If you get full service dealers you can just tell them in the beginning if you are working or not on come out rolls. My experience they will just "ON" tab your hardways everytime you bet them even if the puck is on. Those dealers certainly make the game more enjoyable even if the table gets cold. When I bet the hardways too I always bet "for the boys" $1 and press it for them if we hit.
I find it intriguing. I would tweak it a little to go for a bigger score. Maybe even start off with $5 on the Hard 6/8. That way you make $9 when it comes easy way. Then when it comes hard, press up both hard 6&8 to $20 or $25 each. If it comes easy, then start over at $5 on the hard number. If it comes hard, then press up both evenly. This could result in uneven bets on the hard numbers, but that'll be part of the fun and you're still winning if they hit and it'll be your luck that the smaller one hit instead and you'll have a story to tell :)
It’s a unique strategy, but I would probably leave it alone because of it’s volatility in the form that was shown. I would probably give it a shot if the amount of the bet between the place and hard ways had a larger disparity. I would try it if I placed $30 on the 6 & 8 while I bet $5 on the hard 6 and 8. If altered, this strategy has some fun potential & I’d give it a go.
I will occasionally play the hard ways because it really is fun. I hadn't really thought about a strategy of playing place bet numbers against Hard Ways but now I realize I have only done it after getting four inside on some monster rolls.
This actually works and has a 1.6 : 1 advantage over the casino over time if you bet the exact each time. Need 20x bet bank roll. If you bet $30 on 6, 8, 6H, 8H you need $2400 BR. I have rolled this out several times and end with usually 1.6 to 2.3 times my BR within a hour or two , but never change bet amount even when you are down or ahead. weighted averages are 106.49 : 66.64 on this. I keep bets ON at all times (come out) and pass on my rolls (don't bet pass line). The longer you play this the closer you get to the average over time. Always bet both the 6s and 8s (all 4 spots) not just the 6 or 8 individually, they both have the same odds and one usually does better than the other and working both gets you to the average quicker. Have fun!
So you win 305 if the hard hits (9*30 + 35 on place bet) and lose 120 on a 7. That means one hard hit erases 2.5 (7out rolls) 7's. You are betting you will hit one of those hard ways at least twice before 5 sevens come out. and this keeps you even basically. Any other 6 or 8 that rolls you gain 5 bucks. (lose the 30 on hard but gain 35 on the place). Statistically and mathematically the double 4 and or double 3 will hit more often than a 7 hitting 2.5 times
@@marcusmoore6856 I’m really confused by your math. There are 6 ways to make 7 but one H6 & one H8. So the ratio of 7’s to Hard 6/8= 3:1. Therefore, mathematically, you would roll 4 Soft 6/8 of $5 ($20 total) + 1 Hard 6/8 of $305 (for a total of $325), but - three 7’s of -$120 (-$360 total) which = an average loss of -$35 for every 18 rolls. You’re actually better off placing $60 on the 6 & 8 since you would roll five 6/8 of $70 (total of $350) for every three 7’s of -$120 (-360 total) = an average loss of only -$10 for every 18 rolls
Just a heads up but a $5 hard 8 pays $50 if you come down or $45 if you stay up, not $100 and down Jeremy. Im sure it was a simple mix up but wanted to correct it in case someone new was viewing haha
Oh wait. Did you have $10 on it at the beginning too? I’m sorry. I thought it was $6 place gets and $5 hardware lol. That makes sense why you did that. My mistake
I think the strategy would be better with 5 dollar hardways with 12 on 6 and 8 and pressing each with each hit like bringing the 6 to 16 on a hit then bringing the hard to 10 so on. Way better than martingaling and putting less at risk with bigger potential
It's too bad that craps tables don't have a record of the last 10 rolls or so, kind of like roulette tables, except showing the exact dice rolls & not just the number (i.e. "3 5" instead of "8"). Then you could keep track of how many times the "easy"s have hit. I know every roll is independent of the others, but for mitigating risk if the easy 8 has come up the last 5 or so 8's, then I might put a bet on the hardway, and place the 8 as well (as you show here to mitigate the risk). Is there such a thing as being "in the zone" when it comes to craps betting and shifting betting strategies around, or is that not a thing?
Lay bets are just as good. Your partner lets you know youve thrown the duce 6-8 times W/OUT a seven. Number 4 & 5 ONLY 2 combis make 4 & 5 on the dice 3 combos make 7 & youve alreadt ducked & dodged it enough to know its coming. Only question is what is your point #? Craps is a beautiful game. If you suck at it bet against yourself & win all night long.
I have a curious question, since the hard ways dont roll that often would it be better to have 2 units on place bets and 1 unit on hard ways, in your example 12 on the 6 and 8 and 5 dollars on the hard ways, that way if you lose it the gain is better than if you have it set to the 10 with only a 4 dollar gain every miss.
I don’t remember the specifics of this strategy, but yea, tweek as you think best. It just depends what numbers end up rolling, then I can tell you what would be best way to go. Ha
@@ColorUp I have just been tweaking a lot of things. My favorite strategy is Dont Come + Iron Cross. Do 2 units bet on Dont Come and 2 units place bet on 6 and 8. And varying on the number that rolls you do a different odds bet, lowest on 6 and 8 since those are the easiest to hit and higher for 4 and 10 since they are harder to hit. And you only do 1 unit on Field. That way if field loses you are earning more when you replace than a slow roll up. But that way after about 3 rolls you have money of every number and just doing a press/push situation.
I wanted to know why it’s 9 to 1 and not 10 to 1 like posted and wonder how they get by the gaming commission with this bs. Thanks for explaining it. It’s “10 for 1” not “10 to 1”… so all casinos should stop saying 10 to 1.. HEX coin $0.008 PULSECHAIN $0.000089
There should be a disclaimer with this strategy. "Kids don't try this at home". :) Good lesson though for those that want to keep it simple. You can simply lose your money or you can try better methods.
I had the opportunity to try this ,, on cruise ship of carnival Cruise Line because we in Florida have no legal crap locations and did very well ,,$12 - 6 and 8 and /// hard way $10 6 and 8 = $44 bet and just keep same bet,, $5.00 table and played other number like 5 and 9 and made some extra money . you can win when the 6 or 8 comes out regular and you only win $4.00 because you have to reload the 6 or 8 hard way.. and $90 on ever hard way rolled because you get paid in both locations plus $90 and $14 = $104 on ever hard way. I use dice setting and try not to throw the 7. and had players pass their diced turn to me...their are players that set dices and will only bet on them..and only bet on them and so many dice setters that i will bet on and please change the name to " Reload Them Hard "
Wheres the big six big eight bets? I got the same stradegy with the whole table. 50 bet 6-8 hard 100 big 6-8. Seven kills ne soft numbers dont. Too bad i cant cover hard 4-10 the same way. But i win this way.
@@ColorUp Thought bet had to go to the field first then to the number? I learned something. I will say 6/8 most common # up. I bet 2X the bet on big 6/8 and half the amount on hard 6/8. Soft 6/8 no longer hurts me but yes. Infernal 7? Massive loss. I like to count the number of rolls. Say 7 rolls no 7 craps roll yet? 4 lay bet as you can't avoid the 7 craps. 4= 2 combos on dice 7= 3 combos on dice. Odds are in your favor both % due to # of rolls & combos on the dice. Remember lay bet you hit 4 lose crap out win.
2,3,4,10,11,12 parlay roll it out! 25 on each number ! When you hit one of these numbers press the 3,4,10 &11! If you hit any of the 6 collect and start over! If you 7 out go up a unit on each and repeat ! I've rolled it out about 20 times with the 5-6 3-5 dice set and have won a pile of money everytime
@@Ebbrush3 I was just letting you know about it if you play at crapless tables! 12 ways to roll these numbers verses 6 ways to roll the 7! Math adds up Plus the payout makes it doable! It's not a martingale either! Just up one unit on a loss everytime! You could roll 4 r 5 point 7 outs and still make your money back plus some in one hit
@@waylonswaycraps so basically a $100 horn and $25 place bets on the 4 and 10? $200 horn when it goes down. $300 horn the next time etc.? Will try rolling it out on my table.
A way to protect yourself against big red is dark side bets. I've had some luck a don't pass and don't come strategy, but I seem to get wiped out if I directly lay the 4 or 10...
