvidCyclist yes, easy to clean even without tearing it down. So far Silca is the one sealant that hasn't dried up and balled up inside unlike others I've tried. hope to see a long term review later on from you. cheers.
Particles in my mucoff sealant can’t get thru and clogged my Fillmore. 😢. I have to take it apart and clean it up. Which is a pain in the ass since my fat bike tubeless setup is not easy.
@@anthonylozano3645 yes they can according to Fillmore. All you need is an Allen wrench. Unscrew it from the back and you can take the core out to clean it.
@@anthonylozano3645, agree with Youling1997, and posted a short video linked in the Pinned comment above that shows how. I’ve been back in there and even removed the poppit. Official or not, they are fully disassemble-able, and aside from the o-rings 100% metal. So yes, they’re expensive, but really should never need to be replaced. I’ve given in and bought a set for my 2nd wheel set.
The frame is very well loved! I like the road like feel of it. One of the primary reasons I chose this frame was for the short seat stays (420mm). I recently heard a rumor that there was an update to the UP coming soon. If true, I’ll seriously consider it depending on what the changes are.
Yeah, I imagine you can’t. Since they don’t have a standard removable core, I wouldn’t expect you’d be able to. I’ve just always popped a bead off anyway, so wasn’t an issue for me.
Sealant, including Silca's sealant replenisher, can be injected through the Fillmore valves. As a matter of fact, this is in the Fillmore FAQ on Reserve Wheel's website: "3. Can I add sealant directly through the Fillmore valve? - Yes, you can direct-inject sealant through the valve simply by removing all pressure in the tire and using either a syringe style injector with tube, or cutting the top of the sealant bottle to size. The Fillmore has no valve core to remove or get in the way."
Was this test with the tire insert in? Could the reduced volume in the tire be increasing the Silca foaming action from the valve depression? Would love to know if the sealant acts the same without the tire insert.
Yes, using the Vittoria Gravel inserts. And yes, I suspect the additional volume from the insert plays a factor. I have another set of wheels with road tires and no inserts, but I haven’t switched the sealant on them yet. Sometime over the winter. Interestingly, Silca posted a video this week about sealant and they were using the same insert. They didn’t say how much sealant they used, but it appeared to be even more than the 50-60ml I was using. Of course, they have a business incentive to encourage overuse of the product!
