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@ernon69
@ernon69 5 месяцев назад
Please pay more attention to GB and GiB, plus I like to see the real number, assuming your storage is 512GB I made the true calculation in GB: Fedora - 7.7 GB Arch - 45 GB Ubuntu - 49.2 GB Windows - 72 GB
@draftofspasiba2
@draftofspasiba2 5 месяцев назад
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@CA-JA
@CA-JA 5 месяцев назад
Is arch using GiB or GB ?
@LordHonkInc
@LordHonkInc 5 месяцев назад
@@CA-JA4:10 it shows GiB
@Batwam0
@Batwam0 5 месяцев назад
I was quite surprised Ubuntu and Arch could take this much space. That didn’t look right 😮
@Mauzy0x00
@Mauzy0x00 5 месяцев назад
All of these tests with endeavor are taken with a grain of salt
@foolmeonce-tc3ei
@foolmeonce-tc3ei 3 месяца назад
Edge opens faster on Windows 11 because it was running in the background already.
@ParthyFrez
@ParthyFrez 12 дней назад
Windows 11 itself boots fast because it never properly closes all the open files 😅
@azenyr
@azenyr 5 месяцев назад
Note that Edge on Windows 11 is always preloaded in the background at all times. You can disable this, but its enabled by default which means its still on your ram even if you don't use it
@aladdin8623
@aladdin8623 5 месяцев назад
Not only ram but it occupies vram like some other apps in windows. This results in less free vram for games.
@aladdin8623
@aladdin8623 5 месяцев назад
Especially ngreedia gpu owners may not like to have even less vram :)
@astronemir
@astronemir 5 месяцев назад
I mean we can also optimize the shit out of our Linux kernels never mind the desktop environment and distro. I think it makes sense to test vanilla like this. Was really informative
@arshkhanlm3086
@arshkhanlm3086 5 месяцев назад
@@aladdin8623 NVIDIA GeForce more like NVIDIA GeNocide (They are building a supercomputer for Israel)
@EquaTechnologies
@EquaTechnologies 5 месяцев назад
Teams too, it makes your fan race, like really.
@notuxnobux
@notuxnobux 5 месяцев назад
The reason things like kdenlive loaded faster on arch linux is because it ran kde plasma. The qt and other libraries are already loaded as they are used by other processes
@chickenbobbobba
@chickenbobbobba 5 месяцев назад
thats a solid point, itd be very interesting to see a comparison between windows, and a distro like fedora with different DEs / WMs (eg gnome, kde, xfce and / or lxde, and maybe i3 / sway)
@SloppyPuppy
@SloppyPuppy 4 месяца назад
Makes sense, integrated tool chains.
@goldenmatrix
@goldenmatrix 5 месяцев назад
Just one thing, 435 Gib are equal to 467 Gb so windows is last 😢
@piman13_71
@piman13_71 5 месяцев назад
I really don't get why windows continues to use GB when everything else seemingly uses ... idk which there called like we keep representing Gib as GB and that gets so confusing
@LaugeHeiberg
@LaugeHeiberg 5 месяцев назад
​@@piman13_71It's metric vs binary Funny how metric is the one that makes less sense
@piman13_71
@piman13_71 5 месяцев назад
@@LaugeHeiberg Ya but honestly what bothers me most is why we don't just pick Binary and go with it. OMG some idiot who didn't know now thinks he has more storage! THAT'S IT! nothing else changes because windows is the only one who uses the messed up version
@uuu12343
@uuu12343 5 месяцев назад
Goddamn it, Gibi vs Giga strikes again
@darkiceywolf2953
@darkiceywolf2953 5 месяцев назад
Well, no, there's gigabit, and there is gigabyte those are two different mesurments infact isps will usually advertise there speed in gigabit not gigabyte.
@frankhuurman3955
@frankhuurman3955 5 месяцев назад
always love comparison videos like this, thanks :) tiny suggestion for next time: when you call out the time of one of the OS-es, stick that time in the screen of that OS. This way we can also visually compare them which is easier than running back the video to hear your voice. (and stop + remove the timer once the last OS has done its thing)
@ricardog.s2505
@ricardog.s2505 5 месяцев назад
If I'm completely honest as a Linux user of two years, the differences aren't that high right now between distros and Windows, but when I started using it there was a clear advantage for Windows in most things while Linux was behind or close behind, but right now this isn't the case and that speaks really good for Linux devs and distro maintainers
@bobdouglass8010
@bobdouglass8010 5 месяцев назад
I have been exclusively on kde and macos for a couple years now. when I use windows i'm shocked at how clumsy the experience is, like system-wide freezes while explorer decides whether or not a network mount is viable
@demoonk420
@demoonk420 4 месяца назад
still bad support nvidia, flickering and other.
@kishirisu1268
@kishirisu1268 4 месяца назад
So you finally have workimg language switcher on linux after 20 years of development? I dont ask about multimonitor support, next 30 yeras and job done LOL
@Azertyyys
@Azertyyys 4 месяца назад
​@@bobdouglass8010so shocking. Rare ass freezes when you do a super specific task, that linux is better at because its an ancient ass OS that still relies on terminal heavily.
@MF2_ETaube
@MF2_ETaube 4 месяца назад
It's just crazy how good is GNU/linux.
@user-dz3ph7dl4m
@user-dz3ph7dl4m 5 месяцев назад
Surprising battery result - great to see
@bkmnst
@bkmnst 5 месяцев назад
yeah, really surprising, considering hw acceleration in chromium is not a strong point of linux
@absor2820
@absor2820 5 месяцев назад
​@@bkmnst Yes, I'm curious if it's a local video playback test with VLC and hardware acceleration on
@chickenbobbobba
@chickenbobbobba 5 месяцев назад
@@bkmnst iirc there is some work happening to make hw acceleration work nicely on linux, so really hoping to see when that comes out
@AndRei-yc3ti
@AndRei-yc3ti 5 месяцев назад
​@@chickenbobbobba acceleration already works in firefox apparently
@chickenbobbobba
@chickenbobbobba 5 месяцев назад
@@AndRei-yc3ti neat
@AQDuck
@AQDuck 5 месяцев назад
I know that Endeavour is about as close to Arch you can get without being vanilla Arch, but it's a bit misleading to call it "Arch" in a benchmarking video, especially when you check things like boot speed, storage, etc. Also I think going with Plasma for Endeavour nerfed it a bit extra, I think either going with Endeavour default (XFCE) or GNOME would be more fair. Not saying you shouldn't have used Endeavour, just call it "Endeavour".
@KajuTheRudeMonke
@KajuTheRudeMonke 5 месяцев назад
I agree
@iandieb
@iandieb 5 месяцев назад
Yeah, it's just like saying you are testing Debian while actually using Ubuntu.
@Kashim_o
@Kashim_o 5 месяцев назад
Endeavouros default is no longer XFCE, they switched to KDE a few months ago
@MisterZig0
@MisterZig0 5 месяцев назад
​@@Kashim_oI did not know that, my live/installer USB is still using xfce.
@OkarinHououinKyouma
@OkarinHououinKyouma 4 месяца назад
Lmao going with Plasma gave advantage to KDE
@technofi2554
@technofi2554 5 месяцев назад
Please do this test again after kernel 6.9 is released later this year! Would be cool to see an intel vs AMD laptop comparison as well as desktop etc
@HerrDoktorWeberMD
@HerrDoktorWeberMD 5 месяцев назад
windows losing in the read/write and other CPU tests can probably be chalked up to a couple things... mainly, linux dev hasn't focused on graphics cards quite as long as windows has, but also, windows is probably tying up a good chunk of the CPU and RAM bandwidth to compile and transmit every moment of your existence to Microsoft so they can sell it to advertisers
@looncraz
@looncraz 5 месяцев назад
The main slow down is undoubtedly from Windows Defender, every action is being scanned and monitored by an anti-virus that none of the Linux distros have.
@nahidahmed9153
@nahidahmed9153 5 месяцев назад
@@looncraz i am sure thats the reason
@edelzocker8169
@edelzocker8169 5 месяцев назад
​@@looncraz clamAV is installed on my system and realtime protection is on but it always says 0% cpu...
@Codyslx
@Codyslx 4 месяца назад
Good ole tin foil hat innit.
@kyledupont7711
@kyledupont7711 2 месяца назад
You will get better fps in linux because you cant figure out how to get your monitor to display at native resolution
@medisshehi9335
@medisshehi9335 5 месяцев назад
Honestly, have been playing on linux for 2 years now and the situation is really improving, some games are implementing the linux compatible EAC (example For Honor) so all it's missing is some open source nvidia drivers
@ShrootBuck
@ShrootBuck 5 месяцев назад
Even those are getting pretty good, didn't the nvk driver outperform official nvidia drivers on some stuff?
@Timely-ud4rm
@Timely-ud4rm 5 месяцев назад
Those open-source NVIDIA drivers do exist! They've recently added support for Vulkan, and while there are still features missing, the project is making significant progress.
@ProtossOP
@ProtossOP 5 месяцев назад
@@ShrootBuckiirc in some games it did by a few percent, nothing crazy though. Too bad initial support is for 16/20 series and higher, my poor 1060 is crying.
@medisshehi9335
@medisshehi9335 5 месяцев назад
@@Timely-ud4rm I remember that we got them but are still at 60% performance on avarage, but at this point I can see them getting close to proprietary in 1-2 years
@justinchristy9047
@justinchristy9047 5 месяцев назад
IS "GREEN LUMA " supported on linux? Also can we mod games in linux like skyrim, gta v etc?
@bvd_vlvd
@bvd_vlvd 5 месяцев назад
Ubuntu did surprisingly well. Fedora and Arch are both running a lot newer kernel versions so I thought Fedora would beat Ubuntu in virtually every task since you didn't go for 23.10, but Ubuntu ended up getting a lot of Ws against Fedora!
@xbeast7585
@xbeast7585 5 месяцев назад
Thank You So Much I Appreciate Your Efforts So Much ❤
@kuretaxyz
@kuretaxyz 5 месяцев назад
Great comparison, thanks for the video. However, if you are going to call EndeavorOS Arch Linux, you might as well call Ubuntu Debian ☺
@fireninja8250
@fireninja8250 5 месяцев назад
I'm on Debian switching from Ubuntu. They're basically the same so I don't get your point.
@AzureUnlinked
@AzureUnlinked 5 месяцев назад
Ubuntu is bloated as heck and uses snap, meaning dependencies dont get shared amongst packages. I guess thats about it​@@fireninja8250
@da_pwo
@da_pwo 5 месяцев назад
@@fireninja8250 same with endeavouros and arch
@bibekshah3701
@bibekshah3701 5 месяцев назад
​@@fireninja8250, most cases, yes. This video is a comparison of minor differences. It's entirely different. Also, KDE and gnome is a whole different thing, back when I used either of those, KDE was like giga slow.
@OkarinHououinKyouma
@OkarinHououinKyouma 4 месяца назад
If you enable the Ubuntu repo on Debian, you are basically using Ubuntu.
@oscarcharliezulu
@oscarcharliezulu 5 месяцев назад
Is there a way to test for the most reliable or ‘available’ in terms of reboots needed, bsod’s or any type of outage, updates, etc?
@premnathd
@premnathd 2 месяца назад
I have been using Fedora for a month on my laptop. I am suprised at the battery performance of my laptop. When I close the lid the battery use to drain in a few hours but on Fedora, it doesn't drain and wakes up quickly on opening the lid again. Even when opening after 2 days, the battery has not dropped much. Similar to what I have seen on my M1 Macbook Air. Is this the same with other linux distros as well or only with Fedora ?
@limeisgaming
@limeisgaming 4 месяца назад
What File systems and partitioning schemes did you use on the Linux installations ?
@alexsalois5372
@alexsalois5372 5 месяцев назад
I really appreciate that you used proper benchmarking software like phoronix test suite! I would appreciate more charts with numbers that have more significant digits. IE 1.244K vs 1.2K. The charts you generated did look nicer! Keep it up!
@adonnen
@adonnen 5 месяцев назад
Would be interesting (and useful) to see the benchmarks in wsl.
@theworldoffun8997
@theworldoffun8997 5 месяцев назад
wsl is a virtual machine, dude. Results are gonna be lower
@adonnen
@adonnen 5 месяцев назад
@@theworldoffun8997 Obviously. But how much lower? How much worse than bare-metal linux? Can it beat native Windows for some of the poorer-optimized workloads? These are really Practical issues. Honestly, just seeing a short or addendum would be nice, though I know it's not likely he sees this.
@BestSpatula
@BestSpatula 5 месяцев назад
@@theworldoffun8997 wsl is not a virtual machine, wsl2 is.
@emeukal7683
@emeukal7683 5 месяцев назад
​@@adonnenit's alot lower. But on any quadcore laptop u can use any terminal application just fine on windows. Or learn powershell and use remmina for ssh.
@BattousaiHBr
@BattousaiHBr 5 месяцев назад
@@BestSpatula wsl2 superseded wsl1, when people say "wsl" they are referring to wsl2.
@Bob-qz5yj
@Bob-qz5yj 5 месяцев назад
what settings did you use for these? Both windows and fedora come with profiles which can heavily skew the results depending on what you're aiming for
@miguelborges7913
@miguelborges7913 5 месяцев назад
GiB not the same as GB
@blueSurfer
@blueSurfer 5 месяцев назад
I moved from win 10 -> win 11 -> Ubuntu -> fedora in a span of one week.Fedora is working smoothly for now.I did face some issues initially but it is fine now
@SifatUllah-12
@SifatUllah-12 5 месяцев назад
about the file copying test, I have a computer running Linux, and my laptop on Windows 11. And copying anything to / from my pendrive is faster than Windows, BUT, WITH ONE QUIRK. Idk why but in Linux, whenever I finish copying files to my pendrive, it takes some time when I try to eject it. But in Windows, as soon as the transfer is finished, I can immediately eject it. So ultimately, In Linux, its transfer time + eject time. Where in Windows, its only the transfer time. If anyone has any logical explanation for this please clarify.
@iijj22gg
@iijj22gg 5 месяцев назад
The Linux kernel makes your file available at it's new location faster by moving most of the data and updating the filesystem, while in the background it's still moving the rest of the data (like from the USB to your hard drive). Why? Developer obsession. If you didn't want to detach the drive right away, you wouldn't notice a thing.
@SifatUllah-12
@SifatUllah-12 5 месяцев назад
@iijj22gg What is "Developer Obsession"? And it's this a bit misleading? Like it shows the copying is complete, but if you try to eject it, is says "Do not remove, writing data to usb". Why not just show the real speed in the first place? I'm guessing the answer is "developer obsession", so, I'd be greatful if you clarify this term also.
@iijj22gg
@iijj22gg 5 месяцев назад
@@SifatUllah-12 Basically the devs who worked on this were obsessed with storage management, to the point where people have made debatable decisions. Although to further clarify, an entirely different set of developers worked on the GUI app you used to drag and drop the file, and I've only seen one or two file managers with a lingering visual indicating the kernel is still cleaning up in the background.
@knowledgedose1956
@knowledgedose1956 Месяц назад
does btrfs solves this? i am not an expert
@SifatUllah-12
@SifatUllah-12 Месяц назад
@@knowledgedose1956 Can't tell, I only ever used the ext4 file system because I'm not an expert in these file systems and I've heard ext4 is the most stable and standard fike system for Linux. But I've tried the latest Ubuntu 24.04 with Gnome 46. I think the time needed to eject the USB drive is noticably less than before!
@rc2276
@rc2276 5 месяцев назад
Well done. All this extensive testing would have taken you ages.
@aerohk
@aerohk 4 месяца назад
great test, thanks for the work
@mitch5222
@mitch5222 5 месяцев назад
Anyone has any idea how to use linux when everybody is using windows in my company and i cannot use linux due to sharing same git repository. Problem is file permission and some naming in branches (capitalized naming) and windows users can have problems due to that. I tried mounting ntfs git drive but was a mess too.
@rumplin
@rumplin 5 месяцев назад
Hint: When you copy stuff on windows and you click on "Fewer details" it will transfer faster, because it's not doing the caluclation for speed anymore.
@mimitan
@mimitan 19 дней назад
If he transfered files via commandline like Xcopy it would have been even faster than that even.
@FlorinArjocu
@FlorinArjocu 5 месяцев назад
What versions of the kernel did the 3 Linux machines have? If it is a new CPU, battery life should be better on new kernels.
@BUDA20
@BUDA20 5 месяцев назад
on EndeavourOS installing using BTRFS automatically selects zstd disk compression and it will be the smaller install from that point forward (yes, zstd is great)
@MannyGraal
@MannyGraal 5 месяцев назад
Hey Techhut, it's good to know you are still making videos. 👍Hope everything is going well
@TechHut
@TechHut 5 месяцев назад
It's been busy! Content should pick up. Just graduated university.
@MannyGraal
@MannyGraal 5 месяцев назад
@@TechHut Graduation is huge, congrats! You must be feeling so relieved from that. Looking forward to the future videos. I'm currently excited to test out the pop OS cosmic desktop when it comes out to beta.
@n3kowarrior
@n3kowarrior 5 месяцев назад
4:12 have you cleaned old pacman packages on Arch based system?
@z̈̇i
@z̈̇i 3 месяца назад
He was wrong here as there is a big difference between GiB and Gb in terms of storage
@kelton5020
@kelton5020 5 месяцев назад
Do you run these tests more than one to get average
@mdzaid5925
@mdzaid5925 22 дня назад
Which laptop you used for testing?
@saffanalvy
@saffanalvy 5 месяцев назад
Awesome video, thanks.
@wandererstraining
@wandererstraining 5 месяцев назад
Any ideas about why that render was nearly twice as fast on Fedora compared to Ubuntu?
@Mereo110
@Mereo110 5 месяцев назад
What was the testing methodology? Did you repeat the tests at least 3 times for each OS?
@TechHut
@TechHut 5 месяцев назад
Yes, I repeated tests for all the synthetic benchmarking. Also repeated the side by sides just to make sure there wasn't any abnormalities from the initial recording. I ran the geekbench tests three times and phoronix test suite does three runs and gives us the average. Computer had about 10 minutes of idle time between each benchmark.
@Pieteros21
@Pieteros21 5 месяцев назад
mine fedora already has kernel 6.7.4 for few days ... i wonder when mesa 24 ?
@Agasis-42
@Agasis-42 4 месяца назад
What is that usb with the removable nvme called?
@oimateusaqui
@oimateusaqui 5 месяцев назад
I have a tablet (nabu) that runs Windows 11 and Ubuntu 23.10 (both aarch64), so this video came in very handy 😁
@jadrankodolovcak627
@jadrankodolovcak627 5 месяцев назад
Nice tube, would like to see some video encoding results in test like that. Especially if you will do N100 benchmarks.
@cracklingsoda
@cracklingsoda 5 месяцев назад
Great video!🎉🎉🎉
@Hansjohannessen
@Hansjohannessen 5 месяцев назад
Could you give a pros and cons with twingate vs wireguard?
@RavensLolz
@RavensLolz 5 месяцев назад
I installed Fedora 39 a week back. After setting up thr nvidia drivers, it is butter smooth, uses very less ram (2gb) as compared to windows 11 microwin (4gb).
@chickenbobbobba
@chickenbobbobba 5 месяцев назад
im on nobara linux (fedora based) and it uses 1.3gb idle, which is sooo nice on my laptop with 8gb ram. windows took 4.5gb on the OEM install
@MF2_ETaube
@MF2_ETaube 4 месяца назад
On a 8gb laptop, using win11 is painful an extreme debloat still uses more gb of ram, compared to just a standart fresh install of GNU
@z̈̇i
@z̈̇i 3 месяца назад
went to actual arch linux on my laptop recently and with hyprland loaded it idles at 600mb of ram. Insane difference from windows 😂
@MF2_ETaube
@MF2_ETaube 3 месяца назад
@@z̈̇i I just recently installed fedora on my laptop also did some light debloating, because half of the stuff in fedora really isn't useful, like calendar, software center, virtual machine, ibus extensions. And now my laptop uses a whooping 1gb of Ram, compared to always 2,5gb on a heavy debloat of windows. Even with firefox, just 2gb
@z̈̇i
@z̈̇i 3 месяца назад
@@MF2_ETaube nice man gotta love to hear it. Same with my system now, during workload with around 6-10 browser tabs open my system is chilling around 2-3G of ram which is so nice. Windows was maxxing out those 8gbs I got all the time. I used ubuntu for a couple months first though which also ran quite alright but arch is simply on something else ahhah
@chopin4525
@chopin4525 5 месяцев назад
Why using Crafty instead of some other modern open source engine like Stokfish? The project has been abandoned a long time ago and very likely the code does not scale well on modern CPU or even older ones considering how much time has passed.
@TechHut
@TechHut 5 месяцев назад
I'll note this for future benchmarking videos. Thank you.
@chopin4525
@chopin4525 5 месяцев назад
@@TechHut No problem, asked out of curiosity! 👍
@agoniavr
@agoniavr 5 месяцев назад
Not directly related to the video but I noticed you have a iMac behind you, may I ask what you use it for? Is it for proprietary software reason or something else? I'm curious because I also love Linux but I always have to keep either a Windows or MacOS pc around to use some software that I really really need like Lightroom, the VSTs I use to record guitar in Reaper which also work as standalone amps on these os and so on.
@ExponentialWorkload
@ExponentialWorkload 5 месяцев назад
For arch, you can get a way lower space footprint if you install a more minimal initial packageset during the setup; e.g. just installing GNOME + base stuff, or plasma + base stuff - a base plasma system can take up less than 6GB in many cases. I have a feeling that using endeavouros may have also affected boot times significantly
@marioandresheviacavieres1923
@marioandresheviacavieres1923 5 месяцев назад
great report
@DaNiePred
@DaNiePred 4 месяца назад
Would be interesting to see which filesystems the different Linuxes were installed to and if baremetal or LVM is used. I am sure this makes a difference in the test results.
@ashishkushwaha6430
@ashishkushwaha6430 5 месяцев назад
Finally after a long time . This video i always want ❤❤❤❤🎉🎉
@raupeniemalssatt8193
@raupeniemalssatt8193 Месяц назад
I thought the main difference between the distros is the way they manage their packages. So the difference in performance would be the result of different versions of the used libraries and packages. Do I see this right?
@supernovice8350
@supernovice8350 5 месяцев назад
May I know the device specs? At least I wanna know the battery capacity.
@CyberTechSRB
@CyberTechSRB 5 месяцев назад
I use Fedora KDE variant and works nice for me + its installed on kingston sata SSD.
@gagangurung5297
@gagangurung5297 5 месяцев назад
me too
@user-kv5he9np2y
@user-kv5he9np2y 4 месяца назад
For gaming who are the best? OS or distros
@stanleyb5974
@stanleyb5974 3 месяца назад
Great comparison. Wish you also do a side by side comparison with Linux Mint.
@nichohells
@nichohells 5 месяцев назад
But, why compare the LTS version of Ubuntu instead of just Mantic Minotaur vs Fedora 39?
@massformationpsychosis7681
@massformationpsychosis7681 5 месяцев назад
Nice.. Also, these bots need to stop lmao
@mattjax16
@mattjax16 5 месяцев назад
What’s ur worst job lol
@TechHut
@TechHut 5 месяцев назад
Right, like at least make sense lol
@rutra8002
@rutra8002 5 месяцев назад
why u use endevaouros instead of arch?
@AndersHass
@AndersHass 5 месяцев назад
It will take longer but you could consider calculating the storage of preinstalled programs to get a better picture of the size of the OS.
@morfyum
@morfyum 4 месяца назад
File transfer results not real. On Linux systems need "sync" command after copy/move because Kernel does not finished in background.
@AswinC2
@AswinC2 5 месяцев назад
I wonder if using endeavour xfce would make any difference 🤷‍♂
@JohnUntivero
@JohnUntivero 5 месяцев назад
Interested to see these benchmarks, but with wsl2 included
@thekaczynsky88
@thekaczynsky88 5 месяцев назад
Was core isolation disabled on win11? It lowers performace a lot
@timothygibney159
@timothygibney159 5 месяцев назад
Yep and memory protection made Linux look faster
@OldDogZeroTricks
@OldDogZeroTricks 5 месяцев назад
What smartphone is that?
@alx8439
@alx8439 5 месяцев назад
Another important measurement that was missed is how much RAM was occupied by system processes
@someshkarmakar47
@someshkarmakar47 Месяц назад
exactly..
@npgoalkeeper
@npgoalkeeper 5 месяцев назад
Fedora battery life should improve even more next release when they transition from PPD to tuneD, and it might be getting x86 micro architecture levels (x64 v1/v2/v3) later down the line, similar to SuSE, for slightly better performance
@mahdinhabib9699
@mahdinhabib9699 5 месяцев назад
Can you compare between CutefishOS vs Deepin ?
@mattjax16
@mattjax16 4 месяца назад
In the battery test looks like fedora was on lower volume than the others maybe helped with battery
@noober09
@noober09 5 месяцев назад
link to USB C pen drive please?
@pabloqp7929
@pabloqp7929 5 месяцев назад
I other criteria than speed would make for a far more genuine benchmark
@chorba
@chorba 5 месяцев назад
Surprising results for Ubuntu overall, I expected it to go last of the Linux distros
@ZerosTest
@ZerosTest 2 месяца назад
Why Windows has OpenGL and DirectX but Linus had only OpenGL? Aren't supposed to be there a vulkan too? ( Which performance better on linux that OpenGL )
@isoEH
@isoEH 5 месяцев назад
Appreciated!
@ruelsmith
@ruelsmith 5 месяцев назад
Interesting. I have Windows 11 and Fedora 39 in a dual boot setup, and Fedora certainly seems a bit snappier. I know that something is causing my 500 Mb internet to slow to a crawl in Windows 11, that didn't happen in Windows 10, and I have yet to pin it down (lots of users got a similar experience). Fedora has no such issue. As a matter of fact, somehow it gets a blistering 630 Mb/sec.
@no-prophet
@no-prophet 5 месяцев назад
I use Arch (btw) and I get like 5 Tb/sec when it's cold outside, every other Friday I get even 10 Tb/sec, but only if my dog had already eaten. I've heard that a lot of other users get the similar experience even if they don't have dogs. Weird, isn't it?
@ruelsmith
@ruelsmith 5 месяцев назад
@no-prophet I tried Arch (btw), and it gave my dog diarrhea, and he caught a case of Parvo, too, so I deleted that unholy satanic rectal exam distro and installed a more pleasant experience. Now my dog is feeling much better and actually behaves well. Wierd, huh?
@NotSeggsySage
@NotSeggsySage 5 месяцев назад
I think you mean Mbps/MBps or something. ( If this was a joke i didn't get it, don't blame me).
@ruelsmith
@ruelsmith 5 месяцев назад
@@NotSeggsySage correct. Sorry. Had multiple things going at a time. Brain fart...
@NickOfTime99
@NickOfTime99 5 месяцев назад
One test that would be interesting to see but would take a lot of time: power off laptop, wait one week, turn it back on and see how long it takes to install updates from the OS.
@iijj22gg
@iijj22gg 5 месяцев назад
Windows might not have any updates at all (but Windows updates are annoying anyway), Ubuntu might have a few things, idk about Fedora. Arch would update like half the system lol.
@kruknimbalt2787
@kruknimbalt2787 5 месяцев назад
@@iijj22gg Well, it's Arch's feature, so this comparison may be not a good idea to do
@Dobaspl
@Dobaspl 5 месяцев назад
Copying in windows and linux is not the same. In Linux, the fact that the system shows copying completed does not mean that the process is finished. Even in the case of SSD, Linux still needs a few seconds in the background to save the cache. So unless you changed your configuration before the test, this one is not reliable.
@nipunamarasekara607
@nipunamarasekara607 5 месяцев назад
I had the same experience. When windows says copying the file is done, it's done and device can be removed right away. But in linux systems it's still running in background for some reason. Until it properly finished user cannot safely eject the device.
@Dobaspl
@Dobaspl 5 месяцев назад
@@nipunamarasekara607 It's even worse when we talk about moving files. The system erases files from the source before providing a write to the target. If the connection is interrupted during this time, the files are lost (excluding recovery tools from the source). And if you turn off the cache, copying takes forever. But the cache is not the problem, Windows also uses it, the problem is that the GUI does not know that the copying is still in progress, but it should be.
@altosack
@altosack 5 месяцев назад
@@dreaper5813- I last used Windows in 2000 before I quit that job (they were still using NT, not 2000). Now, if a company makes it a requirement to use Windows, (barely metaphorical!) red flags and blaring sirens keep me on the right path.
@Dobaspl
@Dobaspl 5 месяцев назад
@@dreaper5813 Which doesn't change the facts. The comparison of the copying process presented in the video makes absolutely no sense. In typical home use, Linux does not copy files any faster or better than Windows.
@ParasAryan
@ParasAryan 2 месяца назад
@dreaper5813 skill issue
@Harb000
@Harb000 5 месяцев назад
I thought fedora 39 was on kernel 6.7?
@MT-nn2ii
@MT-nn2ii 4 месяца назад
I also noticed this when I wanted to choose my Linux distribution to replace Windows. I found the Fedora distribution particularly heavy and slow, I'm not sure why. So, "finally", i switched to Debian 12 + Gnome. It's not too bad for the moment.
@onlyspaceghost
@onlyspaceghost 2 месяца назад
would be great to run the arch test in gnome so we can rule out slight performance differences between kde and gnome
@bhargavjitbhuyan9394
@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 5 месяцев назад
I have horrible battery life and personal hotspot network speed slowing down issues. Please help. (I use a laptop).
@Maxume
@Maxume 5 месяцев назад
If you're using Linux, install and run TLP. There's a GUI version that's a little easier to understand than the command line version. Depending on how much of a performance hit you are willing to take, you can extend the battery life dramatically. I can double my laptop's battery life without a very noticeable performance hit but if need be, that time can be tripled or even quadrupled, with varying levels of performance impact.
@bhargavjitbhuyan9394
@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 5 месяцев назад
​@@Maxume it causes very serious performance loss. Just too many dropped frames in a 1080p60 yt video. I am using auto cpufreq. I will try tlp again.
@dark_sym
@dark_sym 5 месяцев назад
Same problem with archlinux, than i switched to hyprland compositor
@Maxume
@Maxume 5 месяцев назад
@@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 I don't know what to tell you. You are never going to have better battery life if you aren't willing to sacrifice some performance. So you'll have to decide in the end what's more important but compromises will have to be made. I tried auto cpufreq and while it certainly didn't appear to affect performance, it didn't improve battery life by even 15minutes either.
@bhargavjitbhuyan9394
@bhargavjitbhuyan9394 5 месяцев назад
@@Maxume I am talking about absolute performance dips. My laptop can easily play 4k60 yt videos in windows with the battery saver turned on. And on linux (my distro is endeavourOS, this issue doesn't occur in ubuntu but I don't like the ubuntu desktop environment called gnome and I want a dual boot system and also, I don't like snaps. I prefer kde) the videos have too many dropped frames. Why??
@JohnJames-xj7df
@JohnJames-xj7df Месяц назад
great video
@savirien4266
@savirien4266 5 месяцев назад
file systems?
@Smokeros
@Smokeros 5 месяцев назад
so most tests in margin of error?
@olnnn
@olnnn 5 месяцев назад
Graphics performance is going to be somewhat dependent on whether it's amd, intel or nvidia, and what application it is.
@kyloc5817
@kyloc5817 5 месяцев назад
Boot speed test with systemd distros, nice
@alternatuber6698
@alternatuber6698 5 месяцев назад
So which beat?
@vasiliynkudryavtsev
@vasiliynkudryavtsev 5 месяцев назад
I wonder what the results will be on FreeBSD...
@IngrownMink4
@IngrownMink4 5 месяцев назад
Me too.
@Xxgamer1783xX
@Xxgamer1783xX 5 месяцев назад
I did a fresh install of EndeavourOS a few days ago on a 25GB partition (I chose GNOME over KDE, changed nothing else regarding packages) and mounted /home from another partition. Installed nothing since then, did one update of packages and my root partition right now sits at ~7,3 of 25 GB. So you can get away with way less space then the mentioned 45GB (converted from the free space in GiB).
@vidar100
@vidar100 5 месяцев назад
@TechHut Hey brother, remember me? your oldest fan!. How's University going?
@SloppyPuppy
@SloppyPuppy 5 месяцев назад
Love the video, it's great that your making linux related content, and in a simple format educational to less knowledgeable people, however I feel like you are missing the point with some of these, linux being just the kernel means that its so modular with what you can attach to it or remove from it as the whole OS, for example linux + gnu base which is common is running on all these distributions I believe, however not all use systemd, that can affect performance, another thing to note is that the file transfer test is mostly influenced by the file system used, endevour os by default uses btrfs, even though ext4 has faster transfer rates, endevour won out here, I don't know how you configured each. In conclusion I'd recommend talking about the specific parts of each system that might influence it, because linux in reality is like lego, it's programmer's/tinker's minecraft 2, you can create whatever you imagine, and you can hack it to do whatever you imagine. The video is newb friendly but I like to go into shallow detail just so the person listening has something to grip on to learn further.
@Lojcs0
@Lojcs0 5 месяцев назад
You should try the graphics test with unigine dx11 running under wine. That was significantly faster than native opengl when I tried it (~10%)
@benjamintollison
@benjamintollison 4 месяца назад
I have to use Linux to run tensorflow/pytorch because windows cannot find gpu's properly
@512Bytes
@512Bytes 4 месяца назад
I was going to say at the beginning of the video that the title must be changed, as EndevourOS is not Arch, and later on, it got confirmed in the tests.
@stuartedwards6996
@stuartedwards6996 5 месяцев назад
Any particular reason Windows 11 was not using the latest build? If you download the ISO from Microsoft it should be 23H2 (22631.3155)? If you are going to do tests like this you must try to be as fair as possible. You should also ensure that Core Isolation is disabled as Linux does not have a comarative feature as far as I'm aware and it does affect performance on Windows. I'm not a fan of Windows 11 (I'm still on 10) as I think is very meh.
@ritesh_joshi
@ritesh_joshi 5 месяцев назад
Finally, the wait is over
@matthiasbendewald1803
@matthiasbendewald1803 5 месяцев назад
Great comparison, I love those videos, thank you! Also quite subjective, only some praising of Linux in there. What is missing is a good summary. All the numbers were quite over the place, my brain starts melting to compile this all to one coherent picture. I love the phoronix guys, they always put a geometric mean graph/table at the end, which will take all results and compile one mathematically fair summary out of it. Also gaming is very complex. There is so much going on, every game will behave different on the systems, so using one benchmark is not enough to make any conclusion that linux lags behind. I think that it still does, but not as clear as it seemed in this benchmark.
@MitternachtAngel
@MitternachtAngel 5 месяцев назад
Pretty interesting video. I would like to see a comparation with Windows X-Lite (It´s a costume lite version of Windows)
@MrFrog222
@MrFrog222 5 месяцев назад
Many of the tests like storage, battery and general performance can't really be measured on Endeavour OS to then say that its that way on Arch too because Arch is much less bloated.
@knipsi22
@knipsi22 5 месяцев назад
Nice but it's difficult to compare Linux Distros. Different desktop environments come with different amounts of bloat, packaging formats are different and so on. And I would argue most distros don't have a "default" configuration. You are free to chose your DE, and often Distro versions with more up to date packages and Kernels. On every Distro you can install Flatpak or Snap or native.
@TheAltair033
@TheAltair033 5 месяцев назад
why the bloated arch? isn't the minimalism of arch one its selling points?
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