Windows Laptops will never be the Same

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Performance of Windows laptops has always come down to an Intel vs AMD battle but now Qualcomm is entering the Windows PC battle with their new Snapdragon X Elite and X Plus processors. And if their claims about battery life and overall performance are even half right, this could change the laptop market forever.
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2:57 - Performance vs Apple, Intel & AMD
5:15 - The Battery Life Question
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@josephoduor2358 29 дней назад

Just as I was with Apple before they released actual machines to reviewers, I won't believe it until I see an actual machine with this chip being reviewed.

@abb0tt 29 дней назад

I have no doubt the chip spec and device integration will come to fruition thanks to Apple Silicon hitting the market. The critical hurdle will be an integrators platform stack being able to compete the performance of Apple's stack (Silicon + macOS).

@SilverJoystix 29 дней назад

I agree

@SilverJoystix 29 дней назад

@@abb0ttThe critical hurdle is also seeing it come to market

@ashwinnarasimhan2729 29 дней назад

@@abb0tt Microsoft has been shipping ARM based Surface hardware for years now so I think at least anything first party like Office, Visual Studio, etc can run pretty well at this point and I'd imagine Qualcomm can easily get buy in at least from major apps like Chrome or Adobe Creative Cloud. The jury's going to be out on third party apps that Qualcomm or Microsoft haven't worked as closely with.

@abb0tt 29 дней назад

@@SilverJoystix that's literally what I addressed. These manufacturers no longer have a choice to coast, otherwise they'll drive their business into the ground as their market share plummets.

@georgioszampoukis1966 29 дней назад

The chips are very good, but the bottleneck is and will continue to be the OS. If Microsoft takes Windows on Arm seriously, the entire desktop and laptop scene is going to change.

@RobertDunn310 29 дней назад

How is the OS the bottleneck? Windows 11 (even on my x64 AMD laptop from 2020) is pretty stable and battery life is great (even better than when my laptop came with Windows 10. The real issue is lingering app and driver compatibility.

@vectorlua8081 29 дней назад

@@RobertDunn310 Because Windows on ARM and Windows on x86-64 is a lot different.

@RobertDunn310 29 дней назад

@@vectorlua8081 How?

@FrodeBergetonNilsen 29 дней назад

I guess I am the only one hoping for dirt cheap laptops with no fans? Actually, I would really prefer a push for Linux, in a more coordinated and commercial sense. That would enable a much wider adoption of laptops around the world. We don't need insane power for teaching tools, just amazing battery and good enough performance. For windows to fit that, Microsoft will need to windows free of charge. They could just enable some features as default, and allow for these to be changed. That should make everyone happy. But they keep on skipping support for old hardware, like 7th gen intel and 1st gen ryzen. Whe need a new vision.

@vectorlua8081 29 дней назад

@@RobertDunn310 Part of it is, that even though you can run quite a few x86 apps on ARM, a lot of the x86-64 instruction set has to be emulated, making just about every one of these apps slower. Another part is that Microsoft never took Windows on ARM "seriously", what I assume OP means by this, is that critical updates to the platform are all it really receives, i.e. security patches

@Paulie8K 29 дней назад

This is super interesting. I have an Alienware laptop I purchased a few years ago with an i7 and RTX 3080 and I'd love for my next laptop to have the combination of an X Elite for efficiency when I need to use it on the road and the higher end Nvidia GPU for gaming plugged in. I see that happening eventually.

@paulhubers1428 27 дней назад

Depends entirely if they add in PCIe lanes for a dedicated GPU. Everything I have seen only talks about having PCI support for peripherals and the storage. Adding in PCIe support will add some big redesigning

@Sam-gq8cl 26 дней назад

I wouldn’t use it for gaming from what I know so far

@drstrr 29 дней назад

I was about to skip the sponsor ad, and then I didn't

@HardwareCanucks 29 дней назад

Haha. We strive to be unique at least. ;)

@CheapBastard1988 29 дней назад

Had my finger right above the "Skip sponsor" button but had to keep watching.😂

@aninditabasak7694 14 дней назад

@@HardwareCanucksUnlike Linus and their pretty average sponsor.

@aLphawarrior063007 6 дней назад

The ads don't feel like ads. They're informative and entertaining. Goodjob!

@arocomisgamusclademork1603 5 дней назад

@@HardwareCanucksyo, does mean Qualcomm rivals to NVIDIA workflow production?

@chm2 28 дней назад

If there was a snapdragon x plus powered Surface Go that ran as well as an iPad, that would be interesting.

@billkillernic 29 дней назад

Geekbench= you have faster memory bandwidth? You win.

@weaponcomparisoninvideogam5505 28 дней назад

More like you have Apple's chip , you win

@tlh1588 28 дней назад

Applebench?

@dirg3music 28 дней назад

Yeah Geekbench is laughably bad about this, lol

@TamasKiss-yk4st 25 дней назад

Well, if you have faster storage you also win in loading speed test.. so don't under estimate the transfer speed.. no reason to calculate 20GB of data in a blink if you need 0,6 sec to send that to the destination.. this is the same like HDD and SSD, when you reach a comfortable spot with capacity, you don't care if it's smaller like the HDD on the same price, you still buy the SSD, just because it's faster, and you need to wait less.. this is the same here too, the travel time of the data also counts.. faster memory = faster response (and when the speed difference is 1-2 frames you will start to notice, like an input lag, but the already calculated data arrived there too late, it's just happend a few frames ago..)

@billkillernic 25 дней назад

@@TamasKiss-yk4st I am not sure where you were going with this, my point was that you can get faster ram in x86 systems but usually when shills compare arm chips (eg Like the M# ones ) they do that by using slower memory on the x86 system , on top of that in every day (and in most)ba faster CPU has way more impact than faster ram

@liberteus 29 дней назад

There is no "gaming question", I want battery life out of a laptop, and a good keyboard/screen.

@mechanicalmonk2020 29 дней назад

The lack of imagination on your part is irrelevant to the broader discussion

@lolol50735 29 дней назад

gaming is the fist thing i look up for a laptop, battery and keyboard are irelevant

@Djuntas 29 дней назад

@@lolol50735 Desktop my man...Desktop. Not just performance but bigger screen, better ergonomics and all that. I hate using a laptop all caveman bent over.

@josephle2381 29 дней назад

Millions consider video games when it comes to buying a laptop but you go and be different🙄

@jonathanto99 29 дней назад

@@lolol50735 just build a PC at that point, with gaming laptops you're paying more for less performance

@BlackEn 29 дней назад

That ad is gold

@greenmonkey.8403 29 дней назад

*Cold 😂

@jesulobajohn8468 29 дней назад

Ikr, first time I didn't skip it

@sundiegoguy9097 28 дней назад

I went back to watch it again lol@@jesulobajohn8468

@Omega-EP 28 дней назад

They had it in previous videos too. It's phenomenal.

@Z3rgatul 28 дней назад

Arctic freezer are indeed good coolers Having second PC with them

@Firing0 29 дней назад

i think arm is in a good state in linux. Raspberry has a good app repository

@yensteel 29 дней назад

Totally. The full version of Ubuntu is available for the Pi, so the last effort is the drivers. It's something to pay attention to.

@sklynexd 29 дней назад

Windows is still better.

@morbidsoy 28 дней назад

Only people who have nothing going on with thier lives uses linux.

@Omega-EP 28 дней назад

@@sklynexdI don't know...

@cloudboogie 28 дней назад

@@sklynexd you do you

@alexisaubry3801 25 дней назад

Always interesting and balanced. Great job guys, thanks.

@tony_two 28 дней назад

Great video! This seems very interesting.

@sighheinrich 29 дней назад

Thank you for the video.

@julliansibi 29 дней назад

Windows on ARM continues to be a concern for me, and most Windows apps still need x86. If Qualcomm implemented something similar to what Apple did and Microsoft cares about Windows on ARM more, then maybe there’s a chance

@MadsonOnTheWeb 29 дней назад

Apple has a more closed approach and they can select the apps they want to fully support or left to the emulation layer to handle by itself. Isn't the same on windows. In fact it is the opposite from that.

@ashwinnarasimhan2729 29 дней назад

Microsoft already has a pretty effective emulation layer for Windows on ARM, more complex stuff like SQL Server doesn't run well on Windows on ARM but I'd imagine Microsoft will now be quicker to address that

@jakoick1298 29 дней назад

@@christopherlindloff8331Microsoft also has trillions, they can at least create a new division for ARM, it's baffling that they won't

@Dave102693 29 дней назад

@@jakoick1298or have intel give some info for x86 instruction sets for their ARM chips

@yensteel 29 дней назад

Their strategy for Rosetta AND universal binaries was genius.

@watercannonscollaboration2281 29 дней назад

Apple can get away with switching architectures because it’s so locked down on software. Windows is a far more difficult story for this, and I am as skeptical as excited to see if Microsoft and Qualcomm commits to this bit

@battish123 29 дней назад

if they want to compete with m chips this was the only move, now what is left to see is if programs will based off of arm architecture so at least certain programs can take advantage without the emulation layer.

@chadbizeau5997 28 дней назад

@@battish123personally I think going arm is a waste with risc V on its way. But They have a point too. A lot of government organizations and corporations and companies have used and continue to use older software. Heck, I'm helping with getting the installation of a new pharmaceutical app for one of our hospitals and they only just started supporting SQL 19 and Windows server 19. They wanted us to install on 16. And this is a major piece of pharmaceutical hardware and software. Things in the Enterprise World don't necessarily move very fast, so that is why it will always be difficult to change architectures in a Microsoft environment or even a Linux environment in some ways.

@badaoe3stratsonly130 28 дней назад

I think that the spread of AI will help with Emulation. I'm sure we'll still see some weird bugs. But i've got a feeling that the emulation will work well enough for most programs to be usable.

@battish123 28 дней назад

@@chadbizeau5997 you're right, i don't see the corporate world moving towards arm, they like to use easy to use programs without too much processing and heck older version of windows as well and there are no updates on linux that if it even is supported. However, i do see an average university student like me switching windows on arm. Everyday users who just want to browse the web and use office apps along with light gaming with bulletproof battery life. That's where the market for these chips are. As more apps for content creators start supporting this architecture, there might just be a legitimate competitor to apple in the market.

@battish123 28 дней назад

@@badaoe3stratsonly130 valid point for sure!

@rogerhuston8287 27 дней назад

I believe Elite and X Plus are physically the same chip, it's just X Plus are the rejected Elite chips (binning)

@liamcollinson5695 26 дней назад

Seems like a good stepping stone towards a valve deckard type standalone pc VR headset i have heard rumors that the snapdragon x elite could work with dGPUs so maybe standalone pc VR is not as far away as I hoped

@MadsonOnTheWeb 29 дней назад

The problem about ARM chips is in the generic stuff. I'll see if it is good enough when a bunch of generic apps are open at the same time. It is easy to do that in a more closed system like mac os or android. But windows is just a lot more open to generic stuff.

@SkysTrains 29 дней назад

i just hope theyre semi affordable, and have support for ubuntu

@gbitencourt 26 дней назад

Thanks for clarifying the non-x86 nature at the start. Saved me some time.

@RobertDunn310 29 дней назад

I'm excited about these laptops, but I will wait and see how they pan out in terms of reviews, updates and performance. The thing is that mobile CPUs from Intel and AMD are also getting really good and delivering decent battery life as well while being compatible with everything. I guess only those who really really need long-lasting battery and 5G on the go will be drawn to this product but if battery life is not that big of a concern for you, then it's a tougher sell.

@LiVeWiRez 29 дней назад

👍🏽Nice preview on a reference unit. Is the storage removable/upgradeable 👀👀👀 ?

@lifestyle46 23 дня назад

That's just the demo unit. Laptop Manufactures will decide to do that or not, Qualcomm is making only chips not laptops there are demo purposes

@mateowoetam 29 дней назад

I think Linux is way ahead in ARM than Windows, considering Raspberry Pi & Android devices.

@Jimsimi 3 дня назад

Do you know if dual booting is a thing with ARM based systems? I've found it a great solution for my x86 laptops, Linux for general use, boot into Windows when I need efficient proprietary application support.

@mateowoetam 3 дня назад

@@Jimsimi I don't see why not, this depends on the bootloader/ GRUB setup, and we already have Asahi Linux for Apple Silicon Macs so yeah it is a thing.

@Jacob-hl6sn 29 дней назад

Supports lossless audio, what doesn't support lossless audio? I am confused.

@IracianOnzangtino 29 дней назад

yeah

@Workaholic42 29 дней назад

aptX lossless is indeed a Qualcomm exclusive. It is supposed to deliver full CD quality via Bluetooth. Other Bluetooth codecs compress heavily (and often audibly), e.g. AAC, SBC,…

@HardwareCanucks 29 дней назад

AptX lossless isn't supported by any Windows or Apple device right now.

@Jacob-hl6sn 29 дней назад

@@Workaholic42 oh its wireless stuff ok, never met a serious audio person who uses wireless stuff

@TheTastefulThickness 29 дней назад

@@Workaholic42 Darko had a video about this. You need perfect circumstances and anything other than that will drop you down immediately to lower resolutions. Its not the silver bullet it sounds like.

@Majber 23 дня назад

I love hearing your English. It's very easy to understand.

@lanceislateagain 29 дней назад

Why compare it to discreet graphics, tho? How does it compare against the newer APUs from Intel and AMD?

@kingtuckgesus8879 29 дней назад

People commonly call an APU or integrated graphics discreet graphics even though it's not correct and I'm sure they'll be on par because if you look at the performance you get from Galaxy s24 ultra. For instance, you could run fortnite on that phone at like 30 frames per second and that's a Qualcomm chip

@lanceislateagain 29 дней назад

@kingtuckgesus8879, he did follow it up with "from Nvidia or AMD" so he was clearly talking about separate GPUs (cause Nvidia don't make APUs). That's still an odd comparison to make. As for Fortnite running on an S24, bear in mind that that's a mobile-specific version, with probably a lot of sacrifices and underlying changes to make it run. I'm interested in say, how well BG3 or heck, GTA V would run on this, compared to said APUs from Intel and AMD.

@kingtuckgesus8879 29 дней назад

@@lanceislateagain if he did compared to dedicated gpus and that would be wild. Because the performance can't compete. I don't give a s*** how many tops it has but I would also like to see some like for like comparisons. I would like to see something ran on it. That's not emulated and for now all we can do is debate and wonder

@andyH_England 28 дней назад

The X Elite has no chance against the best dGPUs. It would not be very comfortable for Qualcomm to compare.

@yamirizuki 22 дня назад

@@lanceislateagain actually, there is demo of BG3 and Control on this laptop and they run surprisingly well

@matthewsykes2646 29 дней назад

I have to admit that I would love to see some X Elite laptop design with a dedicated Nvidia gpu, not for gaming but for rendering and 3D work, since every piece of software i use is optimized for Cuda. I'm interested to see how emulation will work in this specific applications and if Qualcomm can really be a relevant player in the Windows ecosystem, considering that Zen 5 from AMD is on the horizon and Lunar Lake from Intel will follow shortly after (theoretically). The real advantage Qualcomm could bring to everyday use over Intel and Amd is a more seamless integration between laptops and smartphones powered by Snapdragon SoCs, but we need to wait and see, Windows (and Linux) on ARM could really become something interesting in the next few years.

@HardwareCanucks 29 дней назад

Just a quick correction. Lunar Lake laptops will be available to buy WAY before Zen 5 laptops.

@matthewsykes2646 29 дней назад

@@HardwareCanucks are you sure? I think Amd mentioned second half of 2024 for Strix Point, it should be around the same time period of Lunar Lake, in any case i don't think Lunar Lake laptops will be out "WAY before" Zen 5. But if i'm wrong, well, i'm going to be happly wrong xD

@jakoick1298 29 дней назад

@@matthewsykes2646 I thought Strix point is zen4+ and not zen5

@matthewsykes2646 29 дней назад

@@jakoick1298 nope, it will have Zen 5 cpu but RDNA 3+ for GPU

@Angel-HC 29 дней назад

I'm very excited for this change. My last Windows laptop was a 2021 LG Gram 16 with an i7 1165G7 and while decent for my workloads, always felt a bit underwhelming in some ways. I really think Intel are not going to be the future for mobile computing with how awful their chip power efficiency has been. Could also be Windows-related inefficiency, but having my fan ramp up when I'm just sitting on the desktop doing...nothing, got old or just having a couple tabs open in my browser and seeing my CPU temp jump to 80 degrees is kind of ridiculous. I'm on Mac now for my portable needs, but Windows remains my preferred desktop platform. Maybe Mac is just way ahead of the game in efficiency, but if Windows platforms using Arm start to work towards that, I have a good feeling for the future of computers.

@renelackner3081 28 дней назад

Friendly reminder to be avare of the zoom in function when using generative fill! (4:22 on the right side) But great take on the topic!

@Skylancer727 28 дней назад

I struggle to believe Qualcom's claims because they've always been behind Apple in the mobile side, why would I believe they could beat them on the larger scale then? Plus it's hard to believe that the programs are as well optimized for ARM when they were primarily made for x86.

@roundduckkira 17 дней назад

the thing is Qualcomm bought a company called Nuvia which consists of many of the same engineers of Apple Silicon, esp arches in the lead up to M1 on mobile or even M1? Either way, they know how to make a great ARM cpu so I hope it is good. But yeah while there is a chance, yeah the history of Qualcomm makes me think otherwise.

@-Blue-_ 13 дней назад

huh go and see the benchmark of 8 Gen 3 against A17 Pro in multi core and GPU performance and in both 8 Gen 3 is powerful than A17 Pro

@arpadjszabo 21 день назад

Cool watch man!

@1plus68hehe 23 дня назад

I wonder if windows on arm applications will be compatible with non-arm and vice versa. That's honestly probably going to be the biggest hurdle in the ARM transition for windows

@JohnEllisIII 24 дня назад

Should be interesting if professional software will start to follow this trend to ARM. I work 90% of my time in autodesk Revit and it’s entirely windows dependent. If Microsoft can actually make this happen that would be incredible.

@AD34534 23 дня назад

What I love about ARM is the inclusion of accelerators on their SOCs. For example that ISP which makes your webcam go from borderline unusable to smartphone quality. x86 chips have lacked these features since they only focus on core performance and nothing else. Hopefully Qualcomm doesn't lock their bootloader because I'd love to run Linux on it.

@lolol50735 29 дней назад

doesnt mater how fast it is when it cant run half the staff you want.

@IracianOnzangtino 29 дней назад

stuff not staff

@maxweinbach3996 29 дней назад

@@IracianOnzangtinoor maybe it is “staff”

@lehaepta 29 дней назад

@@IracianOnzangtino But what if he runs a plantation and uses legacy x86 software from 19th century? Think of it before correcting.

@IracianOnzangtino 29 дней назад

@@lehaepta geez

@IracianOnzangtino 29 дней назад

@@maxweinbach3996 over reactive

@CatlessPrius 27 дней назад

It would be nice to see a desktop version of this that's still modular. Having a lightweight PC that you can bring with you anywhere would be sick.

@BenyaminLorit 29 дней назад

I've been excited for this for a long time but at the same time, I really don't know if I want it considering how much of an issue backward compatibility would pose. There are decades worth of x86 applications that'll simply never run on this platform and I'm not sure I'm ready for that.

@HardwareCanucks 29 дней назад

Well if Qualcomm does what Intel did with ARC (terrible back-library support but gradually increasing) there's certainly some hope. That being said, there's still a lot of compatibility questions swirling right now.

@haroldz123 3 дня назад

Actual working unit n actual benchmark please. Rumours have it was way below expectations

@mrbobgamingmemes9558 28 дней назад

I wonder how bad app and games compatibility would look like here, i just hope it is not a disaster just like older arm based Microsoft surface laptop

@user-ct8zg4nb3g 28 дней назад

My father is eighty years old. He is an elderly man and has a medical crutch. Is it possible for my father to use a modern smart phone? Are there any problems or drawbacks? Can you answer?!

@forthphoto 17 дней назад

Can you please make video on Linux support on one of those laptops? One of the main ones.

@asnifuashifj91274 29 дней назад

Two things I would expect from SDX 1) comparable performance with Apple-M chips and 2) good battery life that would last as long as Macbook Pro does. With Apple closed ecosystem I am really looking forward to dual boot aarch64 (Windows and Linux) as part of my daily driver for both work and play.

@andyH_England 28 дней назад

I am not sure that Qualcomm will allow Linux. It doesn't look like it at launch. I suspect MS investing billions in ARM has bought them the right to tell Qualcomm not to allow Linux. So you may be disappointed.

@jinn-gaming2417 29 дней назад

wasn't that going to create same problem like mac? every software need to update to adapt with the change.

@dnvyl 29 дней назад

Yes, it would, but if ARM keeps being more efficient and faster, it will drive the market to develop for ARM rather than x86. So, the problem would solve itself

@TalesOfWar 29 дней назад

This is why Apple spent the last decade or longer moving everything and by extension, developers away from architecture specific code. It's mostly all abstracted away these days with modern languages and libraries like Swift, and they've been very good at translating one to the other for years given they've done it a few times already. Their last real big push to get to where we are now was to deprecate 32bit, which allowed a far cleaner, easier and more efficient transition. X64 translates MUCH better to ARM64. Apple did a lot of work to make the underlying architecture of no real concern to anybody not working with stuff close to the "metal".

@racerex340 29 дней назад

@@dnvyl Except that is only really true for the consumer market. Corporations have invested enormous sums into their existing applications, all of which are x86 based and would mean that a shift away is many many years away. The problem won't "solve itself" given the absolutely ginormous ecosystem of Windows & Linux apps that exist in the enterprise, many of which have been developed going back 40 years at this point. I don't think it stops ARM or even slows it down, but it prevents Microsoft as well as tons of other hundred plus billion dollar software companies from being able to no longer support x86, these companies will develop where the dollars are, and until there is enough revenue opportunity in the form of enterprises that are ready for ARM native versions of these applications, they can't really justify making the change. That said, smaller software shops, startups, that's where Enterprise on ARM will initially grow until enough groundswell has been created where the larger companies are officially losing revenue/opportunity by not also having an ARM option, but again I'm betting we're 10+ years out from there in the Enterprise, when Oracle begins releasing the majority of their enterprise platform apps in ARM alongside x86, that's when you know it's finally happening.

@102728 29 дней назад

Depends on adoption. Plus an x86 and an arm branch for software don't *need* to be synchronised. If anything, testing features on a smaller release on arm would be beneficial as a public beta instead of directly launching it to x86 right away. No clue if that actually will end up happening, but if so, arm would be on the cutting edge if anything. Companies already launch products to a limited customer base geographically, like for example intel arc laptops that were only actually available in korea and japan (iirc?) on their supposed launch date, or within the company I work at, launching new features only for australia first. Then there's software compatibility, where software that isn't directly ported from x86 to arm, could still use a translation layer to at least have access even if some performance is lost. Again, with adoption comes support so over time this would solve itself. Either way it boils down to how these chips will actually perform. If independent reviews find them to be as competitive as qualcomm claims, companies will find the money to throw at any hurdles.

@moist_ointment 28 дней назад

Did I miss the ST GB6 test? I understand having a limited test suite, but only showing MT results and not ST results is very sus

@shalomrutere2649 22 дня назад

Improvements to Windows for arm and app support will make Windows laptops even more wonderful but it'll also strengthen Macs as Windows on parallels will work even better

@neorskate 21 день назад

Will these platforms ever support expansion cards? And probably a desktop version with a board containing everything and expansion ports?

@HardwareCanucks 20 дней назад

Not that we know of.

@BryantJoy 29 дней назад

which custom mech keyboard is that and the keycaps?

@jaiconruedas 23 дня назад

I hope the numbers live the hype. I need to see more of the video testing the actual and real-life performance of this chip. Yes, Im excited for this new player in pc world.

@lifestyle46 23 дня назад

Talk about MediaTek and AMD making Laptop and PC Chips ...I am really Interested in that, Now there 4 brands in Pc CPU market. Really looking forward how's the competition going to play out

@aditya.pratama 15 дней назад

I'm curious how engineering software (CAD/CAM/CAE) performance on this SoC. Really interesting when we can draw 3D CAD, Simulate, Render in that thin devices or maybe on tablet. CMIIW

@roysolid2 28 дней назад

I loved your video . But I wished if you asked them if it coming to Desktop and if we can change it every generation

@mastroitek 27 дней назад

2x longer battery with Teams sounds great, opening Teams is basically equivalent to a battery torture test rn

@returningwhisper 28 дней назад

Will probably need a lot of money thrown behind it in the software space to get it rolling, but I would love to see this take off.

@benj4807 29 дней назад

So are you the new owner now of hardware canucks channel?

@ismaelrivera1999 25 дней назад

When we will see the first laptop with this chip?

@Dew4lk 29 дней назад

Fingers crossed that this will be a good launch, its time for arm to become more mainstream with windows laptops

@fleurdewin7958 27 дней назад

If ARM for Windows need higher adoption rate , AVX instruction emulation is a must have. There are increasing number of Windows apps that need them, including games.

@seanvideoediting 28 дней назад

If they can beat aplle in Davinci Resolve and have full performance on battery, I will gladly prefer that!

@themomaw 29 дней назад

Not switching to ARM unless there is a 110% reliable automatic translation layer from x86. Yeah it's great that major companies can be compelled to do new ARM compile targets and optimize for ARM, but there's an entire world of software for x86 where it's either abandoned or too indy to support multiple architectures.

@TalesOfWar 29 дней назад

If it's abandoned and you still use it for important stuff, you should probably find something else to replace it as it WILL stop working at some point, unless you stop updating the rest of your platform.

@samdovakin2977 28 дней назад

I need this in android gaming handheld

@sumansaha295 28 дней назад

Android is shit for gaming. I'd rather get Linux or windows handheld.

@shadowarez1337 27 дней назад

If its from MS will these have the insane Surface Pro pricing models?

@Raderade1-pt3om 20 дней назад

Do u think ARM will eventually replace x86 or both gonna have their place in future?

@Moon-no3ts 14 дней назад

well depends on how they play it you mean in terms of ARM architectures, yes it can and in laptop industries, it might in embedded systems or single boards well ARM is everywhere where but in desktops and server space no because of how the ARM chips are implemented now they are not flexible or upgradable

@soldarknezz 27 дней назад

I really hope these chips are going to deliver. I just want a 2-1 with oled, 120Hz and apple silicon like battery life .....pleeeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaase

@ravipeiris4388 5 дней назад

I purchased my Windows based HP Omen 15 gaming laptop in May 2021. It'll be my last Windows based laptop (unless they can give me 10 hours battery life under heavy load) and will base my next purchase on the ARM based architecture notebook ❤.

@hassb6348 28 дней назад

A laptop with a DGpu that can be disabled for eco mode with this arm chip would be insane. Not sure how they would pull it off but this would be the dream

@esthergennn 29 дней назад

I'm excited to see how these perform under Linux since ARM has been a feasible architecture under Linux for a number of years thanks to development for SBC systems like the Raspberry Pi or Rockchip SOC based SBCs.

@AdamSmith-gs2dv 20 дней назад

Won't be able to, they have forced secure boot (aka locked bootloader) so you can't load custom OSs. Welcome to the hell of rooting/custom ROMs

@esthergennn 20 дней назад

@@AdamSmith-gs2dv I'd like to see your source on this. Given that Snapdragon Elite SOC support has been implemented into the upcoming mainline Linux 6.8 kernel. Previous Windows on ARM Snapdragon chips (8cx and 7cx) series had unlocked bootloaders. Albeit Qualcomm's Linux support has been pretty lackluster.

@zsueitam8470 28 дней назад

I'm very excited for arm processors for windows. I'm waiting for these with buying a new laptop.

@saiphaneeshk.h.5482 23 дня назад

How much improvement can be seen in android studio?

@fruitcake4910 29 дней назад

Please release these with nice OLED screens and HDMI input. Doesn’t even need to capture just display the signal and maybe even be able switch keyboard and mouse. Even better if it can all be done with a single USB-C cable. That way with a small ITX PC, we can get the best of both worlds.

@AceAku 28 дней назад

Is it possible to confirm if these new devices support Egpu's?

@kountheaim 28 дней назад

I know it's out of topic and forgive me for asking what is the name of that cool keyboard behind you, on the desk.

@omarbsalama 26 дней назад

Same question on my mind!

@shuccle6161 25 дней назад

the red color looks so cool

@Raffzyy 8 дней назад

Im convinced that improvement in arm app compatibility will also benefit Mac users because of virtualization of windows in macOS.

@phillipcesar 29 дней назад

The most important thing on a portable is performance per watt. Apple is far ahead only because of this. Lets hope Qualcomm brings us good products.

@ehtasam960 28 дней назад

Its 40% better perf/watt than apple silicon m3.

@IceBlueLugia 28 дней назад

@@ehtasam960At 40W, which is useless

@PineyJustice 28 дней назад

@@IceBlueLugia And it is very close in performance to a 18w 7840u

@ehtasam960 28 дней назад

@@IceBlueLugia 23 watt chip

@IceBlueLugia 28 дней назад

@@PineyJustice Oh ok. That's good then

@adryx_92 29 дней назад

Is your watch a Seiko? If so, which reference?

@QuantumParadox 29 дней назад

i love the work you're putting into this. I'm a proud backer!

@shapelessed 29 дней назад

4:30 I'm not an Apple fanboy, but even though I may sound like one right now, I gotta ask... Why the hell are you comparing an M3 *AIR* which is completely passively cooled to laptops that are cooled actively?

@Oceanborn712 29 дней назад

Because it gives benefitial results for their graphs. Those graphs always are cherry-picked bullshit. Qualcomm isn't any different there.

29 дней назад

"...that we have in hand right now". They had a limited timeframe and used what they had.

@SilencioTortilla 29 дней назад

@@Oceanborn712 Yeah every manufacturer does cherry-picking, including Apple ofc

@aebisdecunter 29 дней назад

Go ahead, find a completely passively cooled laptop with the top of the line x86-64 chip. There aren't any. The i9 macbook overheating fiasco put a veto on such form factor for hungry chips. 0 RPM mode is nice to have as an option, but even Mn arm chips suffer from thermal throttling without active cooling at intense tasks. Why would I not want a fan in the laptop? That'd take away performance and raise the keyboard temperature. Macbook air is about ok performance at low TDP, the "heatsink" on it is worse than cooling solutions of flagship and midrange phones (and not even gaming phones with active cooling)

@99mage99 29 дней назад

Probably because they weren't given a passively cooled laptop to test, so they just have to do the best with what they have. It'd be nice to see a 1:1 comparison between passively cooled qualcomm and M1 chips, but reviewers don't generally get to pick when the products will be ready to be reviewed, so take that up with the manufacturer. I expect follow up videos when the devices become available for them to look at.

@marufbepary100 28 дней назад

I am interested to see how these SoCs do in Linux. Knowing the Linux community, they will put together something that makes their apps work well on ARM.

@piyush.ochani 29 дней назад

When is this launching?

@Werpet7 29 дней назад

Would love to own one. We need to push for ARM or even better Risc 5

@asdfasdffdcd 18 дней назад

Will x86 programs runs smoothly with translation layer?

@user-su4gg2vw5u 11 дней назад

Which AI Based Laptop is going to be released with Snapdragon X Elite Chipset? I heard Lenovo is releasing AI Laptop with Snapdragon X Elite Chipset which is also compatible with Windows 12 ?

@HardwareCanucks 11 дней назад

Every laptop is an AI laptop. Even ones release years ago.

@MG-zo6nq 28 дней назад

How much start with the price or estimate

@hughjazz44 29 дней назад

Windows on ARM for 7 years? More like 12 years. The OG Surface used an Nvidia Tegra SoC.

@saricubra2867 28 дней назад

"NVIDIA Tegra SoC" Oh, basically a Nintendo Switch

@crestofhonor2349 28 дней назад

@@saricubra2867 Older than that. It's not the Tegra X1. Nvidia was making a few mobile chips back in the early to mid 2010s and I remember that

@vik1ng313 28 дней назад

@@crestofhonor2349 Isn't NVIDIA, Intel and AMD also working on ARM chips for the mainstream market?

@theoqueiroz 29 дней назад

I've been using/working with computers for 23 years now and every year there's a product launch that will revolutionize the PC market...

@badaoe3stratsonly130 28 дней назад

fair enough, but there sometimes true game changers. Like apples jump from IBM to Intel. Or apples jump from Intel to ARM. Or the Steam decks mass spread leading to Linux gaming going mainstream. Paradigm shifts are rare, but they do still happen.

@huge_balls 28 дней назад

@@badaoe3stratsonly130 Steam Deck is the best thing that happened in gaming in recent years

@user-ct8zg4nb3g 28 дней назад

My father is eighty years old. He is an elderly man and has a medical crutch. Is it possible for my father to use a modern smart phone? Are there any problems or drawbacks? Can you answer??

@fudor3355 23 дня назад

Yes, it is definitely possible. A smart phone is a useful tool for communication.

@paolopandas2103 27 дней назад

I would want this in a Desktop PC as well.

@tuckerhiggins4336 29 дней назад

Im guessing the gaming part of this wont work. But might be promising for thin and light if we expect it to be supported in the future

@yensteel 29 дней назад

Perhaps the android and iOS apps are easy to port or run at least through virtualization (not emulation). I'm not sure how different androids graphics api is from Windows. It's a big problem for pc gaming.

@rthwbyw 29 дней назад

performance comparison, benchmarks, numbers. everything looks promising (sometimes or maybe most of the time its misleading) but can we still trust on these?

@alexandermarcusvaan 29 дней назад

Dying to know what kind of watch you're wearing lol

@madmaxhan 29 дней назад

its a seiko aplinist gmt

@yensteel 28 дней назад

Uh, around $1000 then.

@rigen97 24 дня назад

the pain is waiting for that "population inversion" where desktop ARM chips became more ubiquitous than x86 and all apps were compiled with that architecture as a target before that compatibility problem would always be painful

@CaptainJonathan 29 дней назад

If only I could still run CUDA workloads. These new processors would be awesome. Though even then they wouldn't quite have the power. It would be nice to eventually have a fully mobile solution without having to be tethered to anything to get the full power of the laptop and without major hits to battery life.

@TorchCTI 29 дней назад

If only I could plug in external graphics cards using thunderbolt 4. ARM processors doesn't support it unfortunately.

@knives320 20 дней назад

The idea of competition between products is aways interesting and beneficial for consumers. It maybe early to say but, if this is the start of Qualcomm tapping into the waters on where Intel and AMD dominates then this will be very exciting. I hope we will not be just limited to x86 when it comes to desktop computers. I hope they can also, in the future, compete with Nvidia amd AMD in the GPU market.

@VicharB 29 дней назад

I'll wait till Gen3 at least and see how it progresses on notebook/laptop side along with the Linux compatibility, being the priority for me, and how it will stack against AMD ZenX in time to come. Otherwise, this is looking good, as a first gen for sure.

@spinthma 29 дней назад

Not to forget 8Channel Memory!! I think this Chip was designed as server located chip.

@dtzyYT 29 дней назад

OK now I'm getting interested in buying a new notebook PC.

@NightFoxZero 29 дней назад

Dude I HOPE that they make those red laptops. I'd pick one up for the chassis alone lol

@willmedrano98 25 дней назад

Really looking forward to the new CPUs. As a Linux user, have been jealously waiting for laptop CPUs to catch up to M1.

@DankGank 29 дней назад

We will likely see offerings with discrete gpus

@algo_ritme 29 дней назад

Why not Cinebench it against the M3 Pro or Max, the Core Ultra 9, Ryzen 9 8945HS? Do you afraid from a better result? Bytheway it is impressive.

@BrunodeSouzaLino 29 дней назад

Because Cinebench would have to be emulated to work, as it is a x86 benchmark.

@vik1ng313 28 дней назад

Also, the Ryzen 9 8945HS is just the 7940HS but with an NPU. There's 0 performance difference.

@vinchcarlotan421 28 дней назад

Does Windows even have any type of translation process like Rosetta or something close to it? If not then ARM on Windows will definitely be having a hard time succeeding.

@ehtasam960 28 дней назад

Faster than rosetta 2 and all apps that are on apple native will be also be native on windows.