How about a video explaining how air travels over the front wing to the top wing and how that affects the car and how varying front wing angle makes it react differently?
Question could you run a half inch wicker bill on the left and gradually make it to 1 inch to the right or do you have to have it 1 inch all the way across the wing
Good information. Very informative. Has anyone tried to make an adjustable wickerbill that can be changed during the race? Kind of like what F1 is doing with DRS?
In 2002 or 2003, I went to a race at Sharon Speedway. One sprint car in the pits -- I don't recall driver or number -- had a wicker bill that didn't go all the way across the wing. It stopped about 6 inches or so from the left side board. I must have been staring at, because the driver came over and said, "I did that to keep the air from stacking up between the side board on the left side and wicker bill." I've never seen it on another car -- have you? I suppose his way to reduce the left rear load that you were discussing? Is there a rule that says the wicker has to go all the way across the wing?
make the cars less aero dependent and the racing will be better. then you wont need so much motor, which most the time you cant use it with the current wings. yous spend all that money on a 900hp motor then "detune" it to make it driveable .
I like the idea of a standardized wing. Saves everybody money and puts the result of the car more-so in the hands of the drivers and the crew chiefs setting the car up. I can't tell you how many times sitting and watching races at the Grove knowing that the lead car in the heat race or the beginning of the feature really wasn't the best car on the track. Once the leader caught lapped traffic usually somebody was coming from 4-6th up through the pack. Now whether they win or not is a different story, but they needed everybody to be in dirty air to showcase just how good their car really was and they got stuck further back because of a previous issue etc. I'd love to see somebody actually wind tunnel test a flat wing at various angles and then test a dished wing at various angles with and without wicker bills. You mentioned drag on the car which is important and IMO overlooked. The higher the drag on a car requires more HP to obtain X speed as Billy mentioned. While it's not this simple the math would work something like this (Speed+Drag=HP). HP costs money. Is there a way to get the same downforce, eliminate some of the drag, and also knock down some of the dirty air? I know you guys are taking HP out of car (Sometimes ALOT) quite a bit for heats and particularly the features. The track is only gonna hold what it's gonna hold traction wise. The HP needed to get to a speed is higher with higher drag. IMO this would help the guys that don't have the King Kong motors that can't be turned up to 950+ hp for an outlaw show. As you know in time trial races if you qualify bad your night is probably not going to go well. Food for thought.
When you reference the 80's and 90's as being a long time ago it hurts! LOL! We were definitely using them. All of our wings then were dished. My first 410 {the Hardees 880} came with a JET wing. We eventually built our own tops and fronts in house. All of the top wings we built and sold were dished. To my recollection we didn't actually have a rule for wickerbill height? I know that I used up to around 4" for sure on the small tracks like Clinton County and Knox. I see many asking about tapered height? We actually did that. My wings were made with an integrated wickerbill of 1". I would use a varied size up to about 3 or 4" but only 4ft. across the plane of the wing leaving the final 12" at 1". The biggest change I found to really make the wing work was experimenting with wing height above the cage. I raised the wing about 4" higher than traditional off of the wing tree. Small tracks it worked great! Big tracks was damned near frightening! Leverage at high speed was insane. The car would walk all over the place on the straights and do weird things in the turns all of the sudden. The coolest thing I saw was Bobby Allen using aluminum angles staggered in a V shape on the top wing plane. The key to a good wing on a sprint car is exactly the opposite from an airplane. Slow the air across the top and increase the velocity underneath. This is what creates your vacuum to the dirt! I'm currently working on a can Koozy for our IC Light beer cans that increase downforce so we can better utilize their raw power.
Great informative video! Can’t wait to see what the 1 inch does to racing this season. I was listening but my eyes kept focusing on that calendar on the left side of the screen when the camera moved….lol
why not eliminate the wicker bill and the hyd slider as that would make the original setup work or not work. that would mean the setup would be more important
What does the 30 inch side wings do if a 1 or 2 in wicker bill pushes down where and how does the side bite come in or is that a break to make the curve
Have you or Danny ever run wingless ??? There is a great topic for a show !!! Winged vs. Wingless !! Are you qualified enough to talk about wingless ??? Is one harder then the other !!!! I love it getting your brother involved !! You and Danny seem to be close siblings are you ??? Your a good guy and your wife is a great gal !!! She's better looking though !!!
