Will Tyrion Betray Daenerys In Season 8? | Game of Thrones Season 8 

Tyrion didn’t even need to betray her D&D had that covered

"Never forget what you are." Tyrion shan't forget he's a Lannister.

No character has pushed down as many dominos as Tyrion Lannister *Peter Baelish: Hold my Littlefinger*

Sir Barriston could have been awesome. I wish we could see some of his legendary fights. Maybe in a prequel series.

Yeah, no. It would take excellent writing and time management to have a big plot twist. I don't have enough trust in the writers and show runners to believe they can pull that off in season 8.

I actually take back my comment below. Not only will Tyrion Betray Danny....but he will betray her WITH JON!! Jon has behaved like Ned Stark and Rob (honor first) so far.....but has the legitimate right to the thrown and I have a feeling Danny won't give it up and her dark side will come too strong. IT will be a heart wrenching betrayal that gives us the promised 'bitter sweet' ending. It may not even come in the form of a straight backstab......but a choice to save dany when she's counting on Jon or save Kings Landing and Tyrion Convinces Jon to save kings landing knowing Dany will die.

Lmao well that idea about the night king cleaning the slate was wrong 😂😂😂

I think people are reading too much into Season 8. I highly doubt that it'll be that convoluted.

Tyrion will betray dany for sansa

Doesn't Danny's servant maid servent betray her in season two by siding with Zaro Zhon Doszozoz (whoever his name is)

Love this channel love their content pumped for season 8 keep up the good work guys

they dumb him down really hard to make Dany and the rest of the characters seems smart.. also Varys is mute now lmao

Another great video essay. I really enjoy the podcasts but I think videos like this and your Godfather video are your best content.

Dude.. It's Varys and Littlefinger the ones that " pushed the most dominoes ". What show have you been watching?

You sound like Brian from Family Guy

That drawing of a fully grown Rhaego with his silver braid was dope af.

Even if Tyrion betrays Dany, he will still be my favorite character.

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If the showrunners take the story in this direction I will be very impressed. It might even justify season 7's more cliche story, having that add to the impact of the subversion.

Tyrion got boring at the same time everyone else did - at the moment they decided to cave in to the 12 year olds, and turn it into the Jon and Dany show. Used to be "Nobody is safe", now it's "Oooh I wonder if they'll have twins and what colour her wedding dress will be, after Jon turns into a boring superhero and saves the day with a lightsaber". The best thing that can happen in Winds of Winter, is for Jon's body to be burned. People suddenly seem to think they're watching/reading a fairytale.

FINALLYYYYY been waiting for these season 8 buildups from y’all for foreverrrr

My money is on Tyrion, Varys betrayal combo. Varys paying the ultimate price and burning alive. Although I find it interesting you didn't mention Missandei. I think of her as a good wild card. I thought the reference about her NOT being a slave an interesting one. What if her and Greyworm end up wanting to leave her service? Probably never going to happen but still.

*HOLY MIND BLOWN !!!* I never realized that THAT could have been the reason for Tyrion’s concerned look when Jon went into Daenerys’s room for the bumpy time!!! I was one of those that briefly thought he was jealous. Now there’s no doubt... he made a pact with Cersei! He had to have! Liked and subscribed. This is literally the first GOT video that I went “WHOA 🤭!!!”

It's also possible that Daenerys's idea of "breaking the wheel" doesn't exactly align with Tyrion's. Perhaps she wants to create a strong, central, absolutist monarchy.

Dany has more of her father's madness than people realize

as Tyrion said to Catelyn : "I would never bet against my family"

I don;t really care if he betrays her, I just don't want him to die

Oh it's happening. Tyrion will betray Dany and Jon, Varys will too. If you notice on one of the season 8 GOT promo pics you can see Varys looks to be handcuffed and has a sword above his head.

Dany has been acting more and more like a true conqueror, and when she killed the Tarley's I think that's when Tyrion flipped. I believe he is right now on the outs with Dany and anything could happen. Truthfully Dany should have put the Tarleys in chains. They would make excellent hostages or ransomers.

Tyrion is the coolest character on the show my fav.

"Well explain that in another episode" you dont have that much time left.

Tyrion is stupid now because GRRM hasn't written him for the past 3 seasons. Love your channel, btw.

I literally was like I need something to watch real fast, never been so happy to see a notification in a long time. Thank you guys for these videos. Exactly one week to go we've got this ;)

I have been waiting for Nerd Soup to do a video on this! I trust this channel for the really well thought out theories. I agree that I just don’t see it happening. For all the arguments made here, that there doesn’t seem to be enough time, but also for the sheer fact that Tyrion HATES his sister. And now that Jaime has joined him in the North there’s no way Tyrion would risk that by taking Cersei’s side. Thanks for your awesome content!!

So. I'm calling Danerys finding out (if she doesn't know already) Jon is the real heir and rightful ruler, is going to push her into becoming the mad Queen. In the books it says she will be betrayed by 3 things, you say. The last being love. I'm calling it is HER love for Jon that will betray her and her aspirations to the iron throne. And not being able to give up both will end her rule. And possibly life

George's liking towards Tyrion is evident in the fact that he is the only character to have a book full of solely his witty oneliners titled "the wit and wisdom of Tyrion Lannister" published.

Jon of the House Targaryen, the one who returned from the dead, the First of His Name, King of the Andals and the First Men, Lord of the Seven Kingdoms, and Protector of the Realm.

You keep talking about Daenerys not being able to have a baby cause of the prophecy but how will Jon be able to have a kid when he is a dead thing (for lack of a better word). Everyone so far in the books and show has talked about how you "don't come back the same" after dying. Berric, LS (in the books) but Jon seems to be the EXACT same person in the show. I think him not being able to have kids while Dany can (no idea how they'd test this in Westeros) would be a great curveball in a show that no longer has them due to very poor writing and not being able to copy George.

11:00 just noticed Drogo's eye twitch, he never died guys

Tyrion might just be concerned about Danny and John bc it’s gonna cause a whole bunch of unneeded Drama, and he doesn’t even know their related...

More like who won't Daenerys stab in the back or double cross or just change her mind about to get the Iron Throne as all those seasons in Essos proved she's gonna be an awful ruler.

He will betray her but fail in the process, he will get discovered. Justice for Ser barriston , he should of been next to Danys side coming to westroes.

Episode 3 will be the battle for Winterfell. Look at the directors for clues.

That’s a neat theory I enjoyed listening but she’s already had her three betrayals you were right about the blood witch but Doreah and Xaro was the betrayal of gold and Jorah was the betrayal of love

I don't hate Dany, but it will make me happy to see her knocked down a few pegs when she hears who Jon really is and that he comes before her in the line of secession. But at this point, I don't think it makes sense for Tyrion to betray Daenerys. Jaime is heading to Winterfell and he has no love for Cersei. He may be concerned about how the relationship between Jon and Daenerys because he doesn't think the match is wise, but I don't think it will cause him to turn against them.

Wow! A new upload! 👍 (I've been watching every Game of Thrones video on this channel over and over lately new is good!)

Jorah never betrayed Daenerys. He betrayed Robert.

14:20 Do you think Benjin knew Jon’s true heritage or just a line hinting at the future reveal? Or maybe both.

The reason Tyrion looks concerned dates back to season 6. It's why he wanted Daario to stay in Meereen. Tyrion didn't want her to get with a low born man. And as far as Tyrion knows Jon is a bastard. That's why Tyrion looks concerned.

I haven’t even started the video, but I’ve already liked this video

Are you really giving Thyrion the fault for Myrcellas and Tommens deaths? Yes, he killed Tywin, but if he hadn't, Cersei would've been married to Loras and be in Highgarden. She is Queen because Tywin died. Myrcella would've died even if Tywin didn't die. And Tommen goes 100% on Cersei. She could've easily saved Margaery if she wanted. She took Tommens death as a necessity to get rid of the Tyrells and the High Sparrow, since she already knew, that her children would die.

She wants to break the wheel yet the whole reason she feels she deserves the throne is because she’s the next in succession since the Mad King was killed. 😑

The love will be that of his love for Sansa. Not that Sansa is attracted to him but she respects him and she knows he would treat her right. Possibly Dany can't handle the admiration others have for Sansa and she becomes jealous, and Tyrion sides with Sansa.

I think Jon Snow will betray Daenerys. Just my thought. Well the "Lightbringer" lore leads me to that, if I heard it right.

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Aegon did betray her for love, he told his "sisters" who he really is.

Perhaps the opening scene of the season will be about the 3 betrayals, similar to when we see Cersai's opening scene meeting Maggie the frog.

Omg, Cersei has a baby, Dany wants to kill the baby, Tyrion kills Dany to save the baby?!

The third betrayal will be her own dragon(s)

I definitely don't think that killing the Tarly's was rash. You're in a battle, the other side wants to kill you, the other side loses. You kill them (because they lost) and that's rash to you? Randall Tarly literally only gave her one option and she took it. I also don't think that "breaking the wheel" means democracy in her case. She just means a more fair/just system not abolishing the monarchy. If she had any intent to destroy the monarchy she wouldn't walk around talking about her right to the throne.

2:47 Em sorry what? Almost everything that happened in the show happened cause of Littlefinger.

this theory is mute since the directors may or may not use this logic, they will probably go with the most shocking script

Does Danaerys vision mean, she will not have the throne but she will have a family? It doesn't really matter it was Kal Drogo in the vision, it could just be symbolic as he is what represents family, love and a child to her.

At around 15:04, you say that Cersei has a condition and asks of Jon that he bend the knee and pledge fealty to Cersei. I don't think that's what she asks. I think she asks the King in the North to remain neutral (in the episode 7.7, Cersei says at 24:53 "He will not choose sides")... Jon then says he already pledged to Daenerys, hence can't remain neutral. Love your work, keep it up!

He already did betray her. Daenarys can't have children, Tyrion made a deal with Cersei to support Cersei's child when Daenarys is dead. Which is why Tyrion looked so concerned when Jon and Dany were alone in her ships cabin. Thinking about Cersei and Tyrion's last conversation makes it all the more believable, Tyrion is filled with grief over the deaths of Tommen and Myrcella and this is his way of proving to his sister that was never truly what he wanted. Despite what Cersei may have thought all along, Tyrion loves his family.

What if danerys betrayal of love is rheghal leaving her for Jon snow and not obeying her anymore since Jon is the true King

I don't think Tyrion was boring i never felt bored neither in season 6 or season 7 i think the fact that the woman that he loved, his family and the people that he actually saved said lies to help with his execution and then him killing Shae and his Father was a big blow to his soul and something changed in him and in season 7 he looks changed he looks like the guy that just went thru hell and tries to come back ! Still his battle plan was a bit terrible but that's his second battle plan in his life of course he will fail Jaime is way more experienced !

I'll never forgive DnB for what they did to George's storylines. I still like the show but I won't be as enchanted as I was during seasons 1-5, a lot of the reasons why are outlined here

This channel is the best thing about Game of Thrones, aside from the episodes themselves .

If Jon & Dany have a kid it will be half zombie. Not sure a half Targarian half incest zombie would make a great king.

Jorah didn’t betray her for gold. He betrayed her for a pardon. The fact that Dany believes she knows who/what the first two betrayals are makes it less likely they’re correct. Also I think that part can only be decoded in the context of the ENTIRE prophecy, which can only be decoded by reading both that part and the part with the visions the undying show her when she doesn’t understand the words of the prophecy. 3 fires 3 mounts 3 betrayals

Dany should learn a thing or two from Jaehaerys and Alysanne. They were beloved by all the people of the realm(after they dealt with some rebalions)

Jon Snow will never not do his duty. Jon has given up love and died for duty. If he feels that Dany is going to betray what he stands for, he will do what duty demands even if he suffers for it. It may be that Jamie/Cersei will be mirrored by Jon/Dany. As for Tyrion, it may be that he has been fundamentally broken by his screwed up family. I don't think he would deliberately betray Dany, but he has suffered mentally and like Theon, (broken physically), I'm not sure he can come back from the realisation that Dany may not be all she is cracked up to be.

Everyone keeps skipping this possibility, but I whole heartedly believe Danny is turning mad. Like her father. And Jon will haved to kill her. Everything that's currently hinting the end of the show supports this

Great analysis! One of my “must haves” for season 8 is the truth of the Tysha lie to be told. Oh and Jon saying DRACARYS! 🔥🎉

I don't how this blue cricket can talk or upload videos to RU-vid, but damn, things got theories

She’s not pregnant.. straight up lie

Is season 5 gonna be completed? As always great job guys:):)

He's in love with her so no. It's that simple.

Episode 3* is the Battle of Winterfell

The show should just be done with all that thing of breaking the wheel it's just too idealistic and stupid. As someone who came from a third world country democracy just doesn't work in a world where 90% of the people don't know how to read a word or can't tell what is good for them. They could go with a less direct from of democracy which would end on something like the roman republic but not only that wouldn't break the wheel but it would just be a bigger nastier version of the small council. Also aegon the conqueror didn't build the wheel the seven kingdoms and their kings were already around before his family even arrived in dragonstone in the contrary I'd say he made things better by ending a lot of the wars between said kingdoms but great video nonetheless.

Tyrion will kill Cersei my opinion

I'm glad they cut things like the Tisha & Tyrion book-story. The GOT showrunners have done a brilliant job of not making the main players one-dimensional cartoon-like villains.

She did not kill Khal Drogo or her son. Targaryens have miscarriages all the time and they typically end up scaly and malformed like Maegor the cruel and even her mother's stillborn children. Khal Drogo had a fever that infected his brain. And Danny was banging Dario on and off for years and never got pregnant Wait wait wait love is new to jon?what was his Time with Ygritte a Spring-Break fling? Cercie asks Jon to stay neutral that's not bending the Knee. She is in fact treating him as an equal sovereign not a vassal. The Mother of Dragons Slayer of Lies, prophesy is not in the show, at all your making things up now guys....😑 Tyrion lost a legal trial of combat, shit happens.

Cercei did not ask John to bend the knee, she asked that he stays neutral.

Littlefinger has definitely had the biggest impact on events. Littlefinger was the architect in the death of Jon Arryn, which started the destabilization of the realm, while also having Lysa Arryn send the letter to her sister starting the conflict between the Starks, and the Lannisters. He started the lie about the catspaw dagger which further solidifies the Stark/Lannister conflict and causes Catelyn to kidnap Tyrion, which ultimately leads to the war of the 5 kings. He double crossed Ned Stark which ultimately leads to his death. He orchestrated the purple wedding, which leads to the death of Joffrey, and sends Sansa away causing speculation that she had a part in his murder, and because he knows she's the key to the north. He kills Lysa Arryn, taking control of the Vale. Marries Sansa off to the Boltons, and uses the Vale to defeat the Boltons at the battle of the bastards. I'm pretty sure I'm missing a few things. And his dagger ends up being the weapon used to defeat the Night King! I don't think anyone had a bigger impact than Petyr Baelish.

Dany already suffered the 3 betrayals. In the show at least. Mirri Maz Duur, killed Drogo, Doreah sold Dany out in Qarth and Jorah sold her out for King Rober.

If Tyrian betrays Danny fir love. It could be the love of sansa stark. Alternatively Jon may betray her for the love of humanity. Bitch be crazy 🤣🤣🤣🐉🐉🐉 I think sansa and Danny will have a faceoff. Tyrian will be on team sansa.

I think this is the wrong question. Tyrion won't betray Daenerys... Daenerys will betray Tyrion and go all mad king on everyone.

LOL people seem to forget that there was no "wheel" UNTIL the rebellion. once the rebellion started, thats when the wheel begun turning. having the Targaryens back on top in the end Would "break" the current wheel of power. now the term "break the wheel" could be used in a bigger sense as in regards to the long night, since that is apart of the "wheel" of history. it happened before and it's happening again.

Tyrion betraying Daenerys? He would never do that...to her.

I just don't understand why Tyrion would support Cersei, a woman who has been cruel to him just as much as their father. Even if she is his sister, Tywin was his father, and we know how that worked out. Tyrion may not always support Daenerys but betraying her for Cersei seems so wrong and out of character to me...

Oh I’m so excited to see a GOT video from y’all! But I DO feel that Tyrion will betray her. I think he will feel threatened by her being close with Jon

I'd say it's a definite possibility, I don't think he's gotten boring though, maybe it's just me but I'll always like his character. 6 more days to go until S8!!!

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He better not do anything bad bc I named my puppy after him

Tyrion's betrayal was predicted by the one and only FRIKIDOCTOR moths ago!

Tyrion better f*cking not

Personally I think the betrayal will be from Varys. The red witch eluded to it when meeting both Tyrion and Varys.

Tyrion has been betraying her since season 6, sadly. He purposely weakened her so that she wouldn't go straight to Kings landing and get what she deserves. No one would have been able to contest her. Instead the use her to save them from the night king then they all betray her.