Where do rank Wilt Chamberlain in your Top 10 All-Time? NOTE: Didn’t have time to create a playoff reaction video, so I’ll drop my thoughts here in case you’re curious… Nuggets Vs Lakers 1, The Lakers OFFICIALLY live and die with AD. 2, Why tf was LeBron so reluctant to establish himself in the 4th?! Took his first 4th quarter shot with 1 minute left! Gave me Game 7 Kobe vibes in the 2006 Playoffs against Phoenix. 3, For the love of all that is good, STOP SHOOTING quick 3s, Russell! 4, Jokic keeps giving AD space at the 3 point line for good reason… he bricks them all. He shot 27% from the 3 this season… stop making the Joker’s job easy by shooting them. AD is one of the best post up 4s of All-Time, so just keep working from there. 5, WHERE TF WAS THIS VERSION OF KCP IN LA?!?!?! 🤬 6, Lakers won the free throw battle 19-6, and Denver didn’t shoot a SINGLE free throw in the 2nd half, despite their being plenty of contact…. Seems fishy. 7, Jamal Murray doesn’t get enough love 8, The Lakers gave their best shot in the first half, and still lost. I hate to say it, but this series goes 5 games at the most. Timberwolves Vs Suns 1, Ant is a baaaad man. 2, Minnesota’s Team defense is insane. Rudy’s value can clearly be seen on D, but I think a lot of people are starting to realize that many other guys deserve some of that credit. 3, KD got absolutely embarrassed by a star player much younger than him. I expect Durant to respond with a HUGE performance in Game 2. 4, No one needs this series more than KD. Losing on Super Teams is always bad, but if this squad gets bounced in the 1st Round, I’ll be fully convinced that Durant is never escaping Steph Curry’s shadow. Knicks Vs 76ers 1, Prayers up for Joel Embiid. Even with his likely return in the series, I have a hard time seeing him playing with the same aggressiveness and explosiveness after that scare… It’s gotta be getting in his head at this point, similarly to Derrick Rose after the ACL tear in 2012. 2, As a general basketball fan, I can’t tell you how happy it makes me to see Madison Square Garden electric again with playoff Basketball. The NBA is a better product when the Knicks are good. 3, Philly let this game slip away. You can’t expect to be a championship team when you’re losing games where the opposing team shoots 39% from the field. Been trusting the process for all these years, yet it seems like the same old story. 4, Maxey has an opportunity to rise to superstardom. With question marks around Embiid, he needs to look to be aggressive and shoulder EVEN more of the load offensively. 5, Brunson should be happy with the victory, but he’s trying to do much. Nerves seem to be effecting his shot. He needs to settle down and let the game come to him. Cavs Vs Magic 1, Having the first 2 minutes of the broadcast have no commentary was AMAZING. Man, I love Playoff atmosphere and this beautiful game! 2, Orlando is a good quality team in the WRONG era. They’re extremely lacking on shooters, and that weakness was exploited in this game. Addressing that should be priority number 1 in this upcoming offseason. 3, It feels like Donovan Mitchell has been flying under the radar since his 70 point game. This is his opportunity to put himself back on the map and start being treated like the star that he is. 4, This series should be dominated by Cleveland. They had 18 Turnovers, bench was 4/19, and the team shot 27% from 3… yet they won by 14. This series is going 5 games at the most, probably a sweep though.
If Wilt had taken Red Auerbach's advice and attended a college in Massachusetts, he would have been a territorial pick for the Boston Celtics. If he had, would we even be having this conversation?
Yeah it seems fishy that nuggets got zero free-throws in second half. Over past 2 seasons, Lakers have shot 1104 more free-throws than their opponents. Knicks are second on that list with only 470 more free-throws than opponents. And people have the nerve to say refs cheat the Lakers out of games. Lmao.
I personally have Michael Jordan as my GOAT but I can never fault people for having Wilt at #1, the man was truly other-worldly. We will never see another player average 50pts per game, I'm calling that now.
@@Recovery305That's the most insane thing about it all. The '60s outside of today easily had some of the highest scoring games in history And he never missed a single second of basketball outside of one or two occurrences which is genuinely absurd. Nobody is surpassing that.
This man has his own section in the book of records. However, his most impressive to me, which will NEVER be broken, averaging 48.5 mpg during the 1961-62 season. A season when he played all 80 scheduled games of the season. Incredibly unbelievable. And he was productive, it was the season he averaged 50+pts & 25+ rebounds.
Wilt Chamberlain was one of the most dominant players to ever play basketball, and the greatest record breaker in NBA history. I don’t think Wilt gets enough credit on how much he popularized basketball. He was the NBA’s first mega star. The NBA certainly had stars but Wilt was the one who helped pioneered what the NBA is today. Not to mention he paved the way for other black athletes to get into the NBA in an era where it was hard for black athletes to break out. Wilt was a legend.
You guys understand that Wilt and Russel and West and Baylor and Oscar Robertson paved the way for Kareem, Magic, Bird, Jordan and even LeBron. These guys from the 60s, 70s, and even the 80s and 90s never get the respect or credit they deserve!
No one was robbed more of career persoective than Wilt Chamberlain due to a lack of awards and stats. Man likely had a season where he lead the nba in 4/5 stats on top of fg%...
@@UnconventionalReasoning I laughed that they chose Hakeem over Russell for the dpoty namesake. But I get it. Having fmvp and dpoty wouldve ruined the Jordan Brand argument
The NBA actually got the awards correct. Jordan the MVP Russell FMVP Hakeem deserves DPOY Magic/Bird Conference MVP seem repetitive. Mines well have Playoff MVP but I get it. Big O/Cousy got one for the conference championship. Wilt ROTY is fitting even though one can make the case that the NBA should of made a OFFENSIVE POTY for Wilt.
Wilt is amazing. I had heard of some of these games before but was still amazed at the stats. He is absolutely one of the greatest of all time and one can definitely make a GOAT case for Wilt. Awesome video, Jonny! Have a nice Sunday 😊.
People say that Kareem’s sky hook was unblockable from primary defenders, but Wilt blocked one (at this was at the tail end of his career at that point). Also, there were several rule, some since revoked (no dunking in college is one of those) and some still exist (can’t throw over the backboard). The can’t throw over the backboard rule case because the 76s were working on an inbound play in the offseason, and the NBA got wind of it and preemptively banned it before they could do it in a game.
Wilt is the most mytichal player in basketball period. Imo. Even more so than jordan. His accomplishments are so monumental and numerous he is somehow dismissed and overlooked. He's, in my opinion, the greatest athlete to ever play basketball; and the greatest two-way player ever. My brother says I am always "Wilt worshipping" when I extol his records and gawk at his ability. He's the most interesting ball player ever, imo.
You did not misrepresent history, I was around when he played, I saw the old and the new, none like Wilt, not even close and not even Mike. I believe one of the reasons that he doesn't get the accolades as he should have is because of the press. Many in the press did not like him, especially during that period when black men were supposed to be quiet and Wilt ilt was not. The press created a negative narrative around Wilt, and you see some of that narrative still being spewed to this day, because when the writers and historians look back, they often read the bad narratives. Don't get me wrong, there was some that gave him his props, but during that time period, Wilt was the show, and history shows that when he did have a good cast of characters around him, he did win. The first half of his career when people accused him of scoring too much, those people did not realize that he was asked to score, and he did it well. The second half of his career, he was asked to cut back on scoring and focus on defense and rebounding, and he did that well. Imagine if he focused on scoring his entire career, LeBron James will still be chasing the record.
He was an alien! This is not human! The greatest! He is not the best basketball player, he is the greatest athlete of all times, but it's not fair against all others, because he is NOT human!
I feel bad wilt played so long ago I feel as though he would’ve been so much better given today’s training and understanding of the game/ human anatomy
Yes, though he did alright for himself in the 1960s. The thing that I wish he, and others, would have been spared is the racism they faced. Players were denied hotel rooms or seats at restaurants when on the road.
@@UnconventionalReasoning yup today’s game and even a lil bit of the social climate was built on the backs of the legends of yesterday shout of them for sure
@@goat369 When I watch NBA reaction videos by young Black men, and they are dismissive of the players from the 1960s, I mention that Russell, Baylor, Chamberlain, Robertson, and Bellamy were all drafted before MLK's "I Have a Dream" speech.
He was playing in a an era where modern basketball was being created plus in a very rough era of basketball play. You’ve heard of “hack a shaq” well in Wilts era Wilt literally was being attacked during games but he persevered without much complaints as he was so strong and I’m sure he handed some punishments back. There is was an incident that Rudy Larusso elbowed Wilt so hard that his top front teeth were pushed into his skull! He played the next game! Imagine any of today’s NBA pansies enduring such an injury and playing the very next game. Wilt should have his own separate page in NBA history and any records broken by today’s players should have an ascorist stated that the record was was broken in an easier way softer and lacks rules! Yes I’ll say it again, he played in an era when men played like men with pride and dedication! Also, I must add I’m seeing MJ in a whole new light, MJ like Wilt was literally attacked in every game, he played without complaint and found a way to score.
In a conversation with John Salley, Phil Jackson compares Wilt and Shaq, probably the two most dominant players in NBA history. He said Wilt took you up with him when he jumped. 😀
It wasn't Rudy Larusso.I believe it was Clyde Lovellett. That was Red Auerbach tho. He always had a thug on the bench to beat you up if he couldn't stop you.
Wilt in my book is #1, and i was around when he played, so I saw the old and the new, and there is not a single basketball player in the NBA like Wilt; he would have dominated in any era. Many people don't realize regarding his scoring was only emphasized for about half of his career; The latter half he focused on rebounding and defense;
What a slacker!! Imagine only scoring 58 points after scoring more than 60 points the previous four games. I guess he was too tired after scoring 100 points the previous game. I have always said that if Wilt had the drive and determination to win that MJ had, the gap between him, and number two, in the G.O.A.T. conversation, would've been insurmountable.
Listening to Russell, Wilt did have the drive and determination to win. He lost to the Celtics seven times, they were generally a better team, with their own center with the drive and determination to win.
@@UnconventionalReasoning To say that Bill Russell's Celtics were "generally a better team" is one of the biggest understatements I've ever heard. Those Russell Celtics had five or six Hall-of-Famers (not including Russell). Wilt himself said he "didn't want to hurt opposing players" because of his strength. Now, tell me, do you think MJ cared about hurting anybody else? In fact he wanted to humiliate his opponents. MJ wanted to win and, everybody better get out of his way. Sorry, Wilt didn't have that in him.
@@Fernando-vg4ym The 1968 Sixers might have been the better team, and the 1969 Lakers with West and Baylor were almost certainly the better team, with a disastrous coach. I do not consider MJ's need to hurt other players, including his teammates, as a positive. Wilt approach of avoiding "bully-ball" like Shaq was also partly due to the rules, and probably also due to the racial context of his era.
@@UnconventionalReasoning Look, in 15 years of playing professional basketball, MJ never hurt anybody. Nor did he ever intentionally try to hurt anybody. One of the reasons I hold MJ over Wilt (who happens to be my second favorite basketball player of all time) is that Wilt underperformed in the playoffs. His playoff scoring dropped dramatically when it mattered the most. But, physically, NOBODY comes close to Wilt. He was, and still is, considered the strongest to ever play the game. Combine that with his jumping ability and speed and, well, he was untouchable.
@@Fernando-vg4ym Wilt could hurt players in a way MJ couldn't, simply because he weighed 50% more. MJ did punch teammates at practice, intentionally. It is necessary to consider WIlt's playoff scoring in context, especially with his role on his different teams. Wilt had three playoff series with over 30 rebounds per game, all against Russell when he was with the Sixers. In the 1967 series against Boston, his numbers were 21.6, 32.0, 10.0. This is what his coach asked him to do, and he delivered.
I think bill would of had some ridiculous nights that don’t get talked about because the blks and steals didn’t get counted. But if they did, bill probably would’ve had a ridiculous amount of triple and quadruple doubles as well.
Yes, I think Russell and Wilt are first and second for both rebounds and blocks. I also dislike when people say that Moses Malone was the best offensive rebounder, by a wide margin. I think both Russell and Wilt would have been closer to him than to second place.
@@UnconventionalReasoning there is also a pretty strong argument for Rodman as well based on % of available rebounds. You do need to account for era, some appears have more rebounds to grab than others.
@@aaronhardin6439 I mean wilt was playing in an era with unbelievable pace...it was hard for a 7fter to run back and forth up and down the court to position him self to get rebounds...I think if wilt was playing in a slower paced era his % would be much...MUCH higher.
100% The only "What if?" I try with Wilt is, "What if Phil Jackson had been his coach for 7-8 seasons", to counter Russell having Auerbach for a decade.
Red tried to talk Wilt into going to Harvard so he would be available to the Celtics as territory pick. Imagine that. The Celts of the 60s with Wilt at the 5
@@youngzeus87 When a friend and I put together a starting 5/6 for each decade, the 60s had 1: West 1-2: Robertson 2-3: Havlicek 3-4: Baylor 4-5: Russell 5: Wilt A force to be reckoned with!
I have Wilt as my number 1 I know for a lot of people his lack of more rings lower him but rings aren’t everything his achievements are insane the stuff of legends !
He has the same amount of rings as Hakeem. But there are still a lot of people who consider Hakeem as the GOAT center. Hakeem may have won back-to-back and even led the lowest seeded championship team to victory but Wilt still has a case when he led the only team that eliminated Bill's superteam Celtics in the postseason when the latter were at their peak. Wilt won his second ring against prime Kareem when Wilt was past his prime dealing with injuries. Hakeem was also past his prime when he won his championships but he was still pretty close to his peak form while Wilt in his second championship run was suffering from knee injuries and then retired a few seasons later.
IMHO he is the best, only reason he gets shrugged off is his stats are so ridiculous and it happened a long time ago. He literally passed into legendary status 😆
Wilt is punished for how good his stats were. He's the only player in any major sports history I've seen treated like this. Anybody else doing a 10th of what he did would have monuments built in their name
What's even more impressive to me is while he is leading the league in scoring he is also leading in rebounding, FG percentage...if they kept blocks pretty sure he would have lead that as well
As an old-timer who was around when he played, I respectfully beg to differ. Look at the centers that he played against, most are in the Hall of Fame. And keep in mind they had to change the game because of him, to make it a little more difficult, whereas the Jordan rules made the game easier for Mike.
Sorry I worded my post very poorly. I meant that Wilt was just that dominant even with so many games played against Bill Russell as well as other good defensive centers. The way I worded it sounded like I was downplaying the quality of his competition. I posted on another one of Jonny's videos awhile back that if Wilt played today we wouldn't even be talking about any other players, it's a shame there isn't a ton of footage of his early days because nowadays he's almost like a mythical folk tale 😅
saw someone complain recently that we should have stats as before and after wilt instead of the merge bc now a days youll see someone put up an insane statline and it will have been only them, jordan once, lebron once, mayb russ once or some other players just once or twice and then wilt 13 times
Before his injury, there was a stat like that for Embiid, it might have been consecutive 30-pt games. Post-merger, Embiid has the longest streak. But Wilt had three or four longer streaks.
Did I see a pump fake hook shot without leaving the floor and pivot to his finger roll? Lbj showed kd something similar lol Wilt was 60 years ahead of time
I don't rank, instead I tier players - and Wilt is in my GOAT tier, alongside Russell, Kareem, Bird, Magic, Jordan and Duncan. I see no reason to rank them against each other, as players in a team sport, but 1v1, the Big Dipper would dominate every NBA player ever - and that includes Jordan.
Wilt is the true 🐐. MJ and Lebron can't touch Wilt's records. Remember that nobody ever averaged 30 points and at least 20 rebounds in a season, except Wilt. Wilt averaged 30 and over 20 for his CAREER. If Wilt had played on better teams, he would have won more titles. 💯
I always found one of the most interesting things about Wilt Chamberlain is that he, as one of the most dominant scorers to ever play the game, underperformed in the playoffs stat wise compared to the regular season where most of the greatest players elevate their game. Wilt averaged 7.6 points less per game for a career average of 22.5 ppg in the playoffs vs 30.1 for the regular season despite averaging more playing time than the regular season. 47.2 mpg vs 45.8 mpg. Shaq for comparison averaged more points in the playoffs in his career with a 24.3 average vs Wilt’s 22.5 despite playing about 10 less minutes per game. 47.2 mpg Vs 37.5 mpg I wonder how many more championships Wilt would’ve won if he averaged one to two more points in the playoffs than the regular season. That would almost be 10 more points per game that he would have averaged in the playoffs than what he did in his career in the playoffs.
It is important to consider the two halves of Wilt's career, through the 1966 playoffs and after that. His points/gm dropped below 25 for each of the six full seasons in the second portion, because his role on the 76ers and Lakers teams was different than what it had been on the Warriors. 104 of his 160 playoff games occurred in the second portion.
@UnconventionalReasoning people tend to forget Chamberlain changed his game three times in his career...he was different player with warriors, sixers and lakers...in 72 he played the bill Russell role In 67 jokic role and in 62 nobody including Jordan, Kareem nor lebron was as dominant as the big dipper
Come on friend do you know basketball at all?Wilt was the fourth scoring option with the Lakers.Of course his playoff average is going to drop. His coaches somehow got the bright idea that having someone who shoots 50- 60 percent from the field take less shots so guys who shoot 45 percent from the field could take more shots was the formula for winning. Wilt is lucky he won any championships with that kind of coaching.
Speaking of three pointers, i think the sideline & corner three should be eliminated & the three point arc needs to be backed up by 1' & make that a 4 point shot. If they want to keep a three point shot, they can shade the arc & the shaded area can be worth three & only a small part of the sideline can be worth three. Post ups, back to the basket moves & big men working on the blocks will return & the court will still be wide open & not clogged like in the 80s, 90s & 2000s
@@QankoIvanovI think winning is the most important part in basketball. As good as wilt was statistically, he only had 2 rings. Meanwhile, Jordan and Russel always led their teams to the finals and kept winning over and over. Lakers wilt was a much more complete version that focused more on helping his team rather than getting goated stats. If only he played like that since his rookie season. I can easily see him winning at least 4 chips instead of 2
@@OwO-vy2mg Why is winning the most important part of basketball? As a sport, competition and teamwork are huge. As a business, making money is critical.
His Airness is the G.O.A.T. FOREVER... But your content is simply AWESOME!!! I knew only 30 % of these "the Stilt" accomplishments... Thanks a lot MR. PROFESSOR Arnett!👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼💪🏼🏀
its impressive and i dont ignore his olympian level of physical abilities, but we are talking about 50s and 60s nba, with 8 12 teams, most were not even pross, before aba nba merge... we seen that all stats before merge werent replicated after that even by same players, many rules changed, those records cant be put to todays numbers and compared... same goes for all sports from football to basketball, in past diferent rules and diferent player gaps between greats and average players. nba really should count records after nba aba merge to make it realistic
The ABA didn't exist until 1967, so... If you want to take the "split" era differently from others, I think that is fair. It is very difficult to compare records from the leagues, etc. Wilt's greatest years were before the split occurred, against the best talent the world had to offer. I look at eras in their own context as well (offensive fouls were called mercilessly in his era, for example), but disregarding his achievements against the best players in the world because he was born too early is a bit unfair. The players he was playing against were, in fact, "pros". The only reason some had other jobs is because they didn't get astronomical paychecks for playing sports in the old days. It was the same for every league. Also, bear in mind that these performances occurred when Wilt wasn't allowed to eat in the same restaurants or stay in the same hotels as his coaches or white teammates. The mental fortitude of the old-school segregation-era athletes was amazing.
@@_drawkward_ so even with all your comment, my point is still relevant, you agree and rules were way diferent, and nba had tons of amateur players, that wilt was one of tallest players in nba back then. i dont try to make him look worse, but 50s 60s records should be compared to according era and rules times, 70s 80s 90s had major rule changes that changed game crazy big. we seen harden abuse rules and scoring 50 many times, one rule change and he is mediocre at best in league, same was for wilt, he was still decent in lakers early 70s, but because of way higher amount of good players and diferent rules he could not camp under basket and get 70 pts 40 rebound anymore, not to mention tactics changes etc. Dont forget that wilt was from Harlem Globetrotters, they were known from tricksters, theatrics and abusing rules, he knew all the tricks in book, so for other guy who defended him and was at best 6.6, 6.7with average athleticism, was mision impossible. its like putting prime shaq or hakeem in amateur league somewhere else in world, we seen how dwight howard old version of him scoring 40 50 and getting similar amount of rebounds in asian leagues, that are way more skilled than 50s 60s players
@@NostalgicMem0riesif you think the other players were that short you should go look at some rosters. It is just not true. Pretty much every team had 7 footers and the average height of nba players is literally one inch higher now than in 1960. You make some relevant points, but some of your information is way off. Most of Wilt’s points came from fadeaway jumpers and hook shots. He was not allowed to play like Shaq; he was much more of a finesse player.
Wilt has DOZENS of games that would be the peak career night of any other player ever, Jordan & Kareem included. I hope Wilt gets reincarnated soon in this ridiculous media age so the whole GOAT debate would never be talked about again.
Individually, in terms of talent and performance, he's the GOAT. He didn't have the same drive and mentality as people like Russell, MJ, Kobe, or it would have been game over.
Honestly we compare many players of today with the greatest of yesteryear. Like Wiggins being the next Jordan or Simmons as the next Magic. They definitely didn't live up to the hype. But I'm making the hot take that Wemby will be the next closest thing to a Wilt Chamberlain we'll ever get to see.
@@c99kfm I was looking at a statline by Wilt. When he got a quintuple double. It looked like something I can see Wemby doing. Maybe not the 26 rebounds or the 53 points. But I can see Wemby pulling this off once if not twice in his career if his rookie year is any indication of what we can expect. I agree he's similar to Kareem but we're gonna see some crazy statlines from this kid. We already have. I'm excited to see what he can do in his prime.
He better get in the weight room.He's got a long way to go to be Wilt.Wilts rookie season was better than any season that anyone has had since except Wilt.37 points 27 rebounds.Wemby is never doing that.Keep drinking the kool-ade
If someone calls Wilt the GOAT, I'm okay with that. I still pick MJ, but Wilt's a good reason why cross-era comparisons are tough. No steals or blocks recorded in the 50s and 60s, plus no 3P?? Way more records he could have. That said, rebounds were insanely inflated back then/the 60s. Fewer teams.
I truly dont believe that in team sports there is a true GOAT. But Wilt is my second favorite player of all time only behind Jokic. Wilt's athleticism is ungodly and what he can do on both ends of the court has him firmly ranked for me as the greatest Center of All Time. If he played in today's NBA he would be destroying the league. Imagine Giannis, more athletic and with an actual all around game. It wouldn't be fair.
Here is another one: 68 times people have scored 60 or more points, most once, some more than once, Michael Jordan and James Harden had 4, Damian Lillard had 5 and Kobe Bryant had 6 games of 60 or more. Kobe was the closest player to Wilt in the number of times to have 60 or more......Wilt ha 32!!🤨He was, in my opinion the greatest player of all time, by far.
Players today cant even give us 40 minutes night in night out for a season, or even 50 points every night despite the so called "better offense" and "weaker defense" and even "technological advancements in health" of today. The audacity of people to call this the era of plumbers is rediculous
Yes, that game was real. Also, the whole Wemby became the second player to have a 5x5 game his year. That is only because they didn’t have blocks and steals as official stats when Wilt played, Wilt had several (and I believe Russel also had a few).
This guy is trying to create a narrative that wilt chamberlain wasn't a team player and that he only cares about scoring but if you do enough research you will find out that it was his coach that wanted wilt to score that many points
OK.... Several stats. Wilt...averaged 40ppg over 6 seasons... no one close. averaged 30/23 over 13+ seasons....no one else did that for even 1 season.... Averaged 70ppg over 6 games... put up 62 points on Russell. His blocks per game is probable about 10+ per game for his career... Only Russell close to that. Jabbar's fgp dropped almost 10 points when playing Wilt.... case closed!
Every decade has it's dominant player, and that player puts up some absurd statistic or W-L total. The only person that can decide who the GOAT is, is the last human alive. If they even care to think about it.
High key, if there is one game that I would say is an overrated game of Wilt's it would be the 55 rebound game, he shot...absolutely awful from the field, which while I get that he was primarily guarded by Bill Russell shooting 15 of 42(35.7% from the field for the math wizards out there) from the field in any era and at any position is completely inexcusable, Bill Russell only hit 7 less shots than Wilt and on 27 less shot attempts...while being guarded by Wilt Chamberlain mind you
He would 100% as a shot blocker rudy gobert type of player, but even if he didnt, did he have all the stuff college players have now? Exactly, he was hoping in fucking converse😭
@@TiredOfthisstuff Yes, even without any time in high school or AAU today, drop him in this year in June, give him six months to prepare for the college season, and he'll be the player of the year. While he would be a great shot blocker, how do we ignore that he could shoot, his midrange shot was as good as anybody? Which college player is going to defend him?
