Not too shabby. I love the car and what you've done so far very interesting how to compare videos around RU-vid especially being hard to find V6 channels. This is super helpful being that I went from a V8 F150 to this 2004 white V6 40th anniversary which is completely different and new to me. But also nice to actually see and hear similar differences that I've discovered with my car I have now set up be, and to find out what I can do more to improve when the time comes. My wife tells me to start a channel for my mustang and or few projects to get me away from explaining it to her in grave detail when shes completely clueless coming from a classic car father lol. I know there's a lot that goes into that kind of work to do that sort of lengthy trial and error and hours of editing. But have piqued the interest and or thoughts about doing something for the V6 era Mustangs because it is extremely hard to find any sort of true yet not boring examples or absolute cheezee and off wish. Just finding time to start somewhere is expensive when having a household of 6 not including pets. So with all that rambling on being said hats off to you sir, hope the good work continues. And note aside has anyone found, to my knowledge any 3.9 emblems? Or any kind, not wish knock offs or autozone peel n stick bs? I cannot fathom why there wasnt one in the first place, but why hasn't someone made one already? Or is it just me?
Yeah the windstar swap involves way more modifying. I did that one first, good improvement over stock. Tried the f-150 manifold and it made a bigger improvement, top end felt the same, but the torque is nuts. And much easier to install but had to chop a hood to close it, because even if i remove the Idle air control valve the manifold is still 3 inches above the hood line. But after porting F-150 manifold and it making the difference it does, sub 6 second 0-60, cant really see myself going back to the Windstar. But i can say our stock manifold is trash.
Very nice man. That's badass. I never considered the f150 intake because I wanted to keep the stock hood. I am interested in porting the heads as well as lower intake, but for the time being it'll say as it is since it's a daily driver.
Yeah there are trade offs windstar manifold, difficult to intstall, limited portability, fits under stock hood. F150 manny easier to install, only modding i did besides hood is PCV hose, and making the tps wire longer. need new hood(drove without hood for 3 days like a honda boy until i could cut it) and you can port the hell out of it. I dont think porting heads will do to much because of the 2 intake ports per cylinder ive seen dynos online of it not doing alot. It already has great airflow. The only thing worth porting is the lower manifold, and upper. What's holding it back is the cam. The stock cam i believe is the same one from the 150hp single port 3.8L they just slaped on higher flow heads. Thats why the most common mods on these are cams.
@@TheVulcan Vulcan if you are after power and looking to keep it cheap, Check out the Thunderbird Supercoupe M90 Eaton swap. Relatively direct swap, by relatively I mean as direct as the f150 manifold.
@@TheVulcan I didn't realize that f150 intake was that much easier. No hood is roadkill style haha, helps with over heating. I might pick up a junkyard lower intake just to mess around with porting. I did a little research and I found the single port cam is slightly better than the split port cam, and the 4.2 f150 cam is better than all of them.
@@feellnfroggy Those have single port heads, ours have split port. Plus ours have returnless fuel systems and those have return systems. It would be perfect for a 94-98 Mustang though.
Thank you I’ve watched this video 100 times already I’m almost done I need to tap holes for the charcoal filter in the HVAC line and I should be good to go!!! Can’t wait good shit man🦾🙏🏾☝🏾
youre putting a ford 3.8 v6 into a miata? I cant imagine choosing this engine over others you could put in the miata or even just boosting the stock engine. I mean the only reason id see that being a good idea is if you have a miata shell and an old 3.8 sitting around
@Chris Cole ya everything's in engine trans diff but I gotta wire it. It all has to be custom so it's been awhile since I'm knee deep in wiring diagrams
I like your RU-vidr name!! It'sNotAn8 !! LOL!! I am indefinitely going to put a different rear end gear in my 3.8 Also a portmatch!! I like the idea you did with the intake also I'm going to do away with the hydraulic power steering and upgrade to and EPS and also I have a sunroof in my car I'm going to do away with the AC to help gain more power and do away with the clutch fan input electric fans in and where I have it automatic transmission I'm going to keep a manual radiator and go with a transmission cooler for the transmission fluid!! And do away with mufflers and put a drone delete cat back on it!! Hopefully we'll get more torque and power out of the little 3.8 V6 They actually have just as much horsepower as the old 1978 Cobra 2 with 302 139HP but it's crazy that the old 1978 cover twos only weighed 2,990lb and these 4th generations mustang weigh over 4,600 lb the old cober 2 had an OEM 0 to 60 around 6.3 seconds with the c4 transmission!!😮 😅😊😂
I have a lot respect for people that design or upgrade stuff like this good job. But it seems like to much work and time effort for 10 or 15 HP more but that's just me good luck on your project and I think you did awesome work thanks for sharing. SWT...
Can the intake be reversed so the input is in the back? Doing a jetboat and don't want things sticking out front, have room over the jet for intake. I am going 3.8 because it is ~150lbs lighter than my iron 5.0 at 220hp.and a plastic intake should save another 20lbs.
Nice video! I want to do this, but my area tests for emissions so I need to keep the EGR, IAC, etc. I have a scoop on mine so I can hide the hole :) I was wondering, how difficult is it to keep the IAC and EGR? Do I need any speciality parts? I can do basic metalwork so fabbing a bracket or simple spacer is not a problem for me.
My car would pass emissions if I didn't remove the cats. The iac is the thing with the big blue hose attached to it. It needs to be relocated, all you need is some kind of thick enough metal you can drill and tap holes in to mount the iac to, and be able to screw in a nipple or hose barb for the inlet and outlet of the iac(take a look at my Windstar update video to see how I changed it). I used 1/8in thick by 2in wide aluminum bar stock. I wish I used 1/4in. The egr I also kept. You need the Windstar's egr bracket to keep it. The bracket is lower so it'll fit under the intake. The egr tube coming from the exhaust will have to be heated cherry red and bent to push it lower to it's new mounting spot. Heads up, it'll break easily.
Do u need a angled throttle body spacer ?? Or is it just for clearance of the hood ?? I just cant seem to find the angled throttle body spacer. Can i do it without the spacer
What parts of the windstar intake did you use? Just the center? Where did you get the upper? Everything I'm finding online looks completely different. Thanks for the video!
Is this a common mod to do on these motors? Common enough that the intakes are worth money? There is a very similar mod that can be done on my BMW motor that makes intakes for 92-96 motors worth $250 bux. Only for me it's so common there's even aftermarket support that makes it a "plug and play"(minus the tune) modification. But I'll def add these to my list of valuable parts I look for when I'm at the junkyard if they are worth the time.
Love the channel love the swap I just started my own youtube channel with my v6 mustang my question is with the windstar intake being plastic do you know of a temperature rated paint that would work on it?
Thanks man, I appreciate it! I'm not sure, I have seen people paint them before but I'm not sure what they used. I would use a primer that's good for plastic and probably an engine enamel paint for the heat resistance.
You mentioned that you recommend getting a tune. Im pretty sure I didn't hear you saying you got a tune after the install. I know you like the extra torque, but you get a tune after the install? Forsure looks way better than other v6 engine on old mustangs.
@@itsnotan8 so im guessing you got the 10 extra horses and paid about $500 for the tune. Plus the hours needed to install the intake. Or was it something different from the tune?
@@vmoya6631 I paid like $20 for the intake at a junk yard, tune revision was free, and I didn't charge myself for labor. Anymore questions? I'm sure it picked up more than 10hp, but the torque it picked up across the rev range and especially on the low end made the difference.
You could have gotten 1 if not two oil catch cans. I noticed that as well and once I put it on the oil catch can on the driver side I noticed a lot of oil was caught within the first two days then the oil accumulation was drastically decreased. I put an oil catch can on the intake box side and there has never been oil there. Neither of the cans have a breather on it but I think the one with the air box needs a catch can with a breather filter on top just a guess gonna but a cheap one see if it performs better. I have used just breather filters they work nothing wrong with it but the oil catch can is better possibly. You can easily delete your egr by going to the hardware store and buying a pipe that fits I think it’s 3/8in not sure maybe a 1/4in and get a cap to block it off and as for where the screws go I ignored them it was on a previous car but if it’s a vacuum it wouldn’t hurt getting a vacuum manifold and diverting it into the crankcase as a main source of vacuum.
Cool. Thanks for your input. Yeah, I've thought about getting an oil catch can before but never did. There are no name, exact copies of Mishimoto catch cans on ebay/amazon for 20-30 bucks. I think those would definitely be worth looking at. I thought about putting breathers on the valve covers instead too, but again just never did haha. I opted to keep the egr because I'd like to keep the 2-3mpg and help keep the cylinder temps down. I have a problem with pinging/detonation in the past.
I like your video and want to that with my 3.8 mustang but my question is putting that manifold on will it let me bypass the intake manifold runner control valve?
You are correct it is the same 3.8 as a fwd windstar with one huge difference, the bell housing are smaller so it is a different block altogether.... Ask me how I know😬
If you can get one the thunderbird sc m 90 supercharger bolts on just as easy only modification it a pulley bracket. As far as I know. And you get way more hp gain.
I don't have any, but they should. They free up 5-10hp. Common misconception is that they gain you power, but they don't. They simply just reduce the parasitic drag the accessories (water pump, alternator, etc) have on your engine.
ok so im finally getting around to doing my swap, if i delete the egr is it as simple as getting a blockoff plate or is their more to it? and for the other questions what did you do to get the crown vic tb to fit? i dont want to start shaving off plastic from the manifold then realize i messed up lol.
A block off plate and something like a threaded cap to plug the exhaust manifold where the EGR tube attaches. The crown Vic throttle body will bolt right up. Just flipped upside down and you'll need a spacer so the linkage will clear. In my case I milled a custom angled spacer to point the throttle body down to clear the hood. The windstar intake will have an iac port protruding above the throttle body, that is what I cut off.
Hey bud, I noticed your throttle body has two cables, but my v6 only has 1 cable. So what's the extra cable for yours? Is it because you have a gt throttle body?
Can you swap a Windstar or f150 manifold onto a 98? Or is there another intake id have to use, hood clearance isn't an issue, I'm planning on getting an aftermarket one anyway
Unfortunately no. The 94-98 3.8s have single port heads. 99-04 are split port. The good news is an Eaton M90 supercharger off of a 89-95 Thunderbird Super Coupe will.
Wesley Young oh and I was also considering to do the one from the f150 instead but I’m trying to choose... are the lowers the same as well or would modifications be needed
@@jasonpooler6811 The lowers are sightly different I believe between the Windstar and Mustang, but you don't need the Windstar's lower. The Windstar upper will bolt right up to the Mustang's lower.
I don't think it's necessary, but I would highly recommend it. I ran mine for a week without a tune revision and it was fine. If you delete the EGR, then 100% you'll need a tune.
@@itsnotan8 You can get away without a tune, even deleting the EGR, this mod is still within EEC parameters. But even a stock unmolested mustang will benefit from a tune.
So those are the only gaskets you used throughout the whole process ? Also were there any vaccum lines u needed to relocate ? Im in canada so i am removing my egr valve as i dont really need it. But i plan on placing the iac valve ontop and changing my hood so it fits
@@user-ue5xb4th5i I did cut out cork gaskets for the throttle body and angled spacer. If you're gonna get an after market hood and use the Windstar iac on top of the manifold, you'll have to use the Windstar throttle body and gasket. The Windstar throttle body has inlet port for the iac. If the hood clears the iac, you definitely won't need the angled spacer, it's just for clearance. Not necessarily relocate, but find a place to plug into the manifold, just the ones I said in the video. The two on the passenger side, one for the HVAC blend doors and charcoal filter in the fender. On the driver's side the brake booster, pcv valve and fuel pressure regulator(the little black box on the fuel rail).
Kinda. They used to make a kit that had everything you needed. Hp gains where there, but I'd say the torque band on the low end and all though out the rev range made it worth it to me.
@@itsnotan8 Wish the kit was still available, I saw on super six motorsports they had some ported upper intake manifolds but it comes as a kit with a cam and I think ported heads , but it's like 3k . It's beyond my mechanical abilities lol . I'm just a bolt on guy , thanks for the video by the way . I shouldn't have left a negative comment without letting you know that I appreciate the information you provided and I respect the work that you put into it . 👌 Hope all is well with your project 🙏
This is jank as all hell. Not worth the time, effort, modification, relocation, and if u look the bottom intake ports on the lower manifold are tiny as balls, u can only get as much flow as they can handle and the engineers clearly put stock intake over ur windstar for many reasons. Thats why they have the degree. Somt redo the wheel
