Does anyone else find it ironic that when a company claims to be resistant to a disaster of some sort, that it ends up being taken out by that exact disaster? The Winecoff "Fire Resistant" burns, Titanic, unsinkable.
Yup. Each twin tower also was said to be built to withstand the impact of a 737. Granted, they were hit by 767’s and technically did withstand the initial impact, but still. Strange.
@@NizRacingNY the design wasn't nearly as stable as the Empire state or even the weirdo John Hancock. But the former got hit twice by military planes. WTC just had a skin of iron and a core of iron. that's all. Not all the way through like the others.
But no one with any actual knowledge ever claimed that the Titanic was unsinkable. That was something some newspaper or magazine came up with; it was never said by Harland & Wolff, the White Star Line, or any other authority.
I stayed there about 9 years ago. It was sort of a boutique type place and nice rooms. The atmosphere, though, was claustrophobic and eerie once you went from the lobby to the room floors. Very narrow hallways. There is a plaque outside in dedication to the victims. I requested the lowest floor but didn’t like the energy in the building. It felt a bit like I was invading somewhere I shouldn’t have been. Wouldn’t do it again.
She didn't die. My father and his first wife were in the hotel, on their honeymoon that night. His wife was killed trying to get down a fire ladder but someone from above fell and caused her and the firefighter to fall to the ground. The firefighter survived.
A single, open stairway will serve as a chimney in a fire, as happened here. Fortunately stairways like this are no longer allowed. There has to be more than one stairway, and each one has to be separate from the interior of the building and closed off with fire doors. This does not mean there will never again be any more fire disasters, but at least they're less likely.
My Grandfather owned two mortuary's in Atlanta at the time. His hearses were called into service to help remove victims, as were his mortuaries to tend to some of them.
tucson arizona had a fire at the pioneer hotel December 20, 1970 that killed 29 people!. it had no sprinklers or fire escape. people were jumping out of the windows. it was the worst disasters in Tucson Arizona and Arizona.
Went to my late Fathers WW2 unit’s reunion the Summer ‘The Towering Inferno’ came out. I wasn’t then, nor am I now; happy abt heights. I hate high bridges w/a passion. I wasn’t pleased to find out we were on the 10th or 11th or so floor, maybe higher. Looked out the window & saw nothing but a concrete Plaza.
Wow, a humane news photograher who wants to catch an image that will give readers a sense of the tragedy! Rather than sensationalize or embarrass someone.
"The fire caused codes to be changed around the county"- Sure. And then.the Pioneer hotel in Arizona suffers a similar fire almost 30 years later where open staircases acted as a chimney. Even today, putting fire codes in place is not a simple unanimous thing.
Also the MGM grand in Las Vegas 1980 same thing no fire sprinklers, no fire alarms in the rooms.the stairwells and elevator shafts acted as chimneys the smoke is what killed almost all of the more than eighty people then. So yeah apparently the fire codes didn’t do anything there.🤔
All the legislation in the world will never cure human error and ignorance. Look around at your next hotel stay, bet you find stairwell doors propped open....
Marit i think you're missing the whole point of this video. because of this tragedy, fire escapes and sprinkler systems exist in every single building now, as per law. you're imposing our modern technology and ideals of safety onto a different era. it's like telling victims of cholera that they should have had our system of plumbing and sewage two centuries ago.
You hear the old saying about change being written in blood. The laws were different at the time so fire escapes and sprinklers etc weren't required, the final irony is the man who built the hotel and his wife were both killed in the fire, the saddest part the Winecoff disaster is there were two other hotel fires before this one in June of 1946, one at the LaSalle Hotel in Chicago that killed 61 people and another at the Canfield Hotel in Dubuque that killed 19
Page Number 687 I suppose your point is they didn't have these things back then? Or it wasn't required I must not have used my whole brain that day l'm usually pretty good with history should've thought about this..
snakes3425 Now l think about it.. I wasn't really thinking that day l just felt terrible for the people inside l usually think it thru.. You know kind of stunned? I heard him saying in the video that there was something in the building to release smoke out but it was closed Very sad.. I thought by this time they had something already to have protection from fire but if it indeed was not installed yet because it wasn't required by law that would explain a lot It's a heartbreaking story :'(
5:15 "The Winecoff hotel was advertised as absolutely fireproof... that was an insurance term that meant that the hotel would not collapse under intense fire. But it did not apply to the contents, or the people inside."
There are very few people willing to sit down with people like you and talk about their beliefs. We know that all you want to do is sit there and laugh about how stupid you think we are. I'd rather believe that there's someone looking after us, that even if we die here we'll end up somewhere beautiful, a place that's permanently safe. I find that belief a whole lot sweeter than the idea of just going out like a candle and suddenly being nothing at all, just dead. Is that so stupid?
I could not sleep in a building that had 162 bodies burned up, sorry. I know these people suffered a horrific death and I could not be there thinking about that. I’ll pray for them and ask God to care for them.
+Bart Simpson Not in the least misleading ... they don't state that it was the deadliest fire or the deadliest hotel or theater fire - it is what it is the deadliest HOTEL fire and the Iroquis is the deadliest theater fire --- how is that misleading?
Is the film produced by the 'Absolutly Fireproof Insurance Company' as the actors seem to me to be trying to market the same type of potential disaster with out there being fire safety features installed. I have worked in Hotels. Seen 9/11 and a few other highrise fires. Trapped on say the 50th floor. How the hell does a person get down when the elevator shaft is a chimney and fire truck ladders can not reach that height. What I notice is there are not even emergency ropes or rope ladders. Nothing as far as I see. The same in our country. A jump from the second floor could break limbs or kill. But from the 10th, 20th, 30th, 40th, 50th or higher on to concrete is more likely to be fatal than survivable (my opinion). The Point is. The actors are promoting Hotels as if the problems have been eradicated or no long exist (my opinion).
@@Oakleaf700 the issue with Joelma tower was the fact that it was made entirely of flammable materials. Grenfell tower was covered by flammable material and would’ve been safe otherwise
"She was just amazed that God allowed her to live (while letting all the other Christians slowly burn to death in a horrible way to die)." Only a psychopathic deity would do that. Or only a very selfish person would assume that their God was there for them that night but WASN'T there for all the people who died horribly. #ignorant
Yes, it stated that nowadays fire doors are built near the stairwells, to seal out the fire from the stairs and allow people to escape thereby. And the stairwells have to be separated from the building by the fire doors, and there must be at least two stairwells. It was a tragedy that not many fire safety codes existed at the time. The only consolation is that because of this fire, many more fire safety codes were enacted.
No building in this world could ever be fireproof.Fire Is extremely powerful and destructive and it doesnt take much for something to go up in flames.This fire is tragic and sad but at the sametime it's amazing how beautiful fire really is.
I freaking hate it when people say "oh god allowed this person to live" so what's that mean anyway? God hated the others, their lives weren't worth saving, or he wanted their souls and hers..not so much. I wish people would really think before they say stupid religious stuff. Then again, if they thought about it, they probably wouldn't be religious anyway. :)
Sounds to me like she prayed to God before she fell. If they had listened to God before hand, He warned each of them, just as He did those who were in the towers during 9/11. Some listened to Him and didn't go. Some heard Him, but went anyway. Some never listen to Him, and they just didn't hear Him. God speaks to us all in our heart/spirit. Not all pay attention.
Can you as a human ever hope to comprehend Divinity you say stupid religious stuff but to many it is apart of their lives though you may not believe don't belittle those who do that shows ignorance and intolerance on your part
If what you say is true, then whay is it that when I ask people to tell me about their god, they're usually too embarrassed to do so? Surely it's because deep down they know it's silly to believe in a god. For example, if you believe in a god, tell me about this god. What evidence exists to prove that he/she/it is real and answers people's requests for assistance?
If you have an imaginary friend, and you go so far as to embellish this magically-invisible friend with a name, with a gender (i.e. genitals), with all kinds of characteristics, and even talk to this friend and imagine that he/her hears you and is responding to you in some magical way....then yes, you're a nut!
To the guy that ask me to prove god is real I say prove he is not real. You can't. You believe he is not real just because you are too weak to have faith. You have nothing to believe in except your self. And one day you will wish you had not tried so hard to prove god is not real and that you had tried harder to find god. God knows you and will call you one day if you are wotrth it. If not then you will burn in hell.
God, Heaven and hell are real sweetie. You have to make your own choice. Receive Jesus as your Lord and Savior and go to Heaven, or don't and suffer throughout eternity in hell. This is all very real. Hopefully you will make the right choice before it's too late.
"God allowed her to live". What a disgusting thing to say. So her mother was more important than all those that died and God decided to let them die. I honestly find the religious to be absolutely disgusting. She lived because she landed on the building next door and she was young and lucky. God didn't pick her over those that died. Imagine saying something like that. Imagine being a family member of a child that died listening to this disgusting woman saying God saved their mother.
I don't ever remember seeing anything about the KKK bothering people because they didn't go to church. Or that anyone was ever arrested for not going to church in the south. Where did you learn that from some atheist website?
She prayed to God before she fell. If they had listened to God before hand, He warned each of them, just as He did those who were in the towers during 9/11. Some listened to Him and didn't go. Some heard Him, but went anyway. Some never listen to Him, and they just didn't hear Him. God speaks to us all in our heart/spirit. Not all pay attention.
