Just speaking for myself even if Amazon was to sell ounces for $15 or whatever I would still grow just because I love to grow it’s not about the money or how cheap or how expensive or whatever it’s just the fact that I love to plant seeds and watch them grow
Yeah I get it man, but atleast there's a way around that and we can make our own. It's like there just trying to make it more of a pain in the ass for us! The old "Uncle Tom's", still in office that believe it's the "Devils Lettuce" need to croke & get the hell out of office! We need leaders at the top that are pro-cannibus pushing & spreading all the good Information & all the health benefits that come with using cannibus to the world! They have "no right", to do this to something that grows natural in nature & helps so many ailments bc the Govt and Big Pharma wants everyone to be sick or the sicker the better for them bc it's a monopoly for them! EVERYTHING is LITERALLY about the all mighty dollar when it all boils down obviously and it's Sickening! They are consumed by there own greed and don't care for anyone else but themselves and there money! And so bizarre they allow alcohol to be distributed absolutely everywhere which actually kills, turns people into Idiots with that "alcohol Courage" and make people violent! It causes DUI's that kill or hurt ALOT of people and the fact it's one of the hardest drugs to get off of says ALOT & in my town we even got drive thru Liquor stores!🤦♂️ Not to mention, I don't get the sale of Tylenol & other products with "Acetaminophen" in it which is basically "poison" IMO, as they destroy your kidneys/liver and other things in your gut! And then we are told to give these to our children for pain/fevers/headaches, ect...just blows my mind! I mean you seriously believe they dont have a much safer and better option for over-counter pain meds!?!? They need to start Investing the taxpayers dollars into the children of our future( Bc there going to need all the help they can get) and places like the YMCA, build parks, and other places for the kids to go hang out where there's adults or a parent around atleast to watch them and have a Place where they can go and have fun without all that "bad influence", you get when running the streets but then the cops wouldn't be able to get there quotas so easy by bogus tactics and arrests and would actually have to work for there paychecks which the taxpayers pay any damn way! Sorry for rambling but I hate cops if you can't tell and this whole situation with the schedule3 has me even more pissed! Damnit I had a good high going to!
They better move FAST, cause the peeps are choking up😁 People are starting to realize that it is not what has been stated to be. People aren't falling for the old lies anymore.
Plus it's like the golden age of growing. Everything is cheaply available all over. Lights, nutes, you name it. Usually u can find it local if not Amazon baby
I think cannabis will move to schedule 3. And each state will decide how they want to proceed with their policies on the medical and recreational side of it. And yes it’s still illegal at a schedule 3. As for the pharmaceutical side of it. they will be able to dispense it. If the doctor prescribes it and be able to do more research. Looking forward to this. 63 years young been smoking since the mid 70s. All I really care about is being able to grow.
It is impossible to stop all the millions of growers and our own lobbyist groups now... its a billion invested per year industry now, case closed, they will need billions to stop and reverse anything
@@Silently-t3m We started there 2005, and i trimmed fulltime for dozens of people all up and down the east coast side.... even got in the paper and all, so we left and went north to med states heh
11:06. Im not sure. If the dispo will be considered a pharmacy. Then you can be charged with possession of substance without a prescription. Like pain meds. Thats a felony
my dad and his best friend did what they called whishky i tell ya my friend that stuff was stronger then anything i ever had before tasted like shyt but got ya where ya needed to be in a few little chugs
Pigeons hit on it with," People dont home brew much anymore. I live in Virginia surrounded by tobacco fields, leafs fall off trucks in my road. Do I or anyone I know grow craft tobacco at home, hell no. Most people dont grow craft tomatoes and get them at the grocery store for 2 bucks a pound. I however grow my own tomatoes.
big thing no one is talking about: copyrighting your cultivar since it wont be schedule 1, I think you can copyright your cultivars just like food crops now
My sister is district manager for Osco drug in the whole Chicago land area and that is true everything he said everything will have to be dispensed by a registered pharmacist. I'll be damned if they'll stop me from my homegrow. I'm pretty sure everybody else is with me they'll have a hell of a time getting us all. Lol. Looking forward to the next podcast catch you on the flip side my brother. ✌️
Either way I choose and will grow my own, because I want ✌ 😊❤. CHEERS in Burnaby there's stuff that's already established for about 40 years. Thanks for the good fight, all the power to the home growers. This is Canada and clean drinking water is still free.
I also wonder about the felony thing bc i have 2! A schedule 3 & 4 but were for possession of cannibus with intent to deliver and simple possession was a class 4 bc it was over 30grams, which im wanting to get exsponged, but with this new crap im not sure if that will effect it or not with getting it off my record bc it makes it a pain in the arse the get a house or other things like loans, ect... if you have felonies! Ivebeen procrastinating about it forever and just need to do it and get it done! Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated if you know what i ahould do!?🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️ Thanks in advance...💯💯🤔😎✌️
Yes and schedule 3 gives the DEA a clear guideline and does away with Cole memorandum . People who don’t think the government will come in in force whatever harsh regulations and penalties because lobbyist pressure to do so.
I highly recommend getting all the beans you can get. When big company gets in this you will only get their strains. How will the every day citizen (millions at that point) get to the black market. Every single site all the way up to the browser itself is watched deeply as well now with AI. Price of dispo here is 55-90 an 1/8th.
Gearing up for rec, all the med shop prices doubled+ here in OH. They were supposed to have separate inventory, and I guess that didn’t happen. They seem to be trying to limit access to people that need it so they have inventory for rec. I’m sure it will stabilize, but it’s wild to watch. Cant imagine the chaos we’re going to see as this all slowly unfolds and works itself out nationally. Then you have companies like Phylos that stole all their genetics getting back in the game, patented genetic potential with triploids..sketch, but my glass is half full. The community will take care of its own at the very least.
I think it all depends on what the pharmaceutical industry wants and what they will allow the public to do. Schedule III is strictly for big pharma to do what they want. I just hope it doesnt affect the home grow/seed production and seed purchasing
Amazon is definitely going to be entering the space but friends don't let friends smoke mids. Even if they do figure out how to grow quality at quantity, it will still be a win for the community. Can doesn't grow itself and they are already employing a lot of people. Farmers that are struggling will now have a steady pay and the end consumer gets a great deal on pack.
Question did brutal prohibition oppression and forced to be surrounded by sheep with Stockholm Syndrome stop home growing before? Just asking because the question posed hurt my brain a little…
Biggest difference is Schedule 1, cannabis is regulated by the state since it's illegal federally. Going to 3 makes the federal government provide regulatory authority. It's going to suck for everyone
You're right, pharma and investment firms will drive down the value (already happening with big growers) once it's so cheap the small grass roots guys will die off and the big cats will run the industry like they do with everything else.
I agree with Chris about Amazon jumping in and being in bed with the insurance companies. United Healthcare has a contract with Amazon. They handle their OTC catalog items.
most crow operations are selling pounds for 500-800 so thats 2 bucks or so cause if they sold for more the prices would be crazy high due to taxxes on it
Even lower for commercial prices in Oregon, Michigan, and Oklahoma. Michigan just surpassed California legal sales numbers, so cali is likely 3rd behind michigan and oklahoma if they factored it all in
Also I live in the ONLY state that allows me to make spirits. And own and run a Still. In the united states'. The freeist State the show me State. I can legally distill up 200gal Year for my personal use. To drink to make fuel etc.
People still brew beer, sure the craft boom took a few out of the hobby. But there will always be those people who love creating something from scratch
Pigeons brings up a good point with strains you can’t find no more. Ohio had Meigs gold and was some of the best cannabis ever hands down for all time. Can’t find real Meigs gold anymore because the old heads has passed on and it’s been lost.
It's just like in Germany. If you're really honest, those who want to do something "semi-legal, grey, whatever" are happy because the maximum penalties and general complications are reduced, while the others naively hope that the government will sort it out and not completely submit to the pharmaceutical industry and bureaucrats. I think this is also due to a general dishonesty towards oneself and others, just as it started with "medical" use, where every second person in the city looked for a medical reason just to be allowed to smoke cannabis, and the same goes for many other areas. People don't actually want to pay high taxes, but so that it was finally legal at least on paper, they completely submitted to the state and were even grateful to be able to pay taxes for it, at least from the public mask. But when it was too expensive for them, they bought on the black market again and basically it was all just a stupid theater game between the state and the population.
I'm worried they are going to crack down on breeders. You've alredy seen RU-vid and insta cracking down on people talking about any keywords related to selling beans. It seems like they know something is coming down the pike.
Dispensaries opened the door to this… products they sell are not accurately labeled when independent labs test them, ER visits from minors gaining access to candy-looking products and hero-dosing themselves have skyrocketed in every state, and plenty of pseudo and bro science staff giving customers bad and wrong information about products they do no understand, ridiculous extracts and bathtub conversions of thca to delta 8, delta 10, etc that people have never consumed in those quantities before. Dispensary greed has opened the door to pharma greed. Our society has gone so full-regard hypocritical it kills me
Schedule 3 will be a disaster in my opinion. Especially if they add an additional federal tax. People aren't going to pay a fifty percent tax You'll have to buy it a pharmacy. Can't be grown organically. It's going to be a mess.
In NZ we have prescription medical flower and sublingual oil, still lots of hassles around it driving work, stigma as well as cost. Class A (very high risk): methamphetamine, magic mushrooms, cocaine, heroin, LSD (Acid) Class B (high risk): cannabis oil, hashish, morphine, opium, ecstasy and many amphetamine-type substances. Class C (moderate risk): cannabis seed, cannabis plant, codeine. I thought shrooms were a class C until 30 secs ago 🤯 Come on improvement with the next government, the last referendum in 2020 failed with some very questionable advertising from the government. 81.92% of voters voted, 48.83 voted yes. They didn't have any middle ground to vote on. Devils lettuce or legal with little restriction
Legalization will be bad in the end . These greedy bastards will make sure that we can’t grow our own so that we have to buy it . Saying that :..I’ll never stop growing my own
It's already over I've ben growing for 20 years in socal and literally every single person I knew who grow bud has quite and moved on in life and there not coming back
i know its a taboo subject but i want to talk about selling. dispensaries sell despite federal laws, local laws here dont say its illegal to sell, but they say its illegal to sell without their license..fuck that
It's fine if they want to have their pharmaceutical cannabis, but we can have our regular medical cannabis also. Let it just be nonchalant though 100% legal.
I wonder if Chevron Deference will carry any weight in this conversation? The DEA might not be able to just make up laws anymore. Might have to actually go through Congress. What do you guys think?
The QC will go out the door at those p points! Comes down to control..the average growmie.. mom and pop will cease and your choices will be crap or more crap..sounds like crickets and 3d printed meat for all..
As it is right now with legalization. It's on the same schedule as heroin. I think the pharmaceutical will let it let it be as it is just with Federal legalization coming soon. Hopefully it will open up for Mom and Pop shops to make money.
Going tell u now begging big brother to get in this is the biggest mistake ever!!! When has anything big brother ever went good that’s right never! Their going want taxes out the rear end and regulations out the rear that will cost a ton!! K once they start getting their tax dollars they will want it to stay same so they want have no million home growers cutting into their tax dollars. We should have left this with the states o mean we nearly have 40 doing something for weed all ready. It’s easier to vote state officials out of office if they don’t help than getting D.C out of the way. 99% of D.C are full time employees u can’t vote out and the others u can vote on like president and so on is a lot harder to get who u want. Am hearing big pharmaceutical getting lined up also the big alcohol companies are and cigarettes companies all them getting ready to take all this over.
Come on let's not be ridiculous. Name 1 single time something became better because the feds took control SMH. Its the end of rec and home grows . They want control period
So wait....everything's gonna change because of rescheduling but it's Ok to homegrow in an outright prohibition? 😂😂😂 What's with fear-mongering? States rights remember?
People who started in the 70s watch y'all panicking all of the time and we laugh the train keeps a rolling along we will keep doing what we have regardless of all of this bullshit
Amazon can deliver it fresh too, not processed and shipped over the course of months. Introducing drone delivery efforts up scaling right now baby, stoners be lazy.
amazon also already bought pillPack which is delivery and superior individual bagged medications... they already own that 😆 so you are correct! also tissue culture clean 💯 cuts
@@dertythegrower Amazon stands at the top of the hill and can look down the slope both directions so as to be far far ahead of others in futures. Sort of like our representatives in the high chairs.
