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Thanks to Just Catamarans & Windelo for having me aboard! Check them out here: justcatamarans.net/windelo-50
I have been following the Windelo brand via social media since they first started building more sustainable performance cruising catamarans. These boats are extremely unique because they employ the use of basalt fiber in lieu of traditional fiberglass, in their construction along with being a fully electric sailboat with a diesel generator backup. Combine that with a design built for performance, safety, and the best cockpit I've ever seen, and you get the unicorn, Windelo 50.
I say fully electric because you don't ever NEED to run the diesel to do anything aboard. There's a large battery bank, 6kW of solar, and twin 20kW direct electric drive motors that provide instant power. They can also provide up to 2kW of regeneration back into the battery bank under sail.
The diesel generator is there as a safety feature in the event that you NEED more power.
It's the perfect setup for the modern age of cruising.
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@GermanGreetings
@GermanGreetings 3 месяца назад
Studying and sailing Catamarans for half a century: This layout is simply the absolute Jackpot for a 15 m boat. Thank you for this presentation, Sir !
@svechappe6075
@svechappe6075 3 месяца назад
Finally a practical and elegant solution for arraying the amount of solar panels needed to feed an electric propulsion system.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
Yup and that's not even the max layout.. .. the boats only the 50 ...theres a 55 which gives a slightly neater layout and more space . Plus the boat has a unique hull material ..but I will leave it to him . but geologists ❤ it.😂
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
So finally you got to get aboard a Windelo 😎👍🏼🧙‍♂️🇬🇧
@tittyskillet3413
@tittyskillet3413 3 месяца назад
God i love that boat.
@waterwanders
@waterwanders 3 месяца назад
Thanks so much for making this! Sandy is especially thrilled about getting to see everything she couldn't due to her ankle. Great to meet you on board ... Can't wait to see next week's sailing vid!!!
@wynandduplessis9166
@wynandduplessis9166 3 месяца назад
I love this boat, wow!
@GuyCruls
@GuyCruls 2 месяца назад
a proper 21st century cat - hurrah! quirky, extremely innovative layouts.
@Lokkiism
@Lokkiism 3 месяца назад
I would love to see more mono hauls go this route. It’s time for tech to make its way to the seas
@marchuvfulz
@marchuvfulz 2 месяца назад
Like the integration of the solar/hybrid system. Like the forward cockpit, seems like a good solution for a cat. Don't ike the stairs down from the galley, seems like a safety problem. The inside nav station seems redundant. Navigate from the forward cockpit. Wonder how well closing off that area is going to work in a heavy sea. Hull staterooms look really nice, have to wonder how well the seals on those big windows will last. Like the separate shower, much preferable to wet heads.
@meadmaker4525
@meadmaker4525 Месяц назад
It's not perfect, but it's pretty damned close. There are a few things I would definitely change if I were to buy one, but outside of Chris White or Gunboat cats, you just can't get a good forward cockpit anywhere else, and it's a must have. Perching out in the weather at the very back end of one of the amas has always been a bad helm position, worse if they try to put it on the roof. This is where the helm should be (albeit with a few changes). And I really love the use of basalt, massive solar, and the diesel-electric hybrid system. The problem with buying production cats is that you ALWAYS have to settle for whatever design or engineering decision were built into the thing, because they can't/won't change them for you. So, it's refreshing to see a production cat that gets so close to perfection, at least for my list of requirements.
@0xKruzr
@0xKruzr 10 дней назад
completely agree. most cruiser cats like this should be forward cockpits with the intention of being like a pilothouse build on a monohull. the geometry lends itself to either opening the windows and enjoying the breeze or battening down against weather while still being able to do whatever you need to do with winches and lines in roughly the same configuration either way.
@geniexmay562
@geniexmay562 3 месяца назад
Really love the Windelo. Is the transom only secured with the lifting ropes?? Did it feel solid and secure???
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
The inspirational daddy of this wonderful boats key concept is the Deepblue Rapido r550 which is worth looking at given that its was built in the same yard as the Daz cats .. and though the same length of the W 55 its even more suprising...though nearly a decade older.
@kellymurphy1098
@kellymurphy1098 2 месяца назад
For anyone else who was curious, I believe this poster means the BroadBlue Rapier 550.
@G11713
@G11713 3 месяца назад
Nice. The anchor chain in the cockpit seems like an odor problem waiting to happen. Perhaps it come with a airtight (possibly transparent) cover. Additionally, if the forward cockpit can be made airtight it could function as a buoyancy factor in rough seas, I imagine.
@inneshutton3716
@inneshutton3716 3 месяца назад
Superb boat, if I ever win the lottery would be on my list. Only point - what happens to this boat and its electrics if it takes a lightening strike ? Is there any protection built in or are all electrics fried ?
@stephenlegg6816
@stephenlegg6816 3 месяца назад
luv the boat but what's with the rust on some of the fittings ie genset mounts drain on forward storage hinges and what looks like a drain out of the same storage drain i plan on getting one but i hope they sort out some of these its a new boat after all
@Satronaut-pw3ij
@Satronaut-pw3ij 2 месяца назад
This thing is next level awesome.
@JasonWh
@JasonWh Месяц назад
Sid enote... You can set your recording at 50Hz vs 60Hz and you can void the flicker from shore power.
@mikelind2762
@mikelind2762 2 месяца назад
Love it, but the Dingy needs an eclectic motor with access to solar charging.
@damiant5876
@damiant5876 3 месяца назад
I love this catamaran too. I've been a fan since their launch but alas, like yourself, I'm not in a position to afford one...yet.
@adammallerman8153
@adammallerman8153 3 месяца назад
My experience of most cats I've sailed is they are hot weather boats that you tend to live outside in the cockpit area, which is a shaded exterior living space where you lounge, BBQ, and socialize. It can be an extension of your salon too, and Seawind are particularly good at that design. This boat didn't have that. Yes, when the dingy is down you've got a good sized space but its not a lounging area and for a large cat the interior salon is relatively small and who wants to be inside when your anchored in the Exhumas or Fiji or somewhere remote and beautiful,? Add to that the galley which seems to be in the only place they could find for it, right over the stairs, and it really does lack space. I'm not convinced they couldn't have made far better use of the area than that have, all done i am guessing to allow for the forward situated steering. I must say, I've delivered a boat with that set up and it's got a lot going for it but you find your close quarters visibility isn't great and unlike an aft steering position you can't climb up or stick your head out to see corners. On passage it's really irrelevant as the boat steers itself most of the time and the on watch crewman has little to do. So basically it's a no from me on living space design.
@mattclark6482
@mattclark6482 3 месяца назад
He was probably constricted in his filming and thus didn't show one of the most important features. The boat has a garage-door-like rear wall that raises up for the experiences you're describing. Additionally there is a rear table and sitting area that is stored away which allows for more of a bathing suit like lounging. Lastly, I have never seen this galley design (I agree it's strange), but there is another option that puts the stairs down toward the bow separated from the galley. I would encourage you to watch some other Windelo reviews to see these features.
@glenn2745
@glenn2745 2 месяца назад
The massive loss of living space is due to the ridiculous dual helm forward cockpit. Terrible design choice imho.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 Месяц назад
​@@glenn2745 it's a shared seating area with the internal sliding doors open. Where crew and family can all sit and share the passage safely even someone with mobility issues. Also with all round sliding windows you can open the whole living area up to any breeze. You also have 2m of freeboard and with the canted hulls ...and carefully chosen tramp netting .The boat stays remarkably dry even in heavy seas. . As I've said elsewhere this is the earlier 48/50 the 54 has extra space. For another view see the Barefoot doctor's tour and interview. I was thinking he was going to do a part two .?
@skyak4493
@skyak4493 3 месяца назад
Quite impressive. The integrated walk on solar in particular is something I have never seen before. Even with such a large boat that is a massive amount. The actual output and lifespan will be very interesting. On the one hand I worry about the lifespan, on the other I think the high integration protects so much better that many failure modes are eliminated. The price is substantial, but there are solar cats and sail cats of similar performance that cost the same -this is both! I think the next step is a fuel cell backup with a stable gel for emergency only. By the numbers, it shouldn't be hard to never use that genset. Looking forward to your sail video!
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
Lifespan of the solar is definitely a factor. I'm curious to see how long they last in a cruising setting.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
​@@LearningtheLines Theres recent breakthroughs been made by the Chinese but tested and confirmed by the Germans under EU rules.
@troublekaliman
@troublekaliman 3 месяца назад
mmm, Fuel Cell... w/ hydrogen generation and capture. Combine w/ multi-fuel burning diesel engine (20 yr old mercedes tech) for back-up.. The "biggest" secret problem with hydrogen is that individuals can generate their own fuel. Big Bro doesn't like that...
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
@@troublekaliman Theres two combustion generator motors im looking at the Durham university opposed free piston design.. which uses a reciprocating field generator the other is the Liquid piston Rotary... both of which use only about 50 parts including fasteners in the main engine structure are more efficient because they dont use con rods conventional cranks or all the other bearings etc the trad ICE does but quieter smoother greener. Plus you can rebuild this sort of motor on the cockpit floor. A 40hp liquid piston motor is about the size of a large 🏀 and can be held in the hands . The Durham one was less than half 50cm long 20cm deep and 24 wide with the exhaust and water cooling . Unfortunately Toyota scooped it up developed it ..then hid it . 🤔
@troublekaliman
@troublekaliman 3 месяца назад
awesome! except the part about toyota...they knifed it eh?@@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@GuyCruls
@GuyCruls 2 месяца назад
would love to see a 60ft version, for something less cramped though.
@MaxandTheoShow
@MaxandTheoShow Месяц назад
I am interested to hear about the longevity of all those flexible panels.
@garrettclark2054
@garrettclark2054 2 месяца назад
Great looking boat. I am not a fan of Electric motors. Be sure and keep your boat out of Freezing Weather. I lost half of my battery band in my barn because I didn't keep them from freezing. They had heaters. The lay out of the boat is very nice. I wish you well. Gman
@Useless_Knowledge07
@Useless_Knowledge07 22 дня назад
No temperature control for when the windows and doors need to be closed or winter like climates?
@alanwest4902
@alanwest4902 2 месяца назад
Beautiful catamaran! Tip - Try not to get your hands in the picture frame, we know what you are talking about. I battled through the video because of this. PS This is my first time watching one of your videos. I’ll be back.
@stephenmurray9850
@stephenmurray9850 3 месяца назад
Interesting design , including the wrap around windows in the aft cabins but the design of the saloon looks too small and with very little aft cockpit for entertaining it doesn't seem to work (for me). Really like the center steering area , it would be the best place to be in a swell or the usual rock and roll of a boat on passage. Will be looking forward to your review next week of the sail. Thanks for the video.
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
Fair enough. The aft cockpit does open up a ton to probably double the size when at anchor though.
@ananda_miaoyin
@ananda_miaoyin 3 месяца назад
Wow, that is bitchin! I would probably add a wind generator as well but this thing is damn near autonomous.
@davidcolson7346
@davidcolson7346 3 месяца назад
What was under that area to lay down in the cockpit? Seems to take up so much space.
@creislaw4821
@creislaw4821 3 месяца назад
It's the master cabin. I think there is a version that has smaller daybed and I think bit different galley/saloon layout but you lose some headroom from master and/or the aft guest cabin
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
Its the raised ceiling in the master suit ..its a off duty layout pad or sun pad when at anchor and windows down .. The headroom is very generous in these boats so no banging your head or bending over while walking around below or indoors. Unless your closer to seven foot.
@Nick-im3sm
@Nick-im3sm 3 месяца назад
These are cool, but not my favorite layout of theirs. They offer bunk cabins in the front that I think are more space efficient (both hulls.. Owners side bunks even fold into the wall!!) and this puts the office area forward. I also am not too sure on that TINY washer/dryer combo. Maybe just for my personal clothes, but I doubt you'd be able to wash even one bed's worth of sheets in it. I'd consider having them build one in where that dishwasher goes and maybe use a smaller drawer dishwasher instead. Depends on the aft galley version's layout though, as that's also the one I'd go with. Those stairs look like a menace in a bad sea if you're trying to cook on the forward galley.
@michaelneedham5607
@michaelneedham5607 3 месяца назад
Fun for expert tech troubleshooter, nightmare for others.
@d-rot
@d-rot 2 месяца назад
The flicker of LED lights is because their "refresh" rate is different than the camera's frame rate. Same reason wheels, propellers, rotors in film sometimes look like they're going at odd rates or backwards even.
@stephenlegg6816
@stephenlegg6816 3 месяца назад
Is there no door to close off master cabin looks like a drop down curtain. surely not
@wjk9837
@wjk9837 2 месяца назад
Not going to comment so much on the boat since others already did so. Just like all boats, this one as well has it’s great features and it’s shortcomings. I was following your channel quite some time way back when you and your wife worked (and demo boats) together. Then your first baby arrived and your wife disappeared from videos (to rise to more important tasks and duties no doubt). Short time after you moved to NS (I believe) you started second channel featuring conversion of van to motor home. Unfortunately that was also time where your videos dropped in quality (on both channels) and I dropped both your channels from my subscriptions. Today your channel 'Learning the Lines' appeared on my YT home page, so I viewed couples of clips. Sadly I have to say that there is no improvement in your videos. It is obvious that you you mean well and trying to cover all. But if I may suggest, slow down from 5th to 2nd gear and stop 'dancing' with your camera. Your takes won't be so 'jerky' and believe me, you will actually show a lot more. Well, this is 'my two cents'. I will keep you in my subscriptions for now, to see if your clips will improve, with which I sincerely wish you very best of luck. And for those who got impression that I am 'Mr. Know It All', well, not long ago I was called 'Retired Old Fart Photographer' (with years doing photography for living).
@tancolvis5240
@tancolvis5240 3 месяца назад
it depend on the owner if it suite them
@lanetatom2701
@lanetatom2701 3 месяца назад
Are you the guy that sings "Rich Men Noth of Richmond"?
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
You caught me!
@vzemmanuel
@vzemmanuel 2 месяца назад
What’s a boat like this one go for?
@rolidcz7954
@rolidcz7954 3 месяца назад
Hull is from "basalt - PVC/PET" ? what are the advantages or disadvantages compared to grp ?
@DrJBear-vi8ys
@DrJBear-vi8ys 3 месяца назад
It's about half way to the weight/strength savings of carbon fiber, while using an substrate that takes far less carbon emission to produce.
@rolidcz7954
@rolidcz7954 3 месяца назад
@@DrJBear-vi8ys Interesting, and is the hull self-repairable as a GRP?
@alanspeller9864
@alanspeller9864 2 месяца назад
Great idea just feels a bit cheap and cheerful.😊
@davidmartin3947
@davidmartin3947 Месяц назад
@@rolidcz7954 Yep. And non toxic to work with, with a particle size less likely to enter the lungs. You still need to be suited and masked up though, of course!
@tancolvis5240
@tancolvis5240 3 месяца назад
if solar is pasted on the roof it a mistake bad setting it hv to be replaceable solar panel
@gpocat4518
@gpocat4518 3 месяца назад
I like parts of it. I wish the kitchen design was a little better, especially concerning the stairwell. Maybe they could include a folding table top to provide more work area above the stairs. It could be folded over the stairs when they were not in use and also provide an area to grasp to prevent falling down the stairs. I also wish it had a little more fresh and black water storage.
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
Yeah if I had to nitpick, I'd do away with the nav station and maybe add some counter space/galley on the port side too. I like how there's always something to brace against though.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
Take a look at the 55 and they offer two kitchen layouts and a choice of interior finishes. With the rear doors open the seating part slides /Flips to complete the whole covered outside floating pavillion feel . I think this is an early version ..that did a circular navigation of the Atlantic with two families on board and returned via the Newfoundland Iceland Faeroes Shetland route in horrid weather, dry as a bone.. then down to the Med. Sailing in socks 😂 The Electric hybrid, multi feed in system means it uses a lot less fuel. In fact it tends to arrive with its batteries full and always quiet checks on the motors every two years 🎉
@DrJBear-vi8ys
@DrJBear-vi8ys 3 месяца назад
There is also a u-shaped galley option.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
@@DrJBear-vi8ys 👍🏼It puts the stairway between the cockpit bulkhead and the L shaped kitchen top .. so better for safety but ...perhapse better on the larger 54 ...being French the boats are metric based so actually 48…54...58...theres also a little bro projected. All these boats are regularly single handed by the Windelo team. Theres also a revealing account of how well they handle rough weather provided by the prototype owner and Katamerans.
@princeangel3580
@princeangel3580 3 месяца назад
I prefer the other setup with a bigger kitchen
@ElderSwamp
@ElderSwamp 3 месяца назад
È pensato benissimo!!! In soli 15m .. il prezzo è altissimo ma è ovviamente per una determinata clientela americana mi sa..
@affalada6868
@affalada6868 25 дней назад
a million plus no way dude
@kirkb3473
@kirkb3473 3 месяца назад
Is it just me or is the dual helms in a protected area on a boat that doesn’t heel over that are 2 steps from each other seem a little silly? Very interesting boat, but not what I’d want to be blue water cruising on with a huge following sea.
@mattclark6482
@mattclark6482 3 месяца назад
Seems silly to me too, I would rather have one helm but a good camera system with various views around the boat (especially aft) monitored back to the helm to aid in docking and such.
@skyak4493
@skyak4493 3 месяца назад
I think it is silly to save money on a boat that starts at $1.3M by not providing a windward helm on all points of sail. Waves are much less of a problem in a boat like this because the waves don't go faster than the boat.
@kirkb3473
@kirkb3473 3 месяца назад
@@skyak4493I’m going to go out on a limb and guess you’ve never sailed a catamaran in the open ocean before…
@cliffordbradford8910
@cliffordbradford8910 2 месяца назад
It's not just you mate. The overall layout and interior design is poor. Way too much space taken up by the cockpit. There's no aft outside space which is your typical outside lounging area. The galley is an accident waiting to happen and the dishwasher location is 🤣😂. The nav station is either unnecessary or too small I can't figure which but it looks like an afterthought. Time will tell whether the solar panels will last but from what I've read/seen stick on panels don't last because of overheating... Also not a fan of the large number of colors and textures on the interior finishes.
@dannyjanolo4601
@dannyjanolo4601 3 месяца назад
❤❤❤
@bayareasurfcaster4292
@bayareasurfcaster4292 4 дня назад
bet that thing gets hot with all those black solar panels
@angelromeromora
@angelromeromora 2 месяца назад
Hello, I don't like that boat, could you tell me the basic price?
@tomshedd3067
@tomshedd3067 3 месяца назад
I like the HH diesel electric configuration better
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
Respectfully disagree. This system is simpler, and simpler is usually more reliable.
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665
@clivestainlesssteelwomble7665 3 месяца назад
This systems already proven itself its lighter simpler and easier to repair than an entrained mixed hybrid. Besides you can change and up date all the elements of this system independently ... Try carrying a spare propulsion diesel motor round the world in a saloon stool sized plastic box. .. plus they dont need any servicing for two years. The other thing is the generators can be removed you still have a spare .. and the next thing will be doing away with bulky complex heavy conventional poppet valve piston engines for far smaller simpler lighter multi fuel motors . Basically that you can carry by hand in and out of a standard hatch. You also have huge reductions in battery cost and safety..with Na ion cells hitting the market in cars this year. Running an Ice generator at its Stoichiometric optimum saves fuel pollution and wear. If you need more convincing check out the Edison trucks company of BC and their Topsey hybrid logging truck. Diesels really dont like running at variable speeds /loads and for short periods. They need transmissions and clutches ... More dead wt and complex moving parts. Here the motor drives direct 100% control at all speeds in both directions. 🤷🏻‍♂️😎 The motors can even stand being under water. 😂
@troublekaliman
@troublekaliman 3 месяца назад
Mmm, beautiful comment.
@crowdfundcrew
@crowdfundcrew 2 месяца назад
Would be interested if you ever review a silent yacht. No rigging, no diesel engines (outside generator), possibly a kite sail. Donate for a Dream
@CreepyUncleStupid
@CreepyUncleStupid 3 месяца назад
i would trade my house for this
@user-nj2vv2xm4j
@user-nj2vv2xm4j 3 месяца назад
Very nice boat but you will never get the 6k watts of solar out of that set up. Much of it will be shaded, probably 3-4k at best. Then the flexible panels don't put out as much power and they don't last long. I do love that backup gen though, you'll need it. Electric motors probably should be a little bigger. We just aren't there yet with all solar boats, it will be awesome when we are. Could have been better placement with the solar, so you could have used better panels. The quality of the panels are a big difference. Been doing it for years with RV's. What they did is nice in theory but I wouldn't have done it that way.
@DrJBear-vi8ys
@DrJBear-vi8ys 3 месяца назад
Interested in what you are suggesting for different solar panels and placement.
@davidwood4427
@davidwood4427 3 месяца назад
Absolutely right. Flexible panels attached directly to the deck will overheat and quickly die, probably three years in the tropics. Why don't European builders ever supply kick up rudders to compliment the daggerboards? Lots of other nice innovations though. Certainly a stepping stone between boats of old and what will eventually become a viable alternative.
@justsomeguy6474
@justsomeguy6474 3 месяца назад
I really like the boat but those stairs off the galley look like a real hazard when underway. Rough seas and a fall is bound to happen. Would need to gate that off for safety.
@monsterhog1118
@monsterhog1118 3 месяца назад
No outside seating 🤔
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
Open up all the windows an you're outside.
@svechappe6075
@svechappe6075 3 месяца назад
Yeah, but when you fully open up those aft salon doors, it basically creates an indoor/outdoor space.
@monsterhog1118
@monsterhog1118 3 месяца назад
@@LearningtheLines no not really
@GoodkatNW
@GoodkatNW 3 месяца назад
@@LearningtheLines That's....not what "outside" means.....the aft cockpit is tiny, and there are *plenty* of performance cruising cats that offer a lifted dinghy without compromising on space. And in this case, not only do you not have any useable space while under sail, but there's practically no safety features to keep you from just walking off the sugar scoops. The lifelines end a few feet forward, and the dinghy davit/cockpit extension looks to be just a single pivot point held in with a bolt on each side.
@timothyhelt1115
@timothyhelt1115 2 часа назад
Just tell us the price, from the beginning!!! We want to understand today's value!!!!
@drxym
@drxym 6 часов назад
Electric could be the default for a lot of boats - cats, sailboats, cruisers. Yeah stick a small engine in as a backup but charge off the wind / solar by default. And cats have so much surface area that it's a no brainer since the range of a solar powered cat is far more than most people are likely to do in a single day of cruising. Especially for the money that people would save in fuel, and not having to go to a fueling dock, plus noise / vibration. Biggest issue is that electric is still relatively new to marine and where it is available, it costs stupid amounts of money.
@JamiePopkin
@JamiePopkin 3 месяца назад
Love your videos. Always positive... Respect!!! But man. This was shining a turd. Haha. When the buyer shouldn't be allowed to make decisions.
@eddieohearn17
@eddieohearn17 3 месяца назад
I’ve watched these videos about this particular boat several times, and I still see no way to secure access to the boat to the steering. The best I can see is someone can easily get into the steering section with the two helms. This is something that I do not like at all.
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
You can get behind the helms through a cabinet in the cockpit.
@eddieohearn17
@eddieohearn17 3 месяца назад
@@LearningtheLines that is not what I said. I have not seen any way to close up access to the steering. Thus the boat is not secured. And anyone worth their salt can sail off a dock and there goes the boat
@DrJBear-vi8ys
@DrJBear-vi8ys 3 месяца назад
Any boat with an external helm has the same issue. With minor modifications, washboards could be added to the forward openings.
@eddieohearn17
@eddieohearn17 3 месяца назад
@@DrJBear-vi8ys this is true but entering from the forward station gives hidden access to the interior. Nothing like breaking into a boat when no one can see what you are doing even at noon. Not this is a problem but I this is also one of three boats I am looking at
@withoutwroeirs
@withoutwroeirs 4 дня назад
Man a plastic hood up front in rough weather, would never trust that on long passages.
@lvi3818
@lvi3818 2 месяца назад
This boat is for northern climates where it's colder and rainier and you want more indoor living space and a protected cockpit. But then the solar is not going to be that effective there (scratches head)
@davidmartin3947
@davidmartin3947 Месяц назад
In northern latitudes, you are actually likely to be sailing it in the summer, not the winter. That means that the hours of daylight are longer than in the tropics, but the heat is still not so intense, and solar panels really, really do not like getting hot, and lose a lot of efficiency so they are likely to provide more energy, not less, in real operating conditions than in the tropics and low latitudes. I agree with comments that the attachment of the panels directly to the deck is questionable though, from both the wear and the heat POV
@bigcity2085
@bigcity2085 3 месяца назад
Forward helm is brilliant. Salon is too small for a cat that size. Rear cockpit as well, too small. Suicide galley is ...nonsense. Below decks are okay. She's...a little in the raw stage. Just my opinion.
@jerrycooke6511
@jerrycooke6511 2 месяца назад
The layout is pretty goofy. The galley being ridiculously dangerous and a major traffic problem. I still don't understand front cockpits. Separates the crew and can see a wave coming into the interior.
@sailingsandy7971
@sailingsandy7971 3 месяца назад
I dont see the point of electric propulsion as done on this boat. With 53Kwh of batteries you will basically get about 16nm of cruising range and you have nothing left. Even though you have 6kw of solar, you practically only get half of that with shading and say you get 5 good hours of solar you would be lucky to get 15kwh, maybe 30kwh of energy. Not enough to keep up with the propulsion. So you will end up using diesel a lot in real world scenarios. 18kw engines is also low for such a sized boat. In the sailing front, like the cockpit, but the stairs by the kitchen is not safe. Nice boat, but not the propulsion system.
@johnmoser1162
@johnmoser1162 18 дней назад
Solar panels will not last very long besides the efficiency will drop dramatically (they are not cooled).
@geoffstrebel2808
@geoffstrebel2808 3 месяца назад
My vote is no, since it lacks a flybridge.
@louislegrand9025
@louislegrand9025 4 дня назад
It is a performance cruising catamaran -> no flybridge
@geoffstrebel2808
@geoffstrebel2808 4 дня назад
@@louislegrand9025 Gunboat 72 -> undisputed ruler of performance catamarans -> has flybridge.
@ttirrem
@ttirrem 3 месяца назад
That kitchen with the stairs looks just plain dangerous.
@adventvans
@adventvans 3 месяца назад
Sorry to be sounding negative. But this is such a poor interior layout design. that kitchen is 3 out of 10. They need to re-evaluate the floor plan. this is awful for a beautiful boat.
@chriskelly6559
@chriskelly6559 3 месяца назад
Looks cluttered.
@angelromeromora
@angelromeromora 2 месяца назад
Aseguró es lo ideal para una pareja excelente cocina Lo mejor que he visto😊
@cliffordbradford8910
@cliffordbradford8910 2 месяца назад
Agreed, the interior especially the entire bridge deck is poor in overall concept
@AntoineGrondin
@AntoineGrondin 2 месяца назад
I also thought the work areas all make very poor desks, and the galley requires disturbing the cook to go in the starboard hull, which is interesting...
@MrSoopah
@MrSoopah 25 дней назад
disagree completely
@gwstrauss65
@gwstrauss65 3 месяца назад
Respectfully disagree on liferaft location. In inverted you will never get it...if need it quickly it should be close to cockpit and salon not have to go forward to deploy it.
@LearningtheLines
@LearningtheLines 3 месяца назад
Inverted, catamarans go stern down typically. Having it forward ensures it stays above water. It can be deployed inverted as easily as it can be deployed right side up.
@gwstrauss65
@gwstrauss65 3 месяца назад
@@LearningtheLines I'll stick with rear location. After of trampoline will still. E under. And as salon fills it will sink more.
@DrJBear-vi8ys
@DrJBear-vi8ys 3 месяца назад
It is designed to be available from either side of the trampoline. Webbing ties can be removed from either side.
@geofferyrobertson6608
@geofferyrobertson6608 Месяц назад
strange after all the solar and electric motors they STILL. HAVE. A OLD OUTBOARD on the dingy !!! WHY NOT ELECTRIC ???
@PhilipHermannBe
@PhilipHermannBe 2 месяца назад
Floor plan is poor, that kitchen feels very insecure to me…
@brettlopez6641
@brettlopez6641 2 месяца назад
For a 1 person craft it would be fine. Maybe 2 max. Anymore than that, naw
@marcutrillogibert9154
@marcutrillogibert9154 3 месяца назад
Are you in a hurry?
@waynepalmer9423
@waynepalmer9423 21 день назад
First some will love it some my not for me.i will start with what I like the walkable solar panels are nice , the back where the dingy goes that can lower when at anchor is nice but I think would be better if it lowered to water level . But I'm not really impressed with this one especially for the price tag not a fan of the interior and why would they put that big of trampoline instead of making the interior go farther out under like on most cats like the privilege or some of the sunreefs. This to me doesn't seem like a good boat for anyone sailing /motoring more then an hour or so to destination. Cuz even with 2 people that want to go cruising and circle navigating just seems like a poor interior design.and the thought of 12 people on this boat can't even imagine like I said this would be good for a weekend warrior with 1.5 + millon to spend but iv seen alot others in that price range that for me seems like a way better bang for the buck
@vitaliykor5252
@vitaliykor5252 2 месяца назад
Very nice joke
@susanroberts6514
@susanroberts6514 2 месяца назад
Kitchen set up is just dumb.
@trickedouttech321
@trickedouttech321 2 месяца назад
No, the answer is no, NO Cat is a great Bluewater boat, only in good weather conditions is a cat good in bluewater. I would take a Mono in mid to bad weather over a CAT every time. Don't get me wrong I like Catamarans, I just don't think they are better than a mono for bluewater sailing. This is a great rich man's coastal boat all day long, but bluewater only in good weather I would not like to get caught in bad weather out in the middle of the ocean in a Cat, you probably will be okay but your odds do down with a cat for sure.
@glenn2745
@glenn2745 2 месяца назад
Bluewater electric sailboat? This is an oxymoron...
@daivietnguyen7289
@daivietnguyen7289 2 месяца назад
She is a hybrid !!!
@LawrenceBlitz
@LawrenceBlitz 2 месяца назад
When I first saw this boat a few months back I thought it had some interesting features. The more I watch the videos the less I'm convinced. While Im not sure of this vessel's age I saw gaskets falling off, rust on some fittings and in this video it appeared that wood work was just poor quality and space planning was filling voids. I did not like that galley with refrig drawers hanging over stairs and stove one step from falling down flight. Way too dangerous at sea. The nav station is also a waste of space with the twin helm area. In the warmer climates, I believe you'll feel like you're stuck inside. Disappointing as the more I review this boat the less I like it.
@micheljansen85
@micheljansen85 Месяц назад
I dont get this boat at all.
@4EvMyLovSav
@4EvMyLovSav 3 месяца назад
I would prefer all selling anything with panels to show meter readings inside under them & if the ceiling was shielded & painted with the paint that prevents the electromagnetic radiation. All solar panels(unless you can show on meter these new ones corrected that) give off high amounts of this radiation which makes many sick without knowing what is the causes. GET A METER & READ UP ON IT!! Compare it on a meter to regular electricity which will hardly register on a meter. This is why most are taking panels off roofs of homes & putting them in frames away from yard & home. As the readings are usually high on solar panels. There is shielding & paint that protects but you have said nothing about any of that being added to this catamaran. Which you need to if your not omitting on purpose hoping potential buyers like me are not informed. If it is not shielded or panel unimproved in that then this cat will become for sale sooner than later due to illnesses or cancers of next owners.
@SynicalBeats
@SynicalBeats 3 месяца назад
What in the world are you talking about? You've been had and it's embarrassing
@iCitizenTube
@iCitizenTube 2 месяца назад
So there is zero outside space to eat and relax. This boat is awful.
@stevesteel6066
@stevesteel6066 3 месяца назад
Burning diesel to power a yacht is stupid! A yacht should sail! Have you ever thought of sailing? Or are you just going to show overpriced boats?
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