Who designed the watchmaker? Of course nobody wants to answer that because that exposes the special pleading fallacy and how bad and self refuting the argument is.
@@davidpaula2802 That is because in the back of their tiny minds nothing can happen without god, god is everything, god is even a cup or a jar key or a ghost. Which is a ridiculous and unfounded idea. Pure wishful thinking. Who is to say what can and what can't happen?
@@Aguijon1982 First cause need not a creator. And even if I don’t bring up the first cause, at least we still have a Creator regardless if that Creator has a Creator.