Wing Chun DOES NOT work if you don't OCCUPY CENTER - Wing Chun, Kung Fu Report - Adam Chan 

No, no the they cannot

Bottom 3 knuckles.

I believe there are moves to defend against that

They're both very different styles. I will say Shaolin Kung fu is probably much better at conditioning your body and teaching it to work together as a unit. Wing Chun is good for understanding some kung fu principles fairly quickly and the touch reflex you develop.

@@watamuthaHave you practiced Wing Chun? I agree with what you said. I guess Wing Chun teaches you about some interesting body mechanics and principles but doesn't condition well your body. In my opinion Wing Chun is great at trapping range but has very limited value at other ranges. Would it make sense to study Wing Chun in addition to a more full-contact style like boxing, kickboxing, karate (kyokushin) for the trapping range? Some people argue that it wouldn't work because the principles are totally opposite, but I don't agree with this. What are you thoughts?

@@jean4j_ I havent done WC but I know enough abt their training to know they dont have a lot of conditioning exercises like other styles of kung fu do. If I wanted to be a good fighter, I probably would pair it with judo and kickboxing. Yes their trapping is good but they need to know how to react when grabbed (judo) and how to fight a bit outside trapping range (kickboxing).

@@watamutha typically it's a bad style for "health benefits" due to the very little cardio they do I feel

@@jean4j_ Yes but you can learn to condition yourself. One overlooked aspect of kung fu I think is that there’s a spiritual feeling to it. I don’t mean like religious, I mean there’s a certain flow to when you start practicing the form that’s very fulfilling. I think that’s why a lot of people like it. I haven’t gotten that feeling from some more combat oriented martial arts.

But those people DID NOT really know wing chun, at least, the EFFECTIVE AND EFFICIENT version of it! For wing chun to work COMPLETELY, you must know the entire traditional system, which is complete, and also understand the inner workings so you can explain it to your beginner students in a way they can understand. That is very important! It is better to understand why it works then to just go through the motions and don't understand what makes the system works so well. This also includes the proper footwork (the circle inside the triangle), along with the angled step and body rotation towards the attack, to see it coming and pull you away from the attack. You must also know and understand all ten concepts, and use them all at once for the system to work optimally and efficiently! Unfortunately, modified wing chun only uses six of ten concepts, does not protect both sides from attack because they use the centerline ONLY and not the center AND central lines, which protect BOTH SIDES from attack! It also uses an inferior 70/30 stance, which sends your energy BACWARD, not FORWARD as it should. It also introduces flaws (because only one side is really protected), and stiffness into the system. Only Wong Shun Leung's system works on the streets because he broke the system down to its component parts, analyzed it, found the flaws, and added something that helped to overcome MOST of the flaws of the system. He found that maintaining contact until you are able to enter in and attack! There is a saying in wing chun by Gigung Wong Shun Leung, and it goes like this: Loi Lau Hoi Sung, Lat Sau Jik. This translates to the following edict: Loi Lau- This means to "engage the enemy, stay with them and form a bridge with the attack, intercepting the path it takes." Hoi Sung- This means to "take advantage of their errors, following their mass of center when they withdraw, attacking the opponent without worries." Lat Sau Jik- This means when the hands are released, ATTACK DIRECTLY WITHOUT HESITATION! (Very important!). All this information is in the book by Master Allen Gibson called Beginning Wing Chun. This simple movement allowed him to overcome the lack of footwork found in the modified system. But you must have an extraordinary sense of touch, and have complete knowledge of the system FIRST, before you can use it as effectively as Master Wong Shun Leung. This edit would also work well with any traditional system.

@@mightymeatmonsta but the Wing Chun does work at other pantley practitioner not the martial art

Hmm... andison silva, tony Fergusson?

@@derekgim1019 their basic wingchun but when they fight in octagon , it's clear that they use mma technique not wing Chun. Maybe they use 1 or 2 wingchun techniques but most of the technique they use is mma.

It's effective, just in a particular range. The problem is fighting moves between different ranges.