WILLOW: 'empathogen', Growth & Tour | Apple Music 

Willow is so criminally underrated and unappreciated. She makes phenomenal music and is also an outstanding performer. I’ve had the privilege of seeing her twice now and I cannot express how amazing she is live.

She’s not wrong that rock album is criminally underrated. I was shocked when I finally listened that I had never heard anything about it.

Her self AWARENESS from a YOUNG age is just beyond me. It's MIND BLOWING. She understands life and emotions SO DEEPLY even growing up privileged.

She’s not noticed in the way she should be because her music personality and soul are too authentic for this world. Things that are superficial and obnoxious get more clout than anything these days. It’s sad where the world has gone. Keep going willow! You’re the person we need more of in the world and your talent and music are phenomenal!!!🫶🏵️

She is so beyond her years, I love all of her music so much

WILLOW one thing about it. Copingmechanism was hands down the best rock album that came out in 2022 if anything one of the best albums of 2022

“I really did make it hard for myself. I keep making it harder, weirdly enough. I can’t help it. I feel like if I’m not doing that, then it’s like, where am I going? Am I working towards the artist I really want to be? Am I working towards the human I really want to be? All of the greats tried to challenge themselves and put themselves in situations that forced them to become who they are.” - Willow Smith

SUMMARY: Zane: "Right??" Willow: "100%!!" ❤

Really hope she's going to take that npr-band on tour!

I honestly REALLY adored the singles off the empathogen rollout which for me creates even more anticipation for tomorrow !!! 😭😭 It’s honestly crazy how she went from writing “whip my hair” to something chaotic & beautiful like “symptom of life” & “b i g f e e l i n g s” … like the growth is truly amazing

7 studio albums at 23 years old is absolutely insane. Will never be anyone like her ever again. Beyond her years is an understatement.

i think many people sleep on her bc of her "lastname". people think that since she comes from famous circle she is just trying to be famous but in reality she is really passionate about music since she was 9 and she keeps doing it after all.

Hearing Willow mention Nai Palm makes so much sense... I could feel the inspiration of Hiatus Kaiyote all through Empathogen.

This is the most grown and beautiful I have ever seen Willow. Absolutely, loving the earthy tones.

COPING MECHANISM is INCREDIBLE. It definitely didn't get the recognition it deserves !!

Zane, I really needed to hear "can't think of anything better than the fact that my job is to practice and get better. My job is to get better at what I love". Thank you man. REALLY needed to hear that 🙏🙏

Willow wanting to be validated by Nai Palm is SO relatable. We all want Nai Palm's recognition girl😅. I loved that, that was real💯🙏

WOW!! What a FANTASTIC interview. The more I watch Willow, listen to her music, hear her speak and share her interpretation of life, the more I absolutely love her. She pays her mom the highest compliment and says, “Musically, there’s nobody like her.” When in fact there is absolutely nobody like Willow either, she truly is one of a kind, 100% Can’t wait to see what her future has in store! ❤🎤🎸🎵

B I G F E E L I N G S is SOO GOOD

Coping Mechanism definitely got me through last year. I love her ethereal hippie punk funk. They are so beautiful always love their message. They are busting out creative awesomeness so much so fast.

her rock album is a complete masterpiece!

This interview was so good. Bouncing off each other. Going back to certain points of the conversation. Having the depth/capacity to understand each other despite the generational gap. Loving this album. loved the NPR Tiny desk. I have that on loop. If theres a version of you doing the whole album/setlist live, that would be on loop too. So many bombs dropped, one after the other. Dropped silently and audibly

I would love for Willow and Raphael Saadig to do something together if they haven't already. Willow is so talented.

Take a shot everytime Willow says: "One hundred percent" 👀

Feel like if she was a yt nepo baby people would not be hating or ignoring so much. She is very very talented and honest about the love she has for the music... idk

I have recently heard Willow's music here on YT & have been blown away!! I didn't know what a gorgeous voice she has. I kept getting Kate Bush vibes whilst listening. And what has been so exciting is that each new song I have heard has been just as different & exciting as the one before it... She is a beautiful musician, artist & performer!

I LOVE how much LOVE is being shown to her and everyone is really giving her her flowers which are more than well deserved.

He is enjoying this so much, I've hardly ever seen such combustive movement prior to this interview! Amazing work with knowing when to listen and drive.

Willow is not only beautiful but she is a f$cking genius musically. She is well beyond her years intellectually.

this is one of THE best albums I have ever listened to. so impressed and grateful.

I hate unsolicited advice: receiving ANDgiving it, so I always try to be very mindful of it, and I really loved how Zane and Willow put it here with the term "emotional mugger". Imma use that!💯

So grateful willow is in our music industry 😁🙏

Willow was always on my radar, but this album…definitely put her in my top 5. This album is my second favorite very close to cowboy Carter.

100% -Willow Smith 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯

Willow talks like her Dad (hand gestures and all) but sounds like her Mom (esp. the young Jada)! :) ❤❤😊😊

She’s so pretty

Willow is such an incredible Artist with a rich body of work. So happy she's thriving and finding peace in her Artistry.

I actually don't find it surprising AT ALL that she's overlooked as a serious musician. First of all she's a black woman so that's pretty self explanatory. But she's labeled as a "nepo baby" just because her parents are successful so any kind od success she has is credited to having resources. So black people should either struggle or be accused of not struggling enough cause their parents provided for them? Her making it as a musician is such a full circle moment considering her mother probably had the same talent but was doing it at a wrong time politically and socially. Yes, growing up with privilege skews your way of thinking, but she's never pretended that she struggled with things she didn't struggle with, like poverty or "being too rich", she just sings about her experiences as a human. And she is living proof that women of color need to work ten times harder to be taken seriously. She could have been a pop star, she chose to make real music, and ironically, she's more belitted for it than she would have been had she chosen the pop route. But I think people are starting to catch up and it makes me so happy. Good music is hard to be deaf to.

COPING MECHANISM is an excellent album, I really thought it was gonna go bigger!

I discovered coping mechanism late and was so shocked on why I hadn't heard about it, it is a MASTERPIECE so much emotion and angst in that album that I feel not everybody can express

omg i loved this interview. love to get to know and understand an artist a little better

That why most people show up to shows is for the presence of the performing artist is a lesson it took me 25-30 years to (mostly) fully realise. When embraced, it’s a clarifying and liberating truth! Deeply appreciated this interview 🙏🏽

Her rock album was a piece of art

Her music is blowing everything out the water.

she's talking about validation 😭Girl I am pressing the validation button here a million times ✅What you created is INSANELY good

So so grateful for Willow and her artistry

Willow's coming more into her own and it's beautiful to see ❤

Willow's last two albums are masterpieces. Both are in my top 10 albums of all time.

I had previously dismissed her as a nepo baby. But this record is absolutely incredible and her talent cannot be denied.

she is way ahead of her time

Love listening to her talk just as much as I love listening to her sing ❤

one minute fourty seconds in and I can't get enough of your voice!!! Willow thank you so much for welcoming us into a small portion of your mind, life and creative release! So much pleasure, you are ever revolving! okay, I'm pressing play Zane.

Thank you, Apple, for this interview.

She's a Scorpio queen, so eloquent and so smart! Love you, Willow!

Willow is on another level I’m just glad to experience and learn from her she truly is raising a generation

this just kept getting better, I started the video not sure if I would go all the way then had a LOT of insights and existencial vibes from it (and good laughs) when it ended I was kinda shocked like "ALREADY?" and it just hit me this is almost 1h long wow

she's so talented

her self awareness is next level

This is duality and it's not easy.

I listen to Coping Mechanism almost everyday. It’s such an amazingly vulnerable album, super grateful for it ❤

She is an incredible artist. She is very talented.❤ Thank God she has the contacts and platform and family that helps her to be known. Because we really need a Willow in music right now.

“Pain for fun”, “the fear is not real”. Insane af

First off y'all did NOT have to have a key moment like that!😆! But I am so happy as a person that you went the direction that you felt in your heart, and that your yay's were yay's and ney's were SOLID!!! Good to see you💚🧡💛

Such a great artist. I really admire how she is pushing herself to get better

I’ve seen a lot of interviews, this hands down the very best thus far.

Truly intelligent & vulnerably, open, mature discussion here. So rad.

She's put in the work & is beyond (independently) talented

21:36 - 21:47 I love you Willow and you are wise but we all have learning to do. Love and truth must be aligned. I can possibly understand you calling it 'love' to maintain the love frequency in your reality, but don't ignore the truth that also exists in your reality. Roc nation probably let it slide cus hey, your dad is a star. Let's not overlook that and call it love. Everything is love when we move with love, but that is called leverage. Ain't nothing wrong with being grateful about it

as a young musician, this interview has really made me see things in a different light. thank you Zane and Willow for this!! and thank you apple :)

Three minutes in, and Willow’s true self is already shining through. I often share this wisdom with my clients when doing reiki, energy work.The moment you acknowledge those attachments that no longer benefit you is the moment your life truly begins to blossom. You're there Willow, remember to pause, observe and then act.

I love you, Willow 💜 I'm so excited to get into your album

What a great conversation. Zane is a fantastic interviewer and Willow is amazing and so authentic

So proud of her !

I am deeply in love and 100% crying! Best podcast I could ever listen.❤‍🔥

I resonate with Willow on such a spiritual level.. thanks for this interview.

This album closed a portal. Im so relieved

Love this interview!

Somehow I heard the singles from coping mechanism in 2022 but missed the album release until a few weeks ago and omg, it so rare when I can say I love every song on the album

I can’t wait to hear it tomorrow! ❤

We are being treated!! Love

I love how right off the bat they speak about how challenging her evolution in music keeps becoming. Willows music is so different than anything I hear generally and it’s not just for the sake of being different. The intention is so rich and potent in alllllll of her music

I love you willow keep doing what you do ❤ keep pushing the boundaries… and Coping Mechanisms hands down is a classic album 💿

And we return like every several years, to sprinkle down a little bit of heaven for your ears.

Am I the only one that think willow is very beautiful??? ❤😢 she’s very smart. Talented and down to earth.

Didnt even watch yet clicked on the video snd hit like based on this is my favorite interviewer and we are sure to get intelligent, interesting questions and whoever he is talking to gets respected and plenty of time to both answer and be a real part of the interview and direction. Second reason is my growing like, admiration and respect for Willow. She is very talented, entertaining and it's exciting watching her grow and waiting for what she does next. I actually do care about the direction her career and she grows in.

I'm really jealous of her. I know it's not good but simply the fact of having the support of your family and the entire budget to pay for classes. My dream is to be an artist but I have never had classes of anything, it's very stressful to feel like I'm behind in my artistic growth. Willow is one of my favorite artists and I wish I was like her.

I love her so much ❤❤❤ I hope she has a long healthy life filled with Joy ❤ I been watching her daddy since i was little ❤

Willow thank you for this interview as a creative I truly needed to hear every word🥺❤️

I love every second of this

As a creator myself I needed to hear this today.

Hopefully she'll visit UK, would love to see her live

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I love zane. I love willow. I loved this interview

Improvisation is the Mother of Skill

Ugh Just love her, Willow your the best!

This was 100% inspirational ✨🖤✨

*The Joy is in the Journey!*

I suppose, feeling inadequate is just another symptom of life 🤷‍♂️

Beautiful conversation big props to Zane Lowe for being so insightful and bringing out the best in her!

Sending love ❤️