Will ToneX Kill the Quad Cortex? Capture vs Capture - Neural DSP vs IK Multimedia 

They're so close. Everything now days is so good. It really is the best time to be a musician.

Definitely a wakeup call for QC and Line 6. Wouldn't surprise me if IK came out with an all-in-one box next.

I love the double Anchorman camera angle.

As with all your videos, the comparison was good, and with tweaking, I think both would sound identical. The QC seems a bit hotter and brighter, but in a live setting, I don’t think anyone would be able to tell which unit you were playing. Plus, you hit the nail on the head regarding players that have a lot of money invested in their pedals and would like to continue to use them. The Tonex will fill that gap nicely.

ToneX and HX Effects could be a killer combo. I really hope Line6 will step up soon on the capture capabilities (and fingers crossed for a new version of the Helix

I think it's nice to finally have an amp pedal with true amp selection and capture capability. It's crazy the price point it is at too!

Pushed with the Nobels, the QC definitely got muddy. Steve, I think you were right: there’s much better string to string articulation in the ToneX. I’ve been using a Headrush MX5 for my amps on my smaller gigging board, and I’m looking forward to replacing that with the ToneX.

Your summary absolutely nailed it. Now I just need to wait for Sweetwater to send my ToneX.

Great videos! Can’t wait to try it out.

Honestly the tones are so close, so VERY close that it wouldn't make a difference in a live mix. Possibly in a recording but nobody would notice in a live situation. I'm leaning towards the ToneX because it's really similar to what I use for my setup. I use a Quilter Superblock UK on my pedal board. So the ToneX would be much closer in convenience to me. I'm seriously impressed.

Good job Steve! The captures are really close honestly. As far as an all in one unit, the QC, hands down!

Man i love how your LP looks ;D

I mainly use Helix and Boss Core GT1000. By the time I get a new computer, Tonex 2 will be out ! Thanks for your great channel , playing and personality 👍🏆

I don't find captures that compelling in practice. I pick an amp model that produces the sound I want and then use the amp controls, often using scenes to change parameters for different songs. I suppose if you want to use a lot of captures and do a lot of preset switching, ToneX could work. But I don't prefer that approach for live playing. I also think that using analog pedalboards with ToneX or Quad Cortex has to be done carefully to avoid driving the inputs too hard and getting digital clipping. For my purposes, Quad Cortex provides a good overall solution for amps and effects. But ToneX is certainly a nice option.

Thank you Steve for this video. The biggest difference I feel between the 2 is about dynamics and envelopes. The more distorted is the sound the more is squashed in Quad Cortex, as in many other similar devices. It looks that TONEX better preserves details regarding envelopes. I suppose this means that it better represents the transfer function on all frequencies at different audio levels even if distorted sounds have not a linear transfer function

The ToneX pedal comes with the ToneX software AND Amplitube 5, so you can build a bunch of patches, with effects and store them on the device. It's obviously limited in number of foot switches, but I believe you could add on additional ones somehow and turn it into something very capable and similar to the QC.

Interesting vid Steve! ToneX Seemed to have less body than the QC, which then in turn made the QC come across a bit woofier with the ODR. Makes sense. ToneX seems like a winner for a lot of people. Wish it'd do stereo in, but I understand my use case might not be the norm and most are fine running mono direct 🙂

I do like my QC but my biggest issue is and has been the waiting game for the desktop editor which IK has ALWAYS had for Amplitube and ToneX. Now that this ToneX pedal has come out for me the QC will likely go on the shelf hoping updates will be coming including editor and also being able to integrate their plugins. Like you said the QC can do far more but I kind of like that the fact that Tonex is basically JUST your amp. You can then add effects of your choice in front of it and STILL just bring a pedal board and not bring your amps. Also like you said because it's so cheap you can easily buy 2 ToneX units (for backup and have it ready to go should something go wrong) and still be far cheaper than the QC. Again I DO like my QC and it for sure can do a complete rig (effects, etc) but the fact they came out with the ToneX pedal is just awesome. Thanks Steve!

Just a little something in the high end on the quad. Definitely prefer the tone x though. They are both very close though.I just picked up a tonics about a month ago and absolutely Love it! My first patch on it is a DC-30 and that thing sounds killer

... yeah... they're really close. I'm glad I'll have both. 🙂 Good video Steve! I also get that our ears can play games with us with respect to which is better. I think your summary with respect to Use Cases and which device serves each is on the mark.

The high end you describe is the exact issue with every single amp sim. It's deeper than that, that "feeling" of it being too overly in your face applies to all frequencies and you can really start to notice it if and when you mix. While amp sims have improved A LOT, they can still feel like just an EQ'd digital white noise as compared to the real deal. They'll be a combination of too boomy, muddy, middy, harsh, and hissy. Eq'ing all that out just hollows out the tone, and you start chasing your tail. I think that's the the reality of an IR being a single static capture and then amp sims still needing more and more processing power to get closer to all the detail of real distortion. When you're talking about the string separation section, on the QC I hear a painfully glowing OOOOOOOOOO in the mids for every note you hit in that chord arpeggio. That volume of that frequency never changes; constantly just a wall of it. You can hyper focus on almost any frequency and kinda have the same effect. The Tonex does a great job of pulling back on those issues from what I hear in this. I hear that it reacts frequency wise more naturally responsive as if the speaker or amp is responding to the adjustment of frequency response from the guitar as opposed to just having all frequencies on all the time. Overall just another layer of focus and one step further away from EQ'd digital white noise. I guess the question is "How far does it need to be for it to be useable?". Many will say QC is significantly more than enough. As someone who hears professional records and wonder why I can't achieve THAT expensive guitar tone that I like without the expensive wall analog gear and amps/cabs, I'm needing closer like the Tonex. Thanks for the vid!

I’m still getting the ToneX brother! Can’t wait until they get in stock!🎸

Tone x is 24 bit at 192khz and has a plugin for in the studio for many it will be the best option with the bonus of it costing 4x's less then Quad cortex or Kemper.

Yes, the ToneX definitely sounds more realistic in your comparison. Which is not that surprising, IMHO the capturing process is much more streamlined. What I seriously miss in the ToneX capturing process is the possibility to capture in-the-box amps or whole pedal/amp/console emulations. E.g. I have the excellent Otto Audio 11 11 11 11 and would like to use the amp sounds that I can create there in a device like the ToneX. As of now, I can not find a way to easily do that. I would have to deal with interface loopbacks etc. It would be great, if I could capture a VST chain as well, to capture exactly the sound of a studio production and use it on stage. I also would like to have a dedicated DI out XLR. Also, a reverb is nice, but I would love to have JUST a delay additionally, and it would buy me in instantly. Still, the sound really beats the Quad Cortex. And, since the model IS more realistic, the Kemper as well. I know a producer who sold and re-bought the Kemper at least 4 times, because he is never sure if it really is a good replacement for the real thing. I am pretty sure, the ToneX would end that discussion. Last but not least, the neuronal network modeling used in ToneX is also used in some freeware/open source software/hardware, esp. the Proteus and NeuralPi of GuitarML. This guy did it definitely right, and everyone with an affinity to electronics and computers can build a device like the ToneX, PLUS the option to build in an effects chain. Because .... the modeling only takes around half of the Pi's processing capacity, with reverb and delay after the modeler. So, there is room for more pre and post effect prosessing. And, you can feed the model learning with just several recorded audios, and even have a parameter to change the model dynamically, like e.g. a functional "GAIN" knob. All works really great, if you are willing to dive into it. The Proteus plugin already did the ToneX job for me on several occasions, just in the process to build the hardware (~200 bucks),,,, Still, there is no final tutorial for that one, but ... if you know electronics a bit, this is a GREAT opportunity.

Hey Steve. I really had trouble hearing any difference in captures from ToneX vs QC (with my audio I/F and Adam Audio studio monitors). I think that it is safe to say that the ToneX can now add a very affordable way to add amp captures to your pedal board instead of hauling the amps to every gig. I personally use the Quad Cortex as an all in one amp and effects unit with the best user interface on the market and therefore for me, comparing the two units is like apples and oranges as far a features and price. Thanks for a great demo of the captures, I am every impressed by what ToneX offers for the price. Cheers.

I can hear a slight chirp in the real amp and the Tonex capture that the QC failed to capture. But I think it's worth mentioning the QC can run up to 8 captures in a single preset. If you mostly care about just having an amp/cab and pair it with your favorite pedals, then the ToneX will be more than enough.

11:16 dude I was thinking it & then you said it, definitely there’s a difference in definition . In headphones I heard slightly more low energy in the QC that muddies a touch, TX doesn’t seem to have that same (subtle but could probably be EQ’d). Cool vid man, thanks!

Have both in front of me like you. ToneX is better to capture the slo100 I have. And the pedal feel better than QC.. Will keep only the AFX3 and ToneX for now. Sold the kemper, selling the QC.

Its the perfect fit for me. I like using pedals and for me this fits the bill. I can use my favorite stomps and have all my favorite amps in a small foot print. I mean 399 you get the software and the unit. Its really a bargain.

Excellent. Don't think I was really in the Quad market at the moment ($$$$$) but great to see that for what I probably want the Tonex will do the job as well and maybe work with my HX Stomp and other old pedals to free up some its DSP. Very interesting times (good to push the competition).....nicely done, Steve!

Personally, as someone who jumped into digital on the day 1 announcement of the Helix (I also own a QC), I find that I download or purchase captures and use the built-in effects of the unit. Even most players with pedalboards don't have multiple expensive amps. I do agree that NeuralDSP is dragging its feet. I'm sure they're moving a little faster now. Come one Neural - do you want to be most known for being behind? The big question is what about Line 6? They have limited DSP and I can't see them doing years of free updates for its users and then leaving them behind. Maybe a "sidecar" attachment for the Helix is the answer...THAT'S what I am most curious about.

They both sound really good. I own a Kemper and QC and i just bought the Tonex based on all the internet hype. I like the unit but I feel it's more of a "profile player" (somthing that Kemper should have done years ago), albeit a great sounding player. You need to use a computer to capture and then load the sound where the others can profile directly from hardware. Still getting my feet wet with the unit, but for what it is, it's great. Thanx for the content!

i bought this thing the day it came out and i LOVE it. I have an axefx 3, quad cortex, headrush and kemper. i have now captured my Marshall 8100 and my GK 250ML and LOVE the sound i get.

Both sound good to me, except the Tonex has some kind of high end ring to it that isn't present in the QC. Idk if it's noise, but it's like a sharp unpleasant ringing noise everytime you hit a chord. But then again for the money, sounds wonderful.

I use the quad cortex as an all in one plus a strymon big sky. But I ordered the tonex to see if like it better with a small board like you did I the other video. Also quad cortex can run dual amps. I don’t think tonex does that.

I cannot hear enough of a difference that it makes any kind of make-or-break kind of difference. Its so minimal it doesnt matter. I can understand the hair-splitting aspect of a RU-vid video but in a live scenario or in a mix, theres no way anyone could tell. Tonex hardware is a cool unit but limited. Its awesome for simple setups. Only 1 input but doesnt matter for the majority of users. My only big gripe is that theres no 2nd slot for a Tonex boost pedal capture and theres no parallel processing for stereo amps or IRs. Smart of them to leave all of the Capturing tech on your computer so they can make the hardware much cheaper to produce. Theyre both awesome but in different leagues, aside from the fact that they both employ the "capture" kind of amp sim tech. Quad Cortex is way more complex and its up to the user to decide if thats what they need or not.

My own preferences is using Tonex for preamp and purchase a used Pod HD 500x . They are less than 200.00 for the FX. It has over 500 presets, in stomp mode the inside eight buttons are all on/off, has tuner/looper, wah, go from Tonex into the pod, add FX pre or post Tonex. Those who want pedals at home no problem but playing out use the pod with the Tonex. Total cost; 600.00 compared to 1850.00 for the QC. Yes everyone has their preferences though. On a budget, or price is no object. You get to decide, options are great.

I imported a killer Matchless Independence capture from tonenet into the Tonex pedal Then plugged that into send1/return 1 of my Quad Cortex and created a killer patch with boost pedal, delay, and reverb. I’m having a nightmare getting the QC to control the Tonex pedal via midi I would like to have other patches like this, which is easy to create , but I have to manually change the tone model until I figure it out. This setup sounds amazing, will be a killer compact pedal board rig once I figure out the switching.

What about two ToneX pedals? One for amps and the other for OD, distortion, fuzz, and boost pedals?

In overall sound quality and closeness to the amps it seems Tonex has a miniscule edge over QC. For me it's Tonex for most amps into my HXFX/Stomp combo for effects and the occasional amp 2. But I think you said there was zero lag switching so maybe Helix just for FX

Perhaps it's my 50 year old ears or RU-vid compression, but I struggle to hear a difference. However, I think a bigger factor when comparing these two is the future availability of captures on their respective clouds. QC has had a year or two of advantage, but I'm thinking that perhaps by next year ToneX is going to have far more captures on its cloud, given the affordability and convenience, and particularly given that you only need to have a 100-150 $ software to make new captures. And I say this as a QC owner. Neural should quickly come out with the desktop editor, make the capturing process more clear as you point out, integrate their commercial plugins as they promised back in the day, and perhaps also release a capture / playback affordable software-only solution as well, if they want to compete.

An amazing piece of kit for sure but I’ve decided personally to hold out for the Amplitube 5 hardware box (fingers crossed)

I don't currently own either so no bias here. The QC has arguably slightly better sound quality (especially with newest OS 3.0 update), it has great pedals, pedal modeling, great intuitive touch screen ui, way more i/o (mic inputs, effects loops, etc), multiple fx paths that leverage that i/o, the hardware itself is super powerful and intended to be future proof in terms of future upgrades, and since you released this video the new 3.0 update and editor have solved a lot of the issues the QC was having. Oh, and it's $250 cheaper now @ $1600 MSRP. So while the Tonex is a great platform, I'd go with the QC if those things mentioned are a concern for you.

cool video and comparison, for me given the format i feel it's more of a competition for the Iridium/UA 65/Dream/Walrus amp sim in a box pedals out there, obviously the modelling pits it against a Kemper/QC, but outside of reverb/NG/compressor it's not really an all in one box like those units, and is priced accordingly, awesome to get more options in any case on the lower gain comparisons at 4-6 minutes i was hearing some kind of pinging noise in the hi-end on the capture not sure why that was

Honestly I ALMOST regret getting the QC last summer as I'm not a big Neural fan and there are many things lackluster in QC. But it is just too convenient to bring to a gig versus a combination board of my HX Effects + Tonex (I already have HX FX and now ordered Tonex pedal). Convenience as a working musician still keeps me with QC and it is a good piece of gear even with my gripes with it...

Thanks Steve. What if you ran the ToneX captures on the QC?

I think Neural need to ramp up the updates .. this notion of "things coming soon" isn't good enough on a unit at this price point - and be afraid Neural ...IK seems to have everything sorted at release time. And hopefully you can actually go buy a Tonex Pedal and not have to wait around for stock.

This is a wake up call for the amp capture units like Kemper and QC

At times, I could hear very little difference between the two. Where I did was at the beginning half of your video, and the Quad had that unpleasant 4k harshness😳. Already having the Helix and adding a Tonex seems a better choice than the Quad IMO. Good work 👏 Thanks, Gale

Kemper has pretty solidified its position in the hardware profiling, modeling arena. QC seems to have such a strong fanboy/HATE base. Yes you are correct that the Tone X is a killer to the QC emotional rollercoaster we have witnessed.

really enjoyed the video you did with the hx stomp controlling the toneX thinking of doing the same with my gt1000core. seems to me that for about 800.00 less you could have something similar to the QC

I put the Tonex in my Helix loop, Wow so much easier to get a good amp tone, I A/B the stock amps and it's crazy how much crisp and clearer the Tonex is

They're all pretty great. It's a great time to be a musician for sure. Some people swear by profiles/captures a la Kemper, QC, Tonex. It's cool I guess, if you have beloved amps etc that you want to take with you. Personally, I have no use for it, as I prefer high quality component modeling. In the Fractal world, there's almost nothing that you can't create with the palette of onboard amps & cabs. Factor in world class effects, a killer software editor (if you want to use it) and frequent firmware updates and improvements... for me the choice was easy. I could see the Tonex as a killer addition to a small board with other effects, but now you have a bigger footprint than an FM9 or Helix. IMO, the tonex would compete against an FM3, ie similar size, and 3 buttons... however the FM3 has all of those great effects. To each their own tho. You can't beat the Tone X price/value. That's pretty killer. They all sound pretty great tho - just pick what feature set works best for you.

in my studio, the ToneX has a ground issue/ringing in the high end and is much thinner sounding than the Quad. Quad cortex has a ton of low mid body to the sound the ToneX didn't have at all on the DC30. Quad was also dead silent. ToneX has such a weird sound through the whole thing in this video. I'm typing and then watching more of the video and its so weird the ringing/high pitch ring happening with the ToneX. You didn't label a change around 11:25 and I knew you switched to the ToneX based on that weird high pitch ringing. Either way, Thanks for the video, I'm pretty confidently going with the Quad C after this. Solid AB process on this.

There is a difference I noticed with the nobels. The cortex is "cleaner" but the tone x is "scronggier"? Still really close and both sound good. It's up to us to decide if that translation matters in a mix and live

Sounds the same! But the cool thing with the Quad Cortex is you can then have...6 Captures of you amps and drive/OD pedals in the Same preset and switch true with scenes, that is the big selling point. + when it sounds the same, but the capture time on the QC is 5 mins, and the ToneX is 15-20-30-60 minutes and that comes down to what spec you have in your PC/MAC.

Tonex pedal in QC loop for more amps? I personally have no problem with QC for live and felt like it sounded much better than I could ever get my Helix to sound. Glad to see more options on the market, though.

Just had a look on TGP for sale forum. Two QC's got listed today and additional two were already listed bringing it to a total of 4 QC's currently up for sale on it.

I am going to get a tonex and put it in the loop of my es8 and run it into my power amp of my mark 5. Its going to give me access to so many great amps

Good review Steve. Looking forward to see what both IK and NDSP bring forward. While you're on the "profiling" topic, the free / open-source NAM's a *lot* more accurate than both of these but it's only plugin form.

There's something very weird happening, here : when the guitar's running through the Tone X (and not the QC), we can hear some high pitch sounds giving the impression that there's a tambourine rattling just next to the mic capturing the sound. It's very disturbing. I wonder what causes that. Otherwise, great video, mate.

Great video... I'm really considering a Tonex and hoping there is a "community" with the Tonex that makes "captures" available like the Kemper... PAGING MICHAEL BRITT....

The high end fizz is done with a high cut 😊

Tonex sounds better to me. Great video thanks!

Very educational video. I heard slight differences, but I find it's hard to distinguish And with the price difference, the ToneX is quite interesting. Question, can you use a HX Stomp as the capture interface. I thought it is a re-amp box, and assume can plug in mics to it's inputs and use it's send/returns and outs to drive the profiling signal to the amp. Just wondering as it would save me the $250 for the capture box.

I think it would have been much better if the Tonex Pedal had a Send Return loop for your other pedals,it would make your pedal board setup more complete this way!I just had another thought,if anyone has a older guitar effects floorboard like the Boss GT-3,GT-6 or other guitar processors with a Send Return loop this would be a good way to use the Tonex Pedal with all the good boss effects!I still have a Boss GT-3 and i might just try it myself with the Tonex if i decide to get one!The Boss GT Floorboards let you put your effects units(like the Tonex) in any order in the effects chain!

The best thing about the ToneX is you are not sacrificing tone quality. What I heard was equal. In a recording situation my DAW covers any extras with plug-ins so a good 90% of what the Quad does is simply unnecessary. In the end who uses more than 5 amps to do the tunes they play? Yes you can get picky with the right 5 but with what the unit has, what you can download to buy or even get free must certainly cover all the bases. I got by with pedals and a single amp for years. No one went home because my amp sound didn't cut it.

They sound really close, that´s true, and from the price point this is a no-brainer choice. BUT I find the ToneX flatter sounding and more compressed, and there is a tiny bit weird hi-pitched noise ringing on the ToneX sounds. Or is it just me hearing it?

I'm planning on keeping my QC and buying a Tonex Pedal. I can see using the Tonex pedal when I don't need an all in one solution. I play in different tributes and cover bands as well as churches. Some situations require a more complex setup. Others require very little. I think it's getting down to splitting hairs when comparing capturex. I know you're just comparing just the captures, but comparing the overall units, it really turns into comparing apples to oranges. As you said, the Tonex is primarily an amp capture device. It's probably not going to grow much further than that. The QC is all in one and has a lot of room to grow, albeit slowly up to this point. I totally understand the frustration some have over the slow firmware update. It's not affecting me that much because I just purchased it back in November, but I do understand the irritation of promises taking forever to become reality. I also understand setbacks, and knowing that the UI and directory was completely overhauled, I can understand why it would take time for all of that, especially since they are a small company, so I wasn't too put off by it. I think I was more put off by a lack of transparency. I feel like they could have eased the tension more if they had someone like Digital Igloo (Eric from Line 6, answering questions , keeping people posted, and putting out fires. Hopefully, since this big overhaul update is finished, they can focus on the promises they hopefully plan to keep!

I’m listening to this on a set of Bowers and Wilkins PX7’s …. Not exactly shit cans. The TX sounds less gainy (is that a word?) than the QC. It’s not by much but it’s there. Seems like something you can account for going into the capture though? I’m looking into getting one of these capture boxes so I don’t have to lug my head to two different practice spots for two different bands. Also, at 39, dragging that shit to gigs is getting old …… like me.

Man IK media being the amazing under dog here!!

Splitting hairs on tone and comparing apples to oranges on use cases and features brother. They both sound fantastic and are very different products kudos to IK Multimedia for capitalising on the one biggest selling feature of the QC which is its capture. what you should be saying is if you want to spend $650 for an amp capture pedal then the ToneX is king but if you want an all in one gigging and capture solution the QC reings supreme. BTW I own both and you can easily adjust volume on the QC on the fly it's one tap on screen and turn of the corresponding pedal switch.

It´s almost impossible to tell the difference, specially with RU-vid compressing. Plus I think in a mix no one will be able to tell what is what.

I'm using Helix for the long time and now I'm using both Helix + ToneX

QC has just a little more oomf than the ToneX. I can hear it, but can that be fixed with some EQ? Probably.

I grew tired of hauling all my crap to rehearsals and then back home. One rig for this, one rig for that, the logistics were a nightmare. I chose to simplify. Line 6 Relay G10 wireless into the Helix, one cable from the Helix into the Thomas Blug Amp1 Iridium with it's own foot controller, then one cable to a EVH 2x12 cab. That's it. If you guys have not tried out the Iridium amp your missing the best in life. A 4 channel, 100w tube amp with all the features like effects loop, controls for each channel and the thing is the size of an EHX multi-effect pedal. My amp and pedals on one board. Two cables total, one instrument and one speaker. I have it all into one power strip mounted to the board, so only one 120v power plug needed. The speaker cab is on 6" diameter air filled rubber tires so that is the "truck", the board and guitar case go on top and my whole rig rolls smoothly and the tires isolate the cab from the floor. I also made a pulling latch that hooks up to the steering end so I can tow it, or push. It has made my life so much better, and the tones I can get are studio grade.

00:55 "they're a little bit behind on updates." - Neural DSP has just released a gigantic v2.0 update in January.

Hi Steve, I stumbled upon your channel a couple of days ago and instantly subscribed. What pedal would you recommend to go alongside the ToneX? I'm not a professional(as yet) but intend to take it up seriously and wanna build a rig that should last me a couple of years without having to worry about upgrading anything. I was torn between line 6 Pod Go & Headrush MX5 before I heard about ToneX. Would love to know your thoughts, thanks!

I don’t think these units compete directly, yes they both capture but the quad cortex is intended to be an all in one unit, if it’s successful at that it’s up to the user, the tone x is intended to be used with other pedals. The quad cortex has a lot to improve, for an all in one I think I would prefer a fractal FM9. For capturing the tone x is hard to beat for the price.

It's pretty close in sound and cost per feature. I don't want to lug a pedal board, but I would like to hear my Tonex captures with no latency, so I'll get the Tonex box but I'll gig the Quad Cortex.

I'm a Helix guy but I like the idea of the Tonex. It could put an end to the overpriced processors.

Have you not noticed the volume knob on the QC? And, you say you’re going to compare the Tonex feature set to the Quad Cortex but you’re not going to talk about what the QC does above and beyond the Tonex? Also, many of us have been gigging successfully with the Quad Cortex for years. If you say it’s not gig ready I’ll say that’s a Steve problem, not a QC problem.

I’ve been using helix floor I’m really thinking to buy a tonex and blue sky etc I’ll save money and I’ll improve my tone

Not a chance. Neural has confirmed that all the archetypes will be available shortly for the QC, it’s wireless and has an incredible cloud. The QC will eventually replace all modelers. Wait and see.

IMO the real question is: will NAM kill all the profilers or will they adopt it like IR and we'll ve able to use profiles in whatever we want?

I feel that quad cortex is better

I just hear a really really high sort of a snare drum string rattling sound on the ToneX.

My ears rate the Tone X superior in accuracy. I’m impressed

If you only play at home, and have plug ins or even the tonex software on my computer with studio monitors. Is there any reason to get this pedal? Is the pedal more for people on the go?

ToneX is definitely a great unit and it sure can capture anything you put in it. However I still think that QC sounds better...... just a little bit better but better. I believe Neural DSP will deliver everything they promised to their customers and the next level the QC will be a killer machine.

Bear in mind That the Tonex is kind of a BETA app, hopefully we get an update soon. (for little more easy fine tweaking in computer 😋

Steve, you have a lot more patience than I have. I sold my QC about 10 months ago do to lack of updates and promised features that still haven't arrived! I went Kemper Rack and have never looked back. I think IK Multimedia is killing it lately! The big boys I'm sure are being forced to go back to their drawing boards in hopes of countering IK advancements.

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For the price hell yah

I hear a fuller sound from the QC especially in the low mids.

Which one has "chewiness" of a real amp??? No one talks about that

Theres a fullness to the tone x I’m not hearing from the qc.. why don’t you use the fm9 live anymore?

ToneX looks like a great pedal but I need an FX loop so this is a no go for me .. maybe the next version will have it

Cortex is like having something artificial in its sound. Tonex sounds better imho

I use fractal and I love the authenticity of tone and feel they achieve. How did the tonex compare?