WILL|LUCAS|LURRUS - DHALSIM - ABADDON - MARNEUS - WHOS THE BEST UNIVERSES BEYOND COMMANDER IN cEDH

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@videowiz22 Год назад

I’ve literally never seen suppression field played to such efficacy in a cedh pod and I don’t want to see it again and I’m sure neither does tyler lol

@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад

doing work

@videowiz22 Год назад

@@PlaytoWinMTG thats an understatement lol

@Varler_ Год назад

A few years ago it was a lot more common. Still strong, though!

@calebwolfenden8061 Год назад

I’ve realized during this game that because of the companion errata, dranith magistrate doesn’t even prevent casting companions, which is what it was meant to counter in standard

@QDurlstonP Год назад

12:34 Cam casts Tainted Pact from exile (found by Grasp) through a Drannith Magistrate. Think the stax had gotten so wide that people started to forget what was still active.

@blakey9869 Год назад

And the Nature's Claim on the Deafening silence

@QDurlstonP Год назад

@@blakey9869 Drannith was phased out then by the X Blue spell.

@odyseeus Год назад

Felt bad for Tyler, but I think most cEDH players have been there. You handled that misery wonderfully, Tyler.

@edwardchan5567 Год назад

Jesus christ you guys getting on TCC is incredible! Thank you guys for playing a huge part of getting CEDH to mainstream!

@connorl0204 Год назад

Man these last two games really show how important turn order is

@markrugeles4968 Год назад

Doesn't the dranith stop cam's tp cause he would cast it from exile?

@alpo4368 Год назад

It do lol

@64lundyco Год назад

I think Dhalsim probably still would have won but that counter war burned through a lot of interaction so it would have changed a good bit of the game

@stephanblijleven8189 Год назад

Was gonna say the exact same thing

@jayliohd6280 Год назад

I don't think so 'cause doesn't grasp specifically say "play" not "cast", Drannith says "can't CAST spells". I could be wrong tho about the ruling

@markrugeles4968 Год назад

It needs to say play in order for grasp to able to get lands if you get a spell then you must cast it in order to play it

@lilwigese1 Год назад

Just got the Halloween playmat yesterday it looks AMAZING thank you guys love the channel ggs

@JUBManbear Год назад

Dranith Magistrate would stop Cam's Tainted Pact he got from the Praetor's Grasp.

@kstandish42 Год назад

Dylan as the Donnie Darko bunny is an alter sleeve or token idea for the future 5sure 😂

@Bafflementation Год назад

It makes me truly happy to see good ol' Deadly Recluse there, even if it didn't get to see play.

@MentalMisplay Год назад

LETS GOOOOO

@LemorasCards Год назад

Great video, Dhalsim is sick.

@kristopherwatts9466 Год назад

Am I the only one whose learning just now that Jim is on the RC now??? Thats awesome!!! Edit: looked it up, and Olivia is on the RC too?? Thats super awesome!!!

@johnaych8954 Год назад

rules committee means fuck all unfortunately

@kevinsimmons5343 Год назад

This was the most epic “begin” yet

@justinveron698 Год назад

A good game and congrats on the shuffle up and play announcement!

@rowrow_ Год назад

love the preview for halloween season at 20:11

@aventar Год назад

I love my Halloween playmat. Need more episodes. :)

@draytonyork4811 Год назад

What a fun game! Poor Tyler, tho, not doing much of anything 😆 dhalsim doing work!!

@a_level_70_elite_raccoon Год назад

Dhalsim was so powerful on this board, but the pace with which the stax pieces came down was ridiculous. Haven't seen a shellacking like that by a GW deck since Tyler took Yasharn out for a spin (still one of my favorite games, btw). The effect of the stax pieces was absolutely backbreaking. Excellent job on the editing, as always, and a great game to see!

@Orelusz Год назад

Dhalsim is so cool! I want to build it now, been looking for a Selesnya commander and this one seems the perfect choice!

@mandielyn0416 Год назад

Excited for the shuffle up and play episode

@ethanstates884 Год назад

Great game fellas! Keep it going!

@fallen5771 Год назад

Mmhm Fantastic. Dhalsim is sick

@titan0210 Год назад

Would love to see a cedh all stax with dhalsim, winota, urza, and derevi. I know that makes for a brutal game most times but it would be interesting 🤔.

@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад

oo that would be a good one

@oddball_covers Год назад

Watch the last vid. It was an all stax game. Different commanders tho aside from winota

@DMBlade4 Год назад

That's not really a CEDH game at that point, that's just tuned commander

@MeowHoots Год назад

@@DMBlade4 ah what are you talking about

@DMBlade4 Год назад

@@MeowHoots Stax decks only become CEDH powerful when they're up against decks trying to cast 3 or more spells per turn. If no one is trying to do busted things at the table then all the power of Thorn of Amethyst is lost, for instance. Thorn is supposed to cost multiple mana per turn to play through in order to actually be effective. If each person is only playing a spell or 2 per turn, you're not breaking parity. Stax decks are not CEDH decks, they're strongly tuned decks that suddenly become hyper-effective against real CEDH strategies. It's really simple

@johnayala771 Год назад

When you said begin I shit myself from the raw power of your voices

@stelliocantos4639 Год назад

Good game. Suddenly very aware of the lack of suppression field in my meta... [digs through boxes]

@aftonlagrandeur5777 Год назад

Best intro yet!!!

@DutchPenquin Год назад

Love the reminder for Bloodstained Mire when you cast the field. There is a slightly infamous legacy tournament report about a guy on mono-white stax and he routinely mentioned how his opponents would get GRV's for fetching with it out.

@johngoodmans_thanksgiving_7867 Год назад

I think the correct intuition pile is Ad Nauseam, Mystic Remora, Rhystic Study. It doesn’t always have to be a card to grab combo pieces. From the board state you were in, I think it’s correct to play for the long game.

@jonathanyoung2771 Год назад

Having the inverted scrollpad is infuriating but I also have to say you got a little taste of not getting to do what you wanted. haha I love this channel so much!

@ImWintercat Год назад

I hope we see more suppression field so that my claim off color fetches are bad gets stronger. Fun game to watch

@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад

me too

@MesivYT 17 дней назад

@@PlaytoWinMTG video from a year ago, but LED isn't a mana ability, so cam at 12:55 would have had to pay 2 to activate it, right?

@ChristopherZAR Год назад

Dhalsim putting in workkkk! Damn I never realised how close that deck is to my pet Derevi deck :)

@TripsAhoy Год назад

Man Tyler had one hell of a game there! ;)

@mitsosoftheelves Год назад

This felt more stax-y than the stax commanders game, haha!

@Flip4Crypt Год назад

So exited for Cam to be on Shuffle Up and Play, this was a really fun game to watch Suppression Field did some really great work this game That deck dylan was running had some really funny cards in it compared to most cEdh decks

@geoffreygarfein9169 Год назад

To answer Dylan’s thought: I like the the Blue Spellbomb. I also like seal of doom. Just food for thought.

@firstandlast.1254 Год назад

Oooo seal of doom is a good call

@StackedEDH Год назад

LET'S GO DHALSIM

@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад

hell yea

@ryanhillary9198 Год назад

Alright I just watched the game and all I gotta say is congratulations on the win to Cam in shuffle up and play. What a turn

@Varler_ Год назад

This is why people need to play more board wipes in cEDH! Fun game.

@intention21 Год назад

9:50 lol you guys are some funny dudes

@cheezybred Год назад

I was super excited to see what marneus can do since I am trying to build this deck. Disappointing that he was just shut off from turn 1.

@johnsannicolas5649 Год назад

Watch the previous vid, marneus was insane. Turn 1 tithe riding it all the way to victory

@SvviftDeath Год назад

@@johnsannicolas5649 That was the best it could've done but I'm with M Safrons where I wanted to see what it could do outside of the best possible start. How resilient can it be in the mid game and how good is it trying to go for a grindy win.

@rubesobar5203 Год назад

"And by people I mean me" that broke me hard

@TomHickey Год назад

@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад

😈

@SavageD-qi2ti Год назад

Loved the game, that was great. Any thoughts on Dhalsim making it into the maybe/sideboard pile for Blood Pod? Seems interesting, but I haven't gotten to play enough to have thoughts on it yet.

@timothygadd751 Год назад

hey on the off chance, are any of ptw gunna be at the axion edh event on saturday?

@runeserpent1449 Месяц назад

the title is an actual headacke to read when its scrunched together in the recommended tab lmfao xD

@sorry987654321 Год назад

at 14:21 was that actually really truly an DEADLY RECLUSE !?!?

@jacobbrown9894 Год назад

It has reach after all

@MentalMisplay Год назад

Deadly Recluse is Dhalsim's Loyal Apprentice.

@sorry987654321 Год назад

@@MentalMisplay I can respect that in an cEDH deck XD

@cameronbustos6059 Год назад

I think its like to see another game with these decks because this is 2 in a row now where it seems only 1 deck did anything. I always love the vids though❤️

@thanhavictus Год назад

You know what would be a cool touch? Some sort of visual glow around the names when someone is talking. It got really confusing sometimes to tell who's turn and who's saying what. A visual-for-audio cue would be great for these videos.

@cameronjose6185 Год назад

Bro that’s a baller WAWA shirt I love there sammiches

@Kishimyu Год назад

Will you guys try to make the other Street Fighter characters viable for cEDH?

@bahablastfreeze8872 Год назад

Yo the Wawa shirt!

@DMBlade4 Год назад

I don't think Nate had priority during the blocking phase when he casted March of Swirling Mist

@mandielyn0416 Год назад

You know what would make a cool patron perk? Letting the patrons do the “Begin!” At the beginning of the episodes.

@jacuzzi_jake Год назад

Jesus Dhalsim stax is sooooooooooo juicy! Suppression field putting in work!

@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад

it does a lot

@forever915ful Год назад

Around 15:58, esper trigger is 3 mana not 1... lol still a fun game

@matthewrobert1810 Год назад

Shout out to the Wawa shirt

@TheTennisballs97 Год назад

Play to win should do a 6 part series of who’s the better commander for all the colours including colourless instead of one video with four colours

@frankdetank9126 Год назад

This was a fun video. Have you ever considered a best enchantress in cEDH video?

@DylanDarkWorld2 Год назад

Random question. And no disrespect as I’m genuinely curious. Why do you have “he/him” next to all your names? Is it necessary to have that there?

@Tableautin666 Год назад

Led is worded that it is no mana source, so it would also be staxed by Suppression Field

@ary31415 Год назад

That is not true, LED is a mana ability, it's just weird because it's a mana ability with a timing restriction. Notably, Pithing Needle does not stop LED

@ary31415 Год назад

There is a Gatherer ruling for LED that says: " The ability is a mana ability, so it is activated and resolves as a mana ability, but it can only be activated at times when you can cast an instant. Yes, this is a bit weird. "

@SuperArthuroliveira Год назад

When Cam put Lurrus in his hand it wasn't suposed to cost 2 more mana because of the Supression Field?

@abelmuniz7917 Год назад

who is better, tymna/ikra or ikra/bruse ? Your personal opinion. For value or easy combo

@murrowmench1565 Год назад

REPPIN’ WAWA YEAH BOY

@matthewmartin9983 Год назад

Cam with the spite play! (On accident lol)

@gland10 Год назад

Vanishing Verse should have been in the graveyard, which would give Cam access to a removal spell in his graveyard. RIP does not exile the card that destroys it but does exile itself.

@israelgalderisi Год назад

Dhalsim is fantastic!!!

@mimic_ssb Год назад

Too bad that Tyler didn't get to play haha. Very cool decks though!

@TheMightyBattleSquid Год назад

I think magic has officially hit that point yugioh did ages ago where "anti-meta" is now strong enough to be the strongest thing in the meta lol

@BigMikePlays Год назад

I was rooting for 4 color lurrus

@AndreasRChaos Год назад

i believe i've never seen a game where Tyler isn't mana screwed ... why are you guys doing this to him :D

@lysander3262 Год назад

Wow, if it isn't the consequences of not running more than 0-1 board wipes XD Edit: Also, questions. 1. Is there a reason Dhalsim runs Ranger's Guile over Tamiyo's Safekeeping and 2. Does Dhalsim have room for Pendelhaven?

@ConnorPlaysTCG Год назад

Well I was really interested in building abaddon storm but seeing this game and the last one is not very motivating lol

@freeejazzz Год назад

That laptop is definitely scrolling the right way!!

@civilmcgraaw Год назад

How can Cameron run Lurrus as a companion and run Ad Naus in his deck?

@e.t.6424 Год назад

Lurrus says permanent, not card strangely. That’s one of the things that makes Lurrus real good. What makes this especially weird is that it’s counterpart, Keruga, doesn’t specify only permanents.

@civilmcgraaw Год назад

@@e.t.6424 wow I’d never noticed that. Thanks!

@e.t.6424 Год назад

@@civilmcgraaw No problem, it is super easy to miss.

@paulgoodridge2269 Год назад

Another bit of a bad advice is "math is for blockers". Infamous last words of Jimmy Wong.

@JohnDoe-vc5qb Год назад

Wait, how can you have Naus in a Lurrus Companion deck?

@Pantuflein Год назад

Lurrus only cares about permanents Mana Value, so Naus is ok

@marcellusjordan5681 Год назад

Are there any rulings as to why someone cannot? I genuinely would like to know.

@JohnDoe-vc5qb Год назад

@@Pantuflein hm I guess I never noticed. Thanks for the tip I always thought it was like Keruga but for under 3 mana

@JohnDoe-vc5qb Год назад

@@marcellusjordan5681 nah i just thought Lurrus was worded like Keruga but instead it’s worded like Zirda. I thought it asked for all cards to be under 3 cmc but instead it’s only permanents.

@marcellusjordan5681 Год назад

@@JohnDoe-vc5qb Wow. Reading the card, explains the card. I appreciate it

@Its-Lulu Год назад

Patreon to Win 😎

@PlaytoWinMTG Год назад

You know it!

@WhyDoIHaveToHaveAHandle_s Год назад

Cam that was definitely not a spite play if you thought that at the time it would save you, but Tyler's counter on your Tainted Pack was also definitely a spite play because by definition it was basically giving the game to Dylan as there was no way Tyler was going to be able to come back.

@64lundyco Год назад

I disagree. No matter what position you're in, the only way to win is to not lose. Even if you're staxed out to oblivion, the correct play is always to counter a combo win attempt. Also, Drannith was out so Cam couldn't have played tainted pact anyway but that's a separate issue

@64lundyco Год назад

But yes Cam was not making a spite play

@Tehnameless1 Год назад

Of note: LED isn't a mana ability, so suppression field makes it cost 2 more. Great stuff! Loved the Halloween intro

@lambertodemillo9027 Год назад

Ruling LED, The ability is a mana ability, so it is activated and resolves as a mana ability, but it can only be activated at times when you can cast an instant. Yes, this is a bit weird. 10/4/2004

@Cha0sRising90 Год назад

Dylan using Ancient Mew encouraged me to find mine, and now they are my treasure token lol! Let's go, using $30 tokens!! Another great game, though. That Suppression Field put in work. Tyler should get to mull to 8 next game, though, because of it.

@MrBsauce12 Год назад

Wait, how was he drawing 3 cards from Dhalsim? His abilitys says one or more, so no matter how many creatures delt combat damage, he would only draw 1 card from it right?

@AresVishnu Год назад

Cause it says “one or more to a player”. Each player is counted as a separate clause to draw that many cards. So if 3 creatures hit 3 different people, that’s 3 independent triggers.

@MrBsauce12 Год назад

@@AresVishnu oooooh i missed that, thanks!

@Jarvis_Moonbeam Год назад

I've just come here to let Cam know that Sheetz is better than Wawa

@lucasc9142 Год назад

I can tell by the way “I’m joking” was said that these guys have watched the show I think you should leave. So to that I say…. Gimme Dat!

@BlackBullNDN Год назад

Am I missing something or can you only draw one card off Dhalsim?

@ary31415 Год назад

It's one per player you dealt combat damage to

@BlackBullNDN Год назад

@@ary31415 ahhh ok thanks

@the_social_gammer1976 Год назад

Sheetz is better then wawa

@Death_by_Tech Год назад

“Tier 1 dhalsim” if you need to say you are tier 1 then you are not tier 1 😂 but actually I love it

@MentalMisplay Год назад

it's called tier 1 because it's the list I played in the Tier1 world championship cEDH tournament in Copenhagen. but also cause it's funny/cheeky to name a deck that.

@Death_by_Tech Год назад

@@MentalMisplay I didn’t know that! Cool! It’s an awesome list, it inspired me to include dhalsim in my jetmir deck as a backup toski

@ingolf82 Год назад

they say math is for blockers. Dhalsim has the "one or more" clause.. so if you deal damage with 5 creatures you only draw 1 card, thats sad.

@aktheuite Год назад

One or more damage to each player

@ingolf82 Год назад

@@aktheuite ah, right, so you can attack everyone and draw 3 cards, nice.

@TheMightyBattleSquid Год назад

Ew.

@damandalorian970 Год назад

Pronoums? Wtf

@firstandlast.1254 Год назад

They're hopelessly intoxicated on the juice. Hopefully the fad passes soon.

@iclimbeverything2990 Год назад

Hmmm I wonder which is better, a selesnya guy with 3 totally irrelevant effects and one card draw effect, or a partner orzhov commander with the same only-good-ability that can get any 2 other colors in it's colors