Well said Brent Jackson. High ratio and a high gear on the main box. Also just turn the ignition key to "on" to connect the electrics...it doesn't need the starter motor engaged. Nice find tho. Jeb UK
Don't be Wally I hope he can get it going Hank what you think brother let's say a little prayer 🙏 for don't be Wally 🙏 love you'll guy's God bless you'll.
Mr. Wiley, you may be right about the stuck ring, but these Perkins engines are notoriously difficult to bleed the air out of. I didn't catch if that was a three cylinder or four, but I fought the three cylinder on my welder for several hours before it finally got enough air out to run. It had sat for many years when I acquired it, though it wasn't plugged to the degree this one was. I was ready to throw in the towel and have the injection pump rebuilt. The four cylinder in my uncle's Massey 165 gets cranky just changing the fuel filter. Best thing to do is leave the filter loose and pump that primer unti fuel runs out, then open the line at the injector pump, then prime some more. Then open the two bleeder screws on the pump and prime some more. Only then do you open the lines at the injectors and start cranking. If it has an injector and heater on the intake, activate it as well. Another thing they are notorious for is fuel leaks on the injection pump. If it leaks fuel at the pump, it's also sucking air at the pump.
Thinks Wily, of my 60 years the best advice I can give on buying used tractors is be aware of fresh paint. I've seen tractors with fresh paint over inches of grease Central California watching
I had an old gray Ferguson pto you would start it on petrol and run it till it warmed up then turn fuel tap to main tank that had paraffin in it. The exhaust use to get extremely hot when ploughing with the two furrow plough sometime it would get a flame out the top or it would cough and shoot a flame. Loved that little tractor it was so handy not the biggest power house but it never failed to start no matter the weather.
Hi wily, I think your right low compression is issue , maybe valve clearances? Or piston rings stuck or heavy glazing on bores,, rinse thru kerosene gas down boars , soak then blow dry with air , so fumes won't cause heavy detonation when starting, cranking it over by hand and soaking , if you get it fired up run it almost full revs and let windex powder or spraying it idraw in thru air intake, heard this worked real well at de glazed of bores and freeing up stuck rings , works great on old cat diesels that had been idle to long instead of working flat out like designed and tested on dyno
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You just never know why this old equipment was parked..and it's not so easy sometimes to get it sorted out and running...you have it a great attempt..but in this instance I think this ones got a bit more issues. Always great to watch you and Jacob wrenching on this old iron. Truly appreciate all you do and share.😎🚜😇🛠️🇺🇸🔧
I worked Perkins for years we always bled them up to the injector's even removing the injector's reconnecting them so we could see the fuel atomizing, a ultrasonic cleaner is a great help cleang old blocked fuel system parts.
There's a screen in the front of the pump. Good compression because she's banging like hell with the meter. To build compression trickle oil into the intake when the engine is turning.
I haven’t read all the comments being made but I can tell by personal experience with my Massey Ferguson that if you’re going to pull it off it needs to be in third and fourth gear Low range aside will do fine. I can’t understand. Maybe it was just the gunk built up in the Pistons or maybe the valves weren’t opening and closing as they should. I’m not sure. It seems like it would’ve fired over though hadn’t had enough compression..
Wiley, I think there’s definitely something wrong with that transmission, otherwise you would have had it running, can’t win ‘em all Your still the man Wiley👍👍🍮🍮😎😎
HAd a 135D. The Hi/Lo would get stuck between gears, and "lock" up. With that much play in the shifter forks, it would be a place to check. Should be a pipe plug or cap on the top of the trans tunnel. Check the forks with a flashlight while yer in there. Fuel still sounds like an issue. The Perkins were a pain to bleed. Is the mechanical fuel shut off still pulled out? It really doesn't seem to be sucking fuel, mind it should kick off on the ether. Just a few thoughts. Old farmer here. Tired, old, weary farmer. Best of luck Wiley.
My dad had a similar problem with his Massey Ferguson transmission. You should never lift up on the gear shift lever. It does mess up the forks inside the transmission. They do need to pull the third plug on top of transmission to straighten out the forks.
I saw the PTO spinning as ya'll were initially trying to crank it. Maybe it has some kind of safety interlock....I don't know. Disengaging the PTO might have worked. Or it could just have transmission issues. Ya'll gave it a good effort! 👍👍👍 Thanks for sharing, Wily, Jacob and Hank!
your pto is on u need switch it off put it in high gear 4 and release your clutch very slowly not in one hit did u check also the injectors self? take them out? they are extreme sensitive for bit of dirt
A word of advice Wiley. Dont leave ur truck runnin in the heat with the a/c on because u will burn up the compressor cause there aint nothin but hot air blowin back into the engine compartment. U need cooler ish air runnin across the condenser fins to help keep the freon from buildin up too much pressure in the lines
Thanks for another great video Wiley. Think that tractor is not wanting to run. Sounds like it has some compression problems. The engine seems to have zero compression. Also a loud knocking noise when you turn it over. Don’t know what that is. Your transmission seems to have problems also. The rear tires would not turn around when you popped the clutch. Acts like it is locked up. Got some real problems there Wiley. That one may be done for. Lots of problems I think. Thanks for everything Wiley. Hang in there. The Iowa farm boy.
The shutoff linkage is stuck in the off position inside the injection pump. I'll pull a small bit of fuel out but not nearly enough. Extremly common for that pump. Gets people all the time. To fix it just remove the top cover from the injection pump and wiggle the stop linkage back and forth to free up from sitting. Reinstall cover and i'll fire right up.
Pull the short shifter backwards and pull the tractor backwards and it'll start but really be better to put in road gear and pull it forwards. The open station jd is it for sale id be interested in the 135 if it was reasonable thanks
Excellent video Wiley :) funny part a 1976 Massey Ferguson Combine #505 had 6 cylinder motor Perkins was worst ever work on because fuel filter clogged up also Glow Plug in housing dirty to would work and fuel plug all injection pump also injectors to tight! Yes costly fix also motor had not turn over or started up for 30 years Perkins 6 in 1975 Dodge D350 Extended van with Truck Transmission 5 speed Manual transmission floor shifter Creeper speed on First gear as Bow Low too a Late Cousin of mine building as camper van in 1985 ! Yes was Late Cousin was mechanic plus ran John Deere tractor dealer in my area for years with his older brother Ken and his middle brother Bill was super mechanic before past away! He help anyone before went blind could work no more 10 years died! But love teaching anyone want know how fix or try out ! He taught me in lots stuff too Wiley and enjoy too always me Lol too! Last I know have Range gear in H for High and gear top be 4 or 5 too ! Plus need Key ignition in 1 postion be 1:00 clock postion and have glow plugs on 30 seconds need to warm to!
The fuel is coming from the injector return line it’s definitely a compression problem and it needs to be in high gear to pull it off keep up the good videos.
Used to drive a MF 135 for years pretty much the same as the 130 apart from the gearbox in the 130 was a 4 forward box. Make sure you got the stopper pushed in and tow it, let the clutch up in high third she'll start for ya.🤠🇮🇪
Sir comparing Massey 130 to a 135 is like comparing Chalk to Cheese and high class cheese at that You need to read up on your Massey history To put it simply 135 Brilliant tractor 130 Lemon And I’ve owned 2
I went for a walk a while back and took what I thought were some pictures. With my phone, of the lake, I walked past and stuff. I couldn't see the screen real good because of the sun. Got home, and it turned out I had heaps of pics of my ugly old head...phone was set to self-portrait. So I get you with the filming in reverse, lol.
There’s nothing saying that the injectors could be blocked up and maybe the pump needs work as well that little Perkins probably needs a bit of love to see why it ain’t getting compression rings / or whatever it maybe
The pto needs to disengaged and the cut off pushed it and when your pull starting it make sure your in a high gear and in high range then let out on the clutch or pop the clutch... it won't start with the pto engaged...
French buildt Ferguson's are always hard to start. Don't like that knocking sound when you turn it over. PTO shaft might be bad, moving up and down when turning.
First time I saw your channel Brilliant circus I’m not daring to suggest as to why it won’t start The MF 25 ,30 , 130 825 Was the French engineers shoving it up the English as nearly every country in Europe built a tractor, but the French got Harry Ferguson to build a factory in France to build what was an iconic British tractor,redesigned by French engineers and that led to that MF Range with disastrous results But good luck with your 130 Good fun
I grew up on a farm South Western Ontario lots of little tractors in the neighbourhood Next door neighbour bought himself a David Brown 995 my idot step father says why need that big tractor LOL
Those 130s were French built , said to the true successor th the ferguson 20 but they weren't popular, the 135 with the bullet proof perkins AD152 engine totally out sold them.
Yes i recall them very well, always displayed in the line up ads, pretty rare though as they were a duplicate for the TEA 20, ok for a golf course or a garden tractor but thats about it. As someone above said, the 135 would be the way to go .
used to drive a 30 years a good tractor they were just as popular. sounds like the engines stuffed with those noises you would probaby have to strip it down. Now it gets expensive
Sounds like those axles have been put in the wrong sides of the rear end of that tractor to me.,or that gear that drives that side of the axle is flipped around in the wrong rotation one.
you gotta be in high gear and like 3rd for it to pull start. that goes for anything. those injectors and the pump is prolly pooched wiley. unless ur gonna put money in it i'd quit while ur ahead