Will updates to DAS system work? | how bad is it and how did it start? 

that has existed for years. Its the same exact langauge as before or at least was when I went nov 20th and 21st 2023. (DAS user here)

Lol, oh no Disney don’t punish me! They ruined the parks. What loss is it for anyone to get banned at this point. There’s no magic left to be banned from.

If they don’t ask for documentation, a disabled person can’t prove they are disabled. So how are they going to prove that someone is not disabled? I definitely want illegitimate users banned, but also don’t want disabled people to be falsely accused.

@@calebhoward8940 I can't go so far as to be so melodramatic as to say that they "ruined the parks." But I don't disagree that Chapek-era changes have turned the experience of going into something often more grueling than flat-out enjoyable. If Disney doesn't get its head on straight when it comes to guest experience, the ongoing bad PR is really going to take a toll. Hell, it's taking a toll NOW. Being a SoCal resident and long-time Disney parks fan, I now second-guess any thoughts of going, and that never used to be the case.

@@crytsanana3592 They don't ask for documentation because that would be a lawyers dream and they would get sued. The reality is they cannot stop it because anyone can lie. The reality is they made a mistake when they started they decided autism was a valid reason for DAS. If they stuck with the original system where it was only used for guest with mobility problems it was much easier to police. Frankly I don't understand why anyone with a kid with autism that was so extreme they couldn't stand in a line without having a breakdown would be taken to Disneyland... It reminds me of the moronic parent that took their kid to see a Dora the Explorer live show when the kid was so far gone he started freaking out and screaming non-stop as soon as the show started. I know everyone wants to think their kids can do anything... but reality is some cannot.

That's the detail that does concern me a bit. I doubt anybody is going to be banned for doing it the first time, at least not at first. They'll probably have DAS pass access revoked and be warned that if they do it again that there'll be a permanent ban. The reason I say that is that it's probably going to take a bit of time in order to figure out just how accurate the process is for identifying fakes as some of these conditions are going to have significant minorities of people where reasonable medical professionals differ in their opinions.

Yeah, like Brodie the Goldendoodle's owner.

But only one of those groups bother me lol

I have seen a family bring a German Shepherd. I saw one man bring three small dogs. then I saw the frontier gate agent tell a woman her personal item was too big.

@@rtyughvbn12 On a plane? Because they had to have paid for those dogs. The DOT changed the law. You can take dogs on planes you know.

They always punish the Disabled people instead of the abusers. Always.

I'm glad you had a wonderful time with your family! Take care of yourself, and God bless you and yours.

David said the in person place to apply for DAS will be OUTSIDE the gates, and j guarantee you thats why. They want you to have the info on whether you will be approved or not BEFORE yoh make the choice to enter/purchase/use your ticket.

@@morganstremmel9670people like me purchase in advance in order to get deals

Another issue is how bad of a rip off Genie Plus fast lane is. Once you use it on a ride your unable to use it on that same ride for the rest of the day, They act like people don't like to re ride the same.rides in one day. The previous system would allow this and was roughly the same price, so now they Decreased the value but maintained the same price

@@agentmaine8126 I have a lot of issues with the Genie+. It's just too complicated and unless you're absolutely set on running your entire day around the Genie+ wait times, you can wind up getting very little for your money. As expensive as the Universal equivalent is, you know what you're getting. You will get to use it on every covered ride and attraction and the only way to not to get to use it, is if you leave it until too close to closing time to sit through the much shorter waits. But, really, Disney should just bring back fastpasses, give everybody that comes some limited number of them per day and it would take a lot of pressure off the DAS and Genie+ to accommodate too many people. They can probably still charge for Genie+, it might just come in the form of additional fastpasses at a time, or having a set number that are set aside until the last minute.

good point, people will just scream they have a disability and expect Disney to believe them and cry about filing a lawsuit even though they don't understand the law.

It happens almost daily. It’s happened dating all the way back to when I first started working at the parks. I always wonder how these people behave when they have to wait in line at a grocery store or if they are stuck in traffic.

It’s being outsourced and Disney will have not be making decisions. Guests won’t even get in the park before approval.

@@Banjo_Tails From what I understand, the folks that they're outsourcing to should have a lot more knowledge about these conditions that people are talking about and should be in a much better situation to filter out, at least the most, BS of the cases. I'm more concerned about how they'll know who is really cheating it and who either has a difficult to properly assess condition or who has a legitimate belief that the condition applies, but not the thousands of dollars it can take to get a formal diagnosis.

I don't know why anybody would want to be a cast member.

The only way to stop it would be to require documentation. And I don't think that is legal. DAS made it so I could go to the parks. I would not have without it. But people abused it back then too. At one point there were even tour guides using it to take groups in the park.

What’s being abused are families who can’t afford to pay for Genie plus. If Disney really needs more money from guests, then they should just charge it upfront in the ticket price rather than trying to trick people by forcing them to pay extra for the experience that we used to get for free five years ago.

@@RyanWilmot 100% agree!! I'm literally not even mad at the cheaters. I'm a DAS for real user, and I'm incredibly angry, but NOT at the cheaters. No wonder this is all getting crazy since fast pass was taken away. 🤔

Almost every Facebook forum I'm in, someone says their kid needs DAS. It's a continual question and everyone explains how easy it is to get. Autism diagnoses must be at an all-time high.

As someone who requests DAS under my physical issues, I do not feel comfortable outing myself otherwise. Especially after speaking to a CM tonight, who while wonderful, had zero medical training or understanding. The CM asked why I don’t purchase a walker to use while in the parks- that’s what the collapsible cane is for. I have multiple physical issues that aren’t readily apparent. I have never used other issues I have because, again, I do not feel comfortable outing myself. I can imagine that there are plenty of others who feel similar. If there is no training, does that mean that they will move to a functional/nonfunctional sliding scale that is up to a CM that may not understand the nuances of neurodivergence and disabilities?

Disability has a very specific legal definition and so does reasonable accommodation. There is no such thing as a free accommodation legally, only reasonable accommodations under the ADA, which Disney can choose what kind of reasonable accommodation to provide, but they only have to provide one if someone requests it and provides the proper documentation showing that the person an a disability which affects a major life activity and what that disability prevents them from doing. Only then, can Disney know what options it has to allow that person to use the facilities. People don't have a right to choose their reasonable accommodation, they have to accept or reject the one that is offered to them.

The previous fast pass was also superior to this rip off version. I paid for the last one as part of the max pass, and I could fast pass the same ride more than once in one day, but now I can only use it once for each ride per day but still pay the same price. It's basically a rip off

That’s exactly the case. Five years ago, max pass was a thing. People used that instead of DAS as it helped in the same way. If Disney would just allow genie+ as a magic key add-on for a flat fee for the whole year, I’d just pay for that instead of messing with DAS. But there’s no way I feel that $60/day for my wife and I to get on rides is reasonable.

@@davidiwolf I bet if they just made the Lighting lane paid option reusable for each ride more than once per day, it would see a slight decrease in DAS system users. Currently there is no real incentive for genie plus, the whole systems feels like it's trying to control your day in the park more than Guide you. It really feels like a cheap gimmick left over from Chapels poor decisions.

@@tjtennisicmroll2k You are 100% incorrect. It is illegal to charge any kind of fee for a disability accommodation. I mean really, how could you get such a basic thing so wrong? You are also incorrect about choosing accommodations. You can't turn a disabled person away just because you don't want to provide that particular accommodation. It has to be a HARDSHIP to the company to provide for ANY requested accommodation. That means the requested accommodation would (In Disney's case) have to be hugely expensive or completely change operations. You really need to quit while you are behind.

Same 😢

Me too, my dad gets me the pass every time we go because I have severe anxiety especially in social situations, disneyland can become very overwhelming and overstimulating. Lines are hard for me as I have a difficult time being packed in a line with people I don't know, sometimes I get anxious to the point where I make myself sick or worse, have a meltdown. We have had no problem getting these accommodations in the past, but i can't help but worried a cm is gonna take one small glance at me and decide I'm no longer qualified.

@@b0nk370I have to say, for someone like yourself who gets anxious by crowds and lots of people, going to a crowed theme park with lots of people, is willingly putting yourself into a situation that can exacerbate your condition. Why would you want to do that to yourself?

Yes, always.

Wise words my friend 👍

i agree with this. while people have been scared that universal’s system is too complicated etc i’ve found it a lot easier to have myself be pre approved just by a note. for disney, asking for das every 60 days is hard and i’ve had to script a response for me to do it easier. i’m glad it’ll be 120 days now

And their system doesn't even have auto captions and it's too small to read lips!!!

sorry to hear that

Why don’t you buy genie + and get shorter wait times that way?

@@idaUnchainedthe OP shouldn’t have to pay extra to be able to experience Disney without freaking out due to a legitimate medical condition. They didn’t require an accommodation in the past because Disney’s standard policy meet their needs. Disney changed the policy and started charging for the same service. Now they need a reasonable accommodation that doesn’t cause undue hardship on Disney as required by federal law. If OP is put in a position where this could happen and someone is injured because their reasonable accommodation was denied there would be a good argument that Disney is responsible for a portion of the injury.

@@daveg1701 sorry, but that’s just not the law. You should go read Title 3 of the ADA. And if someone does something knowing that they are likely to get injured and then do get injured doing that thing, they are liable for their own injuries

​@@idaUnchainedcause that is longer at times

Good for you

Wonderful. That’s exactly the right outlook. Someone with some decency.

I’m an Autism mom and think it’s great if your child is a place on the spectrum where they can tolerate it but there are some of us whose children have Autism that cannot tolerate it. Every child on the spectrum is different as you know please be mindful of that.

@@lisahall3018 You have no sense of shame and such an entitled victimhood mentality. Id have way more respect for someone who had a genuine condition but didn't use that victimhood crutch to cheat others and get special treatment. Take some agency for yourself and grow up. Youre just cheating the line and playing victim

@@lisahall3018 Same thoughts here. I'm not sure she was insinuating that...? @glamyumable

I’m in a very similar situation and was only able to enjoy the parks because of DAS. It’s sad to think I may not ever be able to enjoy the parks again 😢

I deal with this same issue unfortunately and i feel so embarrassed to use a wheel chair, especially being so young. I hold out for DAS sometimes till the evening because I don’t want to be one of those people abusing the system. I hope they make exceptions for people like us 😢 otherwise I think theme parks is going to be a thing in the past for me.

Similar here. Thanks for speaking on this.

Disney can look at each disability and decide what is a reasonable accommodation, a reasonable accommodation can be anything which allows a person with a disability to be able to use the facilities, in this case it sounds like allowing a line skip or allowing you to wait in line in a wheelchair would both be reasonable accommodations, you do not have a legal right to get the reasonable accommodation of your choice, you just have a legal right to a reasonable accommodation of Disney's choice. That being said, many will argue that an accommodation that Disney chooses is not reasonable in their specific case, that is why it is always safer legally to give people the accommodation that they are asking for.

I can totally commiserate as I have the same condition as well as RA and Spinal Stenosis. Unfortunately sitting in a wheel chair and standing on spot makes things worse. I hope that they will offer something for those of us who have a disability that is not cognitive.

Is that to account for the additional time required to stand in the lightning lane once checked in?

From what I understand, that’s to account for the time they’ll spend in the LL line when they return to the ride. A lot of times the LL wait is more than 10 min so the DAS holder ends up waiting longer than a standby queue guest. Plus, a lot of times the posted wait time is longer than what actual queue is so that 10 min helps balance that out.

@@mrswhite808 No, it was because you used to have to go to kiosks to get the wait time signed on to a card. They took the 10 minutes off to account for the time it took to walk to the ride. I believe there are people who still use paper, so that is likely why it is still there.

As a DAS holder, I disagree. With a disability, that 10 minute window can turn into more when you are going a diferent route, taking longer to get in to or out of a ride vehicle, etc. I have mobility as awell as neurological issues and the DAS has made it possible fo rme to visit at all. While I don't alway sneed an ECV (depend son the day and flareups) I always end up renting one for my own psychological well being, too. The ECV helps provide a social buffer the the corads don't give you without one. IT's hard to explain. But, I while I look like I have mobility issues (which I do), I don't 'look' like I'm on the spectrum... until I do, and I come off as a lunatic. Just ask those poor cast members at the tiki room who stared at me in confusion when lost it after I was given 4 different instructions about where to park my ECV. I was fed up that they kep making me move and one of them ended up telling me I had to transfer and sit on the bench, smashe dup against strangers and they had to move my ECV out since another one was in there -- mind you that second one came in after I did and between me driving all the way down the ramp and around the back...where they told me to go! I felt so bad, but I'd had enough and I just screamed for them to stop talking at me and I drove off and away. I spent the next hour in a corner having a panic attack and recovering while my sister tried to keep people from getting too close. Anyone who knows me or looks at me wouldn't think I'm on the spectrum, but I am, and it got worse after a TBI when I had a bad car accident a few years ago, when I was almost killed by a drunk driver (hence the mobility issues). All that said, manueving around the parks in an ECV is NOT a time saver, on any level. it often takes much longer than the posted standby time for me. That part about these new rules that I don't like are that they are creating different classes of disabilities. DAS accomodations are free. Mobiliy accomodations are not. That's my issue. Even on days I may not 'need' the ECV, I end up renting one anyway for my sanity. I think that's pretty cruddy considering I'm also an INspire Key holder and I spend tons of money in the parks. My mobility disability isn't accomodated at all, frankly.

Better yet, Disney needs to limit the amount of people coming into the park. Reservations should remain in effect and they need to limit the number of people coming in.

Lol. You’re cheating the line like everyone else and don’t deserve special treatment.

But what about people who need it for reasons other than autism?

@@mrs.looneysgreeklatinlesso2282 your drs note 📝 will determine that one

@@calebhoward8940 Curious why you think that

@@user-lp4fl9hk1u I took the autism test and got a 149/200 so high-ish level, I dont feel a need to cheat others and cut in line. In the comments so far ive seen ADHD, anxiety, celiac as hypochondriac excuses to cut the line in front of others. Just because you have a gluten intolerance or some dusting of autism doesnt mean you can ruin other peoples enjoyment of the parks and get special line privileges. We all need to act like good citizens and not use our perceived petty victimhood status to rob others

This! My kiddo has kidney issues and is physically unable to hold it if we’re in line and need to find a restroom quick. We’ve gotten so many angry comments from people who think we are cutting the line when we come back. The comments one group made to us made my kiddo not even want to ride the ride anymore. We used DAS for the first time our last trip and it helped her so much. We were able to make sure she used the restroom multiple times before rides without having to exit the lines numerous times and upsetting those around us.

This is exactly why I use DAS as well. I feel like I probably won’t qualify anymore given the changes. It is a bummer but I am fortunate enough that I can swing Genie + to make my days more enjoyable. I just feel really bad for those guests who can’t. Disney is already so pricey.

There a huge amount of people with much worse problems than needing the bathroom. I've had kidney disease for 30 years and never thought to get DAS for that! My husband is diabetic as well and has been on that med. He would never ask for DAS.

@@kathymceltheres more complications with diabetes than just the bathroom i personally dont want a kid whos parents aint paying attention to bump me when im taking insulin or pass out cause of the heat affecting my blood sugar

Having to use the restroom on a 45 minute frequency is a stretch to characterize as a “disability”. Yes, you will likely lose your DAS privileges because you are able to stand in line and wait. And by watching fresh baked regularly, you would know to be at the parks early in order to maximize your time in lines. Surely you’ve seen the episode where David walked on 5, 6 popular attractions in a row? It can be done and I think you already know that. But instead, you have no qualms about making a family (who has never experienced the same attraction) wait a longer so that you can get on your priority entrance to your favorite ride again. I’m not trying to be rude but that is what you’re implying.

I agree if you are asking for the accommodations what's the problem. We supply whatever they need as we need the accommodations and my child's PCP knows it already.

The issue there is that there's no guarantees that people with harder to diagnose conditions are any less disabled than those with actual paperwork. I was in my mid-teens when I got my OCD diagnosis and my late 20s when I got my ADHD diagnosis and I'm still working to get my ASD diagnosis in my 40s. I'm lucky, in that the worst issues I have can be addressed with sunglasses, ear plugs and not going to the park during hotter months. But, other folks aren't so lucky,.

Yeah I’m not sure how they can enforce this practically. Now that my daughter is older it has become more obvious she is on the spectrum. But when she was younger it was not obvious at all.

I believe they will be using a third party when the changes begin.

So here's the problem with this: I have a genuine disability I was born with and have used a wheelchair and DAS and similar programs my entire life. Now I won't qualify. I don't use it to get an advantage. I use it to maximize my day and have the time and space I need to transfer from my chair to ride vehicles. This will downgrade my experience and I don't think I'll be renewing my magic key

@@ACE1062682I would still do the interview. You are unique. They’ve called out Autism but there are other disabilities where people are not confined to a wheelchair but standing for 75 min is out of the question.

@@ACE1062682 how will not having DAS prevent you from having the time and space you need to transfer to a ride vehicle? Seems like being in a wheelchair doesn't prevent you from waiting in line and I am sure no matter who you are having DAS would be beneficial to maximize a day at the parks, but the question is, do you need DAS to have an equal opportunity to use the facilities at the park? That is what you have to show if you want a reasonable accommodation under the ADA. Without DAS will you not be able to use the facilities at the park?

sounds like Disney is making a special program just for families like you, doesn't sound like a judgment, sounds like a nice thing to do for you and a reasonable accommodation as required by law, the ADA allows companies to ask for evidence before deciding what accommodation would be reasonable for each situation.

They’re extending the time for registration. It will be longer than 30 days. They do the reregistration in case the needs of the person has changed. I feel it’s understandable to have to reregister if you haven’t been there in a certain amount of time or if the party has changed. You can do it online before you go with a video chat and they let you sign up for your first two rides. The rides have to be in the same park. That might be a better way for some. They’re also putting the registration spot in some of the ticket booths so you can take care of it before entering the parks and then when you enter you can just go wherever you need to go. I feel like this is way better than guest services. Having cast members that are equipped to deal with will also be a good thing.

@@lifewithlulu4056the online registration process is terrible. Because their website couldn’t access my computer’s camera (camera works fine for everything else), it made me wait twice. Then they sent me to someone else to make 2 ride selections. I was on with them a total of 3 hours. Waiting in line at the park would definitely be easier

⁠@@tjtennisicmroll2kthe issue is are the people making those decisions truly qualified to do so why should an autistic person, or the parent of an autistic person have to justify themselves to someone who isn’t an expert on Autism. Autism is a spectrum and some on the spectrum are higher functioning than others or are managing their symptoms better than others who’s to say that high functioning autistic people won’t be lumped in with those who Disney is accusing of abusing the system

@@tjtennisicmroll2kin other words I hope the cast members being hired to deal with this are well trained on what autism is and not just randomly hired with little knowledge of it

Our family goes to Disney World every June for 17 years. We have waited in fastpass, fastpass+ and genie+ lines every years those options were available. The last 2 years we have used a DAS for our son in addition to our genie+ purchase. Our family has never experienced a genie+ line anywhere close to an hour long wait. Most are in the 10 to 20 minute range. There have been a handful of times the wait stretched to around the 30 minute range but those were generally due to the ride going down fairly recently or from an influx of DAS pass returns much past the initial return time, like right after a parade or right before closing.

This doesn't affect you then....

I also remember that, every group of kids had one person in a rented wheelchair and they would switch who sat in it, all. the trashy kids would do it, I am sure some of them feel bad about it now.

FRESHBAKED is DISNEYLAND The Goat.. that's is pretty good!!

You need a doctors note that provides what your physical limitations are which would prevent you from sitting in a queue for hours in order to get a reasonable accommodation to not have to wait in the line. If you are fine sitting in a wheelchair outside of the line, they are likely to say why can't you just sit in the wheelchair while in the line. If your doctor can show that, then disney likely has no choice but to let you skip the line.

@@tjtennisicmroll2k I get it, but I shouldn't have to justify my disability to anyone.

@@tjtennisicmroll2k The point is that with the old Fast Pass system, they did not HAVE to ask for any special accommodation. Now they are being forced to pay for a doctor, and get paperwork (which can be really difficult because Doctors are not trained in accommodating disabled people). Since many disabled people are poor, that is a huge financial burden just so Disney can gouge customers.

I'm curious, since you use a wheelchair, I don't understand why you would have trouble using the regular standby queue? Assuming the queue space is ADA-compliant, of course. And my understanding is that for queues that are not accessible, an alternative entrance is available and a DAS is not needed to access those.

@@miriamkushel4032 It's not the queue that is the problem. It's the fact that with Spina Bifida, there are some medical issues with the digestive system and other things that can present as a major problem in an hours-long wait. It's not a problem for an able-bodied person to just exit a line to use the bathroom or something. It becomes a lot more difficult for someone who is wheelchair-bound to not be able to easily access the restroom or something. That isn't the only problem we face. The thing with Spina Bifida is that no two people have the same experience. So, blanket statement types of changes don't work.

For sure. I have pretty much the same issues except I have never fainted. Come close to it. And because of the abuse that's been going on for years since they had the paper sign-ups it makes it hard to get sometimes and there's been times where they've told me no. And I went home covid I just didn't want to hurt myself not being able to stand.

Absolutely! Totally agree!

What is the no limit for LL?

Exactly you still have to wait when using DAS just not in a line

the limit - simple hypothetical version - you got a ride that you know can load 100 people in 10 mins. So you know your queue of 500 people will take 50 minutes. you got 500 people standing there, straightforward. But put in a fast pass system, offer 50 fast passes for every 10 mins. 50 people from standby and 50 people walking in with passes get on the ride every 10 minutes. You can tell your standby people how long they're waiting if you know half the places are going to passes. That's with a set limit, half the places are available to passes every 10 mins. If you take away that limit, and anyone who buys a pass can get on the ride ahead of the standby line, they might be waiting hours for a gap in the traffic to get on the ride! Lightning Lane is obviously a lot more complicated than that, it does have a limit, it can sell out, but it doesn't seem like it's anywhere near is balanced and regulated as the older systems were.

@@ItsameBS so it’s my belief they would limit how many guests could get a fastpass for a said hour when a limit was hit they go to the next hour and so on, so example when Toy Story Mania was brand new by 8 pm they were completely sold out of fast passes on the original fastpass system because throughout the day people got fast passes each hour, so if it a lot of people used it they wouldn’t tell you come back in an hour it could tell you come back 2 hrs later 3 hrs later and so on. I believe they used to have a limit of how many people could get a fastpass each hour. With lightning lane since people are paying for it there’s no limit and now both the standby and lighting lanes lines are well over an hour, Disney doesn’t care because people are paying for it.

That’s life!

Unfortunately it’s just not a few bad eggs.

It's to make sure nonqualifying guests are not clogging up the line for guests who actually need the service.

The problem is it's not just " a couple", it is entire groups abusing it on a daily basis and the system just cannot keep up anymore. The parks were not designed for this volume.

I agree with this. I would much rather submit my son’s paperwork and call it a day. Explaining autism and his symptoms becomes exhausting and it’s emotional and stressful for both myself and my son.

But why if their limit is 4? This is what I mentioned in an earlier comment. It’s nice to have someone with you in the park when you have a drop, especially if it’s a stubborn low-and the person traveling with you would most likely know at least some of the ins and outs of your co-morbidities (if you have any) or where your glucagon is and how to administer it.

She said that going forward, the cast member can hold my place in line if I need to finger prick, inject insulin or use the bathroom. I would only qualify for it if it was a minor child and no other adult. This was told to me during my DAS video chat.

@@lauriepacheco7217 thank you for the details, do you think their offered reasonable accommodation will allow you to have access to the park?

Aren’t you embarrassed? Diabetes so therefore you can cut in line? Shameful.

@calebhoward8940 with type 1, multiple injections per day and needle pokes to check for dangerous low and high blood sugar levels for over 50 years now going solo I am not embarrassed at all. Unless you know someone who has this type of diabetes and is flying across the country alone for a solo trip, then you should be embarrassed by your statement.

That is exactly what I have. And at times when I was denied DAS they told me you can just go get a wheelchair. I am there by myself. A wheelchair is not something that I could wheel myself around in. And they said oh I understand you should rent an ECV then. And this is pretty much why I am not going to renew my pass. The struggle it takes to get any help in this park is ridiculous.

No, they abused it before Genie + existed.

@@climateanxiety2825 Yeah, but not to this degree. It changed after Disney started charging for something they offered for free that worked just fine. If that’s not the case, then why didn’t Disney ever implement a measure like this before?

People still fake needing a wheelchair to cut the line. People are selfish. Always have been, always will be.

Trust me it was really bad before they started charging. They have changed the DAS system before because it was being abused. It’s why they went digital with it way before the fast pass system was.

The system has been abused for well over a decade, even when we had the Guest Assistance Card. I used to work Guest Relations there. Honestly, medical documentation needs to be provided or approved (like Universal is doing). Most people don’t need it.

Sorry to hear that, if you are sitting in a wheelchair, but in the normal line, it seems like you wouldn't get rude comments? Were you talking about getting rude comments when sitting in a wheelchair and going through the DAS entrance?

@@tjtennisicmroll2k no people are jerks you get them all over the place but especially just going with the flow of traffic or trying to get through an entrance to plaza inn with it parked up with strollers and people pushing their way in front of you as they see you struggling. Being in the regular line doesn't help this. I'm glad I did not renew my magic key because I can't go back to the park.